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Johnny Football a Giant?

BP in NJ : 5/8/2014 12:41 pm
NJ.com reporting its possible we take him
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And it keeps him  
B in ALB : 5/8/2014 12:43 pm : link
Out of dallas. Jerrahs head would explode.
LOL - ZERO CHANCE THAT WOULD EVER HAPPEN  
ZogZerg : 5/8/2014 12:43 pm : link
What a waste of space to write that article.

People there are obviously clueless.
It's as possible  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/8/2014 12:43 pm : link
as me motorboating Kate Upton's big gorgeous breasts before the draft tonight.
I  
DanMetroMan : 5/8/2014 12:43 pm : link
know I'll be in the minority but I'd be very happy. I think he's going to be an excellent player/would make for a potential bounty returning chip from the right team.
I thought my friend was ribbing me but  
BIG FRED : 5/8/2014 12:44 pm : link
@JordanRaanan: If Johnny Manziel falls to them, #Giants would consider taking him at No. 12, source says
Ten Ton Hammer..  
Danthebigbluefan : 5/8/2014 12:44 pm : link
So you're telling me there's a chance...
BBI would be a circus  
Chef : 5/8/2014 12:44 pm : link
if this happened
Zero chance  
4thand17 : 5/8/2014 12:45 pm : link
A smokescreen if there ever was one. Tonight can't come soon enough.
doesnt surprise me  
area junc : 5/8/2014 12:45 pm : link
reese is into the new breed of football and wanted/wants sumlin

i'm a big bridgewater fan so if we went QB thats the guy i want but manziel is a 'reese' guy imo
draft  
spike : 5/8/2014 12:45 pm : link
and trade
Sounds like  
Randy in CT : 5/8/2014 12:46 pm : link
the Giants are trying to get teams to move up to take as many QBs as possible before them.
This  
DanMetroMan : 5/8/2014 12:46 pm : link
is probably with the hope one of those teams salivating at him supposedly falling to them reacts and deals with the Giants.
It's very possible that  
kmed : 5/8/2014 12:46 pm : link
"souces" within the Giants organization wants this news to be released to up the value of the 12th pick if Manziel is there.
Raanan loses credibility with tweets like that  
ZogZerg : 5/8/2014 12:46 pm : link
Seriously.
If the Giants drafted him  
moespree : 5/8/2014 12:47 pm : link
The hamster and all his backup friends will die and BBI will be down for a month.
IMO, best case scenario is NFL Tim Lincecum  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/8/2014 12:47 pm : link
he's not a guy you can count on to be a rock for a decade like Eli. I'd love to watch him play for a couple of years but I just cannot see him lasting in this league.
They should absolutely pretend to want Manziel  
GiantJake : 5/8/2014 12:47 pm : link
Maybe somebody gets scared and offers a trade.
Please  
irish27266 : 5/8/2014 12:48 pm : link
put the draft back in April. Journalists are just making stuff up now.
Sounds legit, GET HYPE  
Kyle : 5/8/2014 12:48 pm : link
Randy makes a good point as well....  
kmed : 5/8/2014 12:49 pm : link
There are two possible reasons the Giants would want this out there:

1. Get teams to draft QB's before our pick so the other position players are available at 12.

2. Boost the value of our pick should Manziel fall to 12.
DO IT, JERRY!!!!!  
Exit 172 : 5/8/2014 12:49 pm : link
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RE: Randy makes a good point as well....  
Chef : 5/8/2014 12:50 pm : link
In comment 11661030 kmed said:
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There are two possible reasons the Giants would want this out there:

1. Get teams to draft QB's before our pick so the other position players are available at 12.

2. Boost the value of our pick should Manziel fall to 12.


This
B in ALB  
old man : 5/8/2014 12:51 pm : link
Just the thought of JohnnyF a Giant just made MY head explode: KABOOM!
This new beat writer for NJ.com is brutal...  
Matt G : 5/8/2014 12:51 pm : link
And I love Johnny Football... But there is absolutely zero chance we take him...
Most  
DanMetroMan : 5/8/2014 12:51 pm : link
of the rumors have teams expected to go QB waiting till later picks (Specifically the Browns with Bridgewater and Carr), maybe a team hoping to wait on Manziel jumps up, doubtful but worth a try.
That would be entertaining as hell.  
BeerFridge : 5/8/2014 12:51 pm : link
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Please move the draft back 2 weeks next year!  
jeff57 : 5/8/2014 12:52 pm : link
Please!
Heh  
Sammo284 : 5/8/2014 12:52 pm : link
This is definitely an attempt to get the Cowboys or heck maybe even the Jets to trade up or another team in the late teens/early 20s.

This would help slide another player to them.

Giants might have Manziel highly rated and he might be talked about but I cannot see the Giants seriously taking him.

RE: Sounds like  
spike : 5/8/2014 12:53 pm : link
In comment 11661014 Randy in CT said:
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the Giants are trying to get teams to move up to take as many QBs as possible before them.


+1 or find a trade down partner
Praying that Manziel goes to the AFC  
Vin R : 5/8/2014 12:54 pm : link
I want to root for him
RE: LOL - ZERO CHANCE THAT WOULD EVER HAPPEN  
chris r : 5/8/2014 12:54 pm : link
In comment 11660994 ZogZerg said:
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What a waste of space to write that article.

People there are obviously clueless.


You know there's zero chance how exactly?
There is about as much chance of Manziel being a Giant as . . . .  
TC : 5/8/2014 12:54 pm : link
there is of ME being a Giant.

Manziel is ideal for a team that needs to put more butts in seats, and wishes to add to it's press coverage. And one that has a HC that wants to buy into Manziel's style of play.

Does that sound like the Giants? In NY he would become the center of media sh!t storm the likes of which the world has never seen! It would be a catastrophe. And there's NO WAY Coughlin would allow it.

I agree, could be a desire to stir up trade partners. Certainly, if he's still there at 12, such a rumor could be worth a lot.
We're certainly trying to develop an interest in teams trading up  
yatqb : 5/8/2014 12:54 pm : link
for our pick. This is one way to do it.
RE: This new beat writer for NJ.com is brutal...  
kmed : 5/8/2014 12:55 pm : link
In comment 11661042 Matt G said:
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And I love Johnny Football... But there is absolutely zero chance we take him...


So you think the dude is just making it up out of thin air? Cmon. He's just doing his job. Isn't it more likely that the Giants want this to be made public?
"could benefit from working alongside Manning for several seasons.."  
Riggies : 5/8/2014 12:55 pm : link
I feel like you have to have the IQ of a pea to think this would ever happen.

They draft Manziel or any QB at #12 (they're not going to, but say they do), Eli's gone after 2014.
RE: Raanan loses credibility with tweets like that  
The Natural : 5/8/2014 12:55 pm : link
In comment 11661018 ZogZerg said:
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Seriously.


Very much disagree. Every play is on the table now. Trade up, trade down, pick and trade whatever. It's all smoke and misdirection at this point.

C'mon 8 o'clock.....
Sounds like pure specultion  
Beer Man : 5/8/2014 12:55 pm : link
He quotes his source as "a person with knowledge of the team's draft philosophy". That could be anyone who has studied the Giants since JR became GM, and doesn't even have to be an insider.

I don't see it happening. Based on the FA signings, it looks like the team is restocking for another run with Eli. They need someone who can start immediately, not someone who won't see the field for another 4 years.
RE: B in ALB  
B in ALB : 5/8/2014 12:55 pm : link
In comment 11661041 old man said:
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Just the thought of JohnnyF a Giant just made MY head explode: KABOOM!


Right and that's exactly the point. But I think it's a moot point as he'll be gone before 12 and that's been decided already. This nj reporter doesn't change that.

And I don't think Jerrah believes Romo is his guy after this year. He'll be what 36?
From an utterly objective standpoint,  
Go Terps : 5/8/2014 12:55 pm : link
moving on to a cheap QB option is a reasonable move. I'd even advocate for it if not for my unconditional love for Eli and my belief that he will bring us another title or two.

If we had Rivers or Roethlisberger, for example, I'd be pounding the table now for us to take Manziel and move on...not unlike we did from Collins to Eli.

The position is just too expensive. It's out of whack.

But I love Eli.
Cowboys will be trading their whole draft  
spike : 5/8/2014 12:55 pm : link
to get Manziel.
RE: Agreed  
Danbury Joe : 5/8/2014 12:56 pm : link
In comment 11661030 kmed said:
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There are two possible reasons the Giants would want this out there:

1. Get teams to draft QB's before our pick so the other position players are available at 12.

2. Boost the value of our pick should Manziel fall to 12.


By checking the round 1 board that team most likely would be the Browns with their 26th pick, would should be able to grab a slew of picks if they moved up that far for Johnny football.
Manzel  
SBlue46 : 5/8/2014 12:56 pm : link
And trade to Dallas
For muliple picks...
Screw Jerry football bigtime
RE: Randy makes a good point as well....  
Amtoft : 5/8/2014 12:57 pm : link
In comment 11661030 kmed said:
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There are two possible reasons the Giants would want this out there:

1. Get teams to draft QB's before our pick so the other position players are available at 12.

2. Boost the value of our pick should Manziel fall to 12.


I agree... Makes it more likely a team will jump the Giants and takes a QB, but I don't think he helps boost the value of our pick at 12. The reason for that is Stl is already rumored to want him at 13 thus if someone wants Manziel they would have to go to 12 to get him. Same value no matter what.

To me if no QBs go and all the top players we want are gone... Take Manziel... Look at QB when Aaron Rodgers fell. Don't think they are regretting it.
I don't understand the reasoning behind thinking that  
Exit 172 : 5/8/2014 12:58 pm : link
the Giants are saying (through a source) that they might take JM at 12 so that a team that really wants JM would trade with the Giants.

If a team says they want JM, why would they trade out of the opportunity to take him? What the Giants would want is for a team that wants JM to trade up to 11 to take him, not the Giants' 12th pick.

I believe  
Marty866b : 5/8/2014 12:58 pm : link
There's a MUCH better chance that TTH gets to motorboat Kate Upton's boobs. Not even close IMO.
Jerry  
DanMetroMan : 5/8/2014 12:59 pm : link
Jones apparently told Werder they would consider Manziel at 16 too, thoug he's probably serious lol
Even if the Giants were going to go with a QB  
kmed : 5/8/2014 12:59 pm : link
for the future, I'd highly doubt it would be Manziel.
Manziel is probably the smart pick in the long run  
Jimmy Googs : 5/8/2014 12:59 pm : link
Eli is done.

And really what are the chances a QB wins three Super Bowls..astronomical.

.  
arcarsenal : 5/8/2014 1:00 pm : link
I wouldn't be mad.. BUT.. the reasons this is being floated are the aforementioned. No chance we are taking him.
Aaron Rogers was drafted when Favre was 35, Eli is 34  
chris r : 5/8/2014 1:00 pm : link
If the giants thin Menziel is a franchise guy, there's no reason not to take him. You don't have a chance at those guys often.
I was watching the NFL network this AM  
kmed : 5/8/2014 1:01 pm : link
and Jerry Jones was specifically asked if they'd consider taking JM. Without saying no, he pretty much hinted that they are not interested in drafting a QB with their first pick.
I hear the Giants will draft Johnny Football....  
Reb8thVA : 5/8/2014 1:02 pm : link
and turn him into a slot receiver. They like his playmaking ability.
You can't speak...  
Chris in Philly : 5/8/2014 1:02 pm : link
in absolutes. Anything is possible.
.  
Headhunter : 5/8/2014 1:02 pm : link
I have more of a chance  
giantsfan227B : 5/8/2014 1:02 pm : link
of becoming a Giant than this guy. Another story to stir the shite.
I love Eli as much as Go Terps does.  
Exit 172 : 5/8/2014 1:02 pm : link
And I'm not at all ready to move on from him. But if McAdoo really does plan to mimic the Packers' offense, he would have zero of Rodgers' mobility to work with using Eli. But Manziel...???
Doesn't hurt to put that bit of.....  
MOOPS : 5/8/2014 1:03 pm : link
info out there to stir the pot.
That said, on some levels it might not be a bad pick. The front office has to at least consider the QB position going forward, Eli's future, economics, Nassib's potential.
Whether true or not, it sure would sound believable in some circles and make a few front offices scurry around.
Eli is 33 this season, not 34.  
Riggies : 5/8/2014 1:03 pm : link
And Favre was 36 for that season, not 35.
Nassib  
spike : 5/8/2014 1:03 pm : link
is ready










to hold the clipboard
Manziel says no to NYG  
Bill in UT : 5/8/2014 1:04 pm : link
The NY market is too small for him
Much as I'm a fan of Johnny Football, NY doesn't seem like a good fit  
Greg from LI : 5/8/2014 1:04 pm : link
Manziel playing for Coughlin? Can't see that one going well.
RE: Eli is 33 this season, not 34.  
kmed : 5/8/2014 1:05 pm : link
In comment 11661105 Riggies said:
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And Favre was 36 for that season, not 35.


Love when guys need to exaggerate to make a point.
.  
arcarsenal : 5/8/2014 1:05 pm : link
Well, Coughlin is only going to be here another couple years.. he can't coach forever. If we took JM, he'd be here a lot longer than TC I would think (or hope)
There's always someone every year  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/8/2014 1:06 pm : link
that actually thinks the Giants are suddenly gonna get super-cute and draft someone just to hold them for ransom. When have they ever done business that way?

This year they have a natural smokescreen built in. They don't have to play all these games. They have so many needs, nobody knows what direction they're leaning.
Here  
AcidTest : 5/8/2014 1:07 pm : link
is the operative quote from the article:

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Of course, the Giants could be feigning interest to coax a trade from a team that wants to move up to No. 12 for Manziel.


I think Manziel is going to do well in the NFL, but he does have a tendency to throw the ball up for grabs. We've been infuriated by Eli doing that for years, but at least he has two SB MVP awards. People would explode if Manziel did that as well.

But can you imagine how this place would MELT DOWN if we did take Manziel?
I really don't see any scenario in which we draft a QB this season.  
kmed : 5/8/2014 1:07 pm : link
I can however see a scenario in which we do next draft. The giants want to see how Eli bounces back this season before they start planning for the future, IMO.
I like Manziel  
jeff57 : 5/8/2014 1:07 pm : link
But it would only work if they traded Manning.
Favre was 35 when Rodgers was drafted.  
Exit 172 : 5/8/2014 1:08 pm : link
He turned 36 about 6 games into that season.

Eli is 33 and will stay 33 all (regular) season long.
RE: Eli is 33 this season, not 34.  
chris r : 5/8/2014 1:09 pm : link
In comment 11661105 Riggies said:
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And Favre was 36 for that season, not 35.


My bad. You're right, Eli is about 2.5 years younger than Favre was when Rogers was drafted.

Still if you really think Johnny football is going to be great and that you can get some value for Eli, it would be tempting.
I would love to hate Manziel.  
bceagle05 : 5/8/2014 1:10 pm : link
Ending up in Jerry World would make it so easy.
Giants should absolutely get Manziel in case something  
Jimmy Googs : 5/8/2014 1:10 pm : link
happens to Eli. As of now, we ONLY have Painter, Nassib, Freeman and Smith on the depth chart.

Come on, clearly it was leaked by Giants to push those wanting a QB to do it ahead of us or call us for the #12 spot.

no way. I think Randy is right. They're blowing smoke.  
Victor in CT : 5/8/2014 1:10 pm : link
he's reckless and too small to take the punishment his style will bring him. Look at Griffin.
They wouldn't have to trade Eli, as he has little to no trade  
Riggies : 5/8/2014 1:11 pm : link
value after this draft would occur, but they'd absolutely have to be willing to bench him at some point and, no matter what happens this season, cut him after the year is done.
Giants  
NJGiantFan84 : 5/8/2014 1:12 pm : link
don't have the luxury of selecting a future QB. Too many holes.

RE: They wouldn't have to trade Eli, as he has little to no trade  
jeff57 : 5/8/2014 1:13 pm : link
In comment 11661149 Riggies said:
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value after this draft would occur, but they'd absolutely have to be willing to bench him at some point and, no matter what happens this season, cut him after the year is done.


If they don't trade him, the media circus will kill the team. The first time he throws an INT people will be screaming to put Manziel in. The media will follow suit.
Nothing  
Joey in VA : 5/8/2014 1:14 pm : link
Is out of the realm of possibility. Anyone saying otherwise should not even bother watching the draft and instead focus on a nice crossword puzzle, perhaps some Sudoku, something where they can't say anything stupid out loud.
Maybe we take him and then immediately trade him to San Diego  
nicky43 : 5/8/2014 1:17 pm : link
Oh wait. We did that already.
.  
arcarsenal : 5/8/2014 1:17 pm : link
Nothing is out of the realm of possibility but there is realistic and unrealistic. This falls under the category of the latter. I'd actually kind of like it because I think he's for real. But I would be completely stunned. I don't see it happening.

So, ok.. it's not "no chance".. but it's very close to it.
RE: RE: They wouldn't have to trade Eli, as he has little to no trade  
Riggies : 5/8/2014 1:19 pm : link
In comment 11661160 jeff57 said:
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In comment 11661149 Riggies said:


Quote:


value after this draft would occur, but they'd absolutely have to be willing to bench him at some point and, no matter what happens this season, cut him after the year is done.



If they don't trade him, the media circus will kill the team. The first time he throws an INT people will be screaming to put Manziel in. The media will follow suit.


To be honest, they aren't likely going to be very good this season and throwing the #12 overall pick in a talent heavy draft at a QB, when they have so many other holes they need to fill, wouldn't help matters in the slightest. A media circus wouldn't likely hurt some great contending run.

If they commit to any first round QB, they have to commit to him and that means Eli likely gettting benched in-season AND absolutely must be cut in the offseason (barring some incredibly unlikely trade situation popping up).
RE: I don't understand the reasoning behind thinking that  
Randy in CT : 5/8/2014 1:19 pm : link
In comment 11661076 Exit 172 said:
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the Giants are saying (through a source) that they might take JM at 12 so that a team that really wants JM would trade with the Giants.

If a team says they want JM, why would they trade out of the opportunity to take him? What the Giants would want is for a team that wants JM to trade up to 11 to take him, not the Giants' 12th pick.
Correct. My feeling is that when teams talk about a player, the only reason to do so is to confuse other teams. Or to have fun at their expense. Not to show other teams their hand.
Why Would Jints Say Anything Else?  
clatterbuck : 5/8/2014 1:20 pm : link
Of course, they would "consider" Manziel. You expect them to say, "oh hell no...that kid isn't on our board, so anyone who really wants him, don't worry about a deal with us." It's gamesmanship.
Exit the reason to talk up a player you don't want  
chris r : 5/8/2014 1:21 pm : link
Is to encourage a team to trade up in front of you which increase the chances that the guy you do want will be there.
Bottom Line is  
BP in NJ : 5/8/2014 1:23 pm : link
Eli's no playing forever, and they didn't resign him to extension, which IIRC, would have HELPED the cap situation.

We have to get a successor soon, and it ain't Ryan Nassib.

JM is a polarizing figure--you either love em or hate em. Can't ignore his abilities, and he could possibly hide a shaky OL.

Worth consideration whether they plan to trade the pick or not. IMO.
RE: RE: I don't understand the reasoning behind thinking that  
AcidTest : 5/8/2014 1:23 pm : link
In comment 11661192 Randy in CT said:
Quote:
In comment 11661076 Exit 172 said:


Quote:


the Giants are saying (through a source) that they might take JM at 12 so that a team that really wants JM would trade with the Giants.

If a team says they want JM, why would they trade out of the opportunity to take him? What the Giants would want is for a team that wants JM to trade up to 11 to take him, not the Giants' 12th pick.


Correct. My feeling is that when teams talk about a player, the only reason to do so is to confuse other teams. Or to have fun at their expense. Not to show other teams their hand.


The Rams have the thirteenth pick. If you want him, you trade with the Giants to get ahead of them if you think they might take him.
RE: Cowboys will be trading their whole draft  
ANGPASS : 5/8/2014 1:26 pm : link
In comment 11661067 spike said:
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to get Manziel.


Probably the giants game plan? has to be a smoke screen.
What a way to make any article written, even as absurd as this one  
micky : 5/8/2014 1:27 pm : link
to get readers interest and try to make a subject somewhat legit, by throwing in phrases such as: "by an anonymous person within organization" or like this one, "a person with knowledge of teams,,etc etc etc"

RE: Manziel says no to NYG  
ANGPASS : 5/8/2014 1:29 pm : link
In comment 11661110 Bill in UT said:
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The NY market is too small for him


LMAOOO
Eli is 33  
TommytheElephant : 5/8/2014 1:29 pm : link
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Raanan  
Sammo284 : 5/8/2014 1:30 pm : link
is just playing the part. Being a sportswriter is a two-way street. To cultivate sources for your benefit, you sometimes have to serve as a medium to get stories out there that are really smokescreens that benefit said sources.

Translation  
Brandon Walsh : 5/8/2014 1:34 pm : link
If Manziel is still on the board at 12, that means most if not all our targets are gone. Lets drum up interest for someone to trade up ahead of the Rams at 13 and the Cowboys at 16 so we can trade down with no one left in our top 2 rows.
Raanan also reads BBI...  
Jimmy Googs : 5/8/2014 1:35 pm : link
he jumped on a thread last week and made fun of a poster that was guessing his sources.
you could  
blue42 : 5/8/2014 1:42 pm : link
move back a few spots in a trade with the Rams and allow them to take Manziel and pick up an extra pick.
RE: Raanan  
Matt in SGS : 5/8/2014 1:44 pm : link
In comment 11661247 Sammo284 said:
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is just playing the part. Being a sportswriter is a two-way street. To cultivate sources for your benefit, you sometimes have to serve as a medium to get stories out there that are really smokescreens that benefit said sources.


This.
BP  
fkap : 5/8/2014 1:46 pm : link
extending Eli would have HURT the cap situation. Short term gain vs long term pain. As it turns out, we didn't need extra cap room this year.
RE: Exit the reason to talk up a player you don't want  
Exit 172 : 5/8/2014 1:46 pm : link
In comment 11661200 chris r said:
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Is to encourage a team to trade up in front of you which increase the chances that the guy you do want will be there.


That's exactly what I said. Some people above were implying that the Giants were leaking this to get teams to trade with them.
WE have  
PaulN : 5/8/2014 1:50 pm : link
Eli and Freeman, and there is a report we would take Manziel. If he fell to us, you trade the pick if someone wants him and you ask for next years first rounder, he is a QB, and if a team wants him at our spot, they will pay the price rather then lose him, so I pray he falls to us, he could make the Giants pick at 12 twice as valuable.
RE: If the Giants drafted him  
Josh in the City : 5/8/2014 1:50 pm : link
In comment 11661020 moespree said:
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The hamster and all his backup friends will die and BBI will be down for a month.


I LOL'd
Someone is trolling  
phil fromphilly : 5/8/2014 1:52 pm : link
Raanan. That is the only thing I can imagine.
RE: Someone is trolling  
arcarsenal : 5/8/2014 1:56 pm : link
In comment 11661320 phil fromphilly said:
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Raanan. That is the only thing I can imagine.


Just because he's relaying certain info doesn't mean he's being "trolled"..
Remember  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/8/2014 2:14 pm : link
what I said last night.
What did you say?  
Mike in Long Beach : 5/8/2014 2:16 pm : link
.
He mentioned that the Giants were floating/were going to float  
Riggies : 5/8/2014 2:28 pm : link
interest in a player that they really had no interest in.
most  
M in CT : 5/8/2014 2:31 pm : link
of the other GMs around the league are not stupid. even if the Giants want this rumor to grow legs to drum up trade interest, it won't really have an impact.

much ado about nothing.
STL picks at 13  
AcesUp : 5/8/2014 2:32 pm : link
They're rumored to like Manziel. Posturing to increase demand for a trade down if anything.
M in CT  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/8/2014 2:39 pm : link
Jerry Jones is pretty stupid.
I hope I don't get killed for this...  
Mike in Long Beach : 5/8/2014 2:42 pm : link
First off, disclaimer: I don't think there's a chance we draft Manziel.

Having said that (in my best Jerry Seinfeld voice), if we didn't have as many needs as we do and he were sitting there at 12, with Eli beginning to enter the Third Act of his career... it would make a lot of sense.
I love Johnny Football, but there are good rumors and absolutely  
Shockeyisthebest80 : 5/8/2014 2:46 pm : link
fucking stupid rumors. This is the latter.
RE: M in CT  
M in CT : 5/8/2014 2:46 pm : link
In comment 11661478 Eric from BBI said:
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Jerry Jones is pretty stupid.


agreed. that's why i said "most."

that said, i don't think Jerry is THAT stupid. he's close though!
The Giants drafting Manziel...  
SanFranGiantsFan : 5/8/2014 3:05 pm : link
How long would the BBI server be done for? A year? Two years?
No team is believing the Giants are taking Johnny football  
ZogZerg : 5/8/2014 3:08 pm : link
You guys need to get real. The GMs are stupid, but not that stupid. Yeah, anything is possible - so folks should tweet about the Giants moving up to 1 to snatch Clowney, tweet about moving to #2 to snatch Robinson, tweet about moving to #3 to get Mack, tweet about trading back into the first round to draft Johnny football, etc.

You guys live in La La land if you think there is ANY chance giants go Johnny Football. Either that or you don't pay any attention to what Jerry Reese does.
It would be fun to see Jerrah's reaction  
mfsd : 5/8/2014 3:09 pm : link
at the idea a homegrown Texas kid could become a hero for the Giants
RE: STL picks at 13  
phil fromphilly : 5/8/2014 3:09 pm : link
In comment 11661450 AcesUp said:
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They're rumored to like Manziel. Posturing to increase demand for a trade down if anything.


Listening to NFL radio this morning they were saying the opposite. I forget who it was, basically said the Rams have no interest in Johnny and it was all a smokescreen.

It's so hard to believe anything when it comes to the draft.
That wouldn't be a remote thrower pick.  
Red Dog : 5/8/2014 3:11 pm : link
It would be a break the television and swear off pro football forever pick.
Dog, unless it was part of a draft and trade,  
Big Blue '56 : 5/8/2014 3:24 pm : link
I would be right behind you..
Except,  
Big Blue '56 : 5/8/2014 3:25 pm : link
I could only stay away from the Giants for a day, possibly 2...:)
RE: Remember  
AnishPatel : 5/8/2014 3:31 pm : link
In comment 11661380 Eric from BBI said:
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what I said last night.


That's the first thing I thought of. I wasn't sure if you would confirm so didn't ask again. Isn't this kind of off the wall unbelievable thing? You think jones is that dumb to believe this? This is really off of left field type thing.

However, this was what I thought about regarding what you said last night after reading this article.
Remember when the Cowboys took Steve Walsh  
MikeinPrescott : 5/8/2014 3:41 pm : link
with the number one in the supplemental despite having just drafted Aikman? Taking Manziel, smoke screen or not is NOT so far fetched, me thinks...
RE: Raanan loses credibility with tweets like that  
JordanRaanan : 5/8/2014 4:02 pm : link
In comment 11661018 ZogZerg said:
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Seriously.


Would you rather me not relay this information to you? It's what was said to me. I qualified it with a paragraph that it easily could be the Giants trying to coax a trade if he's on the board.
Haha, this just got interesting.  
Mike in Long Beach : 5/8/2014 4:10 pm : link
.
ZZ,  
Big Blue '56 : 5/8/2014 4:10 pm : link
if it was HIS opinion, perhaps. But, he was just passing on what he heard. What is done with that info is up to the person/people receiving it
RE: No team is believing the Giants are taking Johnny football  
chris r : 5/8/2014 4:12 pm : link
In comment 11661563 ZogZerg said:
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You guys need to get real. The GMs are stupid, but not that stupid. Yeah, anything is possible - so folks should tweet about the Giants moving up to 1 to snatch Clowney, tweet about moving to #2 to snatch Robinson, tweet about moving to #3 to get Mack, tweet about trading back into the first round to draft Johnny football, etc.

You guys live in La La land if you think there is ANY chance giants go Johnny Football. Either that or you don't pay any attention to what Jerry Reese does.


There's not a bit of substance to this post. The reporter has information he's conveying - you just basically scream loudly its not true because you say so.
Too Many Holes  
Ron From NYC : 5/8/2014 4:24 pm : link
We need to fill some holes. If Eli has another lost season, then it is likely we would draft a QB high next year....and we'll be picking very high if Eli lays another egg of a season.
I think that the idea that the Rams' interest in JM  
Exit 172 : 5/8/2014 4:28 pm : link
is just a smokescreen is just a smokescreen put out by the Rams.
Hmmm  
Semipro Lineman : 5/8/2014 4:36 pm : link
Step 1) Let Eli play out the season, he leaves for a big money contract, and the Giants get almost guarantee 3rd Compensation Pick.

Step 2) Then in 2015, you let Johnny Football fight it out with Freeman and Nassib. Use that preseason to drive up their trade value and dump one of either Freeman or Nassib on a QB needy team for another third round trade pick.

Step 3) ??????

Profit...

Jordan  
ZogZerg : 5/8/2014 4:40 pm : link
Yes I would rather you filter the obvious BS.
Otherwise how do we distinguish from information that is actually reasonable.

Thanks in advance.
Chris R  
ZogZerg : 5/8/2014 5:07 pm : link
I have a bridge to sell you. Real cheap...
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mikeygiants : 5/8/2014 5:14 pm : link
RE: Hmmm  
RicFlair : 5/8/2014 5:15 pm : link
In comment 11661771 Semipro Lineman said:
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Step 1) Let Eli play out the season, he leaves for a big money contract, and the Giants get almost guarantee 3rd Compensation Pick.

Step 2) Then in 2015, you let Johnny Football fight it out with Freeman and Nassib. Use that preseason to drive up their trade value and dump one of either Freeman or Nassib on a QB needy team for another third round trade pick.

Step 3) ??????

Profit...



so this season we carry 4 qb's?



Brilliant!
what Vin R said  
jsboston : 5/8/2014 6:56 pm : link
i hope he lands in AFC so I can root for him on occasion.

if he lands in NFC East I'll have to hate him.
Why exactly is Dallas clamoring to draft him?  
Default : 5/8/2014 6:57 pm : link
They just extended Romo
A  
thomasa510 : 5/8/2014 7:12 pm : link
Wow - the source is someone familiar with giants drafting philosophy.

That narrows it to anyone who has looked up the giants draft history for the past five years.

Real quality reporting.
Per Ralph V.  
ZogZerg : 5/8/2014 7:47 pm : link
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- A big no on the rumor that they're thinking about QB Johnny Manziel.


For the few confused folks on this thread.
It'd be worth it to witness  
Jim in Forest Hills : 5/8/2014 7:49 pm : link
the epic BBI meltdown.
Wha  
Chicken Teriyaki Boy : 5/8/2014 11:26 pm : link
happened?
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