Vacchiano has the Giants taking Beckham

Viable options on thier current roster? who?!

ugh

If this kid is worthy of the 12th pick, why was he barely discussed for that slot by the vast majority here until suddenly last week? For months we rarely, if ever, heard him possibly slotted there

which is weird to say. Beckham at 12 makes no sense to me. Hopefully the rumors are true and the Jets trade in front of us from him.

I think he's clearly the third best WR in the draft and could come right in and make an impact. I'd rather have Martin or Donald if they're available, but I wouldn't throw the remote over this one.

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In comment 11661595 Big Blue '56 said:

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If this kid is worthy of the 12th pick, why was he barely discussed for that slot by the vast majority here until suddenly last week? For months we rarely, if ever, heard him possibly slotted there

That does seem a little strange, but maybe there's a leak, whether on purpose or not.

Anyway, since the WR class is so deep I'd much rather wait until 43 and grab the OL at 12.

He's essentially a slot receiver, right?

In comment 11661595 Big Blue '56 said:

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If this kid is worthy of the 12th pick, why was he barely discussed for that slot by the vast majority here until suddenly last week? For months we rarely, if ever, heard him possibly slotted there

Because BBI isn't the NYG scouting department?

loses any credibility with his projected selection.

SO Many wide receiver in this draft. We need help in the trenches. I have no problem picking a big wideout who can help in the redzone and can handle Eli's "high" over the middle throws that Plax and Nicks came down with. I'm not thrilled picking a 5-11 receiver.

Not that it's a fixture in a past dream or anything ....

In comment 11661603 SB said:

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He's essentially a slot receiver, right?

No, he can play the outside. And would with them.

Has been pretty good in projecting our pick, but wasn't even close last year. He had us taking Mant'i Teo.

In comment 11661595 Big Blue '56 said:

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If this kid is worthy of the 12th pick, why was he barely discussed for that slot by the vast majority here until suddenly last week? For months we rarely, if ever, heard him possibly slotted there

Who, Beckham?
There are a LOT of guys in the draft that haven't been discussed here. If you just went by the front page, you'd think there are only 4 offensive linemen in the entire draft and there's nobody after them that can help the team

Odell Beckham is very clearly the 3-4th best WR in the draft. I think he and Lee are equally well regarded, with Beckham not having the health concerns.

....In One Day?

In comment 11661610 Big Rick in FL said:

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Has been pretty good in projecting our pick, but wasn't even close last year. He had us taking Mant'i Teo.

No, Tank Carradine.

...relying on Snee at guard is foolish. Yeah yeah, they say he's healthy, but we've heard that the two previous offseasons and he's been horrible.

Martin can play any position on the line, can take over when Snee inevitably falls on his face, or play tackle if Beatty isn't ready and/or continues to suck.

I would think they checked him out 7 ways to Sunday. They picked Nicks at the top and that turned out great for too short a period. I would have 0 issues. There could be Receivers that can start in round 4, but if they take him at 12, then they think he will be special.

I didn't think it was Teo, but I just read that on another board. Either way he wasn't even close.

They took Ike Hilliard at 7 and I think Beckham's better. Of course this draft might be better. But still.

about college football, or maybe we just need so much improvement throughout the team, but there are so many players I'd be delighted by if their name is called. I kind of feel like it's a can't-miss.

I understand..What I'm saying, opinion-wise, the college football fanatics on here barely mentioned his name and many here know far more about college football than many in the media, imho, yet he was hardly ever discussed as a #12 possibility...

What the Giants know or do is separate from the opinions on this board, even if it ultimately coincides, the point here is about Corner Forum and media discussion and it was rarely in the mindsets of fans and media until a week ago..

Oh wait.. I'm still at work

I never heard of Justin Pugh until the Giants called his name

Beckham is one of those players. As is Cooks.

the take beckham is if all 4 OL are gone. i do believe they will go heavy after offense. don't be surprised if they get another WR in the 3rd round too.

remind anyone else of Mario Manningham?

In comment 11661629 Big Blue '56 said:

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I understand..What I'm saying, opinion-wise, the college football fanatics on here barely mentioned his name and many here know far more about college football than many in the media, imho, yet he was hardly ever discussed as a #12 possibility... What the Giants know or do is separate from the opinions on this board, even if it ultimately coincides, the point here is about Corner Forum and media discussion and it was rarely in the mindsets of fans and media until a week ago..

He was always on the board as a good player, but the board moves around. At one point not long ago Kelvin Benjamin was a 1st round pick. Now nobody's talking about him. Beckham had an especially good combine that helped his stock. Cooks has skyrocketed as well.

In comment 11661640 Josh in the City said:

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remind anyone else of Mario Manningham?

No. Much better hands and routes.

I'd be good with it.

about what the Giants will or will not do? I just don't understand people getting bent out of shape about a speculative mock draft and compounding it by speaking in certainties about what WILL happen.

In comment 11661645 chris r said:

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In comment 11661640 Josh in the City said: Quote: remind anyone else of Mario Manningham? No. Much better hands and routes.

Completely disagree.

That would make it more likely for another target to fall to 12.

and Beatty was healthy, we could field an Oline, even if he wasn't they have a guy who did it for New Orleans. They dont have a full WR corp.

A lot, but I would rather have Brandin Cooks. I read the other day he had something like 76 impact plays(1st downs or TDs) last season alone. Which is insane. Hopefully our QB Coach his former OC puts in a good word for him.

and the Giants need them. I'm not so sure this wouldn't be a good option at 12, especially if there are no other Blue Chippers available then. He can also return punts and kick-offs.

In comment 11661640 Josh in the City said:

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remind anyone else of Mario Manningham?

No, not at all. Faster, more explosive, better hands.

In comment 11661657 Headhunter said:

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and Beatty was healthy, we could field an Oline, even if he wasn't they have a guy who did it for New Orleans. They dont have a full WR corp.

Barely.

I think the only one of the "big 4" OL's that could fall to us at this pt is Martin but I hope he does and I hope we take him. Sounds like Lewan could jump into the top 10 now along with Robinson and Matthews.

...they'll pick Beckham.

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I’ve never gotten the sense that the Giants love Martin, just that they really like him. That could be an important distinction that high in the draft. Maybe if they were picking a little lower in the first round he’d be their choice. But I don’t believe they think Martin is quite as good as Lewan. I also think there’s a strong sentiment in the draft room that they really need to get a player that can actually have an impact right now. The theme of this draft is to get help for Eli Manning and they don’t want to sit around and wait for a player to develop. That’s why I think that if the Giants, as expected, can’t get Evans or Lewan there choice is going to be Odell Beckham Jr., the 5-11, 198-pound receiver from LSU.

a stud WR would be as much a need pick as a stud Tackle

In comment 11661650 Josh in the City said:

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In comment 11661645 chris r said: Quote: In comment 11661640 Josh in the City said: Quote: remind anyone else of Mario Manningham? No. Much better hands and routes. Completely disagree.

ODB is a much better prospect than Manningham was. Manningham could barely run a fade route.

esp with Eli, who does deliver the ball high.

I will also say, I've never seen this kid really play either.

I'd rather build on either side of the LOS, that's what made us so good from 2006-2010.

...is much more than the talent drop-off between first tier and 2nd tier WRs. The WRs are much closer talent wise, in other words. I feel that the giants would get better value going OT-WR than WR-OT.

I wouldn't be upset with Beckham though. He's a baller.

To get either Mike Evans or Aaron Donald!!

In comment 11661676 Emil said:

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In comment 11661650 Josh in the City said: Quote: In comment 11661645 chris r said: Quote: In comment 11661640 Josh in the City said: Quote: remind anyone else of Mario Manningham? No. Much better hands and routes. Completely disagree. ODB is a much better prospect than Manningham was. Manningham could barely run a fade route.

How many times did Manningham catch the fade for a TD for us? I personally saw him do it in Foxboro right in front of me.

I don't know how he is now after the knee, but Manningham could play.

HH.. I agree I just think the OL is slightly more important. If we field an incompetent line again, it won't matter who is running the routes.

was very dynamic for the Giants, just look at his yards per catch.

He was a terrific third WR..............and when pressed into action as a starter in 2010, did very, very well.

Manningham fell in his draft class, and was a terrific pick by Reese.

there has been 1 basic premise that the Giants would take a Tackle move Beatty to RT and Pugh to guard. But what if the Giants have no intention of doing this? I haven't heard anything from the team that indicates this is a given.

Mario M. is listed at 6-0. I thought he was taller.........