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NY Giants 5th (a) Round Pick: S Nat Berhe, San Diego State

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/10/2014 2:37 pm
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Rob Rang  
DanMetroMan : 5/10/2014 2:46 pm : link
To me, he looks faster on the field than I anticipate hell run on the track. On the field he makes a lot of plays and I think hes a guy that can be successful, Rang said. Theres only so many guys who have real instincts for the position, and that impresses.

I think he has a real chance of being drafted in the sixth or seventh round, mid to late Day 3.

Berhe (5-foot-10, 194 pounds) finished his SDSU career with 41 starts and 299 tackles and was a force at the Aztec safety position.

His two years as the starter at Aztec safety will pay off in the NFL, Rang said, because most teams are now on the lookout for versatile defensive backs who can play free safety or strong safety.

Berhes versatility, his intelligence, and his open field tackling skills will all make him more marketable.

Rang thinks Berhe will impress on the white board and thats where hell start to build some buzz.

Additionally, even though Berhe isnt very big physically, his open field tackling ability will help him out, Rang said. Hes a good football player. There are a lot of safeties in this class that are flashy athletes but dont tackle well.

Because he does, I think its coaches rather than scouts that are going to jump on him. Someone is going to give him a chance because of the consistency hes shown in his career.
Gotta say I'm disappointed, but completely ignorantly.  
yatqb : 5/10/2014 2:46 pm : link
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CBS Sports  
Big Rick in FL : 5/10/2014 2:46 pm : link
Gave it a B+
RE: I think Reese  
jeff57 : 5/10/2014 2:46 pm : link
In comment 11669548 Mendenhall said:
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has a death wish. This draft has been a disaster. TE,LB,OT? It's time for a change.


Be careful. The pom pom squad will come and try to shout you down.
Berhe  
Mike in NY : 5/10/2014 2:46 pm : link
ESPN really likes him

I just question if he is more than a role player/special teamer and if I was taking a role player I would prefer a pass rusher
It's  
AcidTest : 5/10/2014 2:47 pm : link
just hard to know, especially this late in the draft. We all want other players we know better. But there is a reason they have been passed over by the entire league, not just the Giants.

I do wish the Giants had taken Jensen or Lynch, but one may be around at the end of the fifth.

Berhe has excellent production and of course character. He has limitations, including his size, but Kiper just described him as a tackling machine, albeit with limited numbers.
"Tackling Machine"  
Emlen'sGremlins : 5/10/2014 2:47 pm : link
"Will Spill His Guts Out On The Football Field"

- Mel Kiper
There must be something in the air that makes people lose their minds  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/10/2014 2:47 pm : link
on draft and game days.
RE: Ok, the usual fucking stupid.  
chris r : 5/10/2014 2:47 pm : link
In comment 11669558 Big Blue '56 said:
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I'm off this thread..Wtf was I thinking?


Thanks for checking in to share that with us?
I just watched the Fresno St. film  
robbieballs2003 : 5/10/2014 2:47 pm : link
He was constantly manned up and had great play and route recognition. He seems a little vulnerable in man coverage but plays smart. He does support in the run defense but he isn't an imposing force in the run game. However, he is always around the ball which is a great thing.
Clearly not drafted on his measurables  
RobCarpenter : 5/10/2014 2:48 pm : link
But reads the game well and likes to tackle. Should be good in run support.
Highlights  
DanMetroMan : 5/10/2014 2:48 pm : link
..
Link - ( New Window )
here  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/10/2014 2:48 pm : link
are highlights...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0-MK1zS8Ic - ( New Window )
ESPN really does love him  
InTikiITrust : 5/10/2014 2:48 pm : link
"Terrible measurables for that position, but I'll tell you how good of a player he is on the tape."

- makes reads quickly
- good ball skills
- constantly around the ball
- good at supporting the run
- loves hitting
- "tackling machine"
- he will spill his guts on the football field
- plays hard
don't know him  
Hades07 : 5/10/2014 2:48 pm : link
but his write ups read like a guy who will be a strong special teams player.
Omg, this dude didn't look good on combine  
nybeast : 5/10/2014 2:48 pm : link
I'm sorry I can't rely on "in Reese we trust." The Giants are forcing a theme in this draft of getting character and leadership while addressing needs. I get it and perhaps the Will Hill situation caused this change. But still, this guy is not fast, can't catch, and isn't that strong. Idk what the Giants are doing. Is this insurance for Stevie Brown? Or someone to play Deon Grant? Replacement for Will Hill?

I hope I'm wrong, but this draft blows!
RE: RE: I think Reese  
BigBlueBuff : 5/10/2014 2:49 pm : link
In comment 11669576 jeff57 said:
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In comment 11669548 Mendenhall said:


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has a death wish. This draft has been a disaster. TE,LB,OT? It's time for a change.

So



Be careful. The pom pom squad will come and try to shout you down.

Oh spare us your mock outrage.
I've never seen the guy play, but  
Bill in UT : 5/10/2014 2:49 pm : link
I looked at a couple of minutes of his highlight reel and if someone had told me it was Will Hill from a distance, I might have believed it. The guy is a nasty hitter.
from reddit  
Mattman : 5/10/2014 2:49 pm : link
Do you have a pre-game ritual/meal before every game? If so, what is it?

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[]Nat Berhe - NFL draft prospectnatberhe[S] 149 points 2 days ago

I just pray and then go hunt.
Fresno St.  
robbieballs2003 : 5/10/2014 2:49 pm : link
link
Link - ( New Window )
Sounds alright to me  
LPete : 5/10/2014 2:49 pm : link
He could be a nickel guy. At least hes a player and not a raw ass athlete
chrisr  
Big Blue '56 : 5/10/2014 2:49 pm : link
Go fuck yourself you pathetic idiot
2013  
sjnyfan : 5/10/2014 2:49 pm : link
99 tackles, 0 INTs
We need a contributor  
spike : 5/10/2014 2:49 pm : link
Not just a ST player
RE: Horrible Pick. way too slow  
okiegiant : 5/10/2014 2:49 pm : link
In comment 11669520 Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 said:
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bad pick...


Rich, you've been disgusted by this entire draft. Do yourself a favor and take a walk...enjoy the day.

Seems like he might be a special teams contributor initially.
RE: Rob Rang  
bigbluescot : 5/10/2014 2:50 pm : link
In comment 11669573 DanMetroMan said:
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To me, he looks faster on the field than I anticipate hell run on the track. On the field he makes a lot of plays and I think hes a guy that can be successful, Rang said. Theres only so many guys who have real instincts for the position, and that impresses.

I think he has a real chance of being drafted in the sixth or seventh round, mid to late Day 3.

Berhe (5-foot-10, 194 pounds) finished his SDSU career with 41 starts and 299 tackles and was a force at the Aztec safety position.

His two years as the starter at Aztec safety will pay off in the NFL, Rang said, because most teams are now on the lookout for versatile defensive backs who can play free safety or strong safety.

Berhes versatility, his intelligence, and his open field tackling skills will all make him more marketable.

Rang thinks Berhe will impress on the white board and thats where hell start to build some buzz.

Additionally, even though Berhe isnt very big physically, his open field tackling ability will help him out, Rang said. Hes a good football player. There are a lot of safeties in this class that are flashy athletes but dont tackle well.

Because he does, I think its coaches rather than scouts that are going to jump on him. Someone is going to give him a chance because of the consistency hes shown in his career.


My only issue with the pick is that with another pick coming up relatively soon, I'm not sure they needed to take him with the first pick in the round.

But it's the 5th round, you're either taking players based on production with limited measurables or players with measurables and limited production.
This is turning out to be worst Giants draft in history  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 5/10/2014 2:50 pm : link
Holy crap i am so disappointed. its like mid 1970's drafting
Just tweeted buddy  
SBlue46 : 5/10/2014 2:50 pm : link
In SD...said he never heard
Of him

Anybody Reese drafts  
Big Rick in FL : 5/10/2014 2:50 pm : link
Is going to get some of these idiots pissed off. I can't even count how many times I have read this offseason that we don't want guys who are workout warriors. That we need to get good football players. Which we do and then people are bitching about their combine performance.
I like what I see....  
Wonderphil11 : 5/10/2014 2:51 pm : link
from his highlight tape, seems like a heat seeking missile out there.
Lindy's Draft Guide....  
Emlen'sGremlins : 5/10/2014 2:52 pm : link
....Has Him As One Their "3 To Watch" Safeties.

"Dynamic Player With Better Ability Than Size, But His Effort And Versatility Are Enough To Keep Him Around".
May be an ST specialist  
old man : 5/10/2014 2:52 pm : link
Also that comment about improving to something else means he has some desire for the game.
Give him a chance.
Damn this dude is smart  
BarbieCarpenter : 5/10/2014 2:52 pm : link
That AMA link is must read before anyone touches their keyboard to rant about him.
I don't know what people are complaining about  
Bill L : 5/10/2014 2:52 pm : link
We don't have a 7 th round pick this year. So we have to take it when we can get it.

Seriously, they scout these people and they're capable. He likely gives them something different that they can use.
He was tolp at the Combine in broad and vertical jumps at his position  
Canton : 5/10/2014 2:52 pm : link
That scouting report claiming he has blazing speed is erroneous.. Lol. Thanks Dan. 4.71 40. My grandmother has better closing speed. But only on Sundays when we have Manicotti.
RE: This is turning out to be worst Giants draft in history  
BestFeature : 5/10/2014 2:52 pm : link
In comment 11669605 Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 said:
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Holy crap i am so disappointed. its like mid 1970's drafting


And you know this how? They haven't even had 1 practice yet.
RE: RE: RE: I think Reese  
jeff57 : 5/10/2014 2:52 pm : link
In comment 11669595 BigBlueBuff said:
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In comment 11669576 jeff57 said:


Quote:


In comment 11669548 Mendenhall said:


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has a death wish. This draft has been a disaster. TE,LB,OT? It's time for a change.

So



Be careful. The pom pom squad will come and try to shout you down.


Oh spare us your mock outrage.


On cue.
Reese has his job on the line and makes picks  
Headhunter : 5/10/2014 2:52 pm : link
Fat fucking coach potatoes eating cheese doodles with not a penny on the line and no skin in the game go banana's, and I'm supposed to listen to you why again?
He fits the mold of all these picks  
SuperRonJohnson : 5/10/2014 2:53 pm : link
High character, smart, captain. After football he will join his family business. They run a non-profit group home for emotionally disturbed adults. That was mentioned on ESPN.
RE: This is turning out to be worst Giants draft in history  
SanFranGiantsFan : 5/10/2014 2:53 pm : link
In comment 11669605 Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 said:
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Holy crap i am so disappointed. its like mid 1970's drafting


The fact that you hate his draft makes me think we've hit a home run on each pick.
Doc, take a break...don't let certain posters get to you...  
okiegiant : 5/10/2014 2:53 pm : link
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Are we allowed to have any commentary on  
JesseS : 5/10/2014 2:54 pm : link
Picks? If we can't criticize, because we know nothing, doesn't that mean we can't praise either? Being a fan is an interactive experience. When legitimate scouting publications rank someone close to an UDFA, aren't we allowed to be puzzled when they're picked in the third and fifth rounds? Or should we just defer to management? The giants, and every other team, miss all the time. Clearly, it's not a science and up to some scrutiny? Some of the pro- every pick guys are significantly ruder and more obnoxious than the other side and are grown men that talk like children.
..................  
sphinx : 5/10/2014 2:54 pm : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 2m
#NYG SS, 5th round pick RT @NatBerhe: I'm going to give everything I got to the @Giants and everybody who passed on me...I'm coming."

RE: We need a contributor  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/10/2014 2:54 pm : link
In comment 11669602 spike said:
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Not just a ST player


A ST player is a contributor.

Rich, go drag an Eagle round the block  
WeatherMan : 5/10/2014 2:54 pm : link
clearly you need to blow off some steam
Dammit people  
mrvax : 5/10/2014 2:54 pm : link
the Giants have scouts that are better than you and I. Relax. We will see these guys soon enough.
...  
SanFranGiantsFan : 5/10/2014 2:54 pm : link
Dude's already changed his Twitter background to the Giants logo. Love it.
RE: We need a contributor  
CGiants07 : 5/10/2014 2:55 pm : link
In comment 11669602 spike said:
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Not just a ST player


at safety we don't need an early contributor with rolle,brown,demps,hill(susp?) and taylor already on the roster
RE: Are we allowed to have any commentary on  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/10/2014 2:55 pm : link
In comment 11669630 JesseS said:
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Picks? If we can't criticize, because we know nothing, doesn't that mean we can't praise either? Being a fan is an interactive experience. When legitimate scouting publications rank someone close to an UDFA, aren't we allowed to be puzzled when they're picked in the third and fifth rounds? Or should we just defer to management? The giants, and every other team, miss all the time. Clearly, it's not a science and up to some scrutiny? Some of the pro- every pick guys are significantly ruder and more obnoxious than the other side and are grown men that talk like children.


Plenty of publications have him as a 3-5.
RE: Just tweeted buddy  
PetesHereNow : 5/10/2014 2:55 pm : link
In comment 11669606 SBlue46 said:
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In SD...said he never heard
Of him

Then he doesn't watch MWC ball. Guys one of the best players in the conference.
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