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NY Giants 5th (a) Round Pick: S Nat Berhe, San Diego State

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/10/2014 2:37 pm
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Guaranteed to happen on BBI  
Lowell.. : 5/10/2014 2:56 pm : link
After JR, TC, and Ross spin this pick, the typical BBI comment will be: "At first I hated the pick but now I'm starting to like this guy."
I don't see who he bumps from the roster, but  
Bill in UT : 5/10/2014 2:56 pm : link
I could see him on the PS in case of a Hill suspension or injuries to Taylor or Brown
...  
rbsp7 : 5/10/2014 2:56 pm : link
He did an AMA on reddit a few days ago, pretty interesting, smart kid.
Nat Berhe AMA - ( New Window )
JesseS this is your  
Headhunter : 5/10/2014 2:56 pm : link
2nd whine about being able to criticize. We'll extend that fucking logic and realize you can criticize the critic
Jeff57  
BigBlueBuff : 5/10/2014 2:57 pm : link
If you don't have enough self-awareness, despite an entire group of people pointing it out, to recognize just what an insufferable douchebag you are then I don't know what to tell you.
Tomorrow he Giants will Unveil their 2014 Slogan  
Boy Cord : 5/10/2014 2:57 pm : link
The New York Giants: We're Just Smarter than You

If I had my way they would have drafted an OL in the 2nd that can
play Tackle. This team is woefully thin at Tackle. Since they were going RB anyway, I would have preferred Tre Mason in the 3rd, then get your DT. I'm pretty speechless about this pick.



He's  
AcidTest : 5/10/2014 2:57 pm : link
for ST with that type of heat seeking missile personality. His slow speed would get him killed in coverage. ST and backup duty only. Who knows whether we could have done better? Character and production are there. People, myself included, get locked into certain players, even this late, and get pissed when the FO passes over them for "unknowns."
Well extend  
Headhunter : 5/10/2014 2:57 pm : link
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From his AMA on Reddit  
ImaGiant86 : 5/10/2014 2:58 pm : link
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Q: Hi Nat. Have you spoken with any of your former SDSU teammates who have been through the draft process (Miles Burris, Ronnie Hillman and Ryan Lindley)? If so, what advice have they given you? Good luck with the draft, I'll be rooting for you.

A: I've spoken to a ton of guys, the best advice I've received has actually come from Allen Bradford (Giants) he's my brothers best friend and the guy has a bit of Ray Lewis in him so he's definitely motivational.

Q: If you don't mind my asking, what advice did he give you?

A: He just told me that teams know a ball player when they see one and not to worry about the process, that the combine is for the fans and that when the draft comes around teams are doing what the need to win games.


I like this pick, looking beyond the 2014 season this pick makes sense.
Link - ( New Window )
RE: Are we allowed to have any commentary on  
The Natural : 5/10/2014 2:58 pm : link
In comment 11669630 JesseS said:
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Picks? If we can't criticize, because we know nothing, doesn't that mean we can't praise either? Being a fan is an interactive experience. When legitimate scouting publications rank someone close to an UDFA, aren't we allowed to be puzzled when they're picked in the third and fifth rounds? Or should we just defer to management? The giants, and every other team, miss all the time. Clearly, it's not a science and up to some scrutiny? Some of the pro- every pick guys are significantly ruder and more obnoxious than the other side and are grown men that talk like children.


You are a poopie head.....

This is a great pick.....Dumbo.
They are not drafting projects with good measurables  
Mattman : 5/10/2014 2:58 pm : link
They are drafting high football IQ players who eat, sleep and breathe football. These are guys who will outwork a lot of the other prospects who have gotten by with just talent but who are lazy fucks. Guys the Giants have been drafting recently.
RE: RE: Are we allowed to have any commentary on  
JesseS : 5/10/2014 2:58 pm : link
In comment 11669643 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Picks? If we can't criticize, because we know nothing, doesn't that mean we can't praise either? Being a fan is an interactive experience.



Plenty of publications have him as a 3-5.


Right. Like I said, it's not a science, or players would be ranked and assigned to teams based on an algorithm. But it doesn't mean there can't be criticism. And I'm not sure most people would consider the Giants home run hitters on the draft or infallible.
RE: He fits the mold of all these picks  
Fred in Atlanta : 5/10/2014 3:00 pm : link
In comment 11669626 SuperRonJohnson said:
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High character, smart, captain. After football he will join his family business. They run a non-profit group home for emotionally disturbed adults. That was mentioned on ESPN.


He is coming to a place where they can find. A lot of candidates for there home
RE: JesseS this is your  
JesseS : 5/10/2014 3:00 pm : link
In comment 11669651 Headhunter said:
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2nd whine about being able to criticize. We'll extend that fucking logic and realize you can criticize the critic


I'm whining? So how should the board behave?
RE: Tomorrow he Giants will Unveil their 2014 Slogan  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/10/2014 3:01 pm : link
In comment 11669654 Boy Cord said:
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The New York Giants: We're Just Smarter than You

If I had my way they would have drafted an OL in the 2nd that can
play Tackle. This team is woefully thin at Tackle. Since they were going RB anyway, I would have preferred Tre Mason in the 3rd, then get your DT. I'm pretty speechless about this pick.




Woefully thin? There are 5 guys on the roster that can play tackle.
That little guy is a hitting machine  
Maineline : 5/10/2014 3:01 pm : link
I don't know how fast he times but his video shows a very instinctive player who gets to the ball quickly and delivers a wallop. Seems like a real football player rather then a measurables only draft day fantasy.
There is valid criticism back up by valid points  
Headhunter : 5/10/2014 3:01 pm : link
and arguments to support. I'm only criticizing the knee jerk morons that bitch because they can and nothing to back up their criticism other than 3rd grade temper tantrums
RE: RE: RE: RE: I think Reese  
Kulish29 : 5/10/2014 3:02 pm : link
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has a death wish. This draft has been a disaster. TE,LB,OT? It's time for a change.

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Be careful. The pom pom squad will come and try to shout you down.


Oh spare us your mock outrage.



On cue.


And, on cue, we have your idiotic bullshit. You cant even pretend to know the things the Giants FO knows about these players. Yet, you and your idiot brethern continue to act like you know better than them because you read some shit on the internet and watched some highlight clips. Get a fucking clue and shut the fuck up.
I really  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/10/2014 3:03 pm : link
like this kid's game.
Needs  
Jon in NYC : 5/10/2014 3:03 pm : link
to bulk up, but he clearly isn't scared to lay into someone. Certainly worth a late round flier.
RE: Lindy's Draft Guide....  
Spock : 5/10/2014 3:03 pm : link
In comment 11669613 Emlen'sGremlins said:
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....Has Him As One Their "3 To Watch" Safeties.

"Dynamic Player With Better Ability Than Size, But His Effort And Versatility Are Enough To Keep Him Around".


I'm sure Rich doesn't get this guide.
Here's a shocker: some of these guys are gonna hit.  
Crispino : 5/10/2014 3:03 pm : link
Some are not. Just like every other team. To sit here and say you are either thrilled or pissed is is just a matter of whether you choose to be an optimist or a pessimist.
..................  
sphinx : 5/10/2014 3:03 pm : link
Conor Orr ‏@ConorTOrr 31s
Berhe got a call from the #Giants about a week ago to make sure the phone number was right, but that's about it.

Ebenezer Samuel ‏@ebenezersamuel 44s
Nat Berhe says his instincts are his best quality. Chicks will dig this too: "I have great eyes."

RE: I really  
Spock : 5/10/2014 3:04 pm : link
In comment 11669676 Eric from BBI said:
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like this kid's game.


You just alienated half of your constituents here with this comment. Ha
RE: There is valid criticism back up by valid points  
JesseS : 5/10/2014 3:04 pm : link
In comment 11669672 Headhunter said:
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and arguments to support. I'm only criticizing the knee jerk morons that bitch because they can and nothing to back up their criticism other than 3rd grade temper tantrums


I was saying the same thing. :|

Talking about the draft is fun, without the lunacy from both sides. Not sure that makes me a whiner. I'm a social worker and a mediator, trying to understand why people act more nutty than my clients about a sport.
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sphinx : 5/10/2014 3:05 pm : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 4s
Nat Berhe played the hybrid LB/S position at San Diego State. Same position coaches at New Mexico State developed for Brian Urlacher #nyg

Ebenezer Samuel ‏@ebenezersamuel 5s
Some viewed Berhe as a strong safety, nickel and free safety. Giants dug three-safety look a few years ago. Have since reloaded a LB though.

Conor Orr ‏@ConorTOrr 27s
Berhe played the same position as Brian Urlacher in college. A hybrid linebacker-safety. Feels like he can play Nickel, free and strong.

JesseS  
Headhunter : 5/10/2014 3:05 pm : link
just a tip, make your counter argument against the pick and support it and dont worry about the right to criticize
RE: I like what I see....  
muhajir : 5/10/2014 3:05 pm : link
In comment 11669609 Wonderphil11 said:
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from his highlight tape, seems like a heat seeking missile out there.


Agreed. He's skinny but a lot like Will Hill when he hits the ball carrier there's a big collision and they go down immediately.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I think Reese  
jeff57 : 5/10/2014 3:05 pm : link
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has a death wish. This draft has been a disaster. TE,LB,OT? It's time for a change.

So



Be careful. The pom pom squad will come and try to shout you down.


Oh spare us your mock outrage.



On cue.



And, on cue, we have your idiotic bullshit. You cant even pretend to know the things the Giants FO knows about these players. Yet, you and your idiot brethern continue to act like you know better than them because you read some shit on the internet and watched some highlight clips. Get a fucking clue and shut the fuck up.


Must be the shout down leader of the pom pom squad.

No dissent allowed. All hail King Reese.
it's the 5th round  
bluepepper : 5/10/2014 3:06 pm : link
if he becomes a good ST player and decent backup safety then it's a good pick.
RE: Another reach  
Great White Ghost : 5/10/2014 3:06 pm : link
In comment 11669527 donald92 said:
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Reese needs to go, he's clueless.
I don't think so. I think he may not have a high ceiling, but I wouldn't call it "low".He will be a solid rotational player that will probably stick, and that's about all you can ask out of a fifth rounder. Again, the Giants drafted a "football player" which is what all of the guys they got so far are, and leaders.gusy that don't have to be babysat and are self motivated.This guys lives and breathes football from what I've read and has great instincts, a nose for the ball and likes to hit and hits hard.So he's short, they'll stick him in the slot, BFD.He plays specials as well.They may switch him to corner.
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sphinx : 5/10/2014 3:07 pm : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 1m
Nat Berhe: "If you look at my film, I try to be the biggest, baddest dude out there. That's just the way I play." #nyg

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Jon in NYC : 5/10/2014 3:07 pm : link
In comment 11669688 sphinx said:
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Ebenezer Samuel ‏@ebenezersamuel 5s
Some viewed Berhe as a strong safety, nickel and free safety. Giants dug three-safety look a few years ago. Have since reloaded a LB though.



In what world have the giants "reloaded" at LB?
Will Hill didn't have great timed speed either  
Jim in Forest Hills : 5/10/2014 3:08 pm : link
this kid seems a similar violent type hitter/tackler.
RE: Here's a shocker: some of these guys are gonna hit.  
Kulish29 : 5/10/2014 3:08 pm : link
In comment 11669680 Crispino said:
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Some are not. Just like every other team. To sit here and say you are either thrilled or pissed is is just a matter of whether you choose to be an optimist or a pessimist.


It has more to do with people seeing BIG SEXY NAMES on the board still and the Giants not taking those BIG SEXY NAMES because everybody knows BIG SEXY NAMES always make it in the NFL.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/10/2014 3:08 pm : link
Conor Orr ‏@ConorTOrr 44s

Berhe: "I just play...with a lot of anger. I try to take people's heads off. I think that's how the S position should be played." #nyg
It's a slight reach in that there would be a decent chance  
bigbluescot : 5/10/2014 3:08 pm : link
he'd be there with our second 5th round pick.
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sphinx : 5/10/2014 3:09 pm : link
Conor Orr ‏@ConorTOrr 1m
Berhe: "I just play...with a lot of anger. I try to take people's heads off. I think that's how the S position should be played." #nyg

Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 1m
Nat Berhe: "To be a great leader, you've got to be willing to serve." #nyg

Ebenezer Samuel ‏@ebenezersamuel 1m
Nat Berhe was a team captain at San Diego State. And Colton High.

Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 1m
Nat Berhe played the hybrid LB/S position at San Diego State. Same position coaches at New Mexico developed for Brian Urlacher #nyg

Ebenezer Samuel ‏@ebenezersamuel 1m
Berhe says he's added weight since 193-pound combine weigh-in. He's up to 202.

SDSU fan here  
SHO'NUFF : 5/10/2014 3:09 pm : link
Nat is a player! played in Rocky Long's 3-3-5 defense. Always heard his name mentioned on TV...for good things.
I don't know this kid  
Sneakers O'toole : 5/10/2014 3:09 pm : link
but I like that he sees himself as a hitter. I guess we'll see what he can do.
I don't criticize guys I have never seen, but  
Spock : 5/10/2014 3:10 pm : link
The video from the combine shows me he has bad hands. I can see why he had no interceptions this past year. He dropped a lot of those passes.
stable of safteys  
shabu : 5/10/2014 3:11 pm : link
We sure have a stable of safteys. Sheesh
I like it as insurance  
beatrixkiddo : 5/10/2014 3:11 pm : link
incase Hill is suspended or cut.

Kid isn't afraid to lay wood, seems dedicated, and seems to have some potential.
Spock  
Mattman : 5/10/2014 3:12 pm : link
He said after the combine he was having his QB throw him 300 balls a day to improve... and caught everything at the pro day
love this kids  
Fast Adam : 5/10/2014 3:12 pm : link
Attitude. Like what the tape shows. Can't base everything on the combine and timed speed you bunch of whiners.
Do you people realize  
Natek212 : 5/10/2014 3:12 pm : link
We are in the 5th round of the draft? You are not going to get a surefire stud here. You are going to have to take risks at this point. You are going to see reaches here, especially when we only have 2 picks left. Obviously the Giants like the kid for reasons we may not know. There's no point in saying it was a stupid pick, in 3 years you might be able to say that. You just sound ignorant saying a 5th round pick is stupid because the Giants didn't draft the player you wanted them to.
Mattman  
Spock : 5/10/2014 3:13 pm : link
I loved reading what you wrote. That is awesome. It shows me this kid wants to improve and will do what it takes to do just that. Again, how can you not love that?
Special teams player  
scott in albany : 5/10/2014 3:14 pm : link
at best. Hate this pick. Nat prove me wrong.
RE: JesseS  
JesseS : 5/10/2014 3:14 pm : link
In comment 11669689 Headhunter said:
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just a tip, make your counter argument against the pick and support it and dont worry about the right to criticize


I'm not sure what you're trying to communicate but alright.
Stanford Safety Ed Reynolds  
PeterS : 5/10/2014 3:15 pm : link
was still on the board. So was Georgia tight end Arthur Lynch. I hope Nat Berhe works out better than those two because I would have taken either of them.
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