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Things Giants fans want to hear about at the OTA’s this week

YANKEE28 : 5/25/2014 3:25 pm
After a very disappointing season, the OTA’s are finally here, along with new coaches and what seems like 50% a new Giants team. Along with the optimism of a new season come questions that we would like the Giants media that covers the OTA’s to provide fans some answers

OG Eric Herman- last year our high hopes for Herman for helping a dysfunctional offense line were dashed by his clumsy feet and difficulty adjusting to the speed of the game. It’s a new year. Herman spent the offseason in the weight room, but also spent time doing yoga and cryotherapy. He already had the mental approach and physicality of the position.

Question 1 for the Giants media-does Herman appear more nimble and athletic, and ready to contribute?

DE Damontre Moore- last year we saw some impressive special team plays by Moore. Our hopes for him contributing in 2013 were dashed when we saw OT Trent Williams just manhandle him play after play against Washington. Other teams shied away from Moore in the draft supposedly because of his lack of strength with his hand in the dirt.

Question 2 for the Giants media- has Moore gotten stronger? Has Moore’s body changed and is Moore ready to help the Giants as a useful edge rusher in 2014?

WR Kris Adams-the rail thin journeyman receiver had seemed to finally found a long term home during the Giants training camp. Constantly mentioned as having a very impressive practice, our hopes were stalled when Adams broke his ankle and ended up on IR for the 2013 season

Question 3 for the Giants media-Is Adams fully recovered from last year’s injury? Has he used this offseason to put on weight and get stronger? Could he be the answer for our #5 receiver position?

WR Preston Parker- does this largely unnoticed offseason signing have any chance at contributing? The Giants MO for this offseason has been to sign leaders and outstanding citizens. Parker breaks that mold. One of the most heralded athletes in the nation in 2006, he signed with Florida State and was team MVP as a soph wide receiver in 2007. But then the trouble hit. After multiple arrests he was thrown off the team, and went undrafted after finishing his college career at Northern Alabama. He showed flashes and promise with the Tampa Bay Bucs in 2011, catching 40 passes as their 3rd receiver, but was eventually released and spent 2013 out of football.

Question 4 for the Giants media- how impressive (or unimpressive) is Parker? If he has straightened out his life, does the thrilling athleticism and ability catch your eyes and give fans a thought that he could be a surprise contributor in McAdoo’s offense? Or is he just camp fodder with no shot at making the Giants roster?

OL Brandon Mosely- Giants fans had high hopes for Mosely, after a solid final year at Auburn and his selection in the 4th round. Since then it has been injuries, an ankle in ’12 and a broken right hand in ’13, that have left fans wondering.

Question 5 for the Giants media- last week, this season was labeled “do or die” for TE Adrian Robinson. With all the free agent signings on the O-Line and the drafting of Richburg, is this also a “do or die” year for Mosely. How does he look in practice, and how does Mosely feel he needs to do to contribute in 2014?

S Stevie Brown- Brown has had close to a year to recover from last year’s preseason injury. He has provided Giants fans many reasons to be optimistic about the back secondary.

Question 6 for the Giants media- does Brown look ready? Is he being limited or held back from any drills or plays? Is it realistic for Giants fans to expect the old Stevie Brown?

DT Jonathan Hankins- Giants fans have not heard from Hankins since the loss of Linval Joseph to the Vikings. Hankins found himself more often on the inactive list then on the playing field, after being a 2nd round pick in 2013

Question 7 for the Giants media- How does Hankins feel about his new starting role? Is he ready to replace the always impressive Joseph? What has Hankins done this offseason to prepare for the high expectations Giants fans will have for his much needed contributions?

OG John Jerry- this former Dolphin spent every snap in 2012 and 2013 as a starting guard. If not for some injuries, the same could also be said for 2010 and 2011.

Question 8 for the Giants media-As articles are written this offseason with predictions of the starting 5 on the offensive line, Giants fans have not heard Jerry’s name mentioned even once. Can Jerry spend 2014 concentrating just on football, and surprise Giants fans by earning a starting role and contributing? Can he achieve the same success he did with the Dolphins?

DE-Emmanuel Dieke- the Georgia Tech edge rusher went undrafted, but was quickly signed as an UDFA by the Giants

Question 9 for the Giants media-How does Dieke look in his first OTA’s? The Giants signed 10 players last week as UDFA’s. Why was Dieke the only one that received a signing bonus in addition to the rookie minimum

TE Larry Donnell- the former Grambling quarterback has taken several years with the Giants to learn the tight end position

Question 10 for the Giants media-last year TE coach Mike Pope stated that 2 of his TE’s were in the 280’s and that 1 was in the 290’s. Is Donnell at his same weight as last year, or has he tried (like Robinson) to adjust his weight downward to be a better fit in the McAdoo offense? How does Donnell think the new offense helps his ability to contribute?

Any other questions that fans hope the Giants media can attempt to get answers with the start of OTA's?
Good stuff, Yankee  
Pat from Inside Football : 5/25/2014 3:40 pm : link
I printed out a copy.

One thing to remember though -- there is no live contact in the OTAs and they're generally not run at full speed. I don't know that we'll get the full picture of the pit players right now, but certainly we can try to gauge things such as improved technique, etc. (that is IF we get close enough to watch all of the drills --sometimes they keep us on the patio and they work all the way at the opposite end of the practice fields).

For those who are "sort of" familiar with OTAs and what you can get out of them, Matt Bowen wrote what I think is an outstanding article that breaks it all down, if you're interested. These are some of the things I try to watch for at these OTAs/minicamps.
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re: demotre moore  
alligatorpie : 5/25/2014 3:58 pm : link
how does a player at 250 get strong enough to handle an NFL OT at 320?

that's a 70lb swing!

really? luck with that.
I'd like to hear that  
PEEJ : 5/25/2014 4:08 pm : link
Beatty is doing well and is ahead of schedule
Well alligatorpie  
Giants : 5/25/2014 4:14 pm : link
Moore plays DE and there has been more than one DE playing around that weight, who played well. Just look at HOF player for the New York Giants Michael Strahan. He played at around 255lbs. alligatorpie know your role . I'm not saying I'm just saying
Great questions  
Bill in UT : 5/25/2014 4:20 pm : link
I might also want to know what positions they think Mosely is capable of starting at at some point,
est1986 : 5/25/2014 4:22 pm : link
Post yank, i want to hear anything about OBJ working with Eli.
Stevie Brown  
est1986 : 5/25/2014 4:30 pm : link
only showed one season of very good play, i hope he's ready and i haven't given it much thought because Will Hill has impressed me with his play, particularly in the box. Hill's style of play i believe is a better compliment to Antrel's style and our entire defense actually. But with his pending-appeal aka pending-suspension and probable release, now i'm really hoping Stevie gives us a year two of solid ball, regardless if we got Hill or not.
Did many have "high hopes" for Herman last year?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/25/2014 4:30 pm : link
I feel like that may be revisionist. He was a sixth-round pick.
Also Hankins played in 11 games.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/25/2014 4:31 pm : link
He was hardly "inactive more than he played".
giants, ok  
alligatorpie : 5/25/2014 4:44 pm : link
its nice to have a roll I guess!?!
WillieYoung : 5/25/2014 4:51 pm : link
You don't need to play d-end at 320 Michael Strahan did very well at 265. He tossed around a lot of 320 guys. Moore at 250 will remind no one of Strahan.
YANKEE28 : 5/25/2014 4:54 pm : link
thanks for adding that article. Good read

TTH-Did you read BBI last season? There were daily threads with optimism for Herman

TTH- Being dressed and playing are two different things. Hankins had 3 games in which he dressed but didn't make a tackle. He also had 4 played games in which he only had one tackle or assist per game. The thought of Hankins replacing Joseph is one of the biggest question marks on this team.
so I was not totally off base  
alligatorpie : 5/25/2014 4:56 pm : link
i mean, we all hope for the unexpected, but I have advocated the drafting of DEs who played in college around 270 or so, and allowing for former 3-4 DEs in our 4-3, assuming that they have some movement skills for it, which may or may not be rare.
who emerges at TE?  
aquidneck : 5/25/2014 4:57 pm : link
Is David Wilson healed and read to play like the 32nd overall pick this season?
re: Hankins  
bc4life : 5/25/2014 5:00 pm : link
There was a deep rotation also limiting his snaps
Herman will really have an uphill battle  
bc4life : 5/25/2014 5:02 pm : link
He probably won't beat out Mosley and there are only so many spots
watched video of Hankins last year  
bc4life : 5/25/2014 5:09 pm : link
has a lot to learn but he did a lot of good things. He could wind up being better than Joseph.
Hankins played more as a rookie than  
Phil in LA : 5/25/2014 5:12 pm : link
Linval did. Also, who cares about the receivers at the bottom of the depth chart? One question maybe, 2 questions trivial.

Moore was 260 when he got to the Giants and is reportedly up to 267 this year. His strength issues were in his legs and hips, not his chiseled upper body, as reported by Marc Ross.
yeah i didnt get that part about Hankins.  
est1986 : 5/25/2014 5:21 pm : link
I Expect him to be better than Joesph if the Giants didn't want to match that Vikings offer or come close. He looked solid, but didn't jump out at me last season.
great balance would be required to use the strength  
alligatorpie : 5/25/2014 5:25 pm : link
especially at DE. to put those moves into action.
Hankins showed surprising  
Phil in LA : 5/25/2014 5:28 pm : link
range and pursuit in his tape from last year, he also showed well against double teams.
How about  
sackpack : 5/25/2014 5:37 pm : link
Has Eli had his eyes tested ? Maybe he is color blind which is why he throws to the other color Jersey so often.
Nice job, Yankee!  
Milton : 5/25/2014 5:38 pm : link
Although I might nitpick on a couple of your assumptions.

What interests me the most during OTA's is the line up of the OL, from first string to third string and just as importantly, how they are re-arranged when one of them needs to sit out practice? This is a fluid situation and needs to be chronicled on a daily basis (rather than just stating the depth chart on day one and mostly leaving it at that).

I don't think the coaches themselves know yet how the OL will shake out and so keeping track of the player movement both up and down the depth chart as well as from position to position will be the best window into what the coaches are thinking.
Yeah, I am very interested in O-line as well  
Jimmy Googs : 5/25/2014 5:50 pm : link
Who is ready to go and who is still rehabbing?

Who is expected to be 100% by summer camp and who will likely miss some or all of pre-season.

Who is the likely #1 and #2 at each spot at the conclusion of OTA's?
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/25/2014 6:04 pm : link
post Yankee28!
area junc : 5/25/2014 6:08 pm : link
is better than joseph
My memory if the 2013 season has  
barens : 5/25/2014 7:55 pm : link
Mostly faded, but did DeMontree Moore look that bad against Trent Williams? And even if he did, Williams is becoming an excellent left tackle in the NFL.
Greatly concerned about our  
DelZotto : 5/25/2014 8:17 pm : link
DL, two Philly cuts at DT, young inexperienced back up's, DE's a guy who looked like he was going to be a superstar couldn't handle a double team, the other a skinny DE slash LB'er. Injuries could turn the DL into a free way to the QB, with a mediocre LB'er core. DB's look promising but if the DL goes to pot they better work on their tackling technique because they'll be called upon a lot of open field opportunities.
aligatorpie /Young  
Giants : 5/25/2014 9:22 pm : link
Michael played his last few years at 255 lbs.
Thank you, Yankee!  
TC : 5/25/2014 9:47 pm : link
Very nice!

Betcha if Herman doesn't get it in gear they'll stick his fat butt back in the freezer!
nice post delzotto  
aquidneck : 5/25/2014 10:12 pm : link
DL among biggest concerns going in. Going to have at least four guys on field at all times. An injury or two and I'm not sure we have four guys worthy.
RE: Patty  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/26/2014 2:18 pm : link
In comment 11695467 YANKEE28 said:
thanks for adding that article. Good read

TTH-Did you read BBI last season? There were daily threads with optimism for Herman

TTH- Being dressed and playing are two different things. Hankins had 3 games in which he dressed but didn't make a tackle. He also had 4 played games in which he only had one tackle or assist per game. The thought of Hankins replacing Joseph is one of the biggest question marks on this team.

That is not 'inactive'.

He was part of a rotation. He saw more action as a rookie than Linval Joseph did. You might be of the opinion that he didn't show much, but that's not the same thing as saying he was inactive. It gives the reader the idea that he wasn't good enough to deserve playing time, when that wasn't the case.
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