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Per Mike G: David Wilson not cleared yet

Brandon Walsh : 6/4/2014 10:03 am
will meet again with doctor right before training camp and the hope is then.

This is per twitter, can't link from work.

Not good news regardless that they didn't see enough to clear him.
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DanMetroMan : 6/4/2014 10:57 am : link
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 1m

Giants RB David Wilson, who met w/ doctors this am, will meet again w/ doctors in July and expects to be cleared for full contact in camp.
According to Schefter  
Josh in the City : 6/4/2014 10:58 am : link
Wilson still expects to be cleared for contact by training camp.
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@AdamSchefter
Giants RB David Wilson, who met w/ doctors this am, will meet again w/ doctors in July and expects to be cleared for full contact in camp.
Josh  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/4/2014 11:03 am : link
Wilson expected to be cleared today, so I wouldn't put much stock into that.
Could  
AcidTest : 6/4/2014 11:04 am : link
start on the PUP list, so we bring him in later in the year. But let's see what happens five weeks from now before camp. It would have been good if he had been cleared, but it's not a disaster that he isn't. We have Jennings and Williams.

OTOH, we could have had Cordy Glenn.
Ike  
Pete from Woodstock : 6/4/2014 11:04 am : link
Hilliard!!
Wilson  
stretch234 : 6/4/2014 11:06 am : link
He had his surgery in January and Finley had his in November - I believe about 8 weeks earlier.

That puts Finley being cleared for contact in that same window ahead of Wilson being cleared (hopefully)
RE: Josh  
Josh in the City : 6/4/2014 11:14 am : link
In comment 11710433 Eric from BBI said:
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Wilson expected to be cleared today, so I wouldn't put much stock into that.


True but that wasn't based on anything but hope. The fact that he still expects to be cleared by camp means the image today showed real tangible improvement being that he still believes that goal is attainable.
RE: Josh  
Big_Blue_Wrecking_Crew : 6/4/2014 11:14 am : link
In comment 11710433 Eric from BBI said:
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Wilson expected to be cleared today, so I wouldn't put much stock into that.


Let's not assume the worst here.

There may have been some improvement but just not enough for our sometimes very conservative staff (which is very careful to protect the players long term health and risk for injury moreso than other teams) to clear him.

Just a guess here and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but if there was no improvement I don't think we would have heard he expects to be cleared by July.
Remember one thing  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/4/2014 11:14 am : link
If he's cleared he can't be PUP'd



And who is Ike Hilton?
RE: Remember one thing  
Josh in the City : 6/4/2014 11:15 am : link
In comment 11710457 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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If he's cleared he can't be PUP'd



And who is Ike Hilton?


I believe he can still be PUP'd if he doesn't participate in team activities during camp.
Not  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/4/2014 11:19 am : link
saying we should expect the worst, but haven't you guys learned anything about not listening to what the player says about an injury?

How many times have we heard a guy like Brandon Jacobs or someone else say, "I'm fine...I'm playing..." and then they end up not or worse, on IR.

Wilson tells Schefter by e-mail that he expects to be cleared by camp. There is a very good chance that's just bluster on his part.
I'd be lot happier  
PEEJ : 6/4/2014 11:24 am : link
with a quote from the doctor.
Wilson will be a great player  
deadkurtrulz : 6/4/2014 11:24 am : link
in the National Flag League. No contact, no fumbles, no pass blocking, lots of speed. Not an NFL player though. Before or after injury. He will always be remembered for a couple of garbage time highlights. A wasted pick.
Josh once he passes his physical  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/4/2014 11:24 am : link
For camp he can't be PUP'd. If the neck bothers him in camp or preseason he is sol and would be ird if need be
yep  
alligatorpie : 6/4/2014 11:26 am : link
a pile of us wanted an OLer.
To think the NYG could have picked Cordy Glenn instead  
Optimus-NY : 6/4/2014 11:30 am : link
That would have helped the OL immeasurably.

I am not sure if this was ever known.....  
Doomster : 6/4/2014 11:33 am : link
Did the Giants know of any previous history with his neck, before drafting him?

It's a shame, because he did have to potential to take it to the house....Giants haven't had a runner like that since Morris....Tiki had long runs, but it was more because of his elusiveness rather than raw speed...

The Giants, for whatever Reason, have been snake bit with their drafts.....that can't seem to draft beyond the 1st or 2nd round, and even those picks, we get a couple years out of them and then they are gone.....Wilson, JPP, Nicks, Beatty, Phillips, Thomas, Ross, Smith, etc.

RE: Not  
AcidTest : 6/4/2014 11:46 am : link
In comment 11710468 Eric from BBI said:
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saying we should expect the worst, but haven't you guys learned anything about not listening to what the player says about an injury?

How many times have we heard a guy like Brandon Jacobs or someone else say, "I'm fine...I'm playing..." and then they end up not or worse, on IR.

Wilson tells Schefter by e-mail that he expects to be cleared by camp. There is a very good chance that's just bluster on his part.


Got to admit, that's certainly possible.
Fans should want him PUPed  
UConn4523 : 6/4/2014 11:55 am : link
I really REALLY hope they don't find a way to activate him week 1. He had the surgery 4.5 months ago and regardless off the world class rehab, fuses generally take upwards of a year to be considered "healed". I hope this kid isn't rushed back.
Optimus  
bc4life : 6/4/2014 12:13 pm : link
They definitely needed a rb given what they had on hand; however, need based drafts can come back to haunt you.

And, in view if Glenn playing fairly well at LT for the Bills, it makes you wonder what they saw or thought saw compelling them to take Wilson over Glenn.
of Glenn  
bc4life : 6/4/2014 12:14 pm : link
not if
I was wondering  
BigBlueCane : 6/4/2014 12:24 pm : link
how long it would take before people brought up him a waste of a draft pick.
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arcarsenal : 6/4/2014 12:24 pm : link
I think it's fairly obvious what the Giants saw in Wilson. We've seen it. His career has taken an unfortunate turn thus far but the book is so far from closed on this dude and people keep talking about him as if he's some past tense player who already happened and never amounted to anything.
This news doesn't seem all that surprising  
ZogZerg : 6/4/2014 12:35 pm : link
I would think there is a good chance he could be cleared by July 25. But, I agree that he should only be cleared if the Drs are 100% absolutely certain about what they are seeing.
RE: Wilson will be a great player  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/4/2014 12:43 pm : link
In comment 11710480 deadkurtrulz said:
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in the National Flag League. No contact, no fumbles, no pass blocking, lots of speed. Not an NFL player though. Before or after injury. He will always be remembered for a couple of garbage time highlights. A wasted pick.


lol. There should be a timer just for posts like these. Set it for 365 days.
RE: Not  
Big_Blue_Wrecking_Crew : 6/4/2014 12:43 pm : link
In comment 11710468 Eric from BBI said:
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saying we should expect the worst, but haven't you guys learned anything about not listening to what the player says about an injury?

How many times have we heard a guy like Brandon Jacobs or someone else say, "I'm fine...I'm playing..." and then they end up not or worse, on IR.

Wilson tells Schefter by e-mail that he expects to be cleared by camp. There is a very good chance that's just bluster on his part.


Eric you certainly have a point. Players do talk big when it comes to timetables for their return from injury. I guess we'll see.
RE: RE: Wilson will be a great player  
arcarsenal : 6/4/2014 12:44 pm : link
In comment 11710654 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 11710480 deadkurtrulz said:


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in the National Flag League. No contact, no fumbles, no pass blocking, lots of speed. Not an NFL player though. Before or after injury. He will always be remembered for a couple of garbage time highlights. A wasted pick.



lol. There should be a timer just for posts like these. Set it for 365 days.


The "z at the end of the handle" rule was made especially for douches like these.
RE: To think the NYG could have picked Cordy Glenn instead  
LauderdaleMatty : 6/4/2014 1:03 pm : link
In comment 11710489 Optimus-NY said:
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That would have helped the OL immeasurably.


Reese is whom he is. Always an athlete/potential game breaker over an OL every time. Same this year.
RE: RE: To think the NYG could have picked Cordy Glenn instead  
arcarsenal : 6/4/2014 1:06 pm : link
In comment 11710715 LauderdaleMatty said:
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In comment 11710489 Optimus-NY said:


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That would have helped the OL immeasurably.




Reese is whom he is. Always an athlete/potential game breaker over an OL every time. Same this year.


Which "athlete/game breaker" did he take over OL in the 2nd rd?
Really feel bad for this kid.  
TC : 6/4/2014 1:11 pm : link
What and exciting, promising talent, even if he wasn't destined to be an every down RB. Instead he's become the Giants "bubble boy."

I get the sense the Giants aren't including him as a significant part of their plans, and are getting close to moving on.
Whatever the Giants  
fkap : 6/4/2014 1:14 pm : link
saw in Wilson, we didn't see it on the field. As a RB, he failed. As a returner, he had good results, but we didn't spend a #1 pick on a KR.

IF he never returns to football, a large contingent of BBIers will swear that he was a great pick cut short by injury and count him in the plus column for Reese.

I hope he returns and makes me a fool. I'm confident making me a fool is fairly easy, but him returning to football, not so much, and his returning to football and making me the fool, even less.
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arcarsenal : 6/4/2014 1:20 pm : link
Actually, we did see glimpses of it his rookie year (as a RB) people just have selective memories and choose to remember one thing about David Wilson: fumbles.

Well he had a nice TD run against Cleveland in 2012  
Jimmy Googs : 6/4/2014 1:32 pm : link
and another one versus New Orleans. Had a couple good runs against Philly when they were giving up on last day of the season. And...

that, that's, that's about it.

tweet  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/4/2014 1:35 pm : link

David E. Wilson ‏@4stillRunning 54m
Dr love what he saw and I love what I heard not ideal because I love practice but SOUNDS LIKE DAVE WILL BE READY 22 ROCK WEEK1 FoSHO 👌#bless
Bear in mind  
Boris : 6/4/2014 1:36 pm : link
Our offensive line was a mess last year so every RB looked like crap. Let's reserve judgment.
There was no reason to clear him now.  
Randy in CT : 6/4/2014 1:37 pm : link
I bet he'll be ready.
Really hoping he can make it back...  
rptl530 : 6/4/2014 1:41 pm : link
could be huge for the offense and specials.

Dynamic athlete.
The great news keeps coming  
ZGiants98 : 6/4/2014 1:46 pm : link
Well I was excited for the season to start....
Some posts on this thread are weird.  
Curtis in VA : 6/4/2014 1:51 pm : link
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If the doctors say that there is 'improvement' and they schedule  
Marty in Albany : 6/4/2014 2:08 pm : link
another MRI for July, then it would seem that more people than just Wilson think that there is hope that he can play this season.

It's not like they took his height (5'10") and said "Come back in a month and maybe you'll be six feet tall."
Those are called "lifts"  
Doomster : 6/4/2014 2:19 pm : link
not MRI's....
I tend  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/4/2014 2:23 pm : link
to agree with Randy.

There is little point to clear him now.
RE: To think the NYG could have picked Cordy Glenn instead  
Riggies : 6/4/2014 2:34 pm : link
In comment 11710489 Optimus-NY said:
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That would have helped the OL immeasurably.


The worst part of taking him over Glenn is that Glenn was very likely one of the couple guys they had tiered above Wilson that was still on the board when they picked Wilson (it was confirmed by multiple quality sources that DW wasn't the highest left player).

They basically had to have viewed RB as more of a need than OL at that point in time and that's pretty hard to swallow, given what the league is now and how the 2011 season unfolded.
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Josh in the City : 6/4/2014 3:31 pm : link
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@ebenezersamuel
Giants doc Russell Warren says David Wilson has made "significant progress."
There's really no benefit in clearing him now.  
DeVito 32 : 6/4/2014 4:07 pm : link
So I'm not surprised he wasn't cleared. And I'm not worried yet. I'll start to be concerned if he's not cleared by training camp or the start of the preseason. I honestly feel even if he is cleared by then they wont let him have contact.
There's no reason to rush him into contact drills anyway.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/4/2014 4:08 pm : link
The more time he has to recover, the better.
I have not come close to writing  
bc4life : 6/4/2014 4:33 pm : link
Wilson off. It's human nature to look at a pick that may have been controversial and say - if only they had taken this guy, look at how he turned out. And, the frustration is understandable - we're in year 3 and still waiting for major contribution from a round 1 pick.

I am hopeful that with this new offense he can really tap into that explosiveness.


There was some insider talk  
bc4life : 6/4/2014 4:34 pm : link
re: Glenn's work ethic as a reason the Giants may have had him ranked lower.
I was all in for an OL (Glenn in particular) instead of Wilson  
BlueLou : 6/5/2014 5:58 am : link
at the moment of drafting, but after tabbing Wilson, looking at his tape, watching him play for the giants when he did, I can't see how (in retrospect) you fault Reese for the decision to take Wilson. We didn't know he would have neck problems at all, let alone requiring fusion of vertebrae. He's a great kid and a world class athlete who runs like a cross between the Tasmanian Devil and the Road Runner.

The injury shit is mega misfortune, but you can't call that in advance (unlike say Andre Brown's propensity to injury which was littered throughout his college career.) I still like the Wilson pick and think this guy can shine for us in the new O once he gets healthy, (presuming he does.)

There's not one mention of the spinal stenosis in the MRI reports we have been given? Is that no longer an issue?

Arcs, in the 3rd round in 2011 Reese took Jerrel Jernigan over OT/OG Clint Boling out of Georgia. Boling became a starter in 2012 for the Bengals at OG (16/16) and continued to start at OG for them in 2013 (12/12) until undone by a knee injury in game 12. Boling is the type of guy (indeed a literal example since he was on the board for us) Reese has missed on looking for more "impact" type guys like Jernigan.
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SanFranGiantsFan : 6/5/2014 7:17 am : link
Hope he can resume his career, but if not, I just hope he's able to live a long & fruitful life.

As for those who say he didn't show much, I disagree. He showed flashes & he's still pretty green. I think he could become a very good player, but we may never know.
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