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NFT: Yankees Draft Recap (Long form)

Dunedin81 : 6/8/2014 2:22 pm
My take: College-heavy draft that is largely light on potential and heavy on experience. Some of these kids are really going to move and that’s great, but even if they sign all of their preps (which seems really unlikely) it’s a draft that seems to have a lot less potential than last year’s even outside of Round 1. I like DeCarr a lot and think he could turn out to be the best prospect out of the lot. I could see near at hand contributions from Lindgren, Montgomery, Payton and Spencer and there is a lot of potential in Foley, Gittons, Thompson and Kelzer. They seem to have really tried to find college guys with stories over the last few years, guys like Palladino and Smith who have room to grow like preps but don’t have prep signing demands. Cave and Toffey are uncertain signs but would add ceiling to this group if they do join the org. Guys like Carley, Borens, Chin, Barrow and Jose might have some more untapped potential but a lot of question marks. And a few of these guys like Conde, Slaybaugh and Gordon are likely to slide into org roles over the next year or two. Interesting draft, likely to be understood in conjunction with the looming IFA binge and also the guys coming stateside from the last couple IFA classes.

I cribbed a lot of this from RAB, Pinstripe Alley (a good read if you're bored) and The Baseball Cube.

2 Jacob Lindgren LHRP Miss St.
Polished lefty reliever with nasty stuff, sits 91-95 with a fastball and gets his K’s with a wipeout slider. One of the best groundball rates in the business, which will serve him well at YS. Undersized at 5’11” and 205. Crazy K rate, 93 (21 BBs) in 51 IP, 0.88 ERA and a WHIP well below 1.000.

3 Austen DeCarr RHSP Salisbury School – Prep (sorta)
Big-body starter at 6’3” and 218, sits low to mid-90’s on his FB and has the makings of a plus curve and a developing change. As a cold weather kid he’s a little more projectable than most. Clemson commit, I’d guess he gets around slot but he might take more.

4 Jordan Montgomery LHSP U of South Carolina
Another big body at 6’4” and 225, he’s a “plus makeup” guy with a low-90’s FB that won’t hit much higher than 91, but it has run and sink and he can locate it. Best pitch is a changeup, also throws a cutter and a curve. Had a lights out 2013 with a 1.48 ERA, it climbed to 3.42 this year. K rate increased but so did his HR and walk rates, maybe throwing a little harder but locating poorly. Pretty modest ceiling but he should move.

5 Jordan Foley RHSP Central Michigan
6’3” and 215 pound righty with a mid-90’s FB, he can maintain his velocity into games. Inconsistent slider, developing change and sinker. Despite the knocks for inconsistency, it looks like he made a conscious effort to address the walks and finished with a BB/9 of roughly 2. His K rate took a dip too.

6 Jonathan Holder RHRP Miss. St.
Actually the closer at MSU, with Lindgren usually pitching multiple innings. Low 90’s FB and a great curve, excellent control. First of a number of fat bodies at 6’2” and 242, likely to sign for underslot.

7 Mark Payton OF U of Texas
Lefty hitting center fielder for UT, little at 5’8” and 190, very limited pop but a great contact tool. Almost a Taylor Dugas clone, walked 49 times this year to 22 strikeouts, hit a crazy .393 last year, this year down to .319 but with a .355 OBP. OPS over .900 the last three years. 16/16 on SB attempts this year but smarter than he is fast, very little pop (1 HR the last two seasons) but maybe some latent as he is said to hit with loft. Probably doesn’t have the legs for CF but said to have a great arm and solid instincts.

8 Conner Spencer 1B UC Irvine
Lefty hitting 1B who had a crazy .373 BA this year (.443 OBP/.496 SLG), 21:21 K:BB, problem is 0 HRs in more than 400 Pas. Unless you’re John Olerud a 1B is supposed to hit HRs, and even he had a few. Rep as a very good defender. Probably underslot/org type, but maybe he surprises.

9 Vincent Conde SS Vanderbilt
Righty hitting SS who hit exactly .307 the last two years, as many BBs as K’s this year (33) and a little bit of pop (10 HR over the last two years). 10/12 on SB attempts. Rep for being somewhat mediocre defensively by professional standards and his arm may require a transition to 2B. Underslot candidate.

10 Ty McFarland 2B James Madison
Lefty-hitting senior sign, 6’3” and 190 lbs, just 19 K’s each of the last two seasons. .317 this year, .339 and .330 the two prior years. Power spiked a little this year from 4 HRs up to 9. Definitely an underslot but could surprise.

11 Matt Borens RHSP Eastern Illinois
Lanky-bodied righty at 6’7” and 185 (if that’s right), 100:36 K:BB over 109 IP this year, gave up 15 HRs which suggests he doesn’t locate well in the zone (at least not yet), solid 3.39 ERA though. Last year in summer ball (Coastal Plain League) threw to a solid 3.75 ERA and .213 opposing BA. Solid walk rate of roughly 3.3/9 for his height.

12 Chris Gittons 1B Grayson CC
Thick righty 1B at 6’4” 250 gifted with what Phil might call “now power”, one of the best JUCO bats in the country hit .424 with 12 HRs, 35 BBs against 28 Ks in 227 Pas.

13 Bo Thompson 1B The Citadel
Another guy with “now power” with a lithe, graceful athlete’s body (5’10” and a reported 250+), Bo (real name is Leonard) has hit 23 HRs over the last two years and walked a combined 95 times (w/ 36 HBPs). Power and patience are his hallmarks. He won’t move enough to be more than a lead-footed 1B but the power potential is great.

14 Sean Carley RHP WVU
Another candidate for Team Anorexia at 6’4” and 250, he seems to have eaten his way out of the Air Force Academy. His figure screams “Bartolo Colon” (or Kenny Powers) but he throws mid-90’s and already has TJS out of the way. Developing slider and changeup. This year managed a 2.95 ERA and 47:26 K:BB in 73.1 IP. Also hit 10 batters (probably for jumping him in the cafeteria line). Already 23 years old.

15 Andrew Chin LHP Boston College
6’1”, 190 lb with a rep as a crafty lefty, former 5th round pick of the Blue Jays, paced Boston College starters with 3.10 ERA, K:BB of 52:32 in 78.1 IP is unimpressive but his .214 opposing BA and 3 HRs allowed were. Also hit 11 guys who probably also deserved it. Threw to a 6.45 ERA on the Cape last year. FB described as upper 80’s with a good change, can work both sides of the plate and up and down. I doubt high 80’s gets you drafted in the 5th though, so maybe that’s just BS.

16 Derek Callahan LHP Gonzaga
6’4” 205 lb lefty threw 50.2 IP of 4.26 ERA ball, with 27:20 K:BB, none of which is remotely impressive, but dominated a wood bat league a few years back to a 2.25 ERA, throws 90-92 on a good day with a developing slider, curve and change. Basically your average lefty who throws hard enough to break a window with a baseball so will get a look.

17 Garrett Cave RHP South Sumpter HS
6’4” 180 lb righty, very young (turns 18 next month), sits low 90’s with his FB, improving curveball, change is usually the last to come on a prep guy. Raw, mechanics need cleaning up but athletic and a lot of potential there. An FIU commit so likely not unassailable, depends on whether we have the money and whether he’s the overslot we choose to spend it on.

18 Justin Kamplain LHP Alabama
6’0” 175 lb lefty, looks to have been a weekend starter at Bama with a 2.90 ERA and 1.07 WHIP, 69:31 K:BB this year in 90 IP (just 65 hits surrendered). Strong summer on the Cape in 2013 with a 1.65 ERA and 41:18 K:BB in 38 IP. High-80’s to low-90’s lefty with a live FB and a curveball, if he can command them he could be a nice pick.

19 Joe Harvey RHP Pitt
6’2” and 220 lb righty, 3.27 ERA but 29:20 in 33 IP, four-pitch pitcher (including a low-90’s FB) but if the control sucks he’s probably not going to amount to much. Worth a look.

20 Corey Holmes RHP Concordia (TX)
6’6” 200 lb righty relieved for WVU last year to a 5.71 ERA in 17.1 IP, went to Concordia where he allowed just 1 ER in 18.2 IP, 29:6 K:BB. Maybe he turned a corner or maybe the level of competition just dropped.

21 Porter Clayton LHP Oregon
6’4” 215 lb lefty who throws low-90’s with a change and what RAB describes as a slurve. Swingman was not all that effective (4.46 ERA, 1.46 WHIP, more walks than K’s - 26 to 25 in 36.1 IP) as a collegian but presumably the Yanks like something about his repertoire. And he’s a lefty, and has a pulse.

22 Jake Kelzer RHP Indiana
Huge kid (6’8” and 230) who is a superb athlete as he also swam D1, Kelzer is one of the handful of really intriguing draftees. Closed for IU, hurling a 2.03 ERA and 1.00 WHIP over 31 IP, with a 44:9 K:BB. 90-91 FB (presumably with a good downward plane) and slider he used as a strikeout pitch.

23 Will Toffey 3B Salisbury (HS)
6’2”, 195 lb left handed hitter who played short in HS but is likely to move off the position going forward, Toffey is a strong prospect with a Vandy commit who seems likely to be a tough sign. Strong arm. I’ve heard him described as having below average speed and speed as a strength so who knows? Good bat speed, expected to have develop power as he moves.

24 Dominic Jose CF Stanford
6’3” 195 lb switch-hitter, a part-time player who didn’t find much success at college (.200 BA as a senior). Presumably the Yankees like a tool or two and think he can work with him, son of former Yankee Felix Jose. This switch-hitting shortstop at least represented a better value than the last one.

25 Dylan Barrow RHP U of Tampa
6’3” 190 lb righty who is pretty new to pitching, as a former shortstop he is athletic and runs it up to 96 on the gun, mid-80’s on a breaking ball. He is just 20 so he has some potential.

26 Collin Slaybaugh C Washington State
Lefty catcher and senior sign at 6’2 and 185, .309/.381/.373 career slash line, 27/33 career stolen bases, will probably either start for SI or caddy for a prospect, maybe Torrens if they choose to send him there.

27 Griffin Gordon OF Jacksonville State
Lefty-hitting senior draftee, .380/.447/.521 line with 29 BBs to 19 Ks, 7 HRs and 18 XBHs, 10/11 on SB attempts.

28 Lee Casas RHP USC
Big (6’7” and 255 lb) senior draftee, didn’t appear for USC as best I can tell after transitioning from JUCO, I know nothing about the guy.

29 Mariano Rivera RHP Iona
Lanky like his dad, stands 5’11” and 155 lbs, just 20 years old, said to sit around 90 with a decent slider as his out pitch, 5.40 ERA in 70 IP with 50:26 K:BB. Dad apparently wants him to finish school but he wants to get started.

30 Jorge Perez RHP Grand Canyon State
6’2” 205 righty who ranked as BA’s #2 prospect in the West Coast League (unconfirmed reports say the #1 prospect returned to his little league team mid-season). FB topped out around 91 this spring but hit 93-94 last year, some concerns about tendonitis apparently. Fringey slider and an above average change complete the repertoire. 3.43 ERA and 38:12 K:BB in 63 IP this year but that was apparently while nursing injury. RAB lists him as a “depth” pick but if he’s healthy he could be more.

31 Devyn Bolansky CF UC Riverside
5’11” 185 lb lefty hitter, .336/.370/.398, 14/21 on SBs, quintessential “scrappy” guy with a K rate of under 9%.

32 Jordan Ramsey RHP UNC-W
6’4” 200 lb righty who dropped for some reason, supposedly a blister and a triceps injury, sits low-90’s but has touched as high as 96, secondary stuff (slider and change) said to be average on a good day, RAB says a bullpen prospect. His 5.40 ERA this year and 42 Ks in and 6 HRs in just 49.2 IP won’t wow anyone (though his 14 BBs are impressive). Last year though he had a 2.34 ERA in 104 IP, with a 1.16 WHIP. There is more talent there than he showed this year.

33 David Graybill RHP Arizona State
6’4” 225 lb righty two-way player, expected to pitch as a pro (good considering he hit just .227). No info about his repertoire.

34 Matt Wotherspoon RHP Pitt
6’1” 175 lb righty, curious tumble for the Pitt right-hander who can touch mid-90’s with his FB, has a plus breaking ball and a good changeup, 3.70 ERA this year with a 1.27 WHIP, 85:33 K:BB in 107 IP, quality starter for an ACC program. A senior with a chance to be a big-leaguer, surprised he fell this far.

35 Chris Hudgens C Valhalla HS
6’1” 190 lb prep catcher, the only one we drafted this year. Cal State Fullerton commit hit 12 HRs as a senior in HS and threw out 48% of base-stealers, not sure how high his ceiling is but he’s not a non-entity.

36 William Gaddis RHP Brentwood HS
Prep righty has been on the map for a couple years, was in the high 80’s last year (not sure about now) with movement, along with a promising slider and change. Committed to Furman. Listed at 6’0” and 175 but that could be dated.

37 Ryan Lindemuth 2B William and Mary
Right-handed contact hitter with more BBs than K’s (20 to 16), 6 HRs as a senior. To illustrate the shitty nature of reports for middling or worse prospects, he has been described as having little or no patience but had a .445 OBP this year. Senior though, almost certainly filler.

38 Andre del Bosque RHP University of Houston-Victoria
80 Name tool, 6’0” 225 lb 5th year senior who had TJS, no idea what he throws.

39 Cameron Warren 1B Carl Albert HS (OK)
6’3” and 210, the righty U of Oklahoma commit has power potential, had 8 HRs as a HS senior with a .463 BA. Maybe there is something there, but prep 1B are rarely a hot commodity because you can’t move anywhere after 1B.

40 Madison Stokes SS AC Flora HS (SC)
Righty hitting shortstop who probably moves off the position going forward, he was projected in the 10-12 round range but fell. University of South Carolina commit. Line drive hitter with the ability to get bigger than 6’3” and 190. Has dealt with some injury issues, seems likely he attends college.

I will update with signings when I see them and bump it to keep it from going stale.
Dominic Jose apparently kissed his bicep after hitting a HR...  
Dunedin81 : 6/8/2014 2:49 pm : link
last week in the regionals. Haha. Just intrigued that they liked him enough to pinch hit with him.
..  
Named Later : 6/8/2014 2:58 pm : link
Wow !! That is a lot of pitching. If only 25% of those arms pan out......that's a valuable commodity.

Dune -- I've been listening to the Charleston River Dogs on the internet over the past few weeks. They've got some hitters down there. Mike Ford at 1B and Aaron Judge in RF. I realize it's Low A Ball, but that's where it starts.
Yeah some guys down there who are hitting...  
Dunedin81 : 6/8/2014 3:01 pm : link
Avelino was but he's temporarily on the shelf. Katoh and Andujar are also very good prospects, as is Torrens (who is injured right now). They're not hitting now but they're very talented and it might take them more than a year at the level for it to click.
Toffey like Payton  
Phil in LA : 6/8/2014 3:02 pm : link
was a big hockey player first, and their skate speed has not transferred to run speed yet.
Thanks Dune.  
section125 : 6/8/2014 3:07 pm : link
Appreciate the info. Great job.
Matt Wotherspoon seems like he's signing or has signed...  
Dunedin81 : 6/8/2014 3:12 pm : link
he retweeted something wishing him well as he began his career with the Yanks.
Thanks Dunedin81  
Ed A. : 6/8/2014 3:48 pm : link
Very interesting read. Really appreciated. Thank you again for a major effort on your part.
RE: Toffey like Payton  
Dunedin81 : 6/8/2014 3:57 pm : link
In comment 11717741 Phil in LA said:
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was a big hockey player first, and their skate speed has not transferred to run speed yet.


Sorry, I recorded Payton's OBP as .355. It was .455.
Why only 2 ss?  
superspynyg : 6/8/2014 4:08 pm : link
Especially with the one may having to switch to 2b. Do we aveva prospect that they think will be our ext Ss on th MLB level?

I like the arms. A few of them ave to an out, right?....
I'm guessing that between Thairo Estrada...  
Dunedin81 : 6/8/2014 4:17 pm : link
and DSL imports Angel Aguilar and especially Jorge Mateo they may be comfortable with what they have. Jorge Mateo is a potential top prospect. The 40th rounder probably won't sign, so it should be just Conde.
I also think they're getting a bunch of shortstops  
Phil in LA : 6/8/2014 6:09 pm : link
next month, including that kid from Korea.
Thanks for putting that together  
RobotGhost : 6/8/2014 6:15 pm : link
Bringing value added here as always.

RE: I also think they're getting a bunch of shortstops  
Dunedin81 : 6/8/2014 6:25 pm : link
In comment 11717871 Phil in LA said:
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next month, including that kid from Korea.


Definitely, plus Baez and Yonauris Rodriguez (2013 bonus baby) are still in the DSL.
Not a surprise...  
Dunedin81 : 6/8/2014 8:34 pm : link
madison stokes @madisonstokes1 · 22h

Although it's an honor to be drafted by the Yankees, I'm going to proudly be a gamecockđź”⚾️ thank you all for your polite compliments!
Based on Twitter:  
Dunedin81 : 6/8/2014 8:40 pm : link
Sean Carley has signed and is headed to SI.

Corey Holmes has signed and is headed to SI.

Bo Thompson tweeted a picture of his locker, so it seems he has signed.

Ryan Lindemuth seems to have signed as well.

Lindemuth is 23  
Phil in LA : 6/8/2014 9:42 pm : link
and out of eligibility.
The two DSL teams  
Phil in LA : 6/8/2014 9:43 pm : link
are about a combined 11-2.
So DeCarr's  
Phil in LA : 6/8/2014 11:53 pm : link
number was so high over slot, they had to rebudget. They knew this before they picked him, so they felt they had to have him. The only other prep who could sign is Cave.

They didn't pick positional preps earlier because they are getting a monster IFA class, with SS/3B's, C's and OF's,
DeCarr and Cave must be signed  
sinctybldh : 6/9/2014 12:14 am : link
or to me this draft is a failure.
btw very good write up  
sinctybldh : 6/9/2014 12:16 am : link
Dunedin. I appreciate the hard work you put into this review.
I'm still writing my r  
Phil in LA : 6/9/2014 12:18 am : link
reviews.

And sin, DeCarr is a done deal. But don't throw out the other guys they got just because they went to college.
I just hate that the Yankees seem to ignore so many  
sinctybldh : 6/9/2014 12:21 am : link
high upside high school kids. I get that they believe they have had success with college kids but if you have a very good high school kid with a bright future why pass on that particular player? Is this a money issue?
They liked this year's college class better than this year's prep  
Phil in LA : 6/9/2014 12:29 am : link
class. Also they have a big class of IFA's coming in, as well as a bunch coming over for the FSL.
FSL?  
sinctybldh : 6/9/2014 12:31 am : link
florida state league? they are going to start 16 year old kids at high a or am I reading that wrong?
I mean the  
Phil in LA : 6/9/2014 12:38 am : link
GCL.
ah ok  
sinctybldh : 6/9/2014 12:40 am : link
is there a web site that shows which dominican league players will be promoted to the GCL Yankee teams?
Probably not a free one  
Phil in LA : 6/9/2014 1:06 am : link
but I can ask. They have some big signings from last year who should be on the way and maybe the year before.
i do subscribe to patrick's site.  
sinctybldh : 6/9/2014 1:09 am : link
he does a great job over there.
Sin  
Dunedin81 : 6/9/2014 7:10 am : link
Off the top of my head, Mateo, Molina and Palma are probably the big position players, Angel Aguilar probably a little less so. DOmingo Acevedo, Simon de la Rosa and Manolo Reyes on the mound are probably the guys you should look out for. They'll have a few others but they seem to be the guys with potential to break out.
Phil  
Dunedin81 : 6/9/2014 7:16 am : link
Sucks to hear De Carr's number is so high, but glad it seems like they'll get him in the fold. There is certainly potential among the collegians, guys like Dylan Barrow (still just 20) are barely "college-aged" in the sense that they're coming from JUCO-land. And guys like Caleb Smith, Corey Black and Philip Walby have definitely pitched above their college performance as pros and guys like Palladino will hopefully show some of that this year. They're not going to have much of a shot at the guys who both perform in college and still have upside so they have to focus on the guys who for whatever reason didn't perform - injury, mechanical flaws, what have you - and try to turn them around. Jose is in that class, considered to have plus power potential a couple years ago but got a season's worth of ABs spread out over three years to prove it.
Dunedin  
Phil in LA : 6/9/2014 8:58 am : link
what they said they went for on the arm side was "swing and miss" and on the bat side "plate disc" and "plate disc with power."
Carley actually tries to look like Kenny Powers.  
BeerFridge : 6/9/2014 9:09 am : link
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Sean Carley found it ironic that he was sitting in the barber's chair when the New York Yankees called.

No, the former Melbourne Central Catholic and West Virginia hard-throwing right-handed pitcher wasn't quite losing the mullet yet.

"I was just getting shaped up for Saturday night's graduation/draft party," he said. "It's funny that I was getting my hair cut because the Yankees are known for having strict rules about being clean-cut and all that."

...

Often compared to fictional television baseball character, wildman Kenny Powers, on the show "Eastbound and Down," Carley said he'd have to retire the Powers routine in the minors, at least for now.

"I may not look like Kenny Powers when I begin in the minors," he laughed, "but I guaranteed at some point he will make a return."





Easily my favorite new draftee. Also notes that they changed him from starting to relieving. Maybe that's one reason the Yankees liked him - probably they see him as a future closer type.
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Carley  
Phil in LA : 6/9/2014 9:11 am : link
started out at air force academy. And we drafted 2 other pitchers who get the Kenny Powers comp.
I love it. Hopefully they issue Carley number 55  
BeerFridge : 6/9/2014 9:22 am : link
And let's just pencil in Mo Rivera Jr for 650 career saves.
Musing and Informative  
Percy : 6/9/2014 9:36 am : link
Thanks for this. Sure do hope a couple of the pitching prospects work out. Hard to watch the Yankees rotation these days.
RE: Dunedin  
Dunedin81 : 6/9/2014 9:42 am : link
In comment 11718330 Phil in LA said:
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what they said they went for on the arm side was "swing and miss" and on the bat side "plate disc" and "plate disc with power."


Probably a safe bet on both counts. The downside of it is we're not likely to end up with another Bryan Mitchell or Mason Williams out of the collegian crop, but the upside is we're not likely to end up with another Bryan Mitchell or Mason Williams out of the collegian crop. We'll see where the results are in twelve months or in two or three years.
Refsnyder up to .338 in Trenton  
BeerFridge : 6/9/2014 10:03 am : link
.
Andre del Bosque headed to Tampa...  
Dunedin81 : 6/9/2014 11:16 am : link
if they want him he'll sign. Not a guarantee though.
Got the hitters review  
Phil in LA : 6/9/2014 12:28 pm : link
up on my blog. Did the pitchers last night.
Let's see if Andre  
Phil in LA : 6/9/2014 12:28 pm : link
can make it without breaking anything.
Link it up Phil, your stuff has been great so far...  
Dunedin81 : 6/9/2014 12:31 pm : link
Matt Borens tweeted he was on the way to Tampa to begin his career, whether that means he has signed or is just headed in for a physical I'm not sure. He's a guy I would have assumed was fodder but the 11th round is almost pride of place as the first round after senior signs so I wonder if they see more there than I do reading a stat sheet.
Okay  
Phil in LA : 6/9/2014 12:33 pm : link
here it is.
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Dunedin  
Phil in LA : 6/9/2014 12:34 pm : link
they like him. That was the first guy they popped on Day 3 and he was atop their list.
Apparently Chris Hudgins posted a pic of him...  
Dunedin81 : 6/9/2014 12:35 pm : link
in a Yankee uniform. Why are you sure he isn't signing?
Also,  
Phil in LA : 6/9/2014 12:35 pm : link
Dunedin, the didn't really draft fodder and don't anymore. They get the guys to do extra work, so just about everyone they're drafted has something they want. It's not Lin Garrett style.
Dunedin  
Phil in LA : 6/9/2014 12:36 pm : link
I wasn't sure he wasn't signing. I just knew he had some leverage. Great get if he signed.
I was confused for a second.  
Phil in LA : 6/9/2014 12:38 pm : link
okay, it's Chris Hudgens the prep catcher? He posted on Max Preps he wasn't, but something might have happened. I was told the most likely prep after DeCarr was Cave.
Bringing it full circle...  
Dunedin81 : 6/9/2014 1:02 pm : link
Justin Pugh ‏@JustinPugh 5m

@SeanCarley23 has to be everyones new favorite baseball player. I hope you live your life like Kenny Powers. First beer on me #yankees
Okay so Hudgens played on a Yankee Scout team  
Phil in LA : 6/9/2014 2:44 pm : link
and that's why he's in the uni, no progress there at all.
Foley will sign...  
Dunedin81 : 6/9/2014 4:27 pm : link
not sure when or for how much.
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All the top 10 will sign  
Phil in LA : 6/9/2014 5:16 pm : link
it's 11 through 30 that are up in the air.
Aaron Judge told his college coach...  
Dunedin81 : 6/10/2014 7:40 am : link
he has been told he'll be in High A after the All-Star break. The Yankees do that a lot, give guys a chance to be honored and then move them up. He may not be the only one who gets a promo.
Sorry, here's the clip  
Dunedin81 : 6/10/2014 7:41 am : link
You'll note the Girardi-like affinity for adding "ie" to the end of everyone's name. I doubt "Judgie" will stick though.
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after last night's game  
Greg from LI : 6/10/2014 8:03 am : link
I'd love it if the Yankees could get Josh Sborz next year. He's not close to a finished product yet but his stuff is downright nasty.
Sborz, Jones and Kirby next year...  
Dunedin81 : 6/10/2014 8:04 am : link
and Pinero and LePrise in the field. This team is graduating a lot of talent and still easily a Top 25 team next year.
I wonder if Pineiro is going to be able to stick at SS  
Greg from LI : 6/10/2014 8:12 am : link
You don't see a lot of 6'6" middle infielders, but I'm not sure he has the bat to play third.

When Sborz is pitching with confidence instead of nibbling, like he did last night, he can just overpower guys with that mid '90s heat and killer slider.
Bat is really coming along...  
Dunedin81 : 6/10/2014 8:34 am : link
he hit like a shortstop at the beginning of the season, he has been much more effective of late.
They actually drafted a Mariano Rivera?  
Jay in Toronto : 6/10/2014 8:35 am : link
What chutzpa. That kid is going to be traumatized.

Loved:"Also hit 10 batters (probably for jumping him in the cafeteria line)"
Rob Refsnyder  
Phil in LA : 6/10/2014 4:38 pm : link
got promoted to AAA..
If he hits the ground running in Scranton  
Greg from LI : 6/10/2014 4:41 pm : link
He'll be in the Bronx by August, I bet.
I'm pretty sure Mariano's son  
YAJ2112 : 6/10/2014 4:42 pm : link
isn't traumatized by having his name.
Good news on Refsnyder...  
Dunedin81 : 6/10/2014 4:56 pm : link
won't be the last in the next couple weeks.
Ha! Dammit. Was gonna go see Refsnyder play in New Britain  
BeerFridge : 6/10/2014 4:58 pm : link
this weekend.
Not a surprise...  
Dunedin81 : 6/10/2014 5:35 pm : link
Patrick Ebert ‏@PGPatrickEbert 41m

#Yankees 4th round #mlbdraft pick LHP Jordan Montgomery has signed and will head to play at Staten Island affiliate after physical in Tampa
...  
Dunedin81 : 6/10/2014 5:37 pm : link
Former #Pitt pitchers Joseph Harvey (19th round) and Matt Wotherspoon (34th round) have both signed contracts with the New York #Yankees.
Wow...  
Dunedin81 : 6/10/2014 7:03 pm : link
NE Baseball Journal ‏@NE_Baseball

Foxboro's @RiDeCarr7 will report to Tampa tomm to sign with Yankees. Offer is for twice slot value for Pick 91. 2013 slot value == $575K.

Going to take some creative accounting to make this work. Probably kiss the other signability guys goodbye.
good  
sinctybldh : 6/10/2014 7:17 pm : link
he was the most important player to sign. I just hope they can get Cave done.
toldja Sunday  
Phil in LA : 6/10/2014 8:03 pm : link
night.
yes u did.  
sinctybldh : 6/10/2014 8:16 pm : link
good call on that. thanks.
thanks for the writeup Duned  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 6/10/2014 8:19 pm : link
and good stuff all-around in this thread.
Also Dietrich Enns had TJS today  
Dunedin81 : 6/10/2014 8:30 pm : link
...
Miguel Andujar hit his 5th HR...  
Dunedin81 : 6/10/2014 8:44 pm : link
He had a pretty awful May and he has struggled a bit in his adjustment to night games (mashing in day games but SSS) but the power has improved, the BA is (slowly) trending up and hopefully he can finish the year on a high note.
Not a surprise either...  
Dunedin81 : 6/10/2014 9:04 pm : link
Jack Curry ‏@JackCurryYES 2m

Jacob Lindgren, Yankees' first pick in draft, is heading to Tampa on Thurs to get physical. Precursor to officially signing deal w/ Yankees.
I think I like Gittens the most  
sinctybldh : 6/10/2014 9:07 pm : link
among the hitters they drafted. It seems he has a pretty high ceiling. Are chances good they will sign him?
Watching Kendry Morales play  
sinctybldh : 6/10/2014 9:13 pm : link
for the Twins is really making me mad. This guy is doing something that the middle of our lineup has failed to do and that is getting hits. Why this team thought it was smart to pass on an above avg hitter like him is beyond me.
This is pure supposition...  
Dunedin81 : 6/10/2014 9:15 pm : link
but according to what Phil said and what I've read elsewhere DeCarr's bonus demand was higher than expected. So it would seem unlikely they'd have the flexibility to do much of anything else. Maybe, maybe a JUCO sign like Gittons or Barrow, but guys like Cave and Toffey are likely no-gos.
Gittons has a comp to DJ Peterson  
sinctybldh : 6/10/2014 9:17 pm : link
that needs to be a priority there. Yankees need as many high ceiling players in their system as possible.
I haven't heard about Gittons  
Phil in LA : 6/10/2014 9:22 pm : link
but I was told that Cave was still a possibility. They saved some money around the top 9.
Btw,  
Phil in LA : 6/10/2014 9:29 pm : link
I'm glad they're letting Andujar and Katoh work though it in Charleston. It's a split Season in the Sally, so they can get a fresh start without a demotion if they're making progress.

O'Brien  
Phil in LA : 6/10/2014 9:32 pm : link
and Roller have both homered tonight. Some of the milb games are in rain delay.

DSL1 is a power house, that can beat you any way you want to play it.
Katoh has been very hit or miss (literally)...  
Dunedin81 : 6/10/2014 9:32 pm : link
Andujar has been a little more promising and has looked better of late, while Katoh seems to break out of his slump for a game or two, hit an XBH or two, and go right back into the 0-fers.
Katoh's too good to  
Phil in LA : 6/10/2014 9:41 pm : link
keep struggling all season. He'll get it going. Just has to slow it down, which is true of most slumps. They try to speed it up and get it all back at once, instead of slowing it down and being simple.
Got another UDFA named  
Phil in LA : 6/10/2014 9:48 pm : link
Travis Hissong. RHP, hits 94-95 and was off to a hot start in the Northwoods League. He will be on the SI Yanks.
Goody had another inning where  
Phil in LA : 6/10/2014 10:22 pm : link
he struck out the side.
Patrick's interview with Damon Oppenheimer is up...  
Dunedin81 : 6/11/2014 8:12 am : link
at PinstripesPlus. If you needed a reason to give it a try this is it.

Phil, I'm hoping Rumbelow and Goody go up in the near future. Both talented kids, look like they're too good for the level.
...  
Dunedin81 : 6/11/2014 9:22 am : link
Josh Norris ‏@jnorris427

Per Damon Oppenheimer, the #Yankees have agreements with their 10th, 11th, 13th, 19th, 26th, 27th, 34th, 37th and 38th rounders.
BTWtheir 7-8-9 picks are all playing in the CWS...  
Dunedin81 : 6/11/2014 1:35 pm : link
so tune in if you get a chance.
Bleich to start at AAA tonight  
Dunedin81 : 6/11/2014 3:44 pm : link
Probably just a spot start, though it's not out of the realm of possibility that he could be there to stay. He has flashed a few times during his career but not nearly enough and like Yogi was apt to say it's getting late early.
RE: Got another UDFA named  
Del Shofner : 6/11/2014 4:08 pm : link
In comment 11721637 Phil in LA said:
Quote:
Travis Hissong. RHP, hits 94-95 and was off to a hot start in the Northwoods League. He will be on the SI Yanks.


Staten Island Yanks start on Friday with a home-away-home-away 4-game series with Brooklyn. Funny to do it that way, but it guess it promotes interest.
Yanks kept Ramirez  
Phil in LA : 6/11/2014 7:36 pm : link
and sent down Daley. Also, the re-acquired David Huff from the Giants for money and dumped LeBlanc.
Derek Callahan tweeted something about today being the day...  
Dunedin81 : 6/12/2014 8:43 am : link
I don't generally like to decipher the Tweets of collegians but it could be something.
Ugh Heathcott, yay everything else...  
Dunedin81 : 6/12/2014 1:42 pm : link
Josh Norris @jnorris427 · 1h

Additionally, don’t be surprised if Judge and Severino move soon, as well as Nick Goody. Not today or tomorrow, necessarily, but soon.



Josh Norris @jnorris427 · 2h

Name to watch is Jorge Mateo. Shortstop with what Newman called the best tools in the organization. 80 runner with power. #Yankees



Josh Norris @jnorris427 · 2h

RT @hir0kikur0da: @jnorris427 Any word on Jagielo or Avelino? //Week to 10 days on Jagielo, two weeks or so on Avelino/Torrens



Josh Norris @jnorris427 · 2h

Just talked with Mark Newman for a long while. Slade Heathcott is going to get his knee scoped again in a couple of days. #Yankees
Here's a look  
Phil in LA : 6/12/2014 2:25 pm : link
at how they've used the short season teams
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..  
Dunedin81 : 6/12/2014 2:59 pm : link

Dan (New York)


What are your thoughts on Rob Refsnyder? Just got called up to AAA after kicking but in AA. What sort of ceiling does he have, and who would be a good comp? Thanks.
Klaw
(1:25 PM)


He's not a major league 2b yet on defense. He's not a .300+ hitter either - I was surprised the Yanks promoted him on the small sample and .391 BABIP. That's not to say I don't like him, but he's become the flavor of the month and he's not THAT kind of guy.
I saw that Phil...  
Dunedin81 : 6/12/2014 2:59 pm : link
it's good stuff, it's nice to get away from the old drafts that were half org guys.
...  
Dunedin81 : 6/12/2014 3:07 pm : link
Jordan Foley ‏@JFol12 Protected Tweets 5m

Just signed my professional contract with the New York Yankees. Pretty amazing and surreal feeling!
Not a .350 hitter, no  
Greg from LI : 6/12/2014 3:30 pm : link
But his triple slash last year was .293/.413/.413. It's not like he hadn't shown contact ability before now.
.391 is high...  
Dunedin81 : 6/12/2014 3:36 pm : link
but he's a career .344 and that's depressed by a .263 in half a season after being drafted. He could be a .300 hitter at the next level.
talking about any Yankee minor leaguer  
Phil in LA : 6/12/2014 5:49 pm : link
you have to remember those parks suppress hitting.
Mason Williams and Cito Culver both went deep tonight...  
Dunedin81 : 6/12/2014 8:40 pm : link
both of them have been hitting the cover off the ball after shitty starts to the season.
They really have  
Phil in LA : 6/12/2014 8:54 pm : link
I think they are both in the .230's now and they've come a long way. Now they have to keep it going. But this is the best Mason has hit in about a season and a half.
They're going to have to start pruning rosters here pretty soon...  
Dunedin81 : 6/12/2014 9:07 pm : link
SI has 30 or so guys ticketed for the opening day roster and a few more to follow. Some of them are probably going up, some of them probably going out. For instance, first base presumably from SI through SWB (if O'Brien is a 1B) is stacked, and with Bubba Jones, Bo Thompson, maybe Chris Gittons, Conner Spencer and then Mike Ford at Charleston something has to give.
We've got bottlenecking and  
Phil in LA : 6/12/2014 9:18 pm : link
rubbernecking at the lowest levels. So while they're all stalled there, they should be taught plate disc.
Derek Callahan tweeted another pic...  
Dunedin81 : 6/12/2014 9:58 pm : link
of him at a baseball game in Tampa with his agent. Either he has signed or he is in Tampa to negotiate.
if it wasn't a Rays game  
Phil in LA : 6/12/2014 11:34 pm : link
assume he's signed.
Nah it was at Steinbrenner Field...  
Dunedin81 : 6/12/2014 11:36 pm : link
And he's fielding congratulatory tweets. Safe to assume he's signed.
31st rounder Devyn Bolansky is on the SI roster...  
Dunedin81 : 6/13/2014 9:52 am : link
so he apparently has signed.
Kelzer seems likely to go back to Indiana...  
Dunedin81 : 6/13/2014 1:36 pm : link
not a huge surprise, he's a two-sport star.
RE: 31st rounder Devyn Bolansky is on the SI roster...  
Del Shofner : 6/13/2014 1:56 pm : link
In comment 11725524 Dunedin81 said:
Quote:
so he apparently has signed.


here's the SI Yanks' roster. It's been fun watching it fill up this week and wondering if they would get to the finish line by tonight (opening night). It's always interesting to me how these kids are just like a week or two removed from wherever they were and now playing pro ball in Staten Island (and the same goes for Brooklyn, even though that's the Mets).
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This is somewhat better news...  
Dunedin81 : 6/13/2014 7:21 pm : link
Jim Callis ‏@jimcallisMLB 2m

3rd-rder Austin DeCarr signs w/@Yankees for $1 mil. Pick value = $585,100. Conn. HS RHP, 6-3/218, FB to 95, promising curve. @MLBDraft
Judge hit his 9th...  
Dunedin81 : 6/13/2014 7:54 pm : link
a 3-run bomb. He should be in Tampa in a week or so, the SAL All-Star game is next Tuesday.
Judge is also playing plus D  
Phil in LA : 6/13/2014 8:11 pm : link
in right tonight. He should be in the FSL, but he seems like the goods as a RF.
I get that they want to give him a chance to be recognized...  
Dunedin81 : 6/13/2014 8:17 pm : link
just as long as it doesn't go any longer than that.

ManBan had three strong innings, 1 H, 0 BB, 3 K.

Dan Camarena needs a promotion too, btw.
Graham Stoneburner was released...  
Dunedin81 : 6/13/2014 8:24 pm : link
tough end to a career that started in a very promising manner.
Pineda being out till August  
Phil in LA : 6/13/2014 8:47 pm : link
probably means Cash will trade for a starter.
for those of you not in NYC, the SI Yanks' opener was rained out  
Del Shofner : 6/13/2014 8:51 pm : link
tonight, miserable weather here. I guess they'll open in Bklyn tomorrow.
Rookie Davis with a gem too...  
Dunedin81 : 6/13/2014 9:01 pm : link
5 IP 3 H 0 R 1 BB 3 K. He needed that, he hadn't had a good full length start in two months. Too much talent to be in the doldrums like he's been.
...  
Dunedin81 : 6/13/2014 9:55 pm : link

Sweeny Murti @YankeesWFAN · 51m

“@Slindgren19: Congratulations to @JLindgren19 for signing with the Yankees today! #notbadfirstjob”// Yanks top pick begins the journey.
Lindgren apparently signed for slot...  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2014 1:07 pm : link
the potential savings is dwindling.
Signed Casas, Callahan and Holmes  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2014 2:52 pm : link
...
...  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2014 7:50 pm : link
Lohud Yankees Blog @LoHudYankees · 6h

More draft signings: LHP Lindgren (Rd. 2); RHP DeCarr (3); RHP Foley (5); RHP Holder (6); LHP Callahan (16); RHP Holmes (20), RHP Casas (28)
Peter O'Brien #23  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2014 8:36 pm : link
...
Palladino  
Phil in LA : 6/14/2014 8:46 pm : link
got off to a rough start.
He got shelled, a bunch of walks too...  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2014 9:18 pm : link
Severino though had another great start, 6 IP 3 H 1 R 1 ER 1 BB 8 Ks. Unhittable after the first inning. I think you're right, this is probably his last start before promotion.
I think I would consider punting next year's one for  
Phil in LA : 6/14/2014 10:42 pm : link
Will Toffey or if it meant getting Toffey and Cave.
I really wouldn't...  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2014 10:44 pm : link
this wasn't an unsignable guy, if he had gone in the top six or seven rounds he might have signed. He's a nice enough prospect, but with the slot value and the overage you're probably missing out on a first rounder AND a prospect of his caliber.
Nice article about Dylan Barrow...  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2014 10:51 pm : link
one of the more intriguing picks. He has apparently touched 98 with his FB and is light on pitching experience. He didn't pitch this year because he wasn't eligible yet. He might improve his draft stock by going back for another year and competing next spring but he'll also be a year older and devoid of leverage. Hopefully it gets done.
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Only reason I wouldn't do it, though  
Phil in LA : 6/14/2014 10:51 pm : link
if because we're spending around 6M on SS who will also probably be pro-3B's in three weeks.
Next year, assuming we don't sign a big FA...  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2014 10:56 pm : link
we're going to need to rely on the draft to bring in talent since IFA will be constrained (even though the fruits of this year's IFA will hit stateside next year).
He's also a cold weather kid  
Phil in LA : 6/14/2014 11:21 pm : link
and a two sport kid. Great tool kit, though.

Next year we should end up with more than 1 first rounder.
Possibly...  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2014 11:25 pm : link
not sure if teams will pay out the ass for DRob if he has a QO. It might mean we get him back at a slight discount.
We can trade for  
Phil in LA : 6/14/2014 11:28 pm : link
those comp picks, which would help us get a higher rated talent and a bigger pool.
Theoretically we can...  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2014 11:37 pm : link
but we didn't this year when we didn't even have a first rounder, so who knows what the asking price for those picks is?
A trade was made that we weren't in  
Phil in LA : 6/14/2014 11:38 pm : link
and it was for a major league close arm. We probably didn't do it this year because of the injuries to the pitching staff, and maybe a little because of the monster IFA class.
Severino  
Phil in LA : 6/15/2014 3:22 pm : link
promoted to Tampa.
Good stuff...  
Dunedin81 : 6/15/2014 4:35 pm : link
best pitching prospect we've had since Banuelos.
Bo Thompson  
Phil in LA : 6/15/2014 4:40 pm : link
started his Yankee system career with a walk. Agnew-Weiland is being wild but dominant.

Mitchell melted down in the 6th inning of his start for Trenton.
Mitchell was cruising...  
Dunedin81 : 6/15/2014 4:46 pm : link
one bad pitch, otherwise just one walk and two hits going into the sixth.
Clarkin hit the first batter  
Phil in LA : 6/15/2014 6:17 pm : link
then De Oleo threw him out stealing. Then Clarkin gave up a double.
Judge is not in the line-up  
Phil in LA : 6/15/2014 6:20 pm : link
for Charleston.
Clarkin is straight  
Phil in LA : 6/15/2014 7:06 pm : link
dealing.
Yeah watching this too...  
Dunedin81 : 6/15/2014 7:19 pm : link
What, eleven in a row?
Recovers from a leadoff single...  
Dunedin81 : 6/15/2014 7:30 pm : link
with a strikeout, a lazy fly ball and a two-out K with a RISP.
Clarkin!  
Phil in LA : 6/15/2014 7:30 pm : link
He's really showing some pitch-ability to go along with his sick stuff.
Omar Louis  
Phil in LA : 6/15/2014 7:45 pm : link
doesn't have it back, yet.
5 IP 2 H 0 R 0 BB (1 HBP) 5 K...  
Dunedin81 : 6/15/2014 7:58 pm : link
final line for Clarkin. Kid has been a little up and down this year but a ton of talent.
Just catching up  
Phil in LA : 6/15/2014 8:46 pm : link
he missed time last year with the ankle, then had to make a rolling start in the Sally. Plus, seems like he's getting squeezed on his curveball, and was again a few times tonight. That's a sick pitch.
Dunedin,Phil  
mitch300 : 6/15/2014 9:11 pm : link
How do you see the games? Are they televised?
MiLB.TV...  
Dunedin81 : 6/15/2014 9:14 pm : link
it's a pay service but I'm a geobachelor during the week so I don't mind it. You can also find a lot of the audio for the games online for free.
Thanks  
mitch300 : 6/15/2014 9:15 pm : link
.
Manolo Reyes on for SI...  
Dunedin81 : 6/15/2014 9:28 pm : link
stateside debut.
Austin Aune  
Phil in LA : 6/15/2014 9:34 pm : link
had an RBI double last inning and they'd be up if the second runner hadn't stopped. Now they're down 1 in the bottom of the 6th.
Reyes perfect with 3 K in 2 relief IP  
Dunedin81 : 6/15/2014 10:02 pm : link
...
Lefties with  
Ash : 6/15/2014 10:05 pm : link
stuff and pitchability usually anchor WS winning Yanks teams. One can hope.
He doesn't walk guys  
Phil in LA : 6/15/2014 10:24 pm : link
and that's what you worry about with power lefties, and they cannot hit his curve in the Sally League. Still a teenager. He and Severino are the goods, and the team they were playing is probably thrilled to see them leave.
Keith Law and David Cameron of Fangraphs...  
Dunedin81 : 6/15/2014 10:31 pm : link
are having a Twitter-fight over the value of projections.
Gary Sanchez has been benched for 5 games...  
Dunedin81 : 6/15/2014 11:00 pm : link
I have no idea what he did to warrant that.

I saw him a couple weeks ago haul ass around the bases on a routine pop-up. The fielder misplayed it and he was standing on 3B. Plenty of "scrappy" players would have dogged it on such an obvious out. Makes me think it has to be something off the field.
I'm not a fan of the Trenton  
Phil in LA : 6/15/2014 11:02 pm : link
Manager. His teams don't grind at all, yet he gets on his best players, which he shouldn't do till he's doing a good job.
Winning is nice...  
Dunedin81 : 6/15/2014 11:08 pm : link
and I know injuries matter, but it seems to be the point at which many of our best position prospects have stalled. Maybe it's a talent thing, but after a couple years if you're really looking at how to improve the development you have to wonder if it's really a coincidence.
Yup  
Phil in LA : 6/15/2014 11:17 pm : link
I think he's an old school NL dumbass who doesn't know the value of an out. They fired Billy Masse several years ago for trying to win, and this guy does the same thing. Nobody's really developing there, and any plate disc they have they brought with them.
Chad Jennings with some minor league notes...  
Dunedin81 : 6/16/2014 2:26 pm : link
good stuff.
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Yanks reportedly ink Korean SS Hyo-Jun Park...  
Dunedin81 : 6/16/2014 3:03 pm : link
the now-18 yo shortstop has a rep for a slick glove and gap power. The deal is apparently for $1.1 mil or so and will probably not be announced until 7/2.
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Instead of wasting a million on that player  
sinctybldh : 6/16/2014 3:08 pm : link
I wish they would go after this player. This is exactly the type of player the Yankees should be targeting!
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I don't really think it matters...  
Dunedin81 : 6/16/2014 3:10 pm : link
with their spending binge, forking out money for this guy probably has little relationship to their willingness to spend money on Rondon.
ya but  
sinctybldh : 6/16/2014 3:11 pm : link
i don't hear they are connected to him. That is the problem.
very surprised nuno  
sinctybldh : 6/16/2014 3:11 pm : link
wasn't dfa today. he is a piece of shit and needs to go.
meh, he's a AAAA pitcher.  
BeerFridge : 6/16/2014 3:26 pm : link
Not a major league pitcher. They probably won't plan on letting him start again, even if he's not dfa'd
No obvious successor...  
Dunedin81 : 6/16/2014 3:29 pm : link
if they find one they'll cut his ass, but Shane Greene has been struggling a little bit and Bryan Mitchell is still in AA.
I kinda wonder if they would stretch out  
BeerFridge : 6/16/2014 3:35 pm : link
Warren
Mitchell sucks  
sinctybldh : 6/16/2014 3:39 pm : link
5 era in a pitchers league. That is terrible.
Can anyone really do as bad as Nuno?  
sinctybldh : 6/16/2014 3:40 pm : link
maybe they can catch lightning in a bottle and someone can do an Aaron Small act for them. Sitting here and doing nothing is non productive. The sooner they dump Nuno the better the chance they have at improving on the season.
Mitchell hasn't put it together yet...  
Dunedin81 : 6/16/2014 3:41 pm : link
he doesn't "suck" though. Through five innings he threw one bad pitch yesterday. When he is on he is unhittable.
He has a 5 era dude  
sinctybldh : 6/16/2014 3:44 pm : link
You don't get to 5 unless you have got major issues. I am unsure if he is ever going to figure it out.
It took Shane Greene repeating Tampa...  
Dunedin81 : 6/16/2014 3:48 pm : link
and getting a handle on his walks to emerge as a prospect. Mitchell has some of the best stuff in the organization, he just hasn't been able to put it all together yet.
Dunedin81, give it up. Sin has seen his ERA on the internet  
BeerFridge : 6/16/2014 3:54 pm : link
it's over for Mitchell. :)
RE: He has a 5 era dude  
rich in DC : 6/16/2014 3:55 pm : link
In comment 11730425 sinctybldh said:
Quote:
You don't get to 5 unless you have got major issues. I am unsure if he is ever going to figure it out.


I think the problem is in his head- his stuff is amazing. It might not be a bad idea to put him in the pen. With his FB alone, he's a potential closer. If he only has to work on ONE off-speed pitch and command, he might put it together.

In his case, it isn't that he has stalled out in AA- he just has not had sustained success at any level. Like Betances, you have to give GREAT arms every chance, but when the results aren't there, you have to give in and send him to the pen.
Haha  
Dunedin81 : 6/16/2014 3:57 pm : link
sin knows this farm very well, I'd take his opinion over most. I've seen Mitchell live and I've seen him on MILB.TV though and it's not a stretch to say that when he's good he is easily one of the best two dozen pitching prospects in the game. It's the bad inning problem though, clearly a mental issue. It's not a lack of effort, he just overthrows and loses his command in and out of the zone.
Betances had more success in the minors than Mitchell has had.  
BeerFridge : 6/16/2014 3:58 pm : link
But, they waited till Betances was 25 to convert him and Mitchell probably has another year before they look at that option for him.

At any rate, he's not even close to ready to replacing Nuno.
I'd give Jairo Heredia the next shot  
Phil in LA : 6/16/2014 4:39 pm : link
also, looks like the Yanks got the Korean SS Park.
Heredia allowed 13 hits and 8 runs in 5.2 AAA innings this year  
Greg from LI : 6/16/2014 4:52 pm : link
Why would he be any more effective than Nuno?
anyone is better then Nuno  
sinctybldh : 6/16/2014 4:56 pm : link
again heading into yesterday's game he had an 8 era in the first inning. Now it is probably over 10. He gives them little to no shot at winning games. I don't understand why this is so hard for anyone to understand or figure out. I don't care who they call up or sign. Anybody is better then this guy.
If someone is going to come up and suck...  
Dunedin81 : 6/16/2014 4:56 pm : link
it might as well be someone with prospect status. The problem with Heredia starting is that they don't view him as a starter anymore and he isn't stretched out.
just wondering  
sinctybldh : 6/16/2014 4:58 pm : link
why they cant bring Banuelos up and let him go 4 innings or so. Is that any worse then Nuno's 2 to 3 innings he pitches?
that's a silly statement  
Greg from LI : 6/16/2014 4:59 pm : link
But, since virtually everything you post these days is hysterical shreiking, have at it.

Nuno's a bad MLB starter. Replacing him with a guy who got destroyed in his brief AAA stint improves them how, exactly?
does it hurt to try?  
sinctybldh : 6/16/2014 5:01 pm : link
or is trotting nuno out for same old same old helpful?
Banuelos had a great outing last time...  
Dunedin81 : 6/16/2014 5:06 pm : link
hopefully they'll be willing to take the training wheels off, but he will still require significant time in AAA before they contemplate sending him to the Bronx. He's probably a 9/1 callup.
Sin, for you...  
Dunedin81 : 6/16/2014 5:26 pm : link
Kiley McDaniel ‏@kileymcd 6m

Legit; tied him to Rays for $3.5M in Feb http://sbb.scout.com/2/1375072.html MT @RusselHenderso1 Adrian Rondon: rare talent or mostly hype? NYY on him?
Greene with an interesting start...  
Dunedin81 : 6/16/2014 10:22 pm : link
6 IP 2 H 2 R 2 ER 4 BB 3 Ks. Control was a huge part of his success last year and while he hasn't had terrible control he's closer to 4 BB/9 than the 2 figure he was flirting with last year.
Sanchez was back in the lineup tonight...  
Dunedin81 : 6/16/2014 10:27 pm : link
golden sombrero tonight, of course he has had a week layoff so that's not entirely unexpected.
Dustin Fowler was the SAL player of the week...  
Dunedin81 : 6/16/2014 10:45 pm : link
He was 11 for his last 28 with 2 2B, 2 3B and 2 HRs, with 2 BBs and 3 Ks in that span. Fowler is just 19 years old and while he may not have the speed of Heathcott or even Cave he is already displaying a fair amount of pop. A lot to like about the kid, really playing good baseball while being very young for the level.
Big fan of Fowler  
Phil in LA : 6/16/2014 10:52 pm : link
also, Connor Kendrick could turn into something.
that would be awesome  
sinctybldh : 6/17/2014 3:47 am : link
if we land Rondon. There is no way the Rays should have the financial capabilities to beat us out for him.
Sin  
Dunedin81 : 6/17/2014 6:08 am : link
We don't always have a choice. These "helium" guys sometimes get found by teams and have a verbal in place before the other teams get a shot, it can be just luck. Breaking them is considered bad form, which is why the Yanks tapped out on Ynoa even though they could have easily topped the bid. The agents have to maintain their credibility and so even if they get a higher offer they usually stick with the initial agreement.
Cervelli up, Murphy down...  
Dunedin81 : 6/17/2014 3:39 pm : link
blech. At least Murphy should get regular reps. Still sucks.
eh, don't see the big deal  
Greg from LI : 6/17/2014 3:42 pm : link
Murphy stopped hitting and playing every day in Scranton would be better for him long-term than playing once a week in the Bronx.
Wally Pipp  
Phil in LA : 6/17/2014 4:45 pm : link
would have been the Yankee 1B for a lot longer under this rationale.
that is a pretty ridiculous comparison, Phil  
Greg from LI : 6/17/2014 5:09 pm : link
.
Not really,  
Phil in LA : 6/17/2014 5:15 pm : link
Pipp was a way the fuck better player than Cervelli, and Lou was way the fuck better than Murphy. But the similarity is that Lou was better than Pipp., and Murphy is better than Cervell. The difference is Lou got to keep playing.
Maybe if Wally Pipp had been on roids...  
Dunedin81 : 6/17/2014 5:16 pm : link
he wouldn't have lost his job. Go that extra mile.
Because Louis Gehrig was awesome  
Greg from LI : 6/17/2014 5:27 pm : link
Murphy hasn't hit for shit in six weeks or so.

I don't think Murphy's proven to be better at this point anyway.
RE: Not really,  
section125 : 6/17/2014 5:27 pm : link
In comment 11732058 Phil in LA said:
Quote:
Pipp was a way the fuck better player than Cervelli, and Lou was way the fuck better than Murphy. But the similarity is that Lou was better than Pipp., and Murphy is better than Cervell. The difference is Lou got to keep playing.


For all the Cervelli hate, he had one of the highest BAs in baseball with RISP and 2 outs in 2012 - somewhere near .500. Cervelli (roids or not) was better than Stewart (not saying much, I know) and if he had stayed healthy would have been the starter and I doubt McCann is here. Maybe Murphy is the regular backup in that case.
Cervelli  
Phil in LA : 6/17/2014 5:36 pm : link
can't stay healthy. And Murphy is better than he is, and apparently without any peds.
Based  
mitch300 : 6/17/2014 5:37 pm : link
on numbers only Cervelli and Murphy should be our catchers.It's sad when you go 1 for 4 and your average goes up.
RE: Cervelli  
section125 : 6/17/2014 6:02 pm : link
In comment 11732080 Phil in LA said:
Quote:
can't stay healthy. And Murphy is better than he is, and apparently without any peds.


Both true.
Ben Badler of Baseball America says  
sinctybldh : 6/17/2014 6:28 pm : link
of the international players that are projected to sign that the Yankees are expected to get 4 of them. 5 if they can some how get Rodon. I hope they can get him. If he is anything like Hanley Ramirez they should be all over him.
They're getting more than  
Phil in LA : 6/17/2014 6:56 pm : link
4.
actually  
sinctybldh : 6/17/2014 7:20 pm : link
he said they weren't ranked based on talent. he ranked them based on signing bonuses.
Luis Torrens will be catching today...  
Dunedin81 : 6/18/2014 10:59 am : link
EXST I think. Not sure if he goes back to Charleston or just picks up with GCL or NYP when he is ready.
Montgomery signed for slot, or roughly so...  
Dunedin81 : 6/18/2014 12:45 pm : link
Holder was a $70K savings. Don't expect many, maybe any, deals for over $100K after the 10th round, it's going to take every scrap of savings to afford DeCarr's bonus without penalty. It seems to me they're probably still about $200K short, give or take.
Do you mean going over the  
Phil in LA : 6/18/2014 1:05 pm : link
5% mark?
Yeah I was accounting for the 5%.  
Dunedin81 : 6/18/2014 1:20 pm : link
DeCarr got around $420 over. Our 5% figure is just north of $150 so we're down to $270. With Holder we're down to $200. Figure McFarland was probably between $10K and $50K, most likely closer to $10K, so that'll drop it down to $150 or so. The remaining guys have a little bit of leverage but not much, so it seems likely our pool savings would be in that ballpark. Maybe we cobble together enough to go $150 on a guy, but any more than that is probably out of reach.
Why don't people understand how this works yet?  
rich in DC : 6/18/2014 1:32 pm : link
Under the new rules, the FIRST thing a club does before they pick a player in the top 10 rounds is call and get them to agree to a bonus. The teams KNOW with a GREAT deal of certainty how much they will need to pay those top 10 round picks by the end of the 10th round.

In fact, teams probably know to within a couple thousand dollars how much they need to spend on their top 10 round picks by the end of day 2 of the draft.

You also seem to forge that the 7th rounder, Payton, is a College senior. He will be VERY cheap. The Yanks also selected Spencer and Conde (the 8th and 9th rounders) knowing they will save some $$ there as well. The Yanks didn't draft those 2 because they were the best talent options at that point in the draft- they picked them because they knew what it would take to sign them.

Further, I guarantee you that the Yanks knew the exact number it would take to sign DeCarr before they even picked him- and picked him knowing how much they would need to save on subsequent picks.

This isn't rocket science people- every team does this, and will continue to do so as long as the current draft rules concerning the top 10 rounds are in place.
I'm sure the Yankees understand their plans...  
Dunedin81 : 6/18/2014 1:38 pm : link
a lot better than I do. All I'm trying to do is discern them. They may have gone into the draft expecting to sign nobody after Round 10 for >$100K. They obviously have not made that publicly available. I think you may overrate, at least to an extent, the teams' knowledge of bonus demands. Ballpark, probably. Exact dollar figures? Probably not. And you're also probably overrating their immutability. One of these guys could hit out of his mind in the CWS and say "I'm not signing for less than full slot. I enjoy being a collegian." Conversely they could have a bonus demand loosely agreed to and then a physical could turn up and issue and that $60K demand could go to an offer of $30K take it or leave it.
Problem with the CWS thought  
rich in DC : 6/18/2014 1:50 pm : link
College seniors can't go back to school- not an option. Payton has zero leverage.

Also, the only reason that nothing has come out on signing Payton, Spencer and Conte is that all 3 are still playing in the CWS, so they officially can't sign or negotiate until their team is eliminated.

While officially players can't have agents, let's just admit that there is a whole lot of wink-wink, nudge-nudge on that. When you are not a top 3 round pick, you aren't getting life-changing money, so you go for the best deal available.

In the case of Spencer and Conte, their "advisors" have made quite clear to them that they are never going to get a better deal than they will now. By being a top 10 round pick, you can get more than $100,000- which you will NOT get if you go back into the draft and enter as a college senior (because neither one will go in the top 3 rounds next year). Thus, you agree to a somewhat below slot bonus, and still get more than $100,000 (which also would not have happened if you were picked outside the top 10 rounds).

In short, the conversation with their "advisor" will be very short- the "advisor" will tell them in no uncertain terms that if they don't take the below slot agreed upon numbers, they will never see that kind of money again. The "advisor" will tell them they can have around $100,000- $110,000 now, with no strings, or they can go back in the draft and expect not even to break $10,000 in bonus next year, if that much.

Like I said, this isn't rocket science- and for MOST kids, the difference between $100,000 and $10,000 (or less) is not something they or their families can afford to pass up, no matter how much fun college is.
Info on Yanks' IFA targets...  
Dunedin81 : 6/18/2014 4:08 pm : link
the 2nd, 3rd, 5th and 10th best prospects reportedly have handshake deals. #2 SS Dermis Garcia ($3.6 mil), #3 3B Nelson Gomez ($2.8 mil), #5 OF Juan De Leon (undisclosed) and #10 OF Jonathan Amunduray are all reportedly in the fold. Badler said De Leon could have the best tools of the bunch. Amunduray is Venezuelan, the other three are Dominican.
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Of De Leon...  
Dunedin81 : 6/18/2014 4:09 pm : link
Ben Badler ‏@BenBadler 9m

Scout: "He might be the best of all these guys. He’s got 5-tool potential with 3 of those tools potentially plus."

By "all these guys" he means the IFA pool, not just the Yankee signs.
no like i said yesterday  
sinctybldh : 6/18/2014 4:10 pm : link
those rankings aren't based on who is the best. they are based on who got the highest signing bonuses.
It's more than 4  
Phil in LA : 6/18/2014 4:13 pm : link
and there are more catchers, too.
Sin  
Dunedin81 : 6/18/2014 4:31 pm : link
Gotcha. Wasn't sure if it was a different list.
are yankees signing any top  
sinctybldh : 6/18/2014 4:40 pm : link
international pitchers?
Haven't heard about  
Phil in LA : 6/18/2014 4:41 pm : link
any pitchers, but they probably will since they are all about pitching.
I heard this year's crop of pitchers...  
Dunedin81 : 6/18/2014 4:43 pm : link
isn't that well-regarded (the Yankees believe the position players are though) so while they might make a couple big-dollar signs they addressed pitching through the draft and everything else through 7/2.
BTW I want Rondon more then  
sinctybldh : 6/18/2014 4:43 pm : link
just because he has a Hanley Ramirez comp on him. I figure if the Yankees sign as many of these top young kids as possible that they have to strike gold with at least one of them. If they hit on at least one that makes all the money invested worthwhile.
But the point is...  
Dunedin81 : 6/18/2014 4:45 pm : link
the Hanley comp doesn't mean he's the second coming, or even that he bears any similarity to Hanley. It means someone went with a line that they knew would get repeated ad nauseum. Badler also says De Leon has the potential for three plus tools, five tool prospect, with maybe the best upside of the bunch. If Rondon is the second coming of Hanley Ramirez, he'd be head and shoulders the best prospect of the group and that's not even a consensus opinion, nowhere near it.
Yes, comps are like a meme. Once you hear them, it's hard to  
BeerFridge : 6/18/2014 4:46 pm : link
look at a player in any other way.
it doesn't matter to me  
sinctybldh : 6/18/2014 4:51 pm : link
like i said the more of these players the yankees sign the better the chance of them striking on at least one. How many times have u heard us get a player similar to DeLeon and they never amount to nothing? The Yankees have a plethora of those types that they have signed over the years.
Oh sure...  
Dunedin81 : 6/18/2014 4:57 pm : link
but they're signing someone they think may be the best shortstop in the class, they signed a highly regarded Korean shortstop, Mateo may be the best of the position players who came north this year and Aguilar is in the conversation too, Yonauris Rodriguez is doing very well in DSL for a 17 year old. They've thrown a lot of money at shortstop, they won't all pan out but out of 7 or 8 guys who either got big bonuses or were otherwise highly regarded one or two likely will.
again, Jackson Melian was supposed to be the second coming of  
Greg from LI : 6/18/2014 5:02 pm : link
Mickey Mantle. You have better odds of winning at keno than projecting 15 and 16 year old kids.
Something very strange happened  
Phil in LA : 6/18/2014 6:33 pm : link
to Jackson Melian, though.
This is the 12th rounder...  
Dunedin81 : 6/19/2014 12:02 pm : link
chris gittens ‏@cgittensome

Ready to get to work!!!!!! 4 more days #tampa
Andrew Chin on the Cape...  
Dunedin81 : 6/19/2014 12:23 pm : link
5 IP 2 R 2 BB 4 K (wasn't a box score, didn't say how many hits)
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Dugas to AAA (Richardson to the DL)...  
Dunedin81 : 6/19/2014 12:25 pm : link
Also Wilkerson Garcia, a Venezuelan SS linked to the Mets, is now likely to go to the Yanks.
Last consecutive post, at least for the time being...  
Dunedin81 : 6/19/2014 12:32 pm : link
the Yanks are scouting John Mayberry from the Phils as a backup 1B and platoon bat.
His dad  
Phil in LA : 6/19/2014 1:10 pm : link
Finished up with the yanks.
Dunedin  
mitch300 : 6/19/2014 1:45 pm : link
Chad Jennings mentioned in a tweet that Dugas out performed some in AA. Whats the word on him?
No power, no speed...  
Dunedin81 : 6/19/2014 2:13 pm : link
just a very good contact tool and a lot of patience. Professionally he has 138 BBs against 103 Ks (this year 24 BBs against 29 Ks). Low ceiling, high floor kid.
Thanks  
mitch300 : 6/19/2014 2:19 pm : link
Seems like maybe a DH/ pinch hitter type.
He works hard...  
Dunedin81 : 6/19/2014 2:22 pm : link
he'll be a very solid 4th outfielder for someone. Maybe not us, we'll see.

Also per the Twitter traffic of some of the Tampa Yankees (DBJ, Cave), Judge is in Tampa.
...  
Dunedin81 : 6/19/2014 2:35 pm : link
Pinstriped Prospects ‏@PinstripedPros 4m

The @SIYanks will be getting a new pitcher soon, Justin Kamplain a LHP out of Alabama.
Mark Payton  
Franz69 : 6/19/2014 3:16 pm : link
made Sportscenter Top 10 last night.
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BP has some free scouting reports up...  
Dunedin81 : 6/19/2014 3:20 pm : link
here is Ian Clarkin.
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Bryan Mitchell  
Dunedin81 : 6/19/2014 3:23 pm : link
...
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...  
Dunedin81 : 6/19/2014 3:26 pm : link
Nick Flammia ‏@TYRadioGuy 5m

A few @TampaYankees transactions: OF Zach Wilson and UT Jose Toussen promoted to the Double-A @TrentonThunder. More...
Confirmation...  
Dunedin81 : 6/19/2014 3:33 pm : link
Nick Flammia ‏@TYRadioGuy 8m

And finally...the one #yankees fans have waited for...OF Aaron Judge (@TheJudge44) promoted to High-A @TampaYankees from the @ChasRiverDogs.


Plus Custodio activated from the DL.
More promotions  
Dunedin81 : 6/19/2014 5:18 pm : link
Goody apparently to Trenton
Cale Coshow apparently is in Charleston as well...  
Dunedin81 : 6/19/2014 11:16 pm : link
and Heathcott is back on the AA roster.
GCL starts in the morning  
Phil in LA : 6/20/2014 12:01 am : link
no rosters yet.
RE: Yeah I was accounting for the 5%.  
rich in DC : 6/20/2014 10:25 am : link
In comment 11733304 Dunedin81 said:
Quote:
DeCarr got around $420 over. Our 5% figure is just north of $150 so we're down to $270. With Holder we're down to $200. Figure McFarland was probably between $10K and $50K, most likely closer to $10K, so that'll drop it down to $150 or so. The remaining guys have a little bit of leverage but not much, so it seems likely our pool savings would be in that ballpark. Maybe we cobble together enough to go $150 on a guy, but any more than that is probably out of reach.


according to MLB.com, McFarland signed for $10,000- with his slot being $137,000- meaning the Yanks saved $127,000. Payton MIGHT get a LITTLE more than that, but the slot for a 7th rounder is higher too. However, Texas and Vandy play today in what could be Texas' last game (Vandy would have to lose to Texas twice for Texas to advance).

I would also expect that the Yanks have worked out a below-slot deal with Spencer (as UCal Irvine got eliminated a couple days ago). I expect Conte to get a slightly below slot deal as well.

All will be fine.
Gittens and Jose are in the GCL  
Dunedin81 : 6/21/2014 4:44 pm : link
So have clearly signed
Clarkin pitches  
Phil in LA : 6/21/2014 5:03 pm : link
today.
Clarkin just  
Phil in LA : 6/21/2014 9:04 pm : link
struck out the side in the 4th.
Dylan Barrow had a nice outing in the Northwoods League...  
Dunedin81 : 6/22/2014 4:41 pm : link
6 IP 1 unearned R 2 H.
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Justin Kamplain signed and debuted for SI today...  
Dunedin81 : 6/22/2014 10:25 pm : link
perfect inning with two K's
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Shouldn't everyone but  
Phil in LA : 6/22/2014 11:01 pm : link
Conde be available to sign now?
I don't think  
Phil in LA : 6/22/2014 11:59 pm : link
SI has hit a home run yet.
RE: Shouldn't everyone but  
Dunedin81 : 6/23/2014 6:05 am : link
In comment 11739102 Phil in LA said:
Quote:
Conde be available to sign now?


Yes. But sometimes they'll give them a week post-CWS to rest before bringing them to Tampa.
Encinas started for  
Phil in LA : 6/23/2014 1:01 pm : link
GCL1 today!
awesome  
sinctybldh : 6/23/2014 4:36 pm : link
Manny Banuelos has been placed on the Double-A Trenton DL. I’m not sure what’s wrong with him, but he did miss about two weeks with arm fatigue a few weeks ago. Banuelos missed most of 2012-13 with elbow problems, including Tommy John surgery.
this is a relief  
sinctybldh : 6/23/2014 5:17 pm : link
Yankees prospect left-hander Manny Banuelos has been placed on the disabled list with Double-A Trenton due to blisters.
It probably won't keep him out of action for long. Banuelos, who missed all of last season following Tommy John surgery, has a 3.31 ERA and 35/11 K/BB ratio in 35 1/3 innings over 13 starts and one relief appearance this year between High-A Tampa and Double-A Trenton.
Jorge Mateo was 2-5 with his third and fourth SBs today...  
Dunedin81 : 6/23/2014 5:30 pm : link
that's pretty much in a weekend. This is a guy whose run tool has been described, maybe optimistically, as an 80-grade.

Also Chris Cabrera made his stateside debut, was once very highly touted but dealt with appendicitis and Thoracic Outlet Syndrome IIRC, might still have a ceiling though.

Drew Bridges was 2-5 with a double, one of the overslots last year and a very talented kid.
mateo  
sinctybldh : 6/23/2014 5:33 pm : link
has some power too, yes?
Angel Aguilar, an IFA SS who isn't as good as Mateo...  
Dunedin81 : 6/23/2014 5:33 pm : link
but might be more polished, was 3-5 with two HRs today.

Also Jonathan Holder debuted with GCL today, probably a quick stop before SI or even CHarleston.
Yes. Not sure if it is average...  
Dunedin81 : 6/23/2014 5:34 pm : link
above average or plus, but he's one of the toolsiest guys they've had in the system in awhile.
2 home runs  
sinctybldh : 6/23/2014 5:36 pm : link
is impressive by aguilar. hope he is the real deal.
Sinc  
Johnm/Dallas : 6/23/2014 5:50 pm : link
You probably follow the minors more than I do... what's your take on Refsnyder. He has his average up to .318 in AAA after hitting .342 in AA. I know hes a converted OF. Is his defense major league ready? I know AAA right now is still a small sample, but hes hit at every level so far.
I am not really sure if he has progressed on defense.  
sinctybldh : 6/23/2014 5:58 pm : link
I think it is a good thing that the Yankees think enough of him to have promoted him to AAA. If his defense wasn't coming along I doubt they would have been so aggressive on him.
I also  
sinctybldh : 6/23/2014 6:02 pm : link
think they will probably call him up some time soon. They can't continue to go with Roberts.
Mike Newman on Luis Severino...  
Dunedin81 : 6/23/2014 7:36 pm : link
Says the best SAL pitcher he had scouted since Teheran.
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O'Brien  
Phil in LA : 6/23/2014 7:47 pm : link
Homered again.
Pirela has also  
Phil in LA : 6/23/2014 7:53 pm : link
homered.
whitley  
sinctybldh : 6/23/2014 7:59 pm : link
getting shelled today. this game is over.
Roller  
Phil in LA : 6/23/2014 8:16 pm : link
homered, too.
DePaula 5  
Phil in LA : 6/23/2014 8:34 pm : link
shutout innings.

Charleston PP'd rain.
O'Brien  
Phil in LA : 6/23/2014 9:18 pm : link
hit a second homer tonight.
Considering DePaula's last start...  
Dunedin81 : 6/23/2014 9:32 pm : link
this one was all the more remarkable. When he is on he is filthy, when he lacks command he is quite the opposite.
2011 12th rounder Cody Grice...  
Dunedin81 : 6/23/2014 11:19 pm : link
and one-time IFA signing Mikeson Oliberto have been released. Both looked promising early but became org types after they stalled.
There's going to be less and less room  
Phil in LA : 6/24/2014 12:16 am : link
for org types going forward.
Staten Island  
Phil in LA : 6/24/2014 12:53 am : link
still hasn't homered yet. GCL has played one week less and already has about 10 homers.
...  
Dunedin81 : 6/24/2014 4:47 pm : link
Jim Callis ‏@jimcallisMLB 2m

12th-rder Chris Gittens signs w/@Yankees for $125k ($25k counts vs pool). Grayson County (TX) CC 1B w/promising bat. @MLBDraft
He had already  
Phil in LA : 6/24/2014 5:17 pm : link
played in the GCL.
Yeah the bonus was the noteworthy thing...  
Dunedin81 : 6/24/2014 5:17 pm : link
Not really surprising, he had some leverage.
I think that's the same bonus  
Phil in LA : 6/24/2014 5:48 pm : link
Coleman got last year, and wasn't he also a 12th rounder?
Coleman got $150 as an 11th rounder...  
Dunedin81 : 6/24/2014 7:47 pm : link
Very close.
Payton signed for $45...  
Dunedin81 : 6/24/2014 7:55 pm : link
Apparently about a $133K savings.
this yankee team is so hard to watch  
sinctybldh : 6/24/2014 8:14 pm : link
between last year and this year i have had my fill of ineptness.
Connor Spencer..  
Dunedin81 : 6/24/2014 8:21 pm : link
Signs for $157. Not sure if that's just near slot or all of it.
u hear anything  
sinctybldh : 6/24/2014 8:30 pm : link
on cave?
oh btw  
sinctybldh : 6/24/2014 8:32 pm : link
i am very happy they got gittens done. he seems like he has a very high ceiling.
No but it doesn't seem likely..  
Dunedin81 : 6/24/2014 8:34 pm : link
Slot on Spencer, slightly over on Gittens. Even if Conde signs for peanuts we are barely there.
Jeter  
MookGiants : 6/24/2014 8:38 pm : link
is a horror show defensively
Palladino  
Phil in LA : 6/24/2014 9:26 pm : link
was great tonight.
That's a fucking gem, you're not kidding...  
Dunedin81 : 6/24/2014 10:15 pm : link
6 IP 3 H 0 R 2 BB 8 Ks. If he can repeat his mechanics and smooth things out he is a very good prospect. Curious where he is sitting with velocity.
Fowler  
Phil in LA : 6/24/2014 10:18 pm : link
homered again.
Sanchez  
sinctybldh : 6/24/2014 10:19 pm : link
hit his 9th
Fowler is to 2014...  
Dunedin81 : 6/24/2014 10:23 pm : link
what Bird and Cave were to my 2013. Really making a name for himself.
Katoh is over the  
Phil in LA : 6/24/2014 10:35 pm : link
Mendoza line!
Rookie Davis also dealing tonight...  
Dunedin81 : 6/24/2014 10:39 pm : link
he needed a solid start. Two out of his last three have been quite good, he is too talented to have the sort of season numbers he is showing.
...  
Dunedin81 : 6/24/2014 11:18 pm : link
Jim Callis @jimcallisMLB · 3h

Pair of @MLBDraft & @NCAACWS signings for @Yankees, two fine college bats: Texas OF Mark Payton ($45k) & UC Irvine 1B Connor Spencer ($157k)
Rookie needed to  
Phil in LA : 6/25/2014 12:02 am : link
he was off since about the first week.
Just in case anyone was really worried about the Yanks draft spending  
rich in DC : 6/25/2014 11:32 am : link
So, what we know right now is that Lindgren, Montgomery, Foley and Spencer signed for exactly slot. All of the numbers below, except for the report on Payton come from the BA website

DeCarr signed for $1M, which was $414,900 over slot.

Holder signed for $170,000, which was $67,600 UNDER slot.

McFarland signed for $10,000, which was $127,600 UNDER slot.

Payton has reportedly signed for $45,000, which would be $133,300 UNDER slot.

That only leaves Conde in the top 10 rounds- and he can't sign until after the CWS is over.

The Yanks reportedly signed Gittens for $125,000- which is $25,000 over the $100,000 cap free number.

That means that the Yanks needed to find about $440,000 to break even on their slot pool.

When we add up Holder, McFarland and Payton's reported numbers, the Yanks saved about $328,600.

We do not know what they will sign Conte for. But right now, to break even, the Yanks need to fin about $111,400. That said, we also know that the pool rules allow teams to go over by up to 5% without suffering the loss of a draft pick. Since the Yanks' draft pool was about $3,202,300, 5% of that pool would be about $160,000.

Therefore, even if Conte signs for straight slot, the Yanks would still have about $48,000 to use to sign guys drafted after the top 10 rounds over the $100,000 limit without the loss of a draft pick.
Severino  
Phil in LA : 6/25/2014 1:30 pm : link
having a better second start in the FSL.
6 no hit innings  
Dunedin81 : 6/25/2014 2:29 pm : link
1 BB 6 k
They lifted him after 6  
Phil in LA : 6/25/2014 2:33 pm : link
because he'd never pitched into the 7th before...
Looks like Fowler  
Phil in LA : 6/25/2014 8:23 pm : link
left his game after a groundout... injury?
Conner Spencer and Jordan Foley to SI...  
Dunedin81 : 6/26/2014 3:05 pm : link
Not really surprising on either count.
Fowler was benched for dogging it to first on a grounder  
Phil in LA : 6/26/2014 8:53 pm : link
Clarkin is throwing a 1 hit shutout. Announcer jinxed him in the 5th.
Clarkin throws 6 shutout innings  
Phil in LA : 6/26/2014 9:00 pm : link
1 hit, 4BB (squeezed) 7K's. Struck out the side in the 6th.
The key for Clarkin  
Ash : 6/26/2014 9:45 pm : link
is to be able to have both the curveball and the change be plus pitches that he can throw consistently for strikes. If he can do that, he's going to be an amazing pitcher.
I was listening to it  
Phil in LA : 6/26/2014 10:24 pm : link
and the announcer was not identifying what he was throwing. I know two games ago, he had a bunch of curveball strikes called balls by the ump who was squeezing him. It's a sick pitch when he's throwing it with 2 strikes, but I don't know how often he was tonight.

Andujar had a grand slam, a walk and another hit, as well as a great play at third. He may be ready to have a big second half.
...  
Dunedin81 : 6/27/2014 12:21 am : link
Josh Norris ‏@jnorris427

Just got off the phone with a scout who called Luis Severino the best pitcher he’s seen all year. #Yankees
RE: I was listening to it  
Dunedin81 : 6/27/2014 12:24 am : link
In comment 11745708 Phil in LA said:
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and the announcer was not identifying what he was throwing. I know two games ago, he had a bunch of curveball strikes called balls by the ump who was squeezing him. It's a sick pitch when he's throwing it with 2 strikes, but I don't know how often he was tonight.

Andujar had a grand slam, a walk and another hit, as well as a great play at third. He may be ready to have a big second half.


Andujar has crushed in day games and struggled in night games. SSS, to be sure, but don't ignore the difficulty of adjusting to night games.
Another Chin start  
Dunedin81 : 6/27/2014 12:30 am : link
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Andrew Chin looked sharp on the mound. Chin gave up just two hits, allowed no earned runs, walked two and struck out two during his five innings of work.

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Greg from LI : 6/27/2014 12:33 am : link
In comment 11745938 Dunedin81 said:
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Josh Norris ‏@jnorris427

Just got off the phone with a scout who called Luis Severino the best pitcher he’s seen all year. #Yankees


Well that's certainly nice to hear
Take it for what it's worth...  
Dunedin81 : 6/27/2014 7:20 am : link
if his beat is mostly the Sally league that wouldn't be a huge compliment as he was considered by many to be the best pitcher in that league before his promotion.

A couple more notes:

Donnie Collins @RailRidersTT · 6h

Roller has hit seven homers with SWB. Would you believe he hasn't pulled one of them to right? Five to left. Two to dead center.

Also Nik Turley is back in Scranton, had an okay outing last night. 4.1 IP 5 H 3 R 3 ER 2 BB 5 K. He is off the 40-man now, but he would have been a likely call-up at some point this season. He doesn't have much AAA time but he is still a promotion possibility sometime this season, I would imagine, if he pitches well.
Sanchez heating up - .385/.429/.615 his last 10  
GIANTSr01 : 6/27/2014 10:21 am : link
and is hitting .317/.403/.476 in June after a horrid May.

Refsnyder has continued to rip the cover off the ball in SWB.
Hensley with another outing...  
Dunedin81 : 6/27/2014 3:29 pm : link
2.2 IP 2 H 0 R 2 BB 2 Ks. Probably building arm strength at this point.
Ayayay, don't like the yoyo bit...  
Dunedin81 : 6/27/2014 6:20 pm : link
Dan Pfeiffer ‏@danpfeiffer74 5m

Bryan Mitchell back with the Thunder. Aaron Dott to the TIL. Also, Cesar Cabral activated from DL. Carmarena sent to Tampa
That's disappointing  
Phil in LA : 6/27/2014 6:26 pm : link
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This is pretty exciting stuff.  
Ash : 6/27/2014 6:30 pm : link
As Sanchez and Refsnyder play well at the higher levels, we could finally get some above replacement level position players from our system. That's key. We don't need to produce Mike Trout. But if we could produce a couple of solid ballplayers it'd really help. Our team is just too top heavy at the moment.
Ash  
Phil in LA : 6/27/2014 6:32 pm : link
And they are on the way, the problem is front office and ownership patience.
I wasn't ecstatic about the  
Ash : 6/27/2014 6:38 pm : link
McCann signing when it happened and I'm less so now.
RE: I wasn't ecstatic about the  
Dunedin81 : 6/27/2014 6:44 pm : link
In comment 11746676 Ash said:
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McCann signing when it happened and I'm less so now.


I was in favor of it at the time, it seemed pretty obvious, but so far it has not looked like a good fit.
It was the length  
Ash : 6/27/2014 6:47 pm : link
that bothered me. McCann's better than he's shown, but given his salary, he's supposed to be an All-Star.
I was against the McCann signing when it happened  
Phil in LA : 6/27/2014 6:50 pm : link
wanted just Choo and keep two first round picks.
Jose Mesa Jr made his organizational debut yesterday for GCL...  
Dunedin81 : 6/27/2014 7:48 pm : link
guess he had some sort of injury last year (TJS?) but he is back pitching. Scoreless inning.

Also Fowler back in the lineup after a one-day vacation for not legging out a grounder or something like that.
Four Yankees made the BA prospect hot sheet...  
Dunedin81 : 6/27/2014 10:39 pm : link
that happens about never. Throw in the near-no hitter from Shane Greene and it's a pretty nice night down on the farm.
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I think we  
Ash : 6/27/2014 10:47 pm : link
see Refsnyder make the team next spring training. Hopefully he can get his defense up to average in the mean time.

I think we'll see Refsnyder  
Phil in LA : 6/27/2014 10:50 pm : link
in the Bronx in the next week or two.
Is his defense really that bad?  
Ash : 6/27/2014 10:55 pm : link
I mean his bat looks like it's going to be above average for 2b. He supposedly has plus makeup too.
It's not like Roberts has been a Gold Glove out there this year  
Greg from LI : 6/27/2014 11:01 pm : link
You can't tell me Refsnyder can't at least be no worse than the guy they're running out there now.
We won pennants  
Phil in LA : 6/28/2014 12:55 am : link
with Soriano playing second.
He works hard...  
Dunedin81 : 6/28/2014 7:36 am : link
he is relatively agile. The pivot will suffer for awhile but the errors should diminish in time.
Lindgren and DeCarr each debuted today in GCL  
Dunedin81 : 6/28/2014 11:05 am : link
...
RE: We won pennants  
Ash : 6/28/2014 11:15 am : link
In comment 11746922 Phil in LA said:
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with Soriano playing second.


Yea but Soriano was also a 40-40 guy. I'd be ecstatic if Refsnyder could become a guy who hit's 15-20 homers with a .280/.350/.400 slash, that is if he could turn out be a Dan Murphy level player.
And he was about 50-50  
Phil in LA : 6/28/2014 11:17 am : link
on being able to turn a double play. Horrible defender. Refsnyder is not as bad. Not as powerful a hitter, but he'll make less outs and keep rounding into form defensively.
Gabe Encinas and Jonathan Holder pitched in the same game...  
Dunedin81 : 6/28/2014 11:26 am : link
Holder got shelled (4 runs in 1.1 innings) but DeCarr allowed a hit and a walk in a scoreless inning, Lindgren two hits in a scoreless inning but with two K's.
Mateo has 3 SBs...  
Dunedin81 : 6/28/2014 11:58 am : link
that's 9 on the season. Considering he has only been on 1st base a dozen times or so (because he's had a number of XBH) that is pretty ridiculous. Not quite Billy Hamilton but the kid has major wheels.
Encinas had a rough outing  
Phil in LA : 6/28/2014 1:02 pm : link
but, he needs the work.
Lindgren to CHarleston  
Dunedin81 : 6/28/2014 4:10 pm : link
...
RE: Lindgren to CHarleston  
section125 : 6/28/2014 4:12 pm : link
In comment 11747354 Dunedin81 said:
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Already?
He had a tune-up at GCL...  
Dunedin81 : 6/28/2014 4:14 pm : link
if anything Charleston is conservative, he dominated the SEC, the second-best conference in college baseball (after the ACC of course).
Vandy  
section125 : 6/28/2014 4:17 pm : link
just sayin'......
I tried to congratulate a Vanderbilt grad...  
Dunedin81 : 6/28/2014 4:24 pm : link
but I didn't have occasion to stop at Jiffy Lube.
RE: I tried to congratulate a Vanderbilt grad...  
section125 : 6/28/2014 4:29 pm : link
In comment 11747380 Dunedin81 said:
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but I didn't have occasion to stop at Jiffy Lube.


..hahaha
SI finally homered tonight!  
Phil in LA : 6/28/2014 10:14 pm : link
It was Breen, then Bubba!
I'm pretty sure they had homered...  
Dunedin81 : 6/28/2014 10:21 pm : link
just because it was Bubba's 2nd.
Then I must have missed it during  
Phil in LA : 6/28/2014 10:26 pm : link
one of the other drafts.
Caleb Smith with a nice rebound outing...  
Dunedin81 : 6/28/2014 10:31 pm : link
had been shaky for awhile, today 3.2 IP, 1 H, zeroes, 5 K.
Also a great outing for DePaula...  
Dunedin81 : 6/28/2014 10:42 pm : link
didn't start because Sabathia got the first two innings. 5.2 IP 4 H 0 R 1 BB 4 Ks. That's two shutout outings in a row. More than half the earned runs he has surrendered this season came in three of his 16 outings.
Cave and Bird both out of the lineup...  
Dunedin81 : 6/29/2014 1:40 pm : link
probably just an off day, but a promotion for Cave at least wouldn't surprise me.
That's weird  
Phil in LA : 6/29/2014 1:41 pm : link
that they are out of the lineup.
Though  
Phil in LA : 6/29/2014 1:46 pm : link
Bichette did get the night off last night. They're playing a bunch of the org guys today in Tampa.
Judge just  
Phil in LA : 6/29/2014 2:36 pm : link
hit his first high A homer.
Dylan Barrow has a 3.75 ERA in Northwoods...  
Dunedin81 : 6/29/2014 3:30 pm : link
29:14 K:BB in 26.1 IP.
A couple other notes I posted to PP...  
Dunedin81 : 6/29/2014 3:44 pm : link
David Graybill has a 6.75 ERA in 9.1 IP and a 7:5 K:BB for Santa Barbara in the CCL. He is also hitting .306.

Also Porter Clayton will either sign or transfer to a D II school in Utah, according to Oregon baseball.
Andujar his 7th...  
Dunedin81 : 6/29/2014 5:40 pm : link
figures, it's almost a day game for him.
Palladino  
Phil in LA : 6/29/2014 7:01 pm : link
is looking great again.
Took a two hit shutout into the sixth...  
Dunedin81 : 6/29/2014 8:06 pm : link
looks like his defense deserted him. 4 hits in the inning, 4 runs (1 earned), 0 BBs though and 7 Ks.
32nd rounder Jordan Ramsey...  
Dunedin81 : 6/30/2014 11:25 am : link
will return to UNC-W. Would have been a decent get but not the end of the world.
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Dunedin81 : 6/30/2014 11:53 am : link
Josh Norris ‏@jnorris427 10m

I’m sure it’s out there already, but the NYPL transactions board shows Manolo Reyes has been bumped to the GCL and Jonathan Holder is at SI.
Shitty scouting report on Andury Acevedo...  
Dunedin81 : 6/30/2014 12:02 pm : link
he does hit 99 MPH though.
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haha  
BeerFridge : 6/30/2014 12:05 pm : link
"command is virtually non existent"

sounds like this guy.

He's pitching in rookie ball...  
Dunedin81 : 6/30/2014 12:06 pm : link
"he'll never harness his command for a consistent role" Really going out on a limb there.
Angel Aguilar with his 3rd HR...  
Dunedin81 : 6/30/2014 1:39 pm : link
didn't realize he even had a rep as a power guy.
7/2 preview...  
Dunedin81 : 6/30/2014 2:39 pm : link
I believe it is free.
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RE: 7/2 preview...  
yatqb : 6/30/2014 3:28 pm : link
In comment 11749337 Dunedin81 said:
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Looks like we've lost out on a few guys we were hoping to get, like Rondon. Too bad.
We were never favorites for Rondon...  
Dunedin81 : 6/30/2014 3:54 pm : link
a few of the "second wave" guys have gone elsewhere though as teams reacted to news of our spending binge.
damn  
sinctybldh : 6/30/2014 3:55 pm : link
he has emery projected to go to the padres now? that sucks.
He freely admits...  
Dunedin81 : 6/30/2014 3:56 pm : link
that some of these are pure supposition.
...  
Dunedin81 : 6/30/2014 4:32 pm : link
Tampa Yankees ‏@TampaYankees 13m

Congratulation to RHP @LuisSeverino94 - Named @FloridaStateLg Pitcher of the Week! http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140630&content_id=82384222&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_t587&sid=t587 …
Sin  
Dunedin81 : 7/1/2014 11:08 am : link
Badler thinks Emery will sign with the Yanks, so you may get your wish.
Also Cash on Refsnyder...  
Dunedin81 : 7/1/2014 11:15 am : link
rising "like a meteor"
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FWIW...  
Dunedin81 : 7/1/2014 11:40 am : link
MLB.com folks (including Jim Callis) have Yankees signees ranked 1, 2 & 5.
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Here's something weird  
Phil in LA : 7/1/2014 12:41 pm : link
last week, Severino pitched one day, then Clarkin the next. This week Clarkin pitches today, but Severino hasn't pitched for Tampa yet, and Camarena is going tonight.
RE: Here's something weird  
BeerFridge : 7/1/2014 12:43 pm : link
In comment 11750806 Phil in LA said:
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last week, Severino pitched one day, then Clarkin the next. This week Clarkin pitches today, but Severino hasn't pitched for Tampa yet, and Camarena is going tonight.


Could they be lining him up for Futures Game?
7/2 preview from Minor League Ball...  
Dunedin81 : 7/1/2014 1:18 pm : link
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RE: RE: Here's something weird  
Dunedin81 : 7/1/2014 1:21 pm : link
In comment 11750815 BeerFridge said:
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In comment 11750806 Phil in LA said:


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last week, Severino pitched one day, then Clarkin the next. This week Clarkin pitches today, but Severino hasn't pitched for Tampa yet, and Camarena is going tonight.



Could they be lining him up for Futures Game?


Also keep in mind that he is at 78.1 IP this year, while Clarkin is at 52.2 plus EXST. Camarena's 112 from last year is probably a reasonable expectation of where they'd like those two to be at the end of the year, maybe 120 at most. So if they can cut a start to get Severino in line for the Futures Game it makes sense.
Mateo 2/5 with 2 2Bs...  
Dunedin81 : 7/1/2014 1:34 pm : link
and, predictably, he stole 3rd (10th SB of the season).
Jim Miller called up...  
Dunedin81 : 7/1/2014 3:43 pm : link
presumably Ramirez down.
That's a bit rich, but always nice to shoot for the moon...  
Dunedin81 : 7/1/2014 3:51 pm : link
Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 7m

scouts who have seen yanks' rhp prospect luis severino love him. 96-97 mph, improving change. "a young pedro" said 1
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/1/2014 4:07 pm : link
New York Yankees ‏@Yankees 6m

#Yankees sign RHP Jim Miller to Major League contract; option RHP Jose Ramirez to Triple-A; transfer LHP CC Sabathia to 60-day DL.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/1/2014 4:41 pm : link
Nick Flammia ‏@TYRadioGuy 5m

Former @USFBaseball standout Chad Taylor promoted to Low-A @ChasRiverDogs. 1 SV & 13 Ks in 7.2 IP w/ Staten Island. #Yankees #BullsInThePros
wonder how long they wait before pulling the trigger on Refsnyder  
Greg from LI : 7/1/2014 4:43 pm : link
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i just hope the yankees  
sinctybldh : 7/1/2014 5:16 pm : link
don't trade severino. after them dealing montero i now know no prospect is untouchable.
Sin  
Dunedin81 : 7/1/2014 5:20 pm : link
Not sure if you saw above but Badler is saying the Yanks are favorites for Emery.
nice  
sinctybldh : 7/1/2014 5:21 pm : link
lets just cross our fingers that a couple of these kids develop into core players. yankees desperately need to develop some stars.
they sure are expected to sign a lot of middle infielders  
sinctybldh : 7/1/2014 5:22 pm : link
i am wondering what they will do with all of them. they already seem to have a couple good ones in the GCL.
It's the new catcher...`  
Dunedin81 : 7/1/2014 5:24 pm : link
overemphasis with the hope that they'll get quality MLB starters and/or good trade bait sooner or later. I'm sure they will, a year or so after they sign someone to a five year deal.
No problem with loading up with middle infields  
Greg from LI : 7/1/2014 5:24 pm : link
They can migrate to the corners if they can hit but can't handle the positions.
most teenagers who can play  
Phil in LA : 7/1/2014 6:37 pm : link
start out as shortstops. Few stay there.
Danny Camarena  
Phil in LA : 7/1/2014 11:13 pm : link
sure can pitch.
what has happened to tyler austin?  
sinctybldh : 7/1/2014 11:18 pm : link
thought this guy was going to be core and he has been a big disappointment to this point.
Hand and wrist injuries  
Phil in LA : 7/1/2014 11:26 pm : link
like Nick Johnson back in the day, Will probably still come around, but is no longer age precocious.
The Tyler Austin  
Ash : 7/1/2014 11:32 pm : link
story saddens me. He was a prospect who I thought had a real shot at becoming a quality regular.
Great kid  
Phil in LA : 7/1/2014 11:40 pm : link
too.
:(  
Ash : 7/1/2014 11:41 pm : link
Well I hope he can get healthy enough to carve out a platoon career in the majors. Smart kid like that can take a 2 million dollar contract and parlay it into a lifetime of financial security.
If he gets healthy he can still be a regular  
Phil in LA : 7/1/2014 11:58 pm : link
but Aaron Judge is going to blow by him for the RF job.
Austin isn't done...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 7:05 am : link
making solid contact, still looks comfortable at the plate.

Mason Williams on the other hand had a stretch of decent results where he still didn't look that comfortable and has gone right back to suck mode.
on the bright side  
GIANTSr01 : 7/2/2014 8:28 am : link
Bird: 3-6 last night, .394/.488/.485 his last 10 (needs the bump to Trenton)

DBJ hasn't shown the power to be a top prospect, but he's at least re-established himself as a decent prospect. Already more 2Bs than all of 2013.

Judge: 2-3 with 2B, HR, 2BB last night. .294/.467/.647 his last 10 in Tampa.

As Phil mentioned, Camarena with another nice start: 6 IP 6 H 1 R (0 ER) 1 BB 1 K

Banuelos returned from the DL (blisters I think) but got lit up.

Former top pitching prospect Heredia had another great outing in relief of Banuelos: 5.2 IP 1 H 1 BB 5 K. Good numbers on the season in Trenton: 48 IP 43 H 9 BB 51 K 2.81 ERA. Looks like they are stretching him back out as a starter.

O'Neill: 4-6 with 2 2B, 1 SB. Hit .278/.358/.433 in June after struggling early in the year. And he's 22 for 25 on SB attempts.

Andujar starting to show his raw talent: .387/.486/.581 over his last 10. Hopefully that means he's adjusting to the night games.

Katoh continues to heat up: 1-5 with a HR last night. .389/.421/.556 his last 10

And CC pitches for Trenton today
Yeah definitely some good news on the farm...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 8:32 am : link
on the whole it has been a good year, with some obvious injury exceptions (Heathcott, Campos, increasingly Jagielo).
RE: Yeah definitely some good news on the farm...  
GIANTSr01 : 7/2/2014 8:54 am : link
In comment 11752273 Dunedin81 said:
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on the whole it has been a good year, with some obvious injury exceptions (Heathcott, Campos, increasingly Jagielo).


Yeah, unfortunately the disappointments have mostly been at the Trenton level (Refsnyder excluded). Don't know if it's guys being overrated/overhyped at the lower levels, poor coaching at the Trenton level, ballpark depressing their numbers or something else but hopefully it changes. Especially since Trenton's likely to get another talent infusion in the next few weeks (I imagine at least Cave/Bird should see promos).

Yanks need big 2nd halves from Sanchez/O'Brien. Even though he's yet to light up Trenton, if Murphy wasn't in SWB I'd consider promoting Sanchez and seeing what he can do there in the 2nd half.
When should we start hearing about the IFA signings?  
TheMick7 : 7/2/2014 8:55 am : link
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Judge sure is looking like a guy who's going to move quickly  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2014 9:09 am : link
Hit the ground running in Tampa. Could he see Trenton before the end of the year? His plate discipline has been a great surprise, as he was billed as a bit of a hacker.
Plays a good RF  
Phil in LA : 7/2/2014 9:31 am : link
too. I don't know if they'll promote him again. Meanwhile, Jags has been gone for nearly 2 months.
Is there a place to go  
sinctybldh : 7/2/2014 9:36 am : link
to see what IFA players the yankees signed?
doesn't seem like they're MO  
GIANTSr01 : 7/2/2014 9:41 am : link
to promote Judge again this year. They seem much more deliberate in the promos (i.e. Bird playing ALL of last year in CSC).

My guess is Bird/Cave see promos to Trenton shortly. And if Judge finishes the year strong he starts 2015 in Trenton.
also  
GIANTSr01 : 7/2/2014 9:45 am : link
if Cave gets the promo, the Trenton outfield will be packed with Mason Williams, Austin, Gamel and Cave.

Duned, where has O'Brien been starting? I saw he played 1B the other day. Hopefully that's not keeping Bird down.
it may not be their MO  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2014 9:47 am : link
But I wouldn't be surprised if the lousy performance and anemic lineup of the big club doesn't change that MO to a certain extent. Things are getting extremely ugly in the Bronx, and they need some young bats ASAP.
sin,  
Phil in LA : 7/2/2014 9:55 am : link
Twitter should start getting them, Scout should start getting them, and the Around the Minors section of NYYFans usually gets them pretty quickly. Great guy there named ICEBERG who finds them.
RE: it may not be their MO  
GIANTSr01 : 7/2/2014 9:56 am : link
In comment 11752389 Greg from LI said:
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But I wouldn't be surprised if the lousy performance and anemic lineup of the big club doesn't change that MO to a certain extent. Things are getting extremely ugly in the Bronx, and they need some young bats ASAP.


Does a month of Judge in Trenton really change that though? The moves to make in that regard are Refsnyder (hopefully right after the ASB) and getting Bird to AA yesterday. I think he can help a lot sooner than Judge.
Thee reason Bird stayed in the Sally all last year  
Phil in LA : 7/2/2014 9:57 am : link
was because he had missed the previous year. They might move Judge if he keeps crushing the FSL. Refsnyder will be a 3 level guy this year before too much longer.
no, I wasn't suggesting that Judge will help the big club this year  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2014 10:02 am : link
What I'm saying is that it should be crystal-clear at this point that the Yankees are going nowhere until they produce some quality bats - not just this season, but next season or two as well. The old free agent model isn't really going to work going forward because teams are locking young stars into long-term deals, so the market is generally pretty thin and elderly. With that being the case, it's incumbent upon the system to produce solid starters, guys who can at least be Brett Gardner types so the Yankees don't have to scrounge around for the likes of Kelly Johnson or Brian Roberts to fill in holes in the lineup.
I hope you're right Phil  
GIANTSr01 : 7/2/2014 10:02 am : link
though I still see a logjam in the Trenton OF.

And Judge has been "cold" compared to the 2-3 week stretch Refsnyder had before his SWB promo and the last 2+ plus weeks he's had.

Though, like Refsnyder, Judge is a college guy and they do seem more aggressive with them overall.
And with that being the case....  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2014 10:03 am : link
I don't think the team's fortunes will substantially change until guys like Refsnyder and Judge and Jagielo become regulars.
RE: no, I wasn't suggesting that Judge will help the big club this year  
GIANTSr01 : 7/2/2014 10:05 am : link
In comment 11752419 Greg from LI said:
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What I'm saying is that it should be crystal-clear at this point that the Yankees are going nowhere until they produce some quality bats - not just this season, but next season or two as well. The old free agent model isn't really going to work going forward because teams are locking young stars into long-term deals, so the market is generally pretty thin and elderly. With that being the case, it's incumbent upon the system to produce solid starters, guys who can at least be Brett Gardner types so the Yankees don't have to scrounge around for the likes of Kelly Johnson or Brian Roberts to fill in holes in the lineup.


Fair enough, and I agree with that approach.

Judge seems like 2016 would be a best case for him in the Bronx. Bird on the other hand, I could see forcing his way as soon as the middle of 2015. Though maybe I've just drank too much of the Dunedin koolaid on him! And Refsnyder should be up now.
RE: no, I wasn't suggesting that Judge will help the big club this year  
section125 : 7/2/2014 10:06 am : link
In comment 11752419 Greg from LI said:
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.... With that being the case, it's incumbent upon the system to produce solid starters, guys who can at least be Brett Gardner types so the Yankees don't have to scrounge around for the likes of Kelly Johnson or Brian Roberts to fill in holes in the lineup.


I was just thinking that Gardner may be the best, most consistent player on this team.
he is the best all-around player right now  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2014 10:08 am : link
And, not to knock him, but if he's your best position player then you won't be very good.
RE: he is the best all-around player right now  
section125 : 7/2/2014 10:13 am : link
In comment 11752438 Greg from LI said:
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And, not to knock him, but if he's your best position player then you won't be very good.


It shows....
yep  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2014 10:16 am : link
I've been avoiding game threads like the plague lately because I have no desire to rehash how bad they are right now, but unless something drastic happens like a major trade, I don't see how this team doesn't finish below .500.
RE: yep  
section125 : 7/2/2014 10:22 am : link
In comment 11752461 Greg from LI said:
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I've been avoiding game threads like the plague lately because I have no desire to rehash how bad they are right now, but unless something drastic happens like a major trade, I don't see how this team doesn't finish below .500.


Right now if Gardner, Jeter and Ellsbury don't get it done, the game is a shut out. You simply cannot have the 4-5-6 hitters batting .225. Occasionally Solarte and Ichiro chip in so basically 8-9-1-2-3 have been caring the offense.
its not just the 4-5-6 either  
MookGiants : 7/2/2014 10:23 am : link
Jeter and Ellsbury haven't been terrible, but getting zero power from your 2nd and 3rd hitters is less than ideal. The lineup is a mess from 2-9
Yanks sign 16 yr old Dominican OF Frederick Cuevas for $300,000  
TheMick7 : 7/2/2014 10:23 am : link
-Ben Badler
First IFA is  
Phil in LA : 7/2/2014 10:24 am : link
OF Frederick Cuevas 300K.
you're being awfully kind to include Captain Doubleplay in there  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2014 10:27 am : link
He's been terrible too
RE: its not just the 4-5-6 either  
section125 : 7/2/2014 10:32 am : link
In comment 11752481 MookGiants said:
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Jeter and Ellsbury haven't been terrible, but getting zero power from your 2nd and 3rd hitters is less than ideal. The lineup is a mess from 2-9


Yes the line up is a mess. I agree with the lack of power at #3, but not so much at #2. Ellsbury should be the #1 or #2 and Gardner at the other spot, but then there is no one to drive them in anyway.
It seems Jeter is actually starting to get his swing back, but maybe it is wishful thinking.
RE: you're being awfully kind to include Captain Doubleplay in there  
section125 : 7/2/2014 10:34 am : link
In comment 11752490 Greg from LI said:
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He's been terrible too


Eh, maybe. Not nearly as bad as the others and I think he's getting better. He's consistent in his DPs no doubt, but that is nothing new. At least he's up to .270.
it's an utterly empy .270  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2014 10:37 am : link
weak OBP, no power
RE: it's an utterly empy .270  
section125 : 7/2/2014 10:46 am : link
In comment 11752522 Greg from LI said:
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weak OBP, no power


Yep he is down .050 OBP and .100 Slugging against his career, true, but he's had a few deeper drives lately.

they are just a bad BB team right now.
Here's a blurb on our first signing...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 11:23 am : link
OF Frederick Cuevas.
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Venezuelan SS Diego Castillo...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 11:31 am : link
the 24th prospect according to BA
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$750K on Castillo  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 11:31 am : link
...
Castillo was #16  
Phil in LA : 7/2/2014 11:39 am : link
on some other list.
The first of the big ones...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 12:52 pm : link
Retweeted by Draft 2 Dynasty
Max Wildstein ⚾️ ‏@MaxWildstein 10m

#Yankees sign SS Dermis Garcia for $3.2 million, per @dSoldevila. First reported by @RobertMurrayMLB.
Yanks sign Nelson Gomez 3B #2 on MLB list  
TheMick7 : 7/2/2014 1:44 pm : link
for 2.25 mill
Many more names to  
Phil in LA : 7/2/2014 2:34 pm : link
come... guess they're not doing a press release.
BTW Jagielo played for GCL...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 2:36 pm : link
and hit a HR.

DeCarr pitched two scoreless, Hensley pitched three scoreless, and Domingo Acevedo had a very interesting line, 3.2 IP 6 H 4 R 3 ER 1 BB 8 Ks.
They don't want to give Bud a heart attack on his way out the door!  
TheMick7 : 7/2/2014 2:37 pm : link
.
Domingo  
Phil in LA : 7/2/2014 2:47 pm : link
has a big upside and I'd be more comfortable with the idea of him hitting it if I felt fastball control was being properly taught with the Yanks. Not sure these days.
BTW the Sox also blew through their allotment...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 3:17 pm : link
and will face the same penalty the Yankees do (although they will pay less in financial penalties, they will have the same prohibitions the next two years).
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 3:47 pm : link
Jesse Sanchez ‏@JesseSanchezMLB 32m

Source: #Yankees have signed SS Wilkerman Garcia to $1.35M deal. He’s ranked #14 on @mlb Top 30 Int’l Prospects list http://atmlb.com/1irBBzQ
BA blurb on Wilkerman Garcia  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 5:08 pm : link
...
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Blurb on Nelson Gomez  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 5:11 pm : link
Says maybe a 1B down the line but some of the best raw power in the class.
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Wilkerman looked really natural at SS  
Phil in LA : 7/2/2014 6:21 pm : link
on the tape I saw a few weeks ago.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 6:31 pm : link
Ben Badler ‏@BenBadler 4m

Yankees Sign No. 2 International Prospect Juan De Leon http://bit.ly/1mLgSCe
Blurb on De Leon  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 6:33 pm : link
...
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I like that signing  
sinctybldh : 7/2/2014 6:37 pm : link
the most out of all of them. Glad they got him done.
Venezuelan Catcher  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 6:37 pm : link
Ben Badler ‏@BenBadler 5m

Another big-ticket player to the Yankees, who signed No. 16 international prospect Miguel Flames: http://bit.ly/1rkPq5O
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God I hope John Sterling is around still  
sinctybldh : 7/2/2014 6:39 pm : link
when Miguel Flames makes it to the majors. lol
I like De Leon's rep...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 6:41 pm : link
for "best bat speed in the class"
my fingers are crossed  
sinctybldh : 7/2/2014 6:43 pm : link
that DeLeon will develop into an Oscar tavaras or Gregory Polanco type of prospect.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 6:46 pm : link
Ben Badler ‏@BenBadler 4m

Yankees Sign Korean SS Hyo-Joon Park, No. 18 International Prospect. Scouting report at Baseball America:
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hoping to hear about  
sinctybldh : 7/2/2014 6:48 pm : link
emery soon. next to deleon and gomez he is the other one i am really excited about.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 6:50 pm : link
Ben Badler ‏@BenBadler 4m

Park can play once approved. 16-year-olds wait until 2015 RT @AndyInSunnyDB Could he play right away, or does he have to wait until 2015?
They should get Park  
sinctybldh : 7/2/2014 6:50 pm : link
down to GCL league right away. He is already 19 years old.
typo  
sinctybldh : 7/2/2014 6:50 pm : link
18 years old rather.
Yanks signing  
sinctybldh : 7/2/2014 7:16 pm : link
The Yankees have signed Venezuelan righthander Servando Hernandez for $200,000. Hernandez, 16, has a big, strong frame at 6-foot-2, 210 pounds and touches 90-91 mph. He shows feel for his changeup and is mostly a fastball/changeup pitcher with the curveball his No. 3 pitch. Hernandez trained with Carlos Rios.
I wonder if that's the Carlos Rios  
Phil in LA : 7/2/2014 7:29 pm : link
who used to work for the Yankees then sued them down in the DR and won.
All the 16 year olds are already at the DR Academy  
Phil in LA : 7/2/2014 7:30 pm : link
and they'll play games for the rest of the summer there.
Other then more walks then I care to see  
sinctybldh : 7/2/2014 7:35 pm : link
Shane Greene pitched a great game today. I hope he becomes a factor sooner then later for the Yankees.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 7:43 pm : link
Kiley McDaniel ‏@kileymcd 1m

Think I'm the first on this one: confirmed Yankees signed DR OF Antonio Arias. Rumored to be around $1 million, but haven't confirmed the $.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 7:44 pm : link
Kiley McDaniel ‏@kileymcd 58s

Another NYY signing I haven't seen confirmed elsewhere: VZ OF Jonathan Amundaray. Rumored for $1.5M. Video/Report:
BA has Arias at 28, Amanduray at 22...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 7:46 pm : link
MLB.com had them at 7 and 9.
i am luke warm on  
sinctybldh : 7/2/2014 7:50 pm : link
Jonathan Amundaray.

think he has a high ceiling but i also think he has more bust potential then most that we signed.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 7:52 pm : link
Kiley McDaniel ‏@kileymcd 1m

More unreported low $ NYY J2 signings: VZ OF Leobaldo Cabrera, VZ C Jason Lopez, DR OF Lisandro Blanco (age 17), DR IF Wander Hernandez (19)
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 7:58 pm : link
Kiley McDaniel ‏@kileymcd 23s

More low $ NYY guys: VZ OF Raymundo Moreno, DR OF Adolfo Morillo, VZ OF Pablo Olivares, DR C Bismar Nunez (19), DR LHP Luis Pache (20).
RE: i am luke warm on  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 8:00 pm : link
In comment 11753587 sinctybldh said:
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Jonathan Amundaray.

think he has a high ceiling but i also think he has more bust potential then most that we signed.


Polarizing guy. I have seen a Mondesi comp (mlb.com) and a notation that he may be the best Venezuelan in the draft and I heard the Yankees got so squeamish they were trying to find a way out.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 8:00 pm : link
Kiley McDaniel ‏@kileymcd 2m

Last two of NYY July 2nd barrage (in addition to those already reported): VZ SS Danienger Perez (17), VZ RHP Gilmael Troya (17).
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 8:05 pm : link
Kiley McDaniel ‏@kileymcd 56s

On top of that, 3B Dermis Garcia hasn't signed yet: supposed to be coming soon, for $3 million. So a quantity & quality carpet bombing.
nothing  
sinctybldh : 7/2/2014 8:05 pm : link
on emery yet, huh?
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 8:06 pm : link
Kiley McDaniel ‏@kileymcd 1m

Ah, yes and NYY is in play for Emery, who should get around $2 million. Massive upside/risk. RT @AndyInSunnyDB Anything on Bryan Emery yet?
Dermis has signed...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 8:07 pm : link
there's a picture of him on Twitter with his Mom, bonus of $3.2. Dunno why Kiley is late to the part on that.
yes  
sinctybldh : 7/2/2014 8:08 pm : link
Emery! This has been a fantastic day for us Yankee fans. At the very least gives us hope for the future.
Fowler hit his 6th HR...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 8:09 pm : link
a center fielder with an ISOP over .200. Small sample size, to be sure, but he looks really impressive so far.
Haven't signed Emery...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 8:10 pm : link
just still in the mix for him.
really  
MookGiants : 7/2/2014 8:11 pm : link
wish they didn't wait so long to do this but im glad they finally are. Should have done it for years
Mook  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 8:17 pm : link
The interesting thing is that teams like the Sox and the Rays felt obligated to top their pools to keep up, but they're doing it for a handful of top prospects while we're doing it for half the Top 20. Same consequences (our fines will be higher but the prohibition on $300K+ signings will be the same).
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 8:19 pm : link
Kiley McDaniel ‏@kileymcd 1m

NYY still could sign him, but were some rumors both sides moved on late MT @JornielMora_NYC I guess they not signing DR SS Chris Torres?
Today has been really exciting  
Tyrion : 7/2/2014 8:28 pm : link
I love pretty much everything about this. While I wish they did it earlier, now makes more sense than ever with the very real idea of the IFA draft.
BA has also confirmed  
Phil in LA : 7/2/2014 8:30 pm : link
Juan DeLeon.
eh must have missed it while I was out  
Phil in LA : 7/2/2014 8:32 pm : link
earlier. He's a good one.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 8:34 pm : link
Kiley McDaniel ‏@kileymcd 8m

To put a button on the Yankees stuff: signed 21 players today for about $12M, will likely sign a few more in coming weeks incl. one for $3M.
what button?  
sinctybldh : 7/2/2014 8:36 pm : link
where is emery?
I'm not going to re-argue this...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 8:37 pm : link
but my sense was that they thought it would be a lot worse (eg an international draft beginning with the next CBA, steeply progressive pooling from the outset) if they bought out the field during one or more of the pre-CBA 7/2 classes. They got hammered anyway and you certainly can't guess whether or not it would have been worse, or how much worse, had they done that, but I understand the logic. Maybe the last un-pooled year after the CBA, but at this point it's behind us. Doing it this year makes sense if it's an above average class, which they seem to think it is.
Emery may not be announced today...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 8:40 pm : link
or for a couple days. They don't all announce today (some won't sign today because of birthdays).
Turley is on the mound for SWB...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 9:00 pm : link
interesting to see how he can do in the next few weeks, could put himself back into the convo considering how shitty Nuno has been.
Lindgren warming for Charleston...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 9:30 pm : link
should make his debut tonight.
RE: I'm not going to re-argue this...  
Tyrion : 7/2/2014 9:31 pm : link
In comment 11753645 Dunedin81 said:
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but my sense was that they thought it would be a lot worse (eg an international draft beginning with the next CBA, steeply progressive pooling from the outset) if they bought out the field during one or more of the pre-CBA 7/2 classes. They got hammered anyway and you certainly can't guess whether or not it would have been worse, or how much worse, had they done that, but I understand the logic. Maybe the last un-pooled year after the CBA, but at this point it's behind us. Doing it this year makes sense if it's an above average class, which they seem to think it is.


Sorry, I didn't mean to rehash any old arguments or even disagree. I might have worded my post a little poorly, but I'm not faulting the Yankees for not doing this sooner. I'm just really excited they are doing it now.
Wasn't really directed at you...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 9:34 pm : link
Mook and I have disagree vehemently on this a few times and I like Mook so I'm not going to beat a dead horse.
The reason the Yanks are bad right now  
Phil in LA : 7/2/2014 9:37 pm : link
has everything to do with their not having days like this in the draft of FA back when they were allowed to spend like crazy. If they had been willing to give Mike Trout a guaranteed number that no one else would bother with, they could have had him or any of the draft guys they want. If someone blocked them out of spite they could just keep repeating it, unless the kid was bad in college. When they finally started getting a grip on this idea again, George died, and Hall came in with his penny wise and pound foolish budget shit.
Lindgren strikes out the side but scatters a HBP...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2014 10:07 pm : link
a double and a WP so a run scores anyway.
Zealous Wheeler got called up  
Phil in LA : 7/2/2014 11:20 pm : link
rather than any of the homegrowns.
Next deadline of consequence is 7/18...  
Dunedin81 : 7/3/2014 8:08 am : link
two Fridays from now is deadline day for signings. Conde seems likely to sign but probably for around slot (based on what Cogswell got - similarly situated middle infielders who aren't necessarily throwaway picks like some of the senior guys), my guess is we'd nab one or two of the D&F guys, maybe Chin and Dylan Barrow.
Here's a blurb on Dylan Barrow...  
Dunedin81 : 7/3/2014 8:25 am : link
Chin hasn't been having the best season on the Cape. He may get an offer but it probably won't be much of one.
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Chances of getting  
Phil in LA : 7/3/2014 11:17 am : link
Cave are "slim."
Joe Table with another scoreless inning  
Dunedin81 : 7/3/2014 1:40 pm : link
...
Jorge "Quck Twitch" Mesa  
Phil in LA : 7/3/2014 2:18 pm : link
has another 3 hit, 3 runs game so far and it's only in the 7th. And he doubled and stole his 11th base.
Ah  
Phil in LA : 7/3/2014 2:19 pm : link
I meant Quick Twitch Mateo!
Patrick Teale has an interview up with Rowland...  
Dunedin81 : 7/3/2014 4:15 pm : link
a lot of good stuff, he really liked Diego Castillo who was almost an afterthought behind Gomez and DeLeon and the Garcias. Worth the price of admission if you're interested in the minors.
holy shit, rowland said  
sinctybldh : 7/3/2014 4:24 pm : link
that dermis garcia's power is equal or better then miguel sano. That has me majorly excited.
Nice to hear Amunduray's  
sinctybldh : 7/3/2014 4:28 pm : link
plate discipline has improved every month. I am hoping he could get it to be above avg. I don't want to see another Soriano on this team ever again.
Also to echo a post I saw in the forum...  
Dunedin81 : 7/3/2014 4:32 pm : link
Michael O'Neill has turned things around in a big way. His K's since June 1 are 20/108 ABs (121 PAs) or in the 17% range, his BA over that span is just shy of .300 and his OBP is around .370. And on the year he is 22/25 on the basepaths and has 26 XBH, 7 of them HRs. He is becoming a prospect and a good one.
Love what he is saying about Flames  
sinctybldh : 7/3/2014 4:32 pm : link
best plate discipline (works deep counts) with raw power. Finally Yankees targeting players that grind out at bats. Nice to hear. Wonder if he can become what Montero should have been. Also, has a plus arm which is key for a catcher. He said he is a slightly lesser version of Gary Sanchez.
how is O'Neil's  
sinctybldh : 7/3/2014 4:33 pm : link
walks?
hmm the way this guy talks  
sinctybldh : 7/3/2014 4:34 pm : link
he is making me love every guy we signed. He said park could be a 5 tool shortstop with 15 home run power. I would sign up for that any day of the week!
Walk rate isn't great...  
Dunedin81 : 7/3/2014 4:35 pm : link
6 in that span (and 6 HBPs). Still, the body of work is promising.
RE: hmm the way this guy talks  
Dunedin81 : 7/3/2014 4:37 pm : link
In comment 11754732 sinctybldh said:
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he is making me love every guy we signed. He said park could be a 5 tool shortstop with 15 home run power. I would sign up for that any day of the week!


Hoping for the best. We don't need five Sanos but one would make a big difference going forward.
oh gtfo  
sinctybldh : 7/3/2014 4:40 pm : link
he calls diego castillo a latin alan trammell. bwahahaha. god this guy is just gushing over our signings from yesterday.
24 in 319 ABs in 2014  
Greg from LI : 7/3/2014 4:41 pm : link
Which is a decent improvement from 14 in 281 ABs last season.
it is killing me  
sinctybldh : 7/3/2014 4:42 pm : link
not knowing if we got emery or not. I hope we hear something soon.
sin,  
Phil in LA : 7/3/2014 4:46 pm : link
Donny played with Allen Trammel. Donny is also in the scouting hall of fame. Donny has also scouted the hell out of the player, so laugh all you want, but he knows what's he's talking about.
I'm very excited about what we did yesterday...  
Dunedin81 : 7/3/2014 4:51 pm : link
but I also know that from a 7/2 class you're lucky if you end up with 3-4 All Stars. If we end up with 1 or 2 of them we will have hit a homerun. And let's hope we have the right development folks in mind to bring these guys along.
no i am not laughing at him  
sinctybldh : 7/3/2014 4:52 pm : link
i am laughing because of the riches of this class that we have. i am just amazed at the talent that we have accumulated.
RE: I'm very excited about what we did yesterday...  
Greg from LI : 7/3/2014 4:53 pm : link
In comment 11754761 Dunedin81 said:
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And let's hope we have the right development folks in mind to bring these guys along.


This is what depresses me. I think our scouting by and large is pretty good. We've had talented guys in the system. The track record of developing that talent, however, is abysmal.
It is...  
Dunedin81 : 7/3/2014 4:55 pm : link
they've made some changes though and I'm sure they'll make a few in the offseason, so that while the big guys (Newman in particular) are still in place a lot of the hands-on folks have either been switched out or supplemented. Doesn't mean the problem is fixed, just means if they fail we won't be able to blame the same people.
Greg  
Phil in LA : 7/3/2014 4:56 pm : link
The DSL development team is kicking ass, as you can see by what the DSL kids are doing in the GCL. It just needs to be grown out from there.
This lineup card excites me a lot more than the big league club...  
Dunedin81 : 7/3/2014 4:58 pm : link
Nick Flammia ‏@TYRadioGuy 4m

7/3 @TampaYankees v LKD Cave 8, Culver 6, Bird 3, Bichette 5, Judge 9, Gumbs 4, Snyder DH, Oh 7, Wilson 2, Severino 1. #Yankees.
They want Jake Cave  
Phil in LA : 7/3/2014 5:01 pm : link
to walk more, though he's not really running into anything he can't hit.
Dunedin  
dune69 : 7/3/2014 7:54 pm : link
It's raining like hell here in Lakeland. It's been raining most of the afternoon with heavy lightning. I had given thought to going to this game but as the day developed, I could see it's a washout. I saw several games last year but I have not this year and I like these kids. Need to get to a game.
Severino  
Phil in LA : 7/3/2014 8:14 pm : link
on extra rest walks the first batter. Then gets a pop up. Then a K, then a hit just over Gumbs and a 3 pitch K to end it.
Wish I had gone....  
dune69 : 7/3/2014 8:34 pm : link
did not think they would start this game. Field must drain well, I have a lake in my back yard.
7 pitch second  
Phil in LA : 7/3/2014 8:44 pm : link
2K's and a ground out in the 3rd. Severino in cruise control.
Peter O'Brien is playing C  
Phil in LA : 7/3/2014 8:47 pm : link
for Trenton tonight. Could be being showcased for a trade to an NL team.
7 pitch 5th for Severino  
Phil in LA : 7/3/2014 9:26 pm : link
has 7 K's through 5. 1 hit, and 2 BB's which were both 4 pitch BB's where he and the ump didn't seem to agree..

He just took something off his slider for a third strike. He's 20 and knows how to change speeds and shapes.
6 shutout innings  
Phil in LA : 7/3/2014 9:42 pm : link
2 hits, three walks.
Aaron Judge  
Phil in LA : 7/3/2014 10:00 pm : link
hit a three run jack to break up a 0-0 tie in the bottom of the 6th.
Good stuff  
Dunedin81 : 7/3/2014 10:33 pm : link
O'Neill hit a three run bomb too.
Bird just broke a 0-0 tie  
Phil in LA : 7/4/2014 7:54 pm : link
in the top of the 12th with a homer.
Hyu-Jun Park (or Park Hyu-Jun)  
Dunedin81 : 7/5/2014 9:25 am : link


Likely to be the first of the 7/2 signs to get into game action because he is older. Could conceivably join the GCL this season.
Mark Payton will start at Charleston...  
Dunedin81 : 7/5/2014 2:36 pm : link
He is a short OF who does nothing but get on base.
wow  
sinctybldh : 7/5/2014 2:44 pm : link
that is a very aggressive promotion.
not promotion  
sinctybldh : 7/5/2014 2:45 pm : link
but start to his career.
RE: not promotion  
section125 : 7/5/2014 2:59 pm : link
In comment 11756134 sinctybldh said:
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but start to his career.


Charleston is low A? Why wouldn't a very good college player not be able to play at A ball?
they normally always  
sinctybldh : 7/5/2014 3:06 pm : link
start at Staten Island. It is very rare for the Yankees to be this aggressive with a player.
They've been more aggressive  
Phil in LA : 7/5/2014 3:08 pm : link
all over this year.
Got another IFA  
Phil in LA : 7/5/2014 3:14 pm : link
and he's
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RE: they normally always  
section125 : 7/5/2014 3:21 pm : link
In comment 11756152 sinctybldh said:
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start at Staten Island. It is very rare for the Yankees to be this aggressive with a player.


Ok, just seems a waste of time to take a guy from Division 1 and place him with high schoolers. Maybe let him get acclimated to pro ball? But that is my ignorance.
RE: Got another IFA  
TheMick7 : 7/5/2014 5:04 pm : link
In comment 11756157 Phil in LA said:
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Phil, McDaniel had this 3 days ago (page9), Badler is just slow to the take!
Staten Island is actually where college kids start  
sinctybldh : 7/5/2014 5:25 pm : link
high school kids go to GCL.
Payton with a rocky debut...  
Dunedin81 : 7/5/2014 11:11 pm : link
0-4.

Lindgren with a scoreless inning with a K. Very curious to see how quickly he moves.
Dustin Fowler  
Phil in LA : 7/6/2014 12:49 am : link
had a triple and a homer. Andujar and Katoh continued their march toward respectability.
I was about to  
Semipro Lineman : 7/6/2014 1:58 pm : link
create a new thread for this but I figure the audience in this one would appreciate the irony better
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11181948/buck-showalter-baltimore-orioles-john-lackey-boston-red-sox-careful-ped-barbs - ( New Window )
Mixed feelings for Showalter...  
Dunedin81 : 7/6/2014 8:22 pm : link
on the one hand he's absolutely right. Past PED user in the midst of an unprecedented late-career renaissance, nothing to see here. On the other hand, you sign a guy who got busted for PEDs LAST YEAR and you understand why people might be a little upset.
Haha - Showalter  
section125 : 7/6/2014 8:34 pm : link
with the nice return. Wonder to whom he is referring?
Jonathan Holder started today...  
Dunedin81 : 7/6/2014 11:21 pm : link
He was drafted as a college closer but they apparently contemplated making him a starter and have followed through. Attenuated outing, just 3 IP (4 H, zeroes, 1 K), but likely the direction he is going.
hahahaha....anyone on the Sawx getting on a high horse about PEDs  
Greg from LI : 7/7/2014 12:25 am : link
Don't make me laugh!
Sox  
Phil in LA : 7/7/2014 12:41 am : link
Angels, Rangers and Indians were the worst of that period.
Supposedly the Yanks offer for Samardzija...  
Dunedin81 : 7/7/2014 6:23 am : link
included Sanchez but Cash balked when Theo asked for both Clarkin and Severino.
Also Jose Ramirez is apparently injured...  
Dunedin81 : 7/7/2014 6:51 am : link
left after just a dozen pitches last night, necessitating bringing in Dugas and Antoan Richardson to pitch.
Severino #33 on BA's mid season list...  
Dunedin81 : 7/7/2014 12:20 pm : link
Wow.
He should be higher  
Phil in LA : 7/7/2014 1:49 pm : link
than that. Dermis is now "official" and they signed 17 year old named Yashy or something. Law says we're up to 27 IFA's.
Sorry it's  
Phil in LA : 7/7/2014 1:52 pm : link
Yosty Vargas.
I guess Yossty  
Phil in LA : 7/7/2014 2:06 pm : link
is 19.
Once again, thank you guys for keeping this thread going  
Semipro Lineman : 7/7/2014 2:18 pm : link
Also, I know some fans in here where a little disappointed by some of Yankees mid-round selections which we wwere told was part of a plan. Now that we have seen more of the end results of that plan are you guys still disappointed or are you more comfortable with the direction choosen?
One of the interesting things about this approach  
Phil in LA : 7/7/2014 2:26 pm : link
is that by July 18 the Yanks will have, from the draft, signed about 30 players.

And they will also have signed about 30 IFA's.

The draft kids are older and cheaper than the IFA's and it will be interesting to see which group ultimately proves most productive for the Yanks.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/7/2014 4:37 pm : link
Tampa Yankees ‏@TampaYankees 13m

Congratulations to RHP @JaronLong who was just promoted to the Double-A @TrentonThunder. RHP Stefan Lopez was reactivated from Tampa's DL.


Not sure this is a permanent thing, as Dan Camarena (who has owned the FSL) was "promoted" for one start and came back. Long has more upstairs than he does in his arm, but he is interesting enough.
What now?  
Dunedin81 : 7/7/2014 4:37 pm : link
Charleston RiverDogs ‏@ChasRiverDogs 6m

ROSTER MOVES: RHP Cale Coshow & LHP Ian Clarkin placed on DL; LHP Evan Rutckyj activated from DL. #chs #chssports #Yankees
what's wrong  
sinctybldh : 7/7/2014 4:53 pm : link
with Clarkin?
Beltran is going to get checked out...  
Dunedin81 : 7/7/2014 4:56 pm : link
for swelling in his knee. When it rains it ----ing pours.
We need Beltran  
Phil in LA : 7/7/2014 5:07 pm : link
to go to the DL to get more than one of those AAA bats up.
i don't get why they called  
sinctybldh : 7/7/2014 5:08 pm : link
zelous wheeler up and girardi doesn't use him.
I wonder if this past off season  
sinctybldh : 7/7/2014 5:17 pm : link
is going to teach the front office how to go about things going forward.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/7/2014 6:47 pm : link
Donnie Collins ‏@RailRidersTT 5m

I was not at the game last night. But I was told by @Shane_Hennigan that Jose Ramirez pointed at upper arm when talking to trainer yesterday
RE: I was about to  
Kulish29 : 7/7/2014 7:05 pm : link
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create a new thread for this but I figure the audience in this one would appreciate the irony better http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11181948/buck-showalter-baltimore-orioles-john-lackey-boston-red-sox-careful-ped-barbs - ( New Window )


John Lackey is a joke. The team he won his first World Series with was FULL of roiders. Not to mention the fact he's a scumbag piece of shit dead beat.

Also, David Ortiz.
Are the two big names we were supposed to be in on  
yatqb : 7/7/2014 9:02 pm : link
still unsigned by anyone? Emery? Rondon already signed, right?
Rondon signed...  
Dunedin81 : 7/7/2014 9:07 pm : link
with the Rays. Lara is, I think, going to sign with the Brewers (IIRC), but they want to cobble together enough pool space to not get the full penalty. I think the Rays tried to go that route too, not sure how successful.

Emery hasn't signed, nor have Chris Torres (linked to the Yanks for awhile, they seemed to have cooled on each other) and Brayan Hernandez, #3 on BA's list.
Thanks, Russ.  
yatqb : 7/7/2014 9:08 pm : link
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June BA All-Prospect team...  
Dunedin81 : 7/8/2014 11:09 am : link
featuring three Yankees.
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Joran Montgomery gave up  
Phil in LA : 7/8/2014 12:06 pm : link
3 runs in 2/3 of an inning in his debut, which only lasted 2/3 of an inning for GCL2.
Cashman said  
sinctybldh : 7/8/2014 2:05 pm : link
if Refsnyder is called up it will be as an outfielder. I just wonder what that means as far as his future at second base?
He said if he's called up in the next few weeks...  
Dunedin81 : 7/8/2014 2:06 pm : link
He's still a 2B, I think what it tells you is that the team right now has more confidence in Brian Roberts than in the right field situation.
lol that is crazy  
sinctybldh : 7/8/2014 2:06 pm : link
ichiro is way better then brian roberts.
..  
Dunedin81 : 7/8/2014 4:04 pm : link
Charleston RiverDogs ‏@ChasRiverDogs 27m

ROSTER MOVE: RHP Gabe Encinas ('13 All-Star w/ #RiverDogs) reinstated from 60-day DL to take open spot on roster. #chs #chssports #Yankees
Good News  
sinctybldh : 7/8/2014 5:09 pm : link
Joe Girardi just announced that Shane Greene will start again on Saturday. He has been added to the rotation with Chase Whitley moving into the bullpen.
Even though the Rays traded for more cap room...  
Dunedin81 : 7/8/2014 5:25 pm : link
they will still face the max penalty on IFAs. Interesting point, they really just made the trades to save money (and in the grand scheme of things not that much). That's the difference between the Yankees and the Rays and teams like them, we can eat financial penalties no problem.
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Severino was charged with an unearned run in the first  
Phil in LA : 7/8/2014 8:28 pm : link
and has given up 4 hits, 2 walks and gotten 8 K's through 4.
Severino could be special...  
Dunedin81 : 7/8/2014 10:43 pm : link
nice night for the farm. Not in terms of success, but solid individual performances from consequential players. Caleb Smith with a nice outing, Jaron Long with a solid AA debut, O'Neill with his 9th HR and O'Brien with his 18th (and a 2B), Refsnyder 2-3, DBJ extended his hitting streak to 11 games and picked up his 42nd BB.
Also Mark Payton had a walk-off single...  
Dunedin81 : 7/8/2014 10:56 pm : link
I could be mistaken but I believe that's two walk-offs in four games for the 2014 draftee debuting in Low A.
Lindgren  
sinctybldh : 7/8/2014 11:02 pm : link
2 innings 0's across the board 3 k's. that is what i like to see!
It was Peyton's  
Phil in LA : 7/8/2014 11:11 pm : link
2nd one.
Farm should only be fore player D  
Phil in LA : 7/8/2014 11:12 pm : link
and though wins are fun, it was a good night for player D.
Jaron Long was impressive in his  
Phil in LA : 7/8/2014 11:13 pm : link
AA debut.
Sounds like the farm is  
section125 : 7/9/2014 7:51 am : link
getting more exciting than the big team.
RE: Sounds like the farm is  
Dunedin81 : 7/9/2014 8:00 am : link
In comment 11760206 section125 said:
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getting more exciting than the big team.


It has been a reasonably good year, some breakout performances (Judge and Severino, Refsnyder coming on as strong as he has) and a lot of just generally good news (Clarkin's debut, Mateo showing the tools he was advertised to have). Definitely some negatives too though, both year-ending injuries (Campos, Heathcott) but also long-term injuries that have sapped development time, like Avelino and Jagielo. Jagielo was supposed to move, but he won't get to Trenton this season at this rate. And Avelino hit well but may not have enough Low A at bats for them to be comfortable starting him at Tampa next year. Plus guys like Bird (to an extent) and Mitchell haven't had disastrous seasons but haven't necessarily taken the steps forward we hoped to see, at least not yet. Now Encinas is back at Charleston, he's another guy with front-line stuff. And Lail and Smith have been doing pretty well, so that's a rotation with a ton of talent. On the balance positive, definitely much more positive than last year, but not some sort of annus mirabilis like Boston had last year.
O'Brien looks like he's getting his groove back  
GIANTSr01 : 7/9/2014 8:02 am : link
He's hit safely in 7 of 8 games (5 multi-hit games) with 3 HRs, 2B, 3B. It would be huge if he can finish strong and start next season in SWB.

DBJ has already surpassed his doubles total from 2013 and has a respectable .367 OBP. On the down side, he still needs to improve his power significantly to play a corner OF spot.
RE: O'Brien looks like he's getting his groove back  
Dunedin81 : 7/9/2014 8:09 am : link
In comment 11760218 GIANTSr01 said:
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He's hit safely in 7 of 8 games (5 multi-hit games) with 3 HRs, 2B, 3B. It would be huge if he can finish strong and start next season in SWB.

DBJ has already surpassed his doubles total from 2013 and has a respectable .367 OBP. On the down side, he still needs to improve his power significantly to play a corner OF spot.


Agreed. But his hitting enough and getting on base enough to make it worth their while to keep trying is going to at least get him through another level. He looked dead in the water last year. Ironically Culver looked pretty good last year and has hit like shit this year. Mason Williams was hitting for awhile but that stopped, his flaws are still there. Plays great defense and steals a ton of bases (when he gets on base) but the swing is just too long and so far the adjustments haven't worked.
yea, I'm cautiously optimistic about DBJ  
GIANTSr01 : 7/9/2014 8:54 am : link
He's still young (20-21?) and if he can get to Trenton and hit like he has this season, then he could at least become a mediocre trade chip. Right now he probably profiles as a poor man's Alex Gordon (without the steals): 30 2Bs, 15 HRs, .350 OBP. That's valuable for a lot of teams.
Goodness...  
Dunedin81 : 7/9/2014 11:55 am : link
Josh Norris ‏@jnorris427 5m

As was pointed out to me last night, LHBs are hitting .065/.216/.065 against Luis Severino in Tampa. #Yankees
DBJ has power  
Phil in LA : 7/9/2014 12:52 pm : link
but it shows up in streaks. He'll go on a homer binge again soon. It starts with his walks.
hard to top a .281 OPS allowed  
Greg from LI : 7/9/2014 12:55 pm : link
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Greg  
Phil in LA : 7/9/2014 12:58 pm : link
it seems like the FSL umps are squeezing him.
Couple more starts like this  
Chaka : 7/9/2014 1:46 pm : link
put him AA and set him up for rotation next year

prodigy
Refsnyder  
Phil in LA : 7/9/2014 2:01 pm : link
played RF in the first game of the double header and he's not playing in the second game.
Refsnyder is on the bench and in uniform...  
Dunedin81 : 7/9/2014 2:01 pm : link
Zoilo is neither.
Fowler has a 3-run HR...  
Dunedin81 : 7/9/2014 2:05 pm : link
his 8th in 180 or so ABs. K rate is reasonable, not seeing as much of the speed game from him, but a very impressive debut season from the kid.
RE: Couple more starts like this  
GIANTSr01 : 7/9/2014 2:23 pm : link
In comment 11760969 Chaka said:
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put him AA and set him up for rotation next year

prodigy


Only problem is that his innings are likely capped. Dunedin speculated that he'll probably be cut off around 120 IP this year, which likely means 150-160 next season.
Yesterday Katoh scored on a walk-off...  
Dunedin81 : 7/9/2014 3:20 pm : link
today he hit a go-ahead two-run 2B in the 8th and has a 12 game hit streak. He and Andujar have been much better of late.
Torrens is raking in rehab  
Phil in LA : 7/10/2014 6:53 am : link
and Sulburan is a real pitcher.
John Sickels with a "free Pat Venditte" column  
Dunedin81 : 7/10/2014 8:27 am : link
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Quick update on last year's IFA class  
Dunedin81 : 7/10/2014 9:01 am : link
...
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Lengthy Grantland piece on McCann's struggles...  
Dunedin81 : 7/10/2014 11:41 am : link
worth a read.
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Thanks Dunedin...  
Dan in the Springs : 7/10/2014 12:54 pm : link
sure appreciate you continuing to post good info here. Same for all contributors on this thread - keep it up!
NP, I really enjoy doing it...  
Dunedin81 : 7/10/2014 3:47 pm : link
Chris Cabrera, who was a phenom in the DSL a couple years ago before illness and injury derailed him, has pitched in 5 games this year, 9.2 IP, and still has not surrendered a run. It is early, but it'll be great if he can become a solid prospect again.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/10/2014 4:14 pm : link
Jeff (NYC)


I'm sure you covered him in the past but would greatly appreciate your thoughts on Rob Refsnyder. Do you see him as a GUY or just a guy for the Yanks? Long term 2B/OF?
Klaw
(4:14 PM)


I've never seen anything that would have tipped me off that he might hit .330 this year. Gotta be honest - thought he was a project at 2b and not a regular if he has to go back to the OF.
He hit another dinger  
Phil in LA : 7/10/2014 5:56 pm : link
in his first ab today.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/10/2014 10:03 pm : link
Pitching: Chatham’s Andrew Chin pitched 6 1/3 scoreless innings against Orleans Monday, giving up just four hits and two walks while striking out five. Chin is now 1-1 with a 3.85 ERA in five starts, and 1-0 with a 0.00 ERA against the Firebirds in two outings this season. - See more at: http://blogs.capecodonline.com/cape-cod-sports-beat/#sthash.WrRvCxVy.dpuf
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Dunedin81 : 7/10/2014 10:33 pm : link
Jim Callis ‏@jimcallisMLB 3m

9th-rder Vince Conde signs w/@Yankees for $155k (pick 272 value = $146,500). Vanderbilt SS looked slick w/glove at @NCAACWS. @MLBDraft
Not surprising...  
Dunedin81 : 7/10/2014 10:34 pm : link
Cogswell got slightly over slot, they were similarly situated.
RE: ...  
Ash : 7/10/2014 10:43 pm : link
In comment 11762921 Dunedin81 said:
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Jeff (NYC)


I'm sure you covered him in the past but would greatly appreciate your thoughts on Rob Refsnyder. Do you see him as a GUY or just a guy for the Yanks? Long term 2B/OF?
Klaw
(4:14 PM)


I've never seen anything that would have tipped me off that he might hit .330 this year. Gotta be honest - thought he was a project at 2b and not a regular if he has to go back to the OF.


Completely agreed with Law.
I was among Cashman's most vocal supporters...  
Dunedin81 : 7/10/2014 10:49 pm : link
but I've lost faith. That's just a shortsighted, dumbshit move. Pirela is hitting as well as Refsnyder right now and likely would at the next level, with as or maybe even more pop. Call him up if you want an outfielder, Refsnyder can be a long-term answer at 2B if he's given the time.
RE: I was among Cashman's most vocal supporters...  
Ash : 7/10/2014 10:51 pm : link
In comment 11763274 Dunedin81 said:
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but I've lost faith. That's just a shortsighted, dumbshit move. Pirela is hitting as well as Refsnyder right now and likely would at the next level, with as or maybe even more pop. Call him up if you want an outfielder, Refsnyder can be a long-term answer at 2B if he's given the time.


Hahaha, we're on the same page and we've gotten there at the same time. Perhaps the Tanaka injury (which is no one's fault, really) was the penultimate straw, and this was the camel back-breaker, but if Refsnyder could become even a slightly below average defender (which I don't think anyone thinks he couldn't be), his bat likely would've made him at least a decent regular. Average D and if his performance with the bat this year is real and he's a long-term solution up the middle.
I'm on the boat with you guys  
PetesHereNow : 7/10/2014 10:53 pm : link
Can we all agree that Jim Miller should not be the option in a 1 run game for anyone?
I've lost  
MookGiants : 7/10/2014 10:54 pm : link
faith in anyone involved in the minor league operation, hell anyone involved with the major league operation outside of Girardi and Rothschild, the rest of them can go, right from cashman on down, time to clean house. If only they could force Hal to sell too but thats not going to happen. Hopefully he sells to newscorp soon
I'd rather a Newscorp not own the Yankees  
Kulish29 : 7/10/2014 11:03 pm : link
We all know the disaster that was the CBS owned Yankees.
That was 40+ years ago  
MookGiants : 7/10/2014 11:05 pm : link
in a completely different environment. I want an owner who will just write the checks but not stick his nose in on everything and never let the team rebuild when they clearly need to. Hal is clueless, and he didnt even want this team in the first place, his brother in law drank away control of the Yankees.
You think Newscorp will keep their nose out of  
Kulish29 : 7/10/2014 11:08 pm : link
the Yankees baseball operations? I see the EXACT opposite happening. Newscorp owning this team would be awful.
I'm losing faith in Girardi also.  
PetesHereNow : 7/10/2014 11:08 pm : link
Assuming you still think you have a chance to win the game at 4-3, bottom 8th, how in the hell is Jim Miller your choice to pitch that inning? OK, maybe not Betances. But, Warren at least.

Then, we have fast runners on base, and he never starts the runner. We don't hit enough HRs to win games that way anymore, but we never manufacture runs anymore. We have very fast guys in Ellsbury and Gardner, and he's still dicking around batting Jeter second.
I dont think  
MookGiants : 7/10/2014 11:13 pm : link
it would be any worse than Hal running it. He's been a disaster. He made no brainer moves in 2009. He has destroyed the farm system because he went cheap in IFA and the draft for years until this year when it was 5 years too late, he gave out one awful contract after another this off-season, he refuses to let the team rebuild. He's a bad owner. It's only going to get worse if he is running the team. He won't can everyone in the minor league operation which needed to be done about 3 years ago. He won't can Cashman. He has no idea what he's doing
The biggest indictment of this  
Ash : 7/10/2014 11:17 pm : link
franchise is the inability to develop an above average regular/SP in the last 3-4 years.
BTW Conde signing for above slot...  
Dunedin81 : 7/10/2014 11:31 pm : link
effectively precludes any overslot possibilities. Maybe a few thousand floating around, but more likely they get a couple guys on late $100K or less deals.
RE: The biggest indictment of this  
Dunedin81 : 7/10/2014 11:34 pm : link
In comment 11763293 Ash said:
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franchise is the inability to develop an above average regular/SP in the last 3-4 years.


I tend to think the opposite. Front end starting pitching is usually a function of high draft picks and we have had none. We're developing pitching, not elite talent but good BP arms and back-end starters. Where we have really struggled is developing good starting position players. As I said above we probably could have produced some decent depth/bench bats if they had been given much of a chance but they haven't. Outside of Refsnyder and Murphy though, the next handful of guys with legit shots to be average or better MLB starters are at AA (O'Brien, flawed though he is, and Austin) or below.
RE: RE: The biggest indictment of this  
Ash : 7/10/2014 11:37 pm : link
In comment 11763298 Dunedin81 said:
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In comment 11763293 Ash said:


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franchise is the inability to develop an above average regular/SP in the last 3-4 years.



I tend to think the opposite. Front end starting pitching is usually a function of high draft picks and we have had none. We're developing pitching, not elite talent but good BP arms and back-end starters. Where we have really struggled is developing good starting position players. As I said above we probably could have produced some decent depth/bench bats if they had been given much of a chance but they haven't. Outside of Refsnyder and Murphy though, the next handful of guys with legit shots to be average or better MLB starters are at AA (O'Brien, flawed though he is, and Austin) or below.


Sorry the slash made things unclear. I meant a regular and/or SP.
Ah  
Dunedin81 : 7/10/2014 11:39 pm : link
We're agreeing more than usual tonight.
RE: I'm losing faith in Girardi also.  
Kulish29 : 7/10/2014 11:40 pm : link
In comment 11763290 PetesHereNow said:
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Assuming you still think you have a chance to win the game at 4-3, bottom 8th, how in the hell is Jim Miller your choice to pitch that inning? OK, maybe not Betances. But, Warren at least.

Then, we have fast runners on base, and he never starts the runner. We don't hit enough HRs to win games that way anymore, but we never manufacture runs anymore. We have very fast guys in Ellsbury and Gardner, and he's still dicking around batting Jeter second.


Come on now. Look at this line-up:

LF Brett Gardner
SS Derek Jeter
CF Jacoby Ellsbury
1B Mark Teixeira
DH Brian McCann
C Frankie Cervelli
RF Zelous Wheeler
3B Yangervis Solarte
2B Brendan Ryan

Who the else is going to bat 2nd?
RE: Ah  
Ash : 7/10/2014 11:45 pm : link
In comment 11763303 Dunedin81 said:
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We're agreeing more than usual tonight.


Yes, it's a nice change.
Can't believe they gave Conde overslot  
Phil in LA : 7/10/2014 11:48 pm : link
The 3 big POS FA's really screwed up what could have been another really good draft this year.

btw, Torrens might be the best of all the catchers they've been trying to develop.
Hopefully  
Ash : 7/10/2014 11:54 pm : link
Torrens has the tools to succeed. What does it matter though? By the time he reaches the upper minors we'll have blocked his path by giving a 30 year old UFA a 6+ year deal.
That way of doing things is about to crash  
Phil in LA : 7/11/2014 12:14 am : link
the farm is bouncing back, and the pennywise and pound foolish Steinbrenner brothers will have to start taking notice.
the farm  
MookGiants : 7/11/2014 12:16 am : link
really isnt bouncing back until they start to produce players who actually play and succeed in the majors. Big deal, they have guys in the low minors playing well. We've seen many cases in recent years where they fizzle out once they hit AA or AAA
It's times like these  
Kulish29 : 7/11/2014 12:19 am : link
I really miss the old NoMaas board. Ahh, the memories...
Phil I think  
Ash : 7/11/2014 12:22 am : link
you're right about there being some serious talent in the lower levels. I think last year's draft, especially with the three first rounders, could end up being a turning point if things work out. I think in Judge, Jagielo, and Clarkin you have guys with a combination of upside and polish that we haven't had in a long time.

I do, however, share some of Mook's concerns. We, for a long time, hoped that at least one of the Heathcott/Austin/Williams troika would end up being a major leaguer by now. Though there's still time, it looks awfully bleak for them. I won't get into the McCann/Murphy debate, because if McCann is as good a pitch framer as the stats say he is and pitch framing is as valuable or close to as valuable as the metrics say they are, he's still been worth it. But we still haven't gotten guys to AAA and have them rake, except for Montero, whose demise still seems odd to me because I think he could've succeeded here, and Refsnyder, who is apparently now a RF and therefore a non-prospect.
the number  
MookGiants : 7/11/2014 12:27 am : link
of guys who have fizzled out after promising starts in the low minors is really alarming, and no one in the organization has really had to answer to that. I still am puzzled how Mark Newman continues to be employed. He runs the minor league operation and guys simply have not developed in the upper minors for years now. They need to change the guys in charge of the minor leagues and I would be a lot more optimistic
Ash  
Phil in LA : 7/11/2014 12:31 am : link
the problem isn't that all those guys gut hurt or stalled, the problem was that there wasn't enough of them. Between some good draft picks, and insane IFA values like Severino and some of these guys drafting the GCL, we're about to have broad based talent at a number of positions for the first time in forever. Even when Jeter and Posada were coming up they had some other major leaguers in the system, but not as many as we should see from the groups in A ball now.

And folks should be encouraged that the guys who found Severino and Torrens etc were given a blank check this year. That's going to load up the system even more. And now it's going to sort of be two tiered between college guys and teens.
I wouldnt say Refsnyder's a RF'er now  
Kulish29 : 7/11/2014 12:32 am : link
Cashman said that, should he be called up, it would likely be to play RF. Doesnt mean he cant/wont stay at 2nd base.
btw  
Phil in LA : 7/11/2014 12:35 am : link
there were two main reasons for the farm stall. First, the Yanks didn't spend enough on the draft when they were allowed to. And second, there was a period of time in IFA when the system was corrupt and the guys running it were taking kickbacks, and we were ending up with big dollar kids like Kelvin DeLeon and Jackson Valera who were being compared Vlad and Piazza respectively by the corrupt guys. So we had bad draft picks and some bad IFA's masquerading as big ticket guys.
Deej  
Ash : 7/11/2014 12:36 am : link
had an excellent post (in this thread or a related one) about the career arcs in a "post-steroid" era and contract lengths. Deej argued that players primes are shorter now, as production starts to decline in the early thirties and on, whereas throughout the 90's and 00's, players on roids produced well into their mid-thirties. As such, the best contracts end by the players early thirties, spanning their beginning in their mid-20's, thus capturing their highest production for the best value. Obviously I haven't run the numbers (nor has he) to confirm his theory, but it sounds roughly right.

If all of that is right and other teams are also locking up their best players earlier (thus getting their best years at the best price), then the Yanks financial advantage needs to be flexed elsewhere. Unfortunately, we give up first rounders in signing players to bad contracts and we didn't spend as much in IFA when there were no spending limits. We certainly don't have an advantage in player development, where we're mediocre, at best.

It's really a bleak picture, especially when our biggest advantage ($) can't be an advantage anymore. It's probably better for the game and I'm not going to bitch and moan about a level playing ground, especially when other teams do pay their stars and do draft well and contend. The Cards have done it without being cheap or picking particularly high. But as it now stands, the team has a fistful of dollars with no one to spend it on and no ability to produce its own stars, despite getting a considerable amount of talent into the minors and up to the AA level, where they then begin to fizzle out.
RE: I wouldnt say Refsnyder's a RF'er now  
Ash : 7/11/2014 12:40 am : link
In comment 11763320 Kulish29 said:
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Cashman said that, should he be called up, it would likely be to play RF. Doesnt mean he cant/wont stay at 2nd base.


Phil - that's right. I don't have the data to make a strong argument that the Yanks attrition rates are considerably worse than other teams's. It just seems we can't even manage to push one high level talent through to the majors. But "seems" isn't a good argument. Hopefully the increased volume of talent leads to a couple of good major leaguers pushing through.

Kulish - You're right, but it reeks of short-termism. Refsnyder's hitting incredibly well and his defense is a project you NEED to commit to. Even if he comes up and hits reasonably well as a RF, he's not going to be a difference between our contending or not, especially with Tanaka out (I'm just assuming he's going to have TJ sooner or later). Or they're showcasing Refsnyder for a trade, probably for a big-time, big contract, probably slightly past his peak starter, which again would at best replace Tanaka, keep us in neutral and have us lose a guy who has the plus makeup and plus bat skills to make up for mediocre 2b defense.

I don't see a plan and that's the worry.
I still remember when NJASDJDH  
Kulish29 : 7/11/2014 12:44 am : link
was all excited about Marcos Vechionacci.
I basically try not to get  
Ash : 7/11/2014 12:46 am : link
excited by a prospect until he's performed at Tampa.
Everyone was excited about Jose Tabata  
Phil in LA : 7/11/2014 12:47 am : link
but he turned out to be 2 or 3 years older than the Yanks thought and his wife was some sort of master criminal.

But at the same time, Cano and Melky have been a star and long term major leaguer from that corrupt brew.
RE: RE: I wouldnt say Refsnyder's a RF'er now  
Kulish29 : 7/11/2014 1:03 am : link
In comment 11763323 Ash said:
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In comment 11763320 Kulish29 said:


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Cashman said that, should he be called up, it would likely be to play RF. Doesnt mean he cant/wont stay at 2nd base.



Phil - that's right. I don't have the data to make a strong argument that the Yanks attrition rates are considerably worse than other teams's. It just seems we can't even manage to push one high level talent through to the majors. But "seems" isn't a good argument. Hopefully the increased volume of talent leads to a couple of good major leaguers pushing through.

Kulish - You're right, but it reeks of short-termism. Refsnyder's hitting incredibly well and his defense is a project you NEED to commit to. Even if he comes up and hits reasonably well as a RF, he's not going to be a difference between our contending or not, especially with Tanaka out (I'm just assuming he's going to have TJ sooner or later). Or they're showcasing Refsnyder for a trade, probably for a big-time, big contract, probably slightly past his peak starter, which again would at best replace Tanaka, keep us in neutral and have us lose a guy who has the plus makeup and plus bat skills to make up for mediocre 2b defense.

I don't see a plan and that's the worry.


I dont see a solid plan either but, I also dont see them trading Refsnyder. While I dont think calling him up and delaying his development at 2nd is good for him, I do think it is good they're even thinking about him. Hell, they had Stick personally evaluate him so, obviously they like him a lot.

We all, as Yankee fans, feel like complete ass right now and that's understandable. But, I dont think the future is as bleak as we are making in out to be at this time. The farm hasnt churned out prospects as we would like but, it's far from Mother Hubbard's cupboard either.

I think there are  
Phil in LA : 7/11/2014 1:04 am : link
two or three plans at work.
The old NoMaas board was the best  
Greg from LI : 7/11/2014 1:05 am : link
Except for Costanza. Fuck that guy.
The gut-wrenching thing about Tanaka  
Ash : 7/11/2014 1:09 am : link
is that he was the only player on the roster who looked like a franchise cornerstone, who'd still be young if and when the prospects developed. Now TJ recovery (I'm not a doctor, but I just have this nagging feeling that he's going to have TJ sooner rather than later) is much more common and successful than it used to be, but I'd like to have him back by age 27 at roughly what he is now. Who knows if that'll happen.

We were never going to be the A's and didn't need to be. But you can't overpay for every position and the great strength of our financial muscle on the major league level would be to fill in roster spots with players who are overpaid, but not cornerstone players, while we gambled on high upside talent in the minors, hoping to hit big on a couple.
Severino is the goods  
Phil in LA : 7/11/2014 1:10 am : link
and Clarkin and some of the others should be rotation guys, too. And we should have bridges and bandages for the rotation and bullpen coming from the farm, in fact, they are already.
RE: I basically try not to get  
Kulish29 : 7/11/2014 1:14 am : link
In comment 11763325 Ash said:
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excited by a prospect until he's performed at Tampa.


I yearn for the days I would get excited for prospects. But now, it's hard for me to get excited about any of them anymore, no matter how good they're doing because, I've been disappointed too many times. Kind of like a kid waiting outside for his dad to pick him up because it's dad's weekend to have him only, dad never shows up....

Excuse me for a second, I have to go wipe some uh, sand out of my eyes.
RE: The old NoMaas board was the best  
Kulish29 : 7/11/2014 1:20 am : link
In comment 11763329 Greg from LI said:
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Except for Costanza. Fuck that guy.


Lol. I rarely ever go there anymore. I hated that they got rid of the board and turned it into a RAB style blog.
Anyway. ...  
Greg from LI : 7/11/2014 1:22 am : link
1) Corporate ownership would be the worst thing that could happen. Name me such a franchise that ever won anything. The CBS Yankees, the Fox Dodgers, the Disney Angels, the Nintendo Mariners, the Chicago Tribune Cubs....none of them were worth a shit. Corporate ownership guarantees that profits will be the only yardstick for running the team. I know you feel that Hal ' s the same way but he could change. Corporations don't.

2) I do feel like we've been touting our low minors talent for close to a decade with little to show. Fire Mark Newman yesterday.

3) Right now everyone is locking up young players, but we'll see how long that lasts once some of these teams get burned by a Dontrelle Willis type who crashes after a fast start. There will be some level of equilibrium reached.
Greg  
Ash : 7/11/2014 1:25 am : link
agreed on points 1-2. But if we could just get 2 quality regulars from our minors, we go from beign a 85 win team to a 90 win team. The inability of our farm system to produce even a 3 WAR infielder or OF is reprehensible.

Don't know about no. 3. There's obviously risk with these extensions, but I doubt one Dontrelle flameout would be enough to dissuade teams from handing out reasonably cheap 4-5 year contracts after a player's 24 or 25 year season.
But the system has changed quite a bit  
Phil in LA : 7/11/2014 1:27 am : link
part of the fallout from the IFA corruption of the mid oughts was that they sent Donny Rowland down there. Rowland was a Yankee scout when they had a good farm then he left for the Angels and Royals, then the Yanks brought him back when Cash got expanded powers. He's in the scouting hall of fame.

Anyway, they've instituted a completely different way of scouting and doing business down there, which includes a non-reliance on bathing showcases, and insisting on seeing kids in game situations and at bats. Also, Pat McMahon is now head of the academy program down there, and they are finally teaching these IFA hitters the strike zone before they come over.

So instead of having one good player and pitcher in the GCL, they now have two teams there with multiple solid to very good prospects from IFA every year. So it's not just a Vechi or a Tabata. It's a bunch of position guys and pitchers.

They used to have a Nova or an Angel Reyes, but now they have a plethora of hard throwers who can throw strikes and it's because they have an old school no bullshit scout like Donny Rowland picking the players now.

Btw, Gordon Blakely is also on the international stuff, and he was a guy we stole away from the Mariners back in the late nineties and he found Edgar Martinez when he was with them.
yeah, it never made sense to me  
Greg from LI : 7/11/2014 1:28 am : link
NoMaas had its niche and was really strong in it. Thriving board, awesome photoshops, decent to good analysis. Then they just up and decide overnight to rip it to shreds and make it into a weaker version of RAB? Lame.
Btw  
Phil in LA : 7/11/2014 1:29 am : link
Do you fire Mark Newman guys know who the "head of player development" was when Jeter, Pettitte, Mo, Posada, Lowell, Guzman and the other major leaguers from the Yankee system was?
Greg  
Phil in LA : 7/11/2014 1:30 am : link
NaMaas wasn't making any money.
Ash  
Greg from LI : 7/11/2014 1:35 am : link
Just feels like there's some possibility there will be a team sometime who finds themselves hamstrung after two or three younger guys sign long term deals and flop.


Phil, that's all fine, but like I said yesterday - I trust the Yankees scouting, but not their minor league development system. I don't suspect Rowland, but I have zero faith in Newman.
RE: Btw  
Greg from LI : 7/11/2014 1:37 am : link
In comment 11763339 Phil in LA said:
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Do you fire Mark Newman guys know who the "head of player development" was when Jeter, Pettitte, Mo, Posada, Lowell, Guzman and the other major leaguers from the Yankee system was?


Brian Sabean?

Can't imagine NoMaas makes any money now either.
Phil  
Kulish29 : 7/11/2014 1:39 am : link
Was NYYFANS making money back then? I saw a while ago Jim had sold it to SportsNet.
You didn't answer my question  
Phil in LA : 7/11/2014 1:40 am : link
the head of player development when the core four and all those guys were coming up was Mark Newman. They promoted him, and since then development hasn't been the same.

At the same time, it is also true that development becomes much easier when you have players. Look at Judge. This could be a three level year for him. And it could be one for Severinon. They happen to be outstanding and there seems to be no problem with their development.

For awhile we didn't have anyone quite as good as these guys. But the better the players the easier the development, seemingly. And the lack of great players is on Hal, and those corrupt guys in the DR.
Greg the reason they probably copied  
Phil in LA : 7/11/2014 1:42 am : link
Rivera Ave was to try to monetize.
of course there's no problem with their development yet  
Greg from LI : 7/11/2014 1:44 am : link
They haven't hit Trenton yet. That's usually where things start to fall apart.
I don't like the manager at Trenton  
Phil in LA : 7/11/2014 1:50 am : link
though he's very popular around baseball and has a great rep. That said, Refsnyder, Murphy and Dougas had no problem there. Ben Gamel looks like he's graduate. I don't know what the hell is wrong with Mason Williams, or Gary Sanchez, but Sanchez will probably graduate.
NoMaas had LaneMeyer...  
Dunedin81 : 7/11/2014 5:40 am : link
before he went behind a pay wall. That was the main selling point. But the pomposity, the douchebags on the boards, after awhile it just wasn't worth a regular read in the hope that you'd get a funny photoshop or two.
this thread turned depressing  
GIANTSr01 : 7/11/2014 8:40 am : link
You should all go check out the Tampa box score...

DBJ: 3-5, 2B, HR. He's already surpassed last season's XBH total and has a respectable .371 OBP for the season. His OPS is creeping up to .800 as well. He might be due for a promo soon, though the Trenton OF is pretty full.

Judge: 2-4, HR, BB - 13 HRs on the season (4 in 20 Tampa games). Now has a .275/.425/.536 line in Tampa (.320/.427/.959 on the season).

RDP: 5 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 5 K. That's 4 great starts in a row (22.1 IP, 17 H, 3 ER, 6 BB, 19 K).
and Katoh extended his hitting streak  
GIANTSr01 : 7/11/2014 8:42 am : link
Andujar continues to hit as well. Hopefully his night game struggles are a thing of the past.
RE: RE: I'm losing faith in Girardi also.  
PetesHereNow : 7/11/2014 8:48 am : link
In comment 11763304 Kulish29 said:
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Assuming you still think you have a chance to win the game at 4-3, bottom 8th, how in the hell is Jim Miller your choice to pitch that inning? OK, maybe not Betances. But, Warren at least.

Then, we have fast runners on base, and he never starts the runner. We don't hit enough HRs to win games that way anymore, but we never manufacture runs anymore. We have very fast guys in Ellsbury and Gardner, and he's still dicking around batting Jeter second.



Come on now. Look at this line-up:

LF Brett Gardner
SS Derek Jeter
CF Jacoby Ellsbury
1B Mark Teixeira
DH Brian McCann
C Frankie Cervelli
RF Zelous Wheeler
3B Yangervis Solarte
2B Brendan Ryan

Who the else is going to bat 2nd?


I'd be going ellsbury Gardner teix McCann as my top 4 in that case.
RE: this thread turned depressing  
Dunedin81 : 7/11/2014 9:07 am : link
In comment 11763404 GIANTSr01 said:
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You should all go check out the Tampa box score...

DBJ: 3-5, 2B, HR. He's already surpassed last season's XBH total and has a respectable .371 OBP for the season. His OPS is creeping up to .800 as well. He might be due for a promo soon, though the Trenton OF is pretty full.

Judge: 2-4, HR, BB - 13 HRs on the season (4 in 20 Tampa games). Now has a .275/.425/.536 line in Tampa (.320/.427/.959 on the season).

RDP: 5 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 5 K. That's 4 great starts in a row (22.1 IP, 17 H, 3 ER, 6 BB, 19 K).


DBJ has also taken reps at 3B. I was going to say it would make sense to promote him when Jagielo came back but he seems to have had a setback in his rehab. Either way, I'd like to see Cave and DBJ at Trenton, maybe send Gamel up to Scranton as he has been very good.
RE: Btw  
MookGiants : 7/11/2014 9:14 am : link
In comment 11763339 Phil in LA said:
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Do you fire Mark Newman guys know who the "head of player development" was when Jeter, Pettitte, Mo, Posada, Lowell, Guzman and the other major leaguers from the Yankee system was?


So he gets to keep his job because of something he had a hand in 20 years ago? Fantastic, who cares that for the last 10 years the farm system has been pure garbage.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/11/2014 9:18 am : link
Josh Norris ‏@jnorris427 15m

J.Mateo has a sore hand. I. Clarkin has a sprained ankle. A. Avelino will start rehab games tomorrow. Jagielo may return next wk. #Yankees
RE: RE: this thread turned depressing  
GIANTSr01 : 7/11/2014 9:28 am : link
In comment 11763440 Dunedin81 said:
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In comment 11763404 GIANTSr01 said:


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You should all go check out the Tampa box score...

DBJ: 3-5, 2B, HR. He's already surpassed last season's XBH total and has a respectable .371 OBP for the season. His OPS is creeping up to .800 as well. He might be due for a promo soon, though the Trenton OF is pretty full.

Judge: 2-4, HR, BB - 13 HRs on the season (4 in 20 Tampa games). Now has a .275/.425/.536 line in Tampa (.320/.427/.959 on the season).

RDP: 5 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 5 K. That's 4 great starts in a row (22.1 IP, 17 H, 3 ER, 6 BB, 19 K).



DBJ has also taken reps at 3B. I was going to say it would make sense to promote him when Jagielo came back but he seems to have had a setback in his rehab. Either way, I'd like to see Cave and DBJ at Trenton, maybe send Gamel up to Scranton as he has been very good.


Thanks. Didn't realize he was still taking reps at 3B. If he can play adequately defensively at 3B and a corner OF spot, it could help his chances.

I was hoping Bird would get a promo too, but he hasn't been lighting it up. He's been solid, but no Judge/Refsnyder streak (yet).
RE: ...  
GIANTSr01 : 7/11/2014 9:29 am : link
In comment 11763455 Dunedin81 said:
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Josh Norris ‏@jnorris427 15m

J.Mateo has a sore hand. I. Clarkin has a sprained ankle. A. Avelino will start rehab games tomorrow. Jagielo may return next wk. #Yankees


Good news on Clarkin. With the Yanks minor league pitching woes, I was fearing the worst.

Clarkin has a mild ankle sprain...  
Dunedin81 : 7/11/2014 9:31 am : link
he suffered during conditioning drills. This should have the added bonus of controlling his innings.

Bird has hit reasonably well but between the late start and the somewhat underwhelming power performance he probably stays at Tampa this year unless he goes on a tear.
And DBJ has actually played a majority of his games at 3B...  
Dunedin81 : 7/11/2014 9:32 am : link
with Jagielo out.
Bird's still really young though, right?  
Greg from LI : 7/11/2014 9:34 am : link
20 or 21 if I'm not mistaken.
22 in November...  
Dunedin81 : 7/11/2014 9:35 am : link
he has time. I hope the back doesn't become a recurrent problem for him.
How is his D at 3B?  
GIANTSr01 : 7/11/2014 9:36 am : link
I just assumed they made the OF move permanent, but it's definitely good to have some options at 3B.
For the level it's fine...  
Dunedin81 : 7/11/2014 9:41 am : link
going forward it will likely be average at best, especially if he fills out and starts displaying some of the power they hope is coming.
Manny Banuelos  
Phil in LA : 7/11/2014 9:58 am : link
is pitching today. If he starts bouncing back in the second half, it would be a great thing.
Torrens  
sinctybldh : 7/11/2014 1:59 pm : link
no 6 on BA hot sheet this week. He is getting a lot of praise on there.
RE: Torrens  
Dunedin81 : 7/11/2014 2:02 pm : link
In comment 11764192 sinctybldh said:
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no 6 on BA hot sheet this week. He is getting a lot of praise on there.


Torrens has a lot of talent. Probably not Sanchez's raw power but a better hit tool and the defense is a lot more fluid, he has gotten praise since he came stateside for his abilities behind the dish.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/11/2014 2:24 pm : link
StatenIslandYankees ‏@SIYanks 6m

ROSTER UPDATE: SS Vince Conde (@vince_VU3), '14 9th rd pick & recent CWS Champion w/ @VandyBaseball, has been added to the S.I. roster.


Wonder if he'll split time with Estrada at SS or what they have in mind for him.
I hope Conde is better than he showed in the CWS  
Greg from LI : 7/11/2014 3:23 pm : link
I wasn't particularly impressed.
Patient hitter (40:42 BB:K)...  
Dunedin81 : 7/11/2014 3:27 pm : link
not a ton of pop (12 career HRs as a collegian) but was 15/17 on SB attempts. Glove is serviceable. Think Refsnyder lite.
Fangraphs piece on Brady Lail...  
Dunedin81 : 7/14/2014 11:03 pm : link
worthwhile read (he's the last of the three arms profiled so scroll down).
Link - ( New Window )
Webb and Tracy  
Phil in LA : 7/15/2014 12:17 am : link
got promoted to AAA.
Jonny Drozd, a 6'7" UDFA  
Dunedin81 : 7/15/2014 4:16 pm : link
K'ed 3 in his one-inning debut. Actually had a decent stat line at Texas Tech, 2.09 ERA and a 1.08 WHIP with a BB/9 of 1.84, which is impressive considering his height.
Severino got promoted  
Phil in LA : 7/15/2014 5:41 pm : link
to AA.
Wow, spot start  
Dunedin81 : 7/15/2014 5:47 pm : link
?
Lindgren to Tampa...  
Dunedin81 : 7/15/2014 5:51 pm : link
that was a little more predictable.
wow  
sinctybldh : 7/15/2014 6:14 pm : link
they are being very aggressive with Severino.
Is Refsnyder still  
Ash : 7/15/2014 6:25 pm : link
at RF? If so #FreeRefsnyder
RE: wow  
Dunedin81 : 7/15/2014 6:25 pm : link
In comment 11768616 sinctybldh said:
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they are being very aggressive with Severino.


The concern someone raised on the PP forum, and it was a fair point. At this time of year the obvious concern for those of us who think we're not a player or two away is that they're trying to showcase him for a deal.
RE: RE: wow  
Ash : 7/15/2014 6:26 pm : link
In comment 11768631 Dunedin81 said:
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they are being very aggressive with Severino.



The concern someone raised on the PP forum, and it was a fair point. At this time of year the obvious concern for those of us who think we're not a player or two away is that they're trying to showcase him for a deal.


I wouldn't be surprised if they were. The Refsnyder move reeks of an attempt to get him to the Bronx too.

I have close to no faith in this FO anymore.
RE: Is Refsnyder still  
Dunedin81 : 7/15/2014 6:26 pm : link
In comment 11768630 Ash said:
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at RF? If so #FreeRefsnyder


Last game or two before their break he was at 2B.
I talked about the Severino  
Phil in LA : 7/15/2014 6:33 pm : link
promotion on my blog. Yeah, it could be a showcase, but it's also earned and it moves his MLB eta up to next season.
the front office makes it very hard to  
sinctybldh : 7/15/2014 6:46 pm : link
get attached to any of our best prospects. I really hope they don't do anything foolish.
The Yanks have never ever  
Phil in LA : 7/15/2014 6:47 pm : link
traded a pitcher of Severino's quality and won't start now when they're not even close.
i hope  
sinctybldh : 7/15/2014 6:49 pm : link
u are right. i didn't think they would trade montero with his hit tool, but they did.
RE: i hope  
Ash : 7/15/2014 6:50 pm : link
In comment 11768665 sinctybldh said:
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u are right. i didn't think they would trade montero with his hit tool, but they did.


To be fair, they did trade him for a young pitcher who they thought could be a rotation anchor.
yes i understand that  
sinctybldh : 7/15/2014 6:52 pm : link
but they could do something similar with severino if they chose to do so.
They never have, ever  
Phil in LA : 7/15/2014 6:54 pm : link
they've held onto their pitching prospects who looked like they could help throughout history.

Well they did deal Hitchcock, if that counts...  
Dunedin81 : 7/15/2014 8:29 pm : link
also Jake Cave to AA, long overdue.
maybe they can have an outfield  
sinctybldh : 7/15/2014 8:31 pm : link
of gardner, ellsbury and cave. lol
Hitchcock doesn't count  
Phil in LA : 7/15/2014 9:07 pm : link
they liked Pettitte better. And they liked Gramman better than Milton and Henn better than Claussen. And Borrell better than a bunch.
RE: maybe they can have an outfield  
Dunedin81 : 7/15/2014 9:17 pm : link
In comment 11768760 sinctybldh said:
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of gardner, ellsbury and cave. lol


If Cave continues to progress, he's a strong trade candidate. Cashman has made it clear he wants a power bat in RF and Cave isn't that, at least not yet (Gardner could of course be traded). He does have a cannon for an arm though.
I wonder if Gamel was promoted to AAA  
Phil in LA : 7/15/2014 9:19 pm : link
or if Fowler is headed up to High A.
Judge is the RF  
Phil in LA : 7/15/2014 9:20 pm : link
of the future.
RE: I wonder if Gamel was promoted to AAA  
Dunedin81 : 7/15/2014 9:26 pm : link
In comment 11768841 Phil in LA said:
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or if Fowler is headed up to High A.


Gamel I could see but I'd be really surprised if Fowler got more than a cup of coffee at Tampa this year (course the same could have been said for Severino and Trenton) just because he's a prep kid and he got to Charleston late, with just shy of 200 ABs.
Just to reiterate...  
Dunedin81 : 7/15/2014 11:06 pm : link
deadline is on Friday, 7/18. If they have a spare $50K (over and above the $100K cap) I'd be surprised but you'll probably see one or two more signings, maybe Chin, Barrow or Graybill.
Nick Rumbelow to AA  
Dunedin81 : 7/16/2014 8:42 am : link
Also not much of a surprise. Had been pitching very well.
RE: i hope  
BeerFridge : 7/16/2014 10:51 am : link
In comment 11768665 sinctybldh said:
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u are right. i didn't think they would trade montero with his hit tool, but they did.


Doesn't seem like it was a good idea to get attached to him anyway. He sucks.
RE: RE: i hope  
Dunedin81 : 7/16/2014 11:21 am : link
In comment 11769239 BeerFridge said:
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In comment 11768665 sinctybldh said:


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u are right. i didn't think they would trade montero with his hit tool, but they did.



Doesn't seem like it was a good idea to get attached to him anyway. He sucks.


A lot of people thought Montero was going to be a very good player. To date it hasn't worked out, but he is still just 24 years old and has hit reasonably well this year at AAA and briefly at the major league level.

That said, Sanchez is a very different player. Hit tool isn't comparable, power is though Sanchez doesn't flash what Montero did in the minors, but defensively there is no comparison. Sanchez has a lot of work to do but he has believers, the question isn't whether he can catch but how good he can be. For Montero the question was can he catch at all and it has been answered in the negative.
Well, I guess I'm not writing him off. But I do remember a lot  
BeerFridge : 7/16/2014 11:32 am : link
of "sky is falling" reaction when Montero was traded. But the Yankees obviously knew he wouldn't be a good catcher, although they pretended otherwise. And they probably knew about some of the maturity issues that have hampered him.

The real point I'm making is that people get attached to prospects and really they just are prospects. Whatever a guy's minor league performance and scouting reports there's still a chance he will never reach his projection in the majors. I'd say that prospects are probably a bit overvalued right now in the trade market. It's probably a better time to be a buyer than seller.
They're probably overvalued...  
Dunedin81 : 7/16/2014 11:35 am : link
but the shift toward locking up young players long-term has made their value unclear, because it seems like so few premium players will hit the FA market. It will take a few years to adjust.
Lail and Caleb Smith  
Phil in LA : 7/16/2014 12:13 pm : link
were also promoted. Clarkin was activated. Stefan Lopez and Andy Beresford were promoted to Charleston. Just a ton of promotions this week.
Lail is maybe a little more surprising than Smith...  
Dunedin81 : 7/16/2014 1:44 pm : link
Lail is an excellent prospect, though he hasn't been quite as dominant this year as some anticipated. Smith had a stretch of dominance, then a pretty bad stretch where he got shelled, but now he is back to pitching well again. Glad to see on both fronts.
Jagielo was  
Phil in LA : 7/16/2014 1:47 pm : link
activated in Tampa.
DePaula with another good line...  
Dunedin81 : 7/16/2014 9:25 pm : link
6 IP 3 H 1 R 1 ER (solo HR) 1 BB 7 Ks. That's five good starts in a row, two with 1 ER, two with 0 ER and one with 2 ER. I wonder whether they make room for him in Trenton next.

Jagielo was 1-4 with an RBI BTW.
have any of u guys watched  
sinctybldh : 7/16/2014 9:26 pm : link
DePaula's starts recently? I am curious about how his secondary pitches are coming along.
I haven't seen him since early in the year...  
Dunedin81 : 7/16/2014 9:35 pm : link
I haven't had the time to watch MILB.TV that much lately.
Seems like for the first time in years we have some legit prospects  
yatqb : 7/16/2014 9:49 pm : link
who are moving up in our minor leagues. Is there hope that they'll keep this going all the way to the majors, or can we expect the fall off we've seen over the past decade?
RE: Seems like for the first time in years we have some legit prospects  
Dunedin81 : 7/16/2014 9:55 pm : link
In comment 11770106 yatqb said:
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who are moving up in our minor leagues. Is there hope that they'll keep this going all the way to the majors, or can we expect the fall off we've seen over the past decade?


There's plenty of hope. Some of these guys will fail, indeed probably most of them will fail, but they're set up to push starters at a number of positions into the high minors over the next 12 months. And while you'd love to see a congo line of Top 25 prospects heading toward the bigs like the Cubs, this is, realistically speaking, about the best we're going to do.
wish they could develop  
sinctybldh : 7/16/2014 10:05 pm : link
hitters like they do relievers. if they did that they would be in great shape.
RE: wish they could develop  
Dunedin81 : 7/16/2014 10:15 pm : link
In comment 11770121 sinctybldh said:
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hitters like they do relievers. if they did that they would be in great shape.


Yeah I'm hoping for the best but I'll believe it when I see it. It isn't a coincidence that Refsnyder is having as much success as a Yankee hitter has had in years and he was an advanced college bat whose approach owes little to their developmental staff.
I am very disappointed  
sinctybldh : 7/16/2014 10:21 pm : link
in the development of Austin and Williams. I really thought they were going to amount to solid major league players and now I am thinking they will be lucky to even make it to the majors.
RE: I am very disappointed  
Dunedin81 : 7/16/2014 10:25 pm : link
In comment 11770133 sinctybldh said:
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in the development of Austin and Williams. I really thought they were going to amount to solid major league players and now I am thinking they will be lucky to even make it to the majors.


It's easy enough to blame Austin's wrist injury but he wasn't hitting that well before it. Williams just has a long swing and his approach isn't great, he has the speed and is a plus defender but if he can't hit enough it won't matter.
Encinas  
Phil in LA : 7/16/2014 10:32 pm : link
is having a tough comeback.
I doubt MW  
Ash : 7/16/2014 10:35 pm : link
or TA amount to anything. Sanchez's hitting has stagnated. The contact hasn't come along.
For whatever reason  
MookGiants : 7/16/2014 10:39 pm : link
outside of relievers whenever guys get to AA in the Yankees system they usually start to tail off
RE: I doubt MW  
Dunedin81 : 7/16/2014 10:48 pm : link
In comment 11770143 Ash said:
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or TA amount to anything. Sanchez's hitting has stagnated. The contact hasn't come along.


Sanchez isn't much of an issue. His defense has improved and it isn't out of the ordinary for a defender playing a position like SS or especially catcher to have some offensive struggles. He is hitting well enough and likely will continue to hit well enough as he progresses. Austin is primarily a 1B/DH at this point, which is already not as valuable, but the bat still has potential. Williams needs to really overhaul his approach at the plate if he's ever going to maximize his physical gifts.
RE: RE: I doubt MW  
Ash : 7/16/2014 10:57 pm : link
In comment 11770156 Dunedin81 said:
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In comment 11770143 Ash said:


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or TA amount to anything. Sanchez's hitting has stagnated. The contact hasn't come along.



Sanchez isn't much of an issue. His defense has improved and it isn't out of the ordinary for a defender playing a position like SS or especially catcher to have some offensive struggles. He is hitting well enough and likely will continue to hit well enough as he progresses. Austin is primarily a 1B/DH at this point, which is already not as valuable, but the bat still has potential. Williams needs to really overhaul his approach at the plate if he's ever going to maximize his physical gifts.


While it certainly isn't impossible for things to click for either MW or TA, the odds are against it at this point. My worry with Sanchez is the contact rate. He's been a mediocre hitter for contact for a while now. Now the home/road splits are promising, since he's hitting pretty well on the road, but Sanchez seems like he needs another year or two to really polish the bat.
Tyler Austin  
Phil in LA : 7/16/2014 11:07 pm : link
has had those damn wrist issues. He could still bounce back, but those are pretty tough.
It's a damn shame  
Ash : 7/16/2014 11:09 pm : link
because I thought he was going to be the sort of .290/20-25 homer/90 rbi sort of guy we can't seem to produce. Not a total star, but an above average starter.
They thought he was going to be even  
Phil in LA : 7/16/2014 11:28 pm : link
a bit better than that. Really good base stealing instincts, if not speed, too.
The Farm in general  
Phil in LA : 7/16/2014 11:29 pm : link
would look a lot better over the past few years but for the injuries to Slade, Austin, David Adams and Ravel Santana.
The franchise honestly  
Ash : 7/16/2014 11:40 pm : link
has been snakebitten the past 6-7 years or so. Joba was the one that hurt the most. He was going to be our ace.
The Joba/Hughes thing  
Phil in LA : 7/16/2014 11:58 pm : link
was just bizarre.
Mitchell and Matt Tracy to SWB permanently as well...  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 9:22 am : link
and it looks like Camarena will also stay at Trenton. Good stuff. They won't all excel but with some of these guys, like Tracy who is 25, you need to sort out what if anything you have there.
Yankee superlatives...  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 10:08 am : link
a pretty entertaining read.
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hahaha....what teammate would you want to marry your daughter?  
Greg from LI : 7/17/2014 10:14 am : link
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WINNER: Adam Warren

Runner Up: Brian Roberts

Also Receiving Votes: "None of these guys." "No one." "Definitely no one in here."

The Riverdogs are going to recreate...  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 10:53 am : link
the Disco bonfire that Veeck tried that went horribly wrong, except they're going to do it with Bieber and Miley Cyrus crap.
Way to go Charleston!  
Greg from LI : 7/17/2014 10:59 am : link
Interesting...  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 11:05 am : link
Nick Peruffo ţ@nickperuffo · 2m
Only one Yankees farmhand in @keithlaw's latest top 50, and its not Sanchez or Severino. It's Aaron Judge. http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11223667/mlb-keith-law-top-50-mlb-prospects … ($)

Jordan Montgomery threw three hitless, scoreless frames...  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 11:54 am : link
just 1 BB and 3 Ks. First outing was rocky, last two have been very good. I wonder if he ends in Charleston or at least NYP before too long.
RAB with characteristic piracy of Law's list...  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 12:39 pm : link
Judge was 48th.
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Bird went deep...  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 2:06 pm : link
5th on the year.

Also Manny Barreda was released and Jairo Heredia went down to AA.
Also Lindgren struck out the side in his High-A debut...  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 2:07 pm : link
that's good to see.
Bird  
Phil in LA : 7/17/2014 2:08 pm : link
needs to get it going this year. He's been okay, but not the future cornerstone he looked like last year. Backs can be like that.
DBJ up to 19 games...  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 2:36 pm : link
28 game on-base streak. I was not a believer and I'm still not sure he'll ever be an impact player but he's a lot more of a prospect than he was four months ago.
RE: DBJ up to 19 games...  
GIANTSr01 : 7/17/2014 2:38 pm : link
In comment 11771126 Dunedin81 said:
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28 game on-base streak. I was not a believer and I'm still not sure he'll ever be an impact player but he's a lot more of a prospect than he was four months ago.


He's got quite a few XBHs in that time frame too (mostly 2Bs)
Eclipsed last year's hit total...  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 2:42 pm : link
in 100 less ABs. 8 HRs vs 11 but he's doing it without the toe tap and uppercut so it should play better going forward.
he had a poor June  
GIANTSr01 : 7/17/2014 2:53 pm : link
with only a .301 SLG (though his OBP was still .346), but he's been on fire in July with an .872 OPS. With Jagielo's return, I'm a little surprised he didn't get the bump to Trenton.
He's in a park and league  
Phil in LA : 7/17/2014 3:22 pm : link
that suppress O.
I don't think he's a great prospect  
Greg from LI : 7/17/2014 3:23 pm : link
But he's put himself back into the "prospect" category after looking like a definite org guy, so that's nice.
anyone  
mitch300 : 7/17/2014 3:24 pm : link
know how is Pineda's rehab going? Has he started throwing yet?
Last I hear, Pineda was throwing from a mound  
BeerFridge : 7/17/2014 3:25 pm : link
not much more. Mid august at the earliest and the will be super cautious.
slightly  
MookGiants : 7/17/2014 3:40 pm : link
off topic but I'm surprised it hasn't been in the press at all today.

Heard Johnny Damon on Buster Olney's podcast yesterday while I was in the car. Buster asked him who the best teammates he ever had were. He named 4, Mike Sweeney, Jermaine Dye, Jason Giambi, and Alex Rodriguez. Didn't mention Jeter at all. I thought Buster did a poor job of not following up and asking him about Jeter as a teammate. He was raving about ARod as a teammate
RE: slightly  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 3:45 pm : link
In comment 11771274 MookGiants said:
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off topic but I'm surprised it hasn't been in the press at all today.

Heard Johnny Damon on Buster Olney's podcast yesterday while I was in the car. Buster asked him who the best teammates he ever had were. He named 4, Mike Sweeney, Jermaine Dye, Jason Giambi, and Alex Rodriguez. Didn't mention Jeter at all. I thought Buster did a poor job of not following up and asking him about Jeter as a teammate. He was raving about ARod as a teammate


I don't know why not making his Top 4 is all that newsworthy, especially when they competed against each other as long as they did. A-Rod's time in NY and Damon's time in Boston only overlapped by a couple of years and A-Rod was considered an interloper for years (as was Damon) so the idea that they would hit it off isn't surprising.
RE: slightly  
GIANTSr01 : 7/17/2014 4:09 pm : link
In comment 11771274 MookGiants said:
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off topic but I'm surprised it hasn't been in the press at all today.

Heard Johnny Damon on Buster Olney's podcast yesterday while I was in the car. Buster asked him who the best teammates he ever had were. He named 4, Mike Sweeney, Jermaine Dye, Jason Giambi, and Alex Rodriguez. Didn't mention Jeter at all. I thought Buster did a poor job of not following up and asking him about Jeter as a teammate. He was raving about ARod as a teammate


Did the 5 of them share needles?
RE: Last I hear, Pineda was throwing from a mound  
mitch300 : 7/17/2014 4:19 pm : link
In comment 11771254 BeerFridge said:
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not much more. Mid august at the earliest and the will be super cautious.

Well at least he has progressed to throwing off a mound.It's a start. I would love for him to come back and see what he can do.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 4:34 pm : link
Pete Abraham ţ@PeteAbe · 6m
#Yankees signed 15th round pick LHP Andrew Chin of Boston College. RS sophomore and Newton native was weekend starter. (per @BCBirdBall)

In the first 20 rounds...  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 4:36 pm : link
they have signed 18 of their 19 picks, with only 17th rounder Garrett Cave unsigned. He likely will not sign. They may ink a couple more small deals, but I'd be surprised of Toffey or Cave inked.
Jake Cave  
Phil in LA : 7/17/2014 6:44 pm : link
doubled in his first AA ab. He's batter first and playing CF. Mason Williams drove him in and is batting 2nd and DHing.
Sherman with a worthwhile read (it pains me to type that)  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 8:40 pm : link
about the emergence of Severino.
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eh  
Phil in LA : 7/17/2014 9:08 pm : link
Scout readers had heard of him by then.
Clarkin is pitching  
Phil in LA : 7/17/2014 9:09 pm : link
now. O'Neill has already singled and stolen another base. He's turning into something.
Clarkin only pitched 2 innings  
Phil in LA : 7/17/2014 9:35 pm : link
gave up no hits, no walks and K'd 3. I guess they're starting him back slowly, but he was sharp.
the two OPS leaders on the Staten Island Yanks are both  
Del Shofner : 7/17/2014 9:36 pm : link
catchers.
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RE: eh  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 9:42 pm : link
In comment 11771670 Phil in LA said:
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Scout readers had heard of him by then.


Yeah and $225 is not an insignificant bonus, he was a name signing that year. But let's not let the facts get in the way of a good story...
Torrens is "rehabbing" from Charleston...  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 9:50 pm : link
and Tejeda is on his fourth stint at SI.

Aune hit his first HR today and is up to .245 on the year (OPS is probably in the .670s now). He still has a ways to go but its the first sign of progress he has shown in 24 months.
A couple highlights from draft picks...  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 9:59 pm : link
Jordan Foley went 3.2, 5 H 2 R 2 ER 0 BB 7 Ks 1 HR. Interesting line.

Jonathan Holder went 3.1 IP 4 H 2 R 2 ER 1 BB 4 Ks.
I noticed that about Aune  
Phil in LA : 7/17/2014 10:00 pm : link
maybe he's waking up.

Tejeda is still pretty young and could start moving after his good showing in SI. He initially looked like a bonus prospect a few years ago.
Clarkin with a brief start...  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 10:01 pm : link
2 IP zeroes 3 K.
I mentioned that earlier  
Phil in LA : 7/17/2014 10:04 pm : link
he was dealing and getting squeezed again. They appealed two or three pitches.
With less than 24 hours to go, this is what is left...  
Dunedin81 : 7/17/2014 10:57 pm : link
17th round Garrett Cave - probably don't have the $ to sign him
21st round Porter Clayton - will either sign or go to a college close to his home in Utah
22nd round Jake Kelzer - says he is going back to school
23rd round Will Toffey - probably don't have the $
25th round Dylan Barrow - he's probably the best chance we have at a meaningful 11th hour signing
29th round Mo Jr. - could sign, could go back to school, who knows?
30th round Jorge Perez - IDFK, don't know where he is pitching this summer (if he is) or how he is doing.
32nd round Jordan Ramsey - Says is going back to school
33rd round David Graybill - signing plans really aren't clear
35th round Chris Hudgens - probably goes to college
36th round William Gaddis - probably goes to college
39th round Cameron Warren - probably goes to college
40th round Madison Stokes - says is going to college
RE: A couple highlights from draft picks...  
GIANTSr01 : 7/18/2014 8:25 am : link
In comment 11771729 Dunedin81 said:
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Jordan Foley went 3.2, 5 H 2 R 2 ER 0 BB 7 Ks 1 HR. Interesting line.

Jonathan Holder went 3.1 IP 4 H 2 R 2 ER 1 BB 4 Ks.


You forgot Lindgren, who struck out the side in his 1 IP in Tampa!

Don't look now, but Andujar is starting to figure things out in Charleston. Still only 19. After a poor April and a horrid May (.182/.229/.293), he's been raking in July (.362/.456/.532) and his season numbers are creeping up to respectability. Hopefully he finishes strong and starts next year off in Tampa (though at least 1 of DBJ and/or Jagielo would likely need a promo to make room).

Banuelos made another start in Trenton, but did not fare well. Hopefully he can stay healthy and start shaking off some of the rust.
Andujar is red-hot...  
Dunedin81 : 7/18/2014 8:30 am : link
he still needs to figure out how to hit lefties, but he is doing well on the whole over the last month plus.

Banuelos had a rocky first, settled down for the rest of the outing though. This year is going to be a(nother) lost year for him, next year he'll swim or he'll sink and become a 40-man question mark.
.  
Del Shofner : 7/18/2014 10:11 am : link
Sherman article on Severino.
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...  
Dunedin81 : 7/18/2014 11:52 am : link
StatenIslandYankees ţ@SIYanks · 15m
ROSTER UPDATE: LHP Jordan Montgomery- @Gumbynation34- 2014 4th rd pick from @GamecockBasebll, has been assigned to the Staten Island roster.

Put up a new article  
Phil in LA : 7/18/2014 12:35 pm : link
about the system.
Phil  
Dunedin81 : 7/18/2014 12:44 pm : link
I'm cut off from PinstripesPlus during the day, any news about potential 11th hour signs?
No news  
Phil in LA : 7/18/2014 12:47 pm : link
from PP.


Here's my blog update on the system
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I'll post anything  
Phil in LA : 7/18/2014 12:47 pm : link
that comes up on the signings.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/18/2014 1:21 pm : link
J.P. ţ@Jaypers413 · 14m
Ty Hensley's GCL line today - 3 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 0 BB, 7 K. #Nice #Yankees @jnorris427

RE: No news  
Del Shofner : 7/18/2014 1:23 pm : link
In comment 11772194 Phil in LA said:
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from PP.


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Nice write-up.
Thanks  
Phil in LA : 7/18/2014 1:51 pm : link
the system is bouncing back.
NY Magazine...  
Dunedin81 : 7/18/2014 2:03 pm : link
with a quick look at some of the 7/2 guys, not just ours. It's a little off-putting to see glamour shots of teenage boys in a magazine not geared for teenage girls, but it's still worth a quick read.
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RE: ...  
BeerFridge : 7/18/2014 2:13 pm : link
In comment 11772240 Dunedin81 said:
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J.P. ţ@Jaypers413 · 14m
Ty Hensley's GCL line today - 3 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 0 BB, 7 K. #Nice #Yankees @jnorris427


Heh. I totally forgot about that guy.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/18/2014 4:17 pm : link

Hot Dog AD (IBC cards): Would you agree that Luis severino is the best Yankees pitching prospect of the last decade?
Ben Badler: No. At the time they were prospects, Joba and Hughes were ahead of where Severino is now.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/18/2014 4:19 pm : link
Andrew Brotherton (Atlanta, GA): What do you think of Aaron Judge? Is he what you expected? More/Less? I didn't expect the plate discipline.

Ben Badler: Much better than I expected. You don't see many long-armed hitters like him with his plate coverage and ability to square the ball up with the frequency he's shown, along with the leverage and strength to clear the fence like he can.

Aaron Doorman (Riverboat): Luis Torrins, Andrew Romine or Jr Murphy?

Ben Badler: Torrens all day. If the receiving and blocking come along, and I expect they will, he's their catcher of the future.

Ryan (Brick, NJ): Why is Gary Sanchez so highly regarded? I know he's still young for his league, but he's never really had a monster season yet.

Ben Badler: Two power tools in his arm strength and raw power at a premium position, but I do think his value is overstated.


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40 minutes till the deadline  
Phil in LA : 7/18/2014 4:21 pm : link
and no new signing news yet.
I don't think that comparison is THAT far off  
Greg from LI : 7/18/2014 4:28 pm : link
Joba hadn't thrown a professional pitch yet at age 20. Severino's stats are close to Hughes' age 20 season, although Hughes was a level ahead.
Just talked to someone  
Phil in LA : 7/18/2014 4:47 pm : link
looks like Chin is it, unless someone changes their mind in the last 15 minutes. They put out a bunch of 100K offers, but they were all turned down.
from klaw chat  
sinctybldh : 7/18/2014 5:18 pm : link
Mike (Hackensack NJ)

Bichette still a np? I'm trying not to read too much into the stat line but its way better than last year.
Klaw (2:07 PM)

Correct. Yeah, better than last year, but still not good - and a good chunk of his production came in the first few weeks of the season, before pitchers adjusted to him. Also can't play third.

james (NJ)

Is Severino being rushed? And when should Judge be promoted? Thanks Keith!
Klaw (2:07 PM)

Yes, and no rush on Judge. Maybe give him a few weeks in Trenton to the end the year, or offer to send him to Fall League if he's not too worn out.
eh, a good chunk of DBJ's production  
GIANTSr01 : 7/18/2014 5:31 pm : link
has come in the last 3-4 weeks. .880 OPS in July. He still might not be able to play 3B, but those comments sound like they're from someone who hasn't seen DBJ in 2 months.
KLaw is glib  
Phil in LA : 7/18/2014 5:33 pm : link
but the king of small sample judgements.
Severino making his  
Phil in LA : 7/19/2014 7:15 pm : link
AA debut after the commercial.
Through 5 he's  
Phil in LA : 7/19/2014 8:34 pm : link
5ip. 2 hits, 1 walk, 1 run and 6K.
That was all for him  
Phil in LA : 7/19/2014 9:04 pm : link
retired the last 12 he faced. Hit 98 on the gun.
Great outing against a good Binghamton lineup  
Dunedin81 : 7/19/2014 9:32 pm : link
first-inning jitters and then settled down for an effective, efficient five-inning stint. Not sure where his pitch count was but I'm sure they're starting to slow him down, probably only another 4-5 starts as it is.
Caleb Smith and Sean Carley  
Phil in LA : 7/19/2014 9:41 pm : link
also pitched really well tonight.
Smith battled in his last inning...  
Dunedin81 : 7/19/2014 9:54 pm : link
an error (Jagielo), a single and a walk, but he got out of it with a K. Otherwise nobody got past first base (someone tried and was gunned out by Aaron Judge).
What I dread happening to Severino  
Phil in LA : 7/19/2014 10:40 pm : link
other than a stupid trade, is that next year when he's still not full stretched out, they throw him in the MLB bullpen to get to his innings quota.
Phil  
MookGiants : 7/19/2014 11:25 pm : link
you know they will do something ridiculously stupid like that. You would think they would learn after the handling of Joba and Hughes, but I doubt they have. Too many idiots running this organization
They better have learned their lesson from messing with  
sinctybldh : 7/20/2014 12:52 am : link
Joba and Hughes. Severino better not dare sniff being a relief pitcher. The worst thing that can happen next year is the Yankees view themselves as contenders and need an extra arm to put in their pen for the stretch run and call upon Severino.
they definitely screwed up Joba  
Phil in LA : 7/20/2014 1:21 am : link
but Hughes screwed up Hughes more than they did. He started being an arm thrower after he got hurt during his no-hit bid in Texas. Never went back to dropping and driving so he went from being a K/groundball guy as a minor leaguer to being a K/flyball guy, because all of his pitches were up, relative to where they had been as an elite minor leaguer.
If he makes it past the deadline...  
Dunedin81 : 7/20/2014 6:51 am : link
he'll probably debut as a Yankee. Not this year, both because he's out of innings and because of the 40-man issue, but hopefully next year, when his innings cap should be 150-160.
Austin 2/4 as part of an otherwise crappy effort for Trenton...  
Dunedin81 : 7/20/2014 3:54 pm : link
14/39 over his last 10 games, up to .263 on the season (was well under .250 just a week ago). Hopefully this is the sign of him getting it rather than just a flukey few weeks, but it's still pretty positive. Power numbers need to come too, but he's hitting well enough that he'll probably start next season in Scranton.
I know next to nothing about Justin Kamplain  
Dunedin81 : 7/21/2014 12:19 pm : link
other than that he was our 18th round pick, but he threw 4 perfect innings for SI this morning with 5 Ks.
Isn't he the lefty reliever from Alabama?  
Phil in LA : 7/21/2014 1:04 pm : link
I remember they said they might start some of the relievers...
Phil  
Dunedin81 : 7/21/2014 1:06 pm : link
He was a weekend starter I believe. Holder is being tried as a starter after having been Mississippi State's closer (the DRob to Lindgren's Betances).
I guess he's another one of our  
Phil in LA : 7/21/2014 1:11 pm : link
pitch-ability lefties.
Clarkin pitched 3 innings of 1 run ball  
Phil in LA : 7/21/2014 2:57 pm : link
in relief of Encinas today. Gave up 2 hits, and a walk will striking out 4.
The Charleston announcer said his curveball...  
Dunedin81 : 7/21/2014 2:59 pm : link
had been a lot more effective of late because he was throwing it harder, so it was less of a looping curve. First I had seen of that.
This is probably more Mets news than Yankees, but...  
Dunedin81 : 7/21/2014 3:03 pm : link
timdierkes ţ@timdierkes · 1h
Just learned a change was made to protect 1st round picks of the teams with the 10 worst records, regardless of the "top ten" wording.

Payton has hit his  
Phil in LA : 7/21/2014 3:17 pm : link
first pro homer.
Payton has also taken most of the reps at CF...  
Dunedin81 : 7/21/2014 3:23 pm : link
since signing. It seems like they view Fowler as a RF now.
We'll see  
Phil in LA : 7/21/2014 3:36 pm : link
Fowler has better speed.
Big Start for DePaula  
Phil in LA : 7/21/2014 4:38 pm : link
today. He's had 5 good ones in a row, and his ERA is heading toward decent.
Payton has done what you expected when you draft him:  
BeerFridge : 7/21/2014 4:54 pm : link
get hits. He's not a great prospect but seems a good bet to be a 4th OF/pinch hit guy.
Gary Sanchez hit his 10th  
Dunedin81 : 7/21/2014 6:54 pm : link
...
Segedin up to AAA  
Phil in LA : 7/21/2014 7:08 pm : link
will Dante or Jags move up to AA?
DBJ makes more sense  
Dunedin81 : 7/21/2014 7:34 pm : link
...
I agree  
Phil in LA : 7/21/2014 8:40 pm : link
but they're both playing for Tampa tonight.
RDP 5.1 IP, 4 H 1 R 1 ER 3 BB 7 Ks...  
Dunedin81 : 7/21/2014 11:18 pm : link
two of those hits came in the 6th. He has been very, very good outside of a handful of starts this year.
Baseball America  
Ash : 7/21/2014 11:22 pm : link
with a very positive article (complete with a scouting report) on Refsnyder: here.

It gives us some rationale (however bad it might be) why the Yanks are sticking with Roberts at 2b. I figure from this article that the plan long-term is to have Refsnyder at 2b but for the purposes of injecting some life into the lineup, they'd bring him up as a RF this year, if they did so at all. I like that Cashman's first preference is to have Refsnyder stay at AAA all year while getting reps at 2b (though I wish they'd give him solely 2b time).
I read that...  
Dunedin81 : 7/21/2014 11:31 pm : link
but even if Roberts has a solid line-drive rate he isn't hitting, and tonight he made mistakes in the field. The idea that the Yanks have a need at 2B isn't just a thought that has occurred to prospect-huggers, I think Kurkjian noted it tonight.
Lyerly might make it before  
Phil in LA : 7/22/2014 1:27 am : link
Refs at the rate their going, and it's a joke the Roller's not up with the number of games Tex misses, and Beltran misses and AB's others should miss.
Refsnyder with another start in RF  
GIANTSr01 : 7/22/2014 8:15 am : link
though he moved to 2B later in the game. He's also cooled off considerably at the plate. In July: .222/.291/.375 (18 games) so he's not exactly forcing his way onto the team right now. Granted he's still likely a better option than Roberts.

O'Brien went 5-7 (2 2B, 1 HR) combined in the DH. He's been hitting much better in July after a horrid June.

Austin singled in both games and his hit streak is now at 8 games. His average is creeping up to respectability but the power still isn't there.

RDP over his last 6 games:  
GIANTSr01 : 7/22/2014 8:22 am : link
33:10 K:BB, 33.2 IP, 5 ER (1.34 ERA), 24 H (1.01 WHIP). It'll be interesting to see if he gets a handful of starts in Trenton before the year is out.
He should...  
Dunedin81 : 7/22/2014 9:43 am : link
he isn't old but he isn't young either (23), they understandably want to see if he's a starter but if not he has a Betances-like reliever profile as a potential stud.
Leonardo Molina with his first stateside HR  
Dunedin81 : 7/22/2014 2:45 pm : link
...
DePaula was looking better  
Phil in LA : 7/22/2014 2:50 pm : link
but he was a little old and had trouble with fastball control, as well as mound presence issues.

Now he's gone, and Omar Luis, though left handed, takes his place as our high upside fastball guy who's had a career interruption.
Yeah I was fine with losing RDP...  
Dunedin81 : 7/22/2014 2:54 pm : link
but he's still a good prospect. One of the Yankee blogerati said "Wooten, Long and Severino all passed him in the system" though which annoyed me. Wooten is a NP and Long is fringey even if he has been effective. The fact that they're at AA and he isn't/wasn't doesn't mean they passed him in esteem, he still has more talent in one pitch than they have in three or four. Severino of course is another story, but some of these guys just don't know what they're talking about.
Well, it's talent vs. production  
Phil in LA : 7/22/2014 3:09 pm : link
in Severino and Clarkin you have talent and production. In long you have production. In Lail you have a bit of both. I DePaula you had more talent than production at 23. On principle I don't like giving up on a power arm, but he had fastball control shit, and I'd rather have guys who don't. Still I was in no rush to trade him,
This has been a terrific thread  
dune69 : 7/22/2014 8:29 pm : link
since the day it started. Some of us love the Yanks but don't follow the farm this closely. It is fun to read and learn about our young guys. Thanks Dunedin, Phil, et. al.
Manny Banuelos had his best AA start post surgery tonight  
Phil in LA : 7/22/2014 8:30 pm : link
going 5ip, 2H 0R 5K.
Bird apparently hit his 6th HR over the OF fence...  
Dunedin81 : 7/22/2014 8:49 pm : link
and into a tree. He has been "disappointing" and DBJ has (rightly) gotten a lot of praise but Bird's season OPS is probably higher after this.
Bird is coming around  
Phil in LA : 7/22/2014 9:41 pm : link
as has been Tyler Austin.
One of the posters on PP brought this up...  
Dunedin81 : 7/22/2014 10:11 pm : link
a DSL catcher who turns 19 in a week was just called up to the GCL. Algeni Mateo has been killing the DSL, .373/.418/.602 with 10 XBH so far. Interesting to see what happens with him. The other Mateo the Yanks sent to the GCl this year has been pretty successful (of course he is on the shelf right now).
Those midseason  
Phil in LA : 7/22/2014 11:26 pm : link
international call ups are usually pretty interesting. Did they send down lesser Jesus with the double digit BA?
Fowler to the DL  
Dunedin81 : 7/24/2014 4:26 pm : link
Avelino off of it. Good on one hand, bad on the other.
Also SS prospect ANgel Aguilar with his 4th HR...  
Dunedin81 : 7/24/2014 4:27 pm : link
had a pretty vicious slump but is back up to .287 on the year. He's a solid prospect too.
Severino gave up a leadoff single  
Phil in LA : 7/24/2014 7:18 pm : link
then Nimmo went to second on a PB as Severino K'd the next three. Cave just doubled.
Austin and Bird each homered...  
Dunedin81 : 7/24/2014 9:36 pm : link
Bird was 2-3 with a BB and is up to .281, Austin is up to .266. Bird was flagging a bit at the beginning of the season and is coming around, while this is the best Austin has done in any stretch since the start of last year.

Also Caleb Smith with an excellent outing, 6 IP 2 H 1 R 1 ER 0 BB and 5 Ks.
Bird and Austin  
Phil in LA : 7/24/2014 10:00 pm : link
have been returning to form at the same time. Some of the young players on Charleston are having encouraging second halves , too.
Why was Judge  
Phil in LA : 7/24/2014 10:02 pm : link
off tonight?
Tyler Wade had a great night...  
Dunedin81 : 7/24/2014 10:05 pm : link
he is up in the .280's. His ISOP is well-nigh single-digits, but he's doing pretty well on the whole. If you're good enough at it and your glove is solid or better you can be a singles hitter at short.
He's also young for league  
Phil in LA : 7/24/2014 10:07 pm : link
and in a park that seems particularly tough on lefties.
Article on Severino's start  
Dunedin81 : 7/24/2014 10:17 pm : link
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I really hope this is a figment of Bowden's imagination...  
Dunedin81 : 7/24/2014 11:03 pm : link
JIM BOWDEN ‏@JimBowdenESPNxm 3m

Yankees & Padres discussing deal that would send Ian Kennedy to Yankees in exchange for Eric Jagielo and Ian Clarkin according to a source
Tweet from Jim Bowden  
Pego61 : 7/24/2014 11:03 pm : link
"Yankees & Padres discussing deal that would send Ian Kennedy to Yankees in exchange for Eric Jagielo and Ian Clarkin according to a source"

FUCK NO. I like Kennedy. I am not giving that much up for Kennedy. I don't even want to give up one of them.
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A homer-prone starter whose last three OPS+'s...  
Dunedin81 : 7/24/2014 11:05 pm : link
are 101, 76 and 94. He would struggle to crack 100 at YS. Terrible, terrible idea.
ERA+ rather  
Dunedin81 : 7/24/2014 11:07 pm : link
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...  
Dunedin81 : 7/24/2014 11:10 pm : link
Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 2m

yankees are interested in kennedy but not in clarkin plus jagielo for kennedy.
They  
mitch300 : 7/24/2014 11:35 pm : link
Figure with Whitley reaching his innings limit they. Must find a replacement.
Bowden is insane  
Phil in LA : 7/24/2014 11:49 pm : link
he really is.

Meanwhile, I wonder if Eppler and a medium prospect would be the compensation for Eppler.


They tried to get comp for Sabean back in the day, but that wasn't in season.
If they trade anything for a pitcher  
Kulish29 : 7/25/2014 1:58 am : link
who had one fluke fucking season and cant pitch in a park as big as fucking Yellowstone, I'll be pissed.

Ian Kennedy is not a good pitcher.
Phil  
Dunedin81 : 7/25/2014 7:21 am : link
I can't see us getting consideration for Eppler as it wouldn't be a lateral move but a promotion. If they demand compensation it'll make it harder for us to get talented front office people to come work in secondary roles.
Sanchez quietly has a 9 game hit streak  
GIANTSr01 : 7/25/2014 8:24 am : link
though only 1 XBH during that time.

Austin with back-to-back games with a HR. Hitting .417/.436/.694 over his last 10. Hopefully it's a sign he's finally over his wrist injury and not just a SSS.

Bird's got an 8 game hit streak with 3 2B, 3 HR, and 6:4 BB:K over that span.
Dunedin  
Phil in LA : 7/25/2014 8:43 am : link
I think you're thinking of the football assistant coaching rule. They sought it for Brian Sabean, don't remember what they settled on, but that was during the offseason and this is during the season where giving up a front office asset could hurt.
RE: Sanchez quietly has a 9 game hit streak  
Dunedin81 : 7/25/2014 9:19 am : link
In comment 11780904 GIANTSr01 said:
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though only 1 XBH during that time.

Austin with back-to-back games with a HR. Hitting .417/.436/.694 over his last 10. Hopefully it's a sign he's finally over his wrist injury and not just a SSS.

Bird's got an 8 game hit streak with 3 2B, 3 HR, and 6:4 BB:K over that span.


Yeah the three of them are hitting well and if they can keep it up it'll be a real positive. I've said it a few times but on the whole this has been a pretty good year for the farm. A couple injuries (Campos, Heathcott) and some nonperformance (Mason Williams) but most of the prospects have performed at or above expectations and some have blown them out of the water.
BTW Jordan Montgomery pitched 2 scoreless...  
Dunedin81 : 7/25/2014 11:05 am : link
in his SI debut.
Greg Bird at #12 on the BA Hot Sheet  
Dunedin81 : 7/25/2014 12:34 pm : link
Tyler Austin in the team photo.
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Sickels on Refsnyder  
Dunedin81 : 7/25/2014 12:52 pm : link
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Hensley and DeCarr with two scoreless each today...  
Dunedin81 : 7/25/2014 3:04 pm : link
DeCarr gave up a hit and K'ed 2, Hensley gave up 2 H and 4 BBs (2 Ks) and still managed to avoid giving up a run.
Josh Norris Chat  
Dunedin81 : 7/25/2014 3:52 pm : link
Love for Severino & Torrens, mention of Judge that isn't necessarily negative.
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Andujar is  
Phil in LA : 7/25/2014 8:05 pm : link
on fire. Hit another homer and I think he either had a single or a double earlier.
Recap of the workout for the Cuban OF Castillo  
Dunedin81 : 7/27/2014 10:22 am : link
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Yankees had 4 scouts  
sinctybldh : 7/27/2014 12:01 pm : link
on hand to watch him. I could see them making a big play for him.
I think they will make a  
Phil in LA : 7/27/2014 12:09 pm : link
big play for him.
Lail is at 108 IP, may just be innings control...  
Dunedin81 : 7/27/2014 12:53 pm : link
Nick Flammia ‏@TYRadioGuy 36m

Roster moves for the @TampaYankees: LHP Francisco Rondon to Trenton. RHP Brady Lail to DL. RHPs Jaron Long (AA) and Jose Pena (GCL) to Tampa
Austin had another big day yesterday  
Greg from LI : 7/27/2014 6:10 pm : link
4-4. I'm getting a bit giddy.
He was 0-4 today...  
Dunedin81 : 7/27/2014 6:13 pm : link
the first bad game he's had in awhile. Cave though was 3-4 and a 2B short of a cycle.
MLB.com's midseason Top 20  
Dunedin81 : 7/27/2014 9:59 pm : link
Severino
Sanchez
Jagielo
Clarkin
Judge
Refsnyder
Cave
Banuelos
O'Brien
Lindgren
Torrens
Greene
Bird
Katoh
Ramirez
Flores
Austin
Heathcott
Williams
Mateo
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It seems like  
dune69 : 7/27/2014 10:08 pm : link
this list is more full of potential, with position players, than past years. With this years draft and IFA haul, our minors should begin to strengthen. Let's hope they don't change the IFA rules for a few more years.
A lot of good players on that list...  
Dunedin81 : 7/27/2014 10:11 pm : link
but it's still a shitty list. Judge has shown more this year than Jagielo has and he's nowhere near topped out for power potential. Miguel Andujar is a glaring omission as over the last six weeks he has shown solid tools across the board as a 19 year old at Low A.
Andujar is showing  
dune69 : 7/27/2014 10:20 pm : link
terrific power. Hope he can stay healthy. Health has been a problem for some of these kids like Austin and Heathcott. I am not smart enough to know the order the list should be, only that we have some promise with many of these kids. Hope we sign the Cuban, though his performance in front of scouts sounded like good timing and a surprising show of power.
Andujar is showing  
dune69 : 7/27/2014 10:20 pm : link
terrific power. Hope he can stay healthy. Health has been a problem for some of these kids like Austin and Heathcott. I am not smart enough to know the order the list should be, only that we have some promise with many of these kids. Hope we sign the Cuban, though his performance in front of scouts sounded like good timing and a surprising show of power.
Ooops  
dune69 : 7/27/2014 10:21 pm : link
..
Avelino is also an omission...  
Dunedin81 : 7/27/2014 10:22 pm : link
and Dustin Fowler easily could have been on there. I sound like a broken record saying that it's a deep farm, but it is. And while Severino is getting to the end of his 2014 innings he and Severino (forget this list) along with Sanchez give us a trio of legit top prospects for the first time in a few years, all of whom will likely start 2015 at AA or higher.
Let's hope Cashman  
dune69 : 7/27/2014 10:25 pm : link
leaves them here, to develop. I think he will if the higher F.O. types stay out of it.
There are a bunch  
Phil in LA : 7/28/2014 2:33 am : link
off omissions, Dunedin, and you caught some of the big ones. Judge is well over Jagielo at this point.
RE: Yankees had 4 scouts  
BeerFridge : 7/28/2014 8:48 am : link
In comment 11782889 sinctybldh said:
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on hand to watch him. I could see them making a big play for him.


it's about time they got in on one of these guys. It makes me a bit nuts that they've seemed to not be able to spend on any of these players. How good would Cespedes, Puig or Abreu look in pinstripes now? We'll probably get this guy and he'll suck.
Mateo  
Chaka : 7/28/2014 8:52 am : link
really excites me

wish he was healthy .... because i think he could really flay thru the system
Yeah the delays might mean Mateo stays in short-season...  
Dunedin81 : 7/28/2014 11:35 am : link
next year. That would be unfortunate. Avelino needs to show enough to get a promotion to Tampa, then you should have Estrada and Aguilar at Charleston. That's a lot of SS prospects at the lower levels. They won't all click, but if just one or two do it'd be huge for the big club.
BA's daily prospect report...  
Dunedin81 : 7/28/2014 4:03 pm : link
features not one but two Yankees as pitcher and hitter of the day, Bryan Mitchell and Jake Cave.
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Mateo will probably get to move up  
Phil in LA : 7/28/2014 4:06 pm : link
with good instructs and good camp. He was already too good for the GCL.
Brayan Hernandez signs with Mariners for $1.8  
RobotGhost : 7/28/2014 7:20 pm : link
Last of the consensus Top 10 guys to sign, but he had been connected to SEA pre-J2 so no surprise.
SI or Charleston?  
Dunedin81 : 7/28/2014 10:56 pm : link
Ian Clarkin ţ@iClarkin 1m

Congratulations to my brotha @TyHensley17 #HammerCity moving right on up!
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/29/2014 8:57 am : link
Marci Hensley ţ@mhensley17 · 1h
My boy is on his way to Staten Island to finally after so much begin his journey to the Big Leagues! So thankful. Love you Ty Ty Hensley!

Dan Pfeiffer from The Examiner...  
Dunedin81 : 7/29/2014 9:22 am : link
with his Top 15 prospects. The info is a little dated (a week or two old) but the rankings make more sense than MLB.com's.
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Speaking of 80 grades...  
Dunedin81 : 7/29/2014 3:32 pm : link
Nick Flammia ţ@TYRadioGuy · 2m
The @TampaYankees place OF Claudio Custodio on the DL and activate OF Yeicok Calderon from the DL.


Custodio is close. 21/23 on SBs this year, had 29 singles and 8 walks so he stole around 2/3 of the time he was on 1B. He probably stole third a few times but then again he probably had runners on 2B a couple of the times he didn't go.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/29/2014 6:08 pm : link
Meredith Marakovits ţ@M_Marakovits 4m

Pineda will make a start sun officially starting his rehab clock. Expected to throw 60-65 pitches. Not sure where start will be yet #yankees
Severino pitching again in about  
Phil in LA : 7/29/2014 6:14 pm : link
45 mins.
I hope  
sinctybldh : 7/29/2014 6:19 pm : link
Pineda doesn't break a nail.
Norbody's missing from any of the  
Phil in LA : 7/29/2014 7:04 pm : link
minor league lineups tonight.
Severion two scoreless, hitless  
Phil in LA : 7/29/2014 8:05 pm : link
2K BB. Berrios left injured with two out in the bottom of the second, so I hope he's okay. Tampa and Texas scouts at the game.
Severino goes 5.2  
Phil in LA : 7/29/2014 9:07 pm : link
two hits, one a bunt, one a triple. One unearned run. 2 walks and 7 K's.
Severino 5.2 IP 2 H 1 R 0 ER 2 BB 7 Ks  
Dunedin81 : 7/29/2014 9:11 pm : link
..
Is there an echo  
Phil in LA : 7/29/2014 9:30 pm : link
in here?
Started typing...  
Dunedin81 : 7/29/2014 9:41 pm : link
waited for his line to finalize (for Goody to get out of the inning). Sorry bout that.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/29/2014 10:49 pm : link
CJ Wittmann @CJWittJr · 3h

#yankess Severino 93-96; downhill, explosive. CH 84-86; good arm action, arm-side fade. SL 84-87; small breaker, tight.
...  
Dunedin81 : 7/30/2014 10:01 am : link
StatenIslandYankees ţ@SIYanks · 6m
ROSTER UPDATE: LHP Justin Kamplain has been transferred to @ChasRiverDogs. RHP Ty Hensley & LHP Andrew Chin have been added to the SI roster

Camarena with a strong outing...  
Dunedin81 : 7/30/2014 1:51 pm : link
6 IP 5 H 1 R 1 ER 1 BB 6 K. Two solid starts at AA in a row for the kid after a couple shoddy ones when he was first promoted.
Yanks said to be interested in the Cuban OF Castillo  
Dunedin81 : 7/30/2014 1:56 pm : link
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Also O'Brien went big fly again...  
Dunedin81 : 7/30/2014 1:59 pm : link
32 on the year, the next most in the org is Teix with 18
Sorry Roller has 19  
Dunedin81 : 7/30/2014 2:01 pm : link
..
Taking a shot at Castillo makes a lot of sense.  
BeerFridge : 7/30/2014 2:02 pm : link
1) It's not my money.
2) They're looking for OF help as it is.
Simon De La Rosa  
Phil in LA : 7/30/2014 2:03 pm : link
should also be promoted.
Yeah the link used a Cespedes comp with more speed...  
Dunedin81 : 7/30/2014 2:03 pm : link
and a little less power. Sign me up for $35 mil of someone else's money.
Make that 2 for O'Brien...  
Dunedin81 : 7/30/2014 2:33 pm : link
33 on the season, one behind Shelley Duncan and his 34 during his age 25 season at AA.
I'll always have a place in my heart for Shelley Duncan  
Greg from LI : 7/30/2014 2:40 pm : link
hey  
sinctybldh : 7/30/2014 4:54 pm : link
do any of u guys have facebook? I have a Yankees group online and would love to have some of you guys join in and make our conversations even better. You can email me at sinctybldh@gmail.com if you are interested in becoming friends on facebook and joining the group.
Jagielo is not in the Tampa lineup tonight  
Phil in LA : 7/30/2014 6:39 pm : link
they had Dante DHing and Rosario playing 3rd.
RE: Jagielo is not in the Tampa lineup tonight  
yatqb : 7/30/2014 6:43 pm : link
In comment 11787426 Phil in LA said:
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they had Dante DHing and Rosario playing 3rd.


Oh, boy!
Bird standup triple to dead center  
Dunedin81 : 7/30/2014 7:11 pm : link
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Dunedin81 : 7/30/2014 7:22 pm : link
Nick Flammia ţ@TYRadioGuy 4h

The @TampaYankees send RHPJhon Morban back to the GCL. RHP Philip Walby (Phillip @ASAP_Walby) transferred from Low-A @ChasRiverDogs to Tampa
Ty Hensley with his debut in SI tonight...  
Dunedin81 : 7/30/2014 10:49 pm : link
per his mother he was at 95. 2.2 IP 2 H 2 R 2 ER 1 BB 4 K

Trouble in the first inning, escaped with limited damage thanks to a Luis Torrens snap throw, then set down the final five guys he faced, including three in a row by strikeout.
Not awful  
Phil in LA : 7/31/2014 2:30 am : link
made an adjustment.
RE: Bird standup triple to dead center  
BeerFridge : 7/31/2014 9:17 am : link
In comment 11787450 Dunedin81 said:
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I thought he was slow as hell.
He's certainly not fast...  
Dunedin81 : 7/31/2014 9:24 am : link
he hit it off the base of the wall and it caromed back past the CF.
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Dunedin81 : 7/31/2014 11:06 am : link
Tampa Yankees ‏@TampaYankees · 2m
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LHP @JLindgren19 after 5 TY games (6.1 IP, 3H, 1R, 4BB, 13K). 2014 Totals: 0.73 ERA, 12.1 IP, 6H, 2R, 1ER, 4BB, 26K.

DeCarr a solid outing today...  
Dunedin81 : 7/31/2014 1:05 pm : link
3 IP 2 H 0 R 2 BB 3 Ks. One disaster of an outing this year has accounted for 4 of the 6 ER he has surrendered, otherwise he has been pretty good.
he was my favorite pick in this year's draft  
sinctybldh : 7/31/2014 1:10 pm : link
I am so happy he is off to a great start in his career.
Chris Cabrera another nice GCL outing...  
Dunedin81 : 7/31/2014 3:07 pm : link
2 IP 1 H 0 R 2 BB 4 Ks. 0.00 ERA on the season. Not sure if he's still a prospect.
Guys, did Bryan Emery ever sign with someone?  
yatqb : 7/31/2014 5:19 pm : link
.
havent heard emery  
sinctybldh : 7/31/2014 6:18 pm : link
signing with anyone. It is kind of strange to me that he is still out there. I really hope Yankees are all in on him.
Yanks should sign Castillo  
Phil in LA : 7/31/2014 10:13 pm : link
also, they should extend Robertson, and run everyone through waivers, in the event that they get bad news on Tanaka and decide to sell.
Presumably Boston will be less willing...  
Dunedin81 : 7/31/2014 10:26 pm : link
to pay $35-$40 mil for an OF after getting Cespedes and having JBJ and Betts.
Yup  
Phil in LA : 7/31/2014 10:38 pm : link
but we shouldn't be.
16th rounder Derek Callahan will start for Tampa...  
Dunedin81 : 7/31/2014 10:38 pm : link
per his twitter. Remains to be seen whether it's a spot start or not.
Long had another good AA start  
Phil in LA : 7/31/2014 10:45 pm : link
tonight.
Callahan sounds like he's just  
Phil in LA : 7/31/2014 10:54 pm : link
at the complex. They did it the other day, too.
RE: Callahan sounds like he's just  
Dunedin81 : 7/31/2014 10:59 pm : link
In comment 11789387 Phil in LA said:
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at the complex. They did it the other day, too.


Phil, this is from his instagram: "Blessed to start for the High A Tampa Yankees tomorrow night. #chaseyourdreams #Yankees"
Maybe they're telling him it's an audition  
Phil in LA : 7/31/2014 11:01 pm : link
but they wouldn't skip him from GCL to FSL unless he was throwing 100 and had not allowed a hit this season. He hasn't been that dominant. But, maybe, as with Long, they'll see if he can do it. Otherwise, back to the GCL or SI.
Yeah this is a spot start...  
Dunedin81 : 7/31/2014 11:13 pm : link
but still a nice opportunity for the kid.
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