Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 17m
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Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 17m
Also, new #Giant LB Terrell Manning has been given No. 63. #NYG
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 1m
Doesn't appear as if Snee is working out. Giants line from left to right- Brown, Schwartz, Walton, Mosley and Pugh #Giants #BBI #NYG
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 1m
Doesn't appear as if Snee is working out. Giants line from left to right- Brown, Schwartz, Walton, Mosley and Pugh #Giants #BBI #NYG
Snee not working again is interesting. So much for feeling better...
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 32s
Beckham with second team offense. John Conner is at first team FB #Giants #BBI #NYG
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 42s
David Wilson starts off Giants mini-camp as second RB up behind Rashad Jennings. Clearly a promising sign for @4stillRunning. #NYG
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 1m
Giants ran a drill comprised entirely of screens working through 1st 2nd and 3rd team offense.
Jordan Raanan @JordanRaanan 30s
Snee working on side field with Will Beatty. This is 3 straight workouts we've seen that Snee hasn't worked in team drills. #giants
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 1m
Chris Snee not with the offense. He's on the opposite field working with a trainer doing some agility drills. #NYG
Ebenezer Samuel @ebenezersamuel 59s
Linebackers for 11 on 11s to start here: Kiwi, Jaquian Williams, McClain
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 48s
McClain working with Williams and Kiwanuka at LB. Moore at DE #Giants #BBI #NYG
Ralph Vacchiano @RVacchianoNYDN 56s
Brandon Mosley is the first-team right guard with Chris Snee not practicing. Charles Brown remains at left tackle for Will Beatty.
At least with him missing time early, that means more reps for Moseley et al. In years past, Snee would take most of the reps in preseason, then get hurt early in the regular season and his replacement would have to try and catch up...
What's the over/under on games played for Snee? 4? 5?
Ralph Vacchiano @RVacchianoNYDN 44s
LB Jon Beason has returned from Charlotte, where he was re-examined yesterday. An update on his injured foot is expected shortly.
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 39s
It's nickel defense. Like was JPP- Jenkins-Moore. Kiwanuka in LB/DE hybrid, other backers McClain and Williams #Giants #BBI #NYG
Jordan Raanan @JordanRaanan 1m
Beckham again seems to be sitting out team drills. Jernigan running consistently with ones. #giants
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 1m
Nice play from Nat Berhe. Came on blitz and batted down Manning pass. Next play, Manning finds Robinson for TD down seam #Giants #BBI #NYG
Ebenezer Samuel @ebenezersamuel 54s
Andre Williams getting some goal line love. Just got ball on a handoff. Then caught a quick pass as well.
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 28s
Markus Kuhn walking off field. Could be a heat issue.
Patricia Traina @Patricia_Traina 27s
Adrien Robinson made a nice reception for a TD. Had to extend to haul it in.
Ralph Vacchiano @RVacchianoNYDN 1m
Two early injuries: TE Daniel Fells leaves on a cart. DT Markus Kuhn walks off the field. Unclear what happened. Could be heat-related.
At least with him missing time early, that means more reps for Moseley et al. In years past, Snee would take most of the reps in preseason, then get hurt early in the regular season and his replacement would have to try and catch up...
What's the over/under on games played for Snee? 4? 5?
Giants linebacker Jon Beason was examined yesterday by Foot and Ankle Specialist Dr. Robert Anderson in Charlotte. After the exam and a review of Beasons MRI, X-Rays and CT scan, it was determined that Beasons injury -- a ligament tear and a small fracture to the sesamoid in his right foot does not require surgery. Beasons foot will be immobilized for six weeks (three weeks in a cast and three in a walking boot) as the first step in his rehabilitation.
Jon Beason commented on these results: My visit with Dr. Anderson went as well as it could have yesterday. Im happy that it was determined that I will be able to recover without surgery. My plan is to work as hard as I can during my rehab so I can be fully recovered around the start of the regular season opener on Monday night in Detroit.
Kieran Darcy @KieranDarcy 28s
Odell Beckham Jr. participated in position drills, but looks like he's still being held out of team drills. RB Peyton Hillis, too #nyg
Ebenezer Samuel @ebenezersamuel 1m
Marcus Harris with a nice wide open catch from Eli
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 1m
DRC just got burned bad on A double move from Marcus Harris. Eli Manning hits Harris perfectly for TD #Giants #BBI #NYG
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 35s
Last play of Practice, ball goes off Jernigan's hands and Rolle pulls in 1-handed INT which he returns all the way #Giants #BBI #NYG
Patricia Traina @Patricia_Traina 40s
Antrel Rolle picks off Eli for a pick 6 to end practice. Kiwi forces the throw by getting pressure.
Kieran Darcy @KieranDarcy 11s
Day 1 ends with Antrel Rolle interception of Eli Manning in 2-minute drill. Throw looked a little high, off Jerrel Jernigan's hands. #nyg
If he can't line up for mini camp, what makes us think he's going to be ready for training camp? It just seems to be the same thing with him.............
Good to read Eli adjusting well to the new offense. You know he's been studying and it's starting to pay off.
Ebenezer Samuel @ebenezersamuel 54s
Snee Didnt Work Today Because his Elbow Was Bothering Him per Coughlin
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 36s
No timetable for Snee. Not being rushed #Giants #BBI #NYG
Ralph Vacchiano @RVacchianoNYDN 34s
Can Jon Beason really be ready for the opener? Said Tom Coughlin: "I have no way of knowing that. We'll see."
Paul Schwartz @NYPost_Schwartz 26s
Tom Coughlin said Chris Snee's surgically repaired elbow is bothering him and this he won't work in this mini-camp. #nyg
Ralph Vacchiano @RVacchianoNYDN 39s
G Chris Snee's surgically repaired elbow is still bothering him, Coughlin said. Doesn't sound like a huge concern.
Ralph Vacchiano @RVacchianoNYDN 10s
DT Markus Kuhn and TE Daniel Fells weren't feeling well, Coughlin said, and the heat made it worse.
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 33s
MLB- McClain first, Kennard second. Doesn't look like Herzlich is an option #Giants #BBI #NYG
Kieran Darcy @KieranDarcy 35s
Tom Coughlin: Snee's elbow bothering him, Beckham not quite ready, McClain is new MLB, but encouraged by Beason news #nyg
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 22s
.@OBJ_3 did all individual work today. Coughlin said he's being brought back slowly, sees no reason to rush his hamstring. #NYG
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 3m
Trumaine McBride had hip surgery in Jan. Says recovery going well. Doing agility drills. Expects to be cleared to start training camp. #NYG
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 2m
Charles James: "I don't think anyone can run past DRC" #Giants #BBI #NYG
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 3m
James says secondary has chance to be league's best #Giants #BBI #NYG
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 3m
Trumaine McBride had hip surgery in Jan. Says recovery going well. Doing agility drills. Expects to be cleared to start training camp. #NYG
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 2m
Charles James: "I don't think anyone can run past DRC" #Giants #BBI #NYG
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 3m
James says secondary has chance to be league's best #Giants #BBI #NYG
That last 1 is largely dependent on at least an average pass rush.
This Snee situation is going to end up a mess, if it's not
Unless Beatty gets healthy himself and bounces back, both RG and LT are going to be massive problems for this team (along with their starting LG being a better RG and their likely probable C being a mixed bag even when not considering how he hasn't played in years now).
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 28m
John Conner said he's excited to show what he can do in passing game. Not just "lumber" #Giants #BBI #NYG
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 28m
so, Conner is a big, big dude. Spent some time in weight room #Giants #BBI
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 27m
Conner said when he heard Giants were one of teams up for Hard Knocks he thought they were just following him around. Woulda been 3x #Giants
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 26m
Trindon Holliday said offense wasn't mentioned during visit with Giants, but he's excited for it. #Giants #BBI #NYG
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 24m
Had a nice conversation with TE Larry Donnell, seems thrilled with new offense #Giants #BBI #NYG
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 4m
Jameel McClain says it was his idea to "bring a little salsa" to #NYG defensive huddle w/ collective imitation of Ric Flair's "Woooo!" #NYG
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 42s
Henry Hynoski laughed when I joked with him that #NYG FBs were MIA from the new offense in OTAs. "Not running many ISOs with no pads on."
Ralph Vacchiano @RVacchianoNYDN 39m
When will LT Will Beatty be ready? "Camp," he said. "(But) they're not saying what day of camp." ... He hopes to play in a preseason game.
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 34s
Get sense Mathias Kiwanuka knows he'll be at LB some w/ Beason out. "If challenge is presented, I'll take it on so we can get better" #NYG
Unless Beatty gets healthy himself and bounces back, both RG and LT are going to be massive problems for this team (along with their starting LG being a better RG and their likely probable C being a mixed bag even when not considering how he hasn't played in years now).
More hysteria on the OL. If Snee can't go them Mosley will. Don't see the issue. Mosley may beat out Snee straight up much less if Snee isn't healthy. And Jerry will be in the mix at by traning cmp as well. Beatty is an issue but they have guys at RG.
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 40m
Chris Snee: "No need to rush back. My lower body feels great. I'm sure you guys were watching me run out there. I'm moving pretty well" #NYG
My point the entire offseason once they signed Snee to a 1 year contract was that if healthy he was young enough to still perform at a high level, if, a big if, he truly wasn't in decline talent-wise. That it was all about health..
His Elbow issue iirc, has been ongoing for a few years. I have little hope that he'll heal enough to perform as he did during 2011 and before..
It's not like the Giants are heavily relying on him.
If he can get back to near 100% it's a huge plus for this team. If not, it's an open competition and he could end up as a backup.
I am a Snee fan and hoping he can come back strong but if not, we have options in Mosley, John Jerry, and Walton/Westburg (whoever doesn't start at Center).
I think him firing out of the gates made everyone forget that not long ago we were hoping he'd be a good back up for us this year. Everyone upgraded him to starter so then when he has ass-aches, everyone is concerned about him more than they should be.
The guy has been cooked for two years. He was great in his time, but that time has passed.
Which is why he took a massive paycut. If he is still "cooked" by the end of training camp, a younger and better option will take his job.
He can't even make it through non-contact OTAs. Do you really think he's going to be good-to-go in another five weeks? And even if he is, do you think he can stand up to the rigors of a 16-game season? Younger options are already replacing him. They may not be better than Snee in his prime, but they're better than he is now.
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I'm not sure what you mean by "preaching", I'm just stating the facts. You and others act as if the Giants are taking some sort of "risk" with Snee.
What facts? He took a paycut? Big deal. It's not like he's been playing for minimum wage the past ten years. He's lucky he wasn't cut, period. And when you say "stop complaining," to me that's preaching.
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This is a low-risk, high-reward situation for the Giants. We should all be pulling for Snee to be at full strength come August.
We should all be pulling for world peace, too. Good luck with that.
It's a waste of time and resources. We've seen this same scenario play out for the past two years. He was terribly ineffective throughout the 2012 season (his Pro Bowl honor notwithstanding), and he was shut down after three games in 2013. He's simply not the player he used to be.
"Time is a predator that stalks us all," and it has its beady little eyes on Chris Snee.
Bah, where? All he's done is changed positions every year as asked and said he'd do it again.
@ConorTOrr
Kiwanuka "very angry, very upset" w/ #Giants after forcing him into paycut, thinks more needs to be done for players http://s.nj.com/uLeOMkb
Good, maybe if he plays angry he might have an impact on a game for the first time ever.
Wrong! In 2006 he did indeed have an impact, so let's not exaggerate..He was good enough to let go of Vince Young from, what would have been, effectively, a game-ending winning sack..
Chronic elbow problem - The elbow will definitely get tested during training camp, especially preseason games. I wince every time I think about a guy having a bum elbow and has to deal with a DL attacking the joint with a rip move.
Time will tell if his body will hold up. I'm a big Snee fan but I have my doubts.
This could end several ways. He could end up quality depth, he may very well walk away if it doesn't look good. A big part of this last hurrah was that he wanted to go out on his own terms. I wouldn't be shocked if things went south that he takes the initiative and says enough is enough.
Who would want a contract that one party can void? He needed to take a cut because he isn't worth that level of compensation, still I cans see his point
He was a very much above average all around DE that year. It's not 2008 anymore though and hasn't been, in terms of his play quality for a long time -- even dating back to the SB run, he was pretty much a non-entity, with decreasing snaps and performance when he got them.
Also, people who think Snee isn't going to be starting on this team (so long as he can force him up for the game, even if not to actually play well or practice very often) are severely fooling themselves. Pay cut for this season or not, we just sat through this type of thing with Diehl for years; the HC's SIL isn't going to receive "lesser" treatment than he did.
Kiwi has been grossly overpaid since Reese gave him a big extension
...before the 2012 season. He got $10 million guaranteed on that deal, and has played like a vet minimum. (Horrible move by Reese extending him, BTW).
He's been a stand up guy, but he's played poorly since he ruptured a disc in his neck in 2010. He really should consider himself lucky to be on a team at all.
has a right to be angry. He is not upset with the Giants as much as he is upset with the system, in that contracts under the NFL CBA favor the teams more than the players.
I wouldn't read to much into this. If anything it's going to make him want to prove something this year, which he'll have to.
and am not saying it's wrong to have doubts with Snee.
The Giants are taking the right approach by not rushing him back so he is as healthy as possible come training camp. If he is not the best option at guard come September, he will be a backup or the Giants may decide to part ways with him (if he doesn't do so himself).
But to act as if he is somehow hurting the team is insane. Why wouldn't you hope for a healthy Chris Snee, even if he is not the Pro Bowl player he once was.
look the part last year, unlike Brewer, who just might end up on the cutting floor. This is Mosely's third year and he just might be ready to hit his stride. He came to the Giants with upside, but development needed. I think he's ready to take that next step and we could be pleasantly surprised this year. If Snee does not win the starting job, I think he'll still stay around as depth and a veteran presence to assist the line. I think that's still a win-win.
Or LG depending upon where Schwartz is better off.
NYGmen - i think we are all pulling for Snee but there is a piece of me that still questions what is going on here. I applaud Snee's effort but are the Giants hanging onto some unlikely dream he makes it? Are they giving him every chance possible but really don't expect it so Mosley/Jerry already know they are fighting for the RG job? I would hope the coaches know best but this is a "touchy" situation that seems to just need a resolve....you know?
Yeah, and I saw Michael Strahan hit Dante Culpepper square and just bounce off. Difference was Strahan hadn't just gotten a 15 yard penalty. Kiwanuka thought he heard the whistle and there probably should have been one.
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Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 17m
Also, new #Giant LB Terrell Manning has been given No. 63. #NYG
Often happens in crowded camps. No rule against it until the regular season.
Doesn't appear as if Snee is working out. Giants line from left to right- Brown, Schwartz, Walton, Mosley and Pugh #Giants #BBI #NYG
Odell Bekcham Jr. appears to be a full go. Fielding punts as we speak #Giants #BBI #NYG
Brandon Mosley remains with the 1st team at RG as Giants begin mini-camp. #NYG OL: Brown-Schwartz-Walton-Mosley-Pugh
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 37s
Here's a little something. Fake punt just run to Demps #Giants #BBI #NYG
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 22s
Giants rookie WR Odell Beckham Jr. (hamstring) is fielding punts, so appears he will be participating today. #NYG
Doesn't appear as if Snee is working out. Giants line from left to right- Brown, Schwartz, Walton, Mosley and Pugh #Giants #BBI #NYG
Snee not working again is interesting. So much for feeling better...
Randle, Cruz, Beckham, Holliday and Thurmond the returners as usual. #Giants #BBI #NYG
Ebenezer Samuel @ebenezersamuel 14s
Snee is here. Doesn't seem to be practicing.
Rookie WR Odell Beckham (hamstring) is on the field, was just fielding punts. #nyg
Beckham with second team offense. John Conner is at first team FB #Giants #BBI #NYG
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 42s
David Wilson starts off Giants mini-camp as second RB up behind Rashad Jennings. Clearly a promising sign for @4stillRunning. #NYG
Will Beatty working with trainers on side. He is not expected to participate until training camp. #NYG
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 1m
Same general WR- Randle and Jernigan outside, Cruz slot #Giants #BBI #NYG
Giants ran a drill comprised entirely of screens working through 1st 2nd and 3rd team offense.
Jordan Raanan @JordanRaanan 30s
Snee working on side field with Will Beatty. This is 3 straight workouts we've seen that Snee hasn't worked in team drills. #giants
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 1m
Chris Snee not with the offense. He's on the opposite field working with a trainer doing some agility drills. #NYG
Chris Snee working on the side now, along with rehabbing left tackle Will Beatty #nyg
GiantsWFAN @giantswfan 1m
snee beatty manningham working on side...all others in standard drills
And there it is, a full speed route run by Odell Beckham in individuals. #nyg
No drops from TE during route tree. Robinson showed some nice balance top-thing down side #Giants #BBI #NYG
Randle with lone drop thus far from WR #Giants #BBI #NYG
Curtis Painter's knee wrap is gone.
On out route (no d) Beckham makes jumping toe-tapping grab. Elevated well. Nice catch. #Giants #BBI #NYG
Beckham has looked good so far. Just made a leaping grab on the sideline. Has better hops than I thought. #nyg
Rookie WR @OBJ_3 looking sharp so far. Running clean routes. Just made nice leaping grab during passing drills. #NYG
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 1m
Beckham follows with a drop #Giants #BBI #NYG
Jameel McClain looks to be calling plays in huddle here first. #Giants in nickel D though
Linebackers for 11 on 11s to start here: Kiwi, Jaquian Williams, McClain
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 48s
McClain working with Williams and Kiwanuka at LB. Moore at DE #Giants #BBI #NYG
Ralph Vacchiano @RVacchianoNYDN 56s
Brandon Mosley is the first-team right guard with Chris Snee not practicing. Charles Brown remains at left tackle for Will Beatty.
What's the over/under on games played for Snee? 4? 5?
Giant D opens in nickel in 11 v 11. Mcclain and Jacquian were your linebackers
To clarify that first look was a nickel look, kiwi standup rusher I think
LB Jon Beason has returned from Charlotte, where he was re-examined yesterday. An update on his injured foot is expected shortly.
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 39s
It's nickel defense. Like was JPP- Jenkins-Moore. Kiwanuka in LB/DE hybrid, other backers McClain and Williams #Giants #BBI #NYG
Herzlich was in the middle with second string. Kennard and Paysinger on either side. #nyg
Beckham again seems to be sitting out team drills. Jernigan running consistently with ones. #giants
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 1m
Nice play from Nat Berhe. Came on blitz and batted down Manning pass. Next play, Manning finds Robinson for TD down seam #Giants #BBI #NYG
Ebenezer Samuel @ebenezersamuel 54s
Andre Williams getting some goal line love. Just got ball on a handoff. Then caught a quick pass as well.
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 28s
Markus Kuhn walking off field. Could be a heat issue.
Patricia Traina @Patricia_Traina 27s
Adrien Robinson made a nice reception for a TD. Had to extend to haul it in.
Daniel Fells just went off in a cart (via @giantswfan) #nyg
First look at 4-3 defense- Kennard- McClain- Williams, McClain calling plays
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 10s
McClain is MLB #Giants #BBI #NYG
GiantsWFAN @giantswfan 1m
fells and kuhn going inside for fluids
Kennard bats one down in Eli's face #Giants #BBI #NYG
In the base, McClain in the middle, Kennard on the strong side, Jacquian on the weak side. #nyg
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 45s
Kennard 2nd rookie to bat down Eli pass at LOS. Kennard with 1s in this set, a jumbo look w Jenkins at DE.
Two early injuries: TE Daniel Fells leaves on a cart. DT Markus Kuhn walks off the field. Unclear what happened. Could be heat-related.
What's the over/under on games played for Snee? 4? 5?
He may retire before season starts.
Manning connects with Randle on long bomb TD. Beautiful pass from Eli. Randle beat Ross Weaver #Giants #BBI #NYG
Working KR now. Demps back first with Kellen Davis, John Conner and Adrien Robinson in front #Giants #BBI #NYG
RB Kendall Gaskins has some quickness in him. Took a pass before and burst up the sideline.
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 11s
Holliday gets second return followed by Jernigan, Cox #Giants #BBI #NYG
Eli Manning had the best throw I've seen him have this spring on a deep seam to Rueben Randle earlier #NYG
Jon Beason commented on these results: My visit with Dr. Anderson went as well as it could have yesterday. Im happy that it was determined that I will be able to recover without surgery. My plan is to work as hard as I can during my rehab so I can be fully recovered around the start of the regular season opener on Monday night in Detroit.
Manning is having one of his better to actives this spring. Looks very sharp #Giants #BBI #NYG
Jordan Raanan @JordanRaanan 1m
Adrien Robinson has hit a couple big pass plays down seam in today's practice. #giants
Odell Beckham Jr. participated in position drills, but looks like he's still being held out of team drills. RB Peyton Hillis, too #nyg
Marcus Harris with a nice wide open catch from Eli
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 1m
DRC just got burned bad on A double move from Marcus Harris. Eli Manning hits Harris perfectly for TD #Giants #BBI #NYG
DLs doing a good job of getting their hands up to try to bat down passes. They've had some success today.
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 53s
Preston Parker carted off. Looks like a heat issue.
Odell Beckham still not working with the offense during live drills. #nyg
Last play of Practice, ball goes off Jernigan's hands and Rolle pulls in 1-handed INT which he returns all the way #Giants #BBI #NYG
Antrel Rolle picks off Eli for a pick 6 to end practice. Kiwi forces the throw by getting pressure.
Kieran Darcy @KieranDarcy 11s
Day 1 ends with Antrel Rolle interception of Eli Manning in 2-minute drill. Throw looked a little high, off Jerrel Jernigan's hands. #nyg
Antrel Rolle with the walk-off tipped pick. Two days until "summer vacation." #NYG
Manning the star of today's camp. Looked very good. Best I've seen him this spring. #Giants #BBI #NYG
Coughlin said it's good news regarding no surgery for Beason #Giants #BBI #NYG
"We'll go forward with what we have." Coughlin on Beason #Giants #BBI #NYG
Coughlin says players will pick up leadership void. #Giants #BBI #NYG
Good to read Eli adjusting well to the new offense. You know he's been studying and it's starting to pay off.
Snee Didnt Work Today Because his Elbow Was Bothering Him per Coughlin
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 36s
No timetable for Snee. Not being rushed #Giants #BBI #NYG
Ralph Vacchiano @RVacchianoNYDN 34s
Can Jon Beason really be ready for the opener? Said Tom Coughlin: "I have no way of knowing that. We'll see."
Paul Schwartz @NYPost_Schwartz 26s
Tom Coughlin said Chris Snee's surgically repaired elbow is bothering him and this he won't work in this mini-camp. #nyg
Coughlin said Trindon Holliday as done a good job in the slot. #Giants #BBI #NYG
G Chris Snee's surgically repaired elbow is still bothering him, Coughlin said. Doesn't sound like a huge concern.
Ralph Vacchiano @RVacchianoNYDN 10s
DT Markus Kuhn and TE Daniel Fells weren't feeling well, Coughlin said, and the heat made it worse.
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 33s
MLB- McClain first, Kennard second. Doesn't look like Herzlich is an option #Giants #BBI #NYG
Were headed into the locker room today. #Giants #BBI #NYG
Tom Coughlin: Snee's elbow bothering him, Beckham not quite ready, McClain is new MLB, but encouraged by Beason news #nyg
.@OBJ_3 did all individual work today. Coughlin said he's being brought back slowly, sees no reason to rush his hamstring. #NYG
Trumaine McBride had hip surgery in Jan. Says recovery going well. Doing agility drills. Expects to be cleared to start training camp. #NYG
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 2m
Charles James: "I don't think anyone can run past DRC" #Giants #BBI #NYG
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 3m
James says secondary has chance to be league's best #Giants #BBI #NYG
Trumaine McBride had hip surgery in Jan. Says recovery going well. Doing agility drills. Expects to be cleared to start training camp. #NYG
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 2m
Charles James: "I don't think anyone can run past DRC" #Giants #BBI #NYG
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 3m
James says secondary has chance to be league's best #Giants #BBI #NYG
That last 1 is largely dependent on at least an average pass rush.
Unless Beatty gets healthy himself and bounces back, both RG and LT are going to be massive problems for this team (along with their starting LG being a better RG and their likely probable C being a mixed bag even when not considering how he hasn't played in years now).
William Beatty says no doubt he'll be back by training camp. #Giants #BBI #NYG
Kennard: I'm spending hours and hours in the playbook every day and every night.
Dan Salomone @NYGsalomone 40m
Rolle on McClain: He's a vocal leader, he knows what to do...He's a good guy to be around.
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 28m
John Conner said he's excited to show what he can do in passing game. Not just "lumber" #Giants #BBI #NYG
John Conner said he's excited to show what he can do in passing game. Not just "lumber" #Giants #BBI #NYG
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 28m
so, Conner is a big, big dude. Spent some time in weight room #Giants #BBI
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 27m
Conner said when he heard Giants were one of teams up for Hard Knocks he thought they were just following him around. Woulda been 3x #Giants
Trindon Holliday said offense wasn't mentioned during visit with Giants, but he's excited for it. #Giants #BBI #NYG
Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 24m
Had a nice conversation with TE Larry Donnell, seems thrilled with new offense #Giants #BBI #NYG
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 4m
Jameel McClain says it was his idea to "bring a little salsa" to #NYG defensive huddle w/ collective imitation of Ric Flair's "Woooo!" #NYG
Henry Hynoski laughed when I joked with him that #NYG FBs were MIA from the new offense in OTAs. "Not running many ISOs with no pads on."
William Beatty says no doubt he'll be back by training camp. #Giants #BBI #NYG
Good to hear. Hope he'll be in shape when he shows up.
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Will Beatty: "No doubt in my mind" that he will be back on the field at some point in training camp. #NYG
When will LT Will Beatty be ready? "Camp," he said. "(But) they're not saying what day of camp." ... He hopes to play in a preseason game.
Get sense Mathias Kiwanuka knows he'll be at LB some w/ Beason out. "If challenge is presented, I'll take it on so we can get better" #NYG
Ray Nitschke wore #66.
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if you are given number 63 as a linebacker the chances of making the team are zero point zero
Ray Nitschke wore #66.
Nitschke retired after the 1972 season. The NFL position numbering scheme started in 1973.
Unless Beatty gets healthy himself and bounces back, both RG and LT are going to be massive problems for this team (along with their starting LG being a better RG and their likely probable C being a mixed bag even when not considering how he hasn't played in years now).
More hysteria on the OL. If Snee can't go them Mosley will. Don't see the issue. Mosley may beat out Snee straight up much less if Snee isn't healthy. And Jerry will be in the mix at by traning cmp as well. Beatty is an issue but they have guys at RG.
Chris Snee: "No need to rush back. My lower body feels great. I'm sure you guys were watching me run out there. I'm moving pretty well" #NYG
His Elbow issue iirc, has been ongoing for a few years. I have little hope that he'll heal enough to perform as he did during 2011 and before..
Yes, it's an uninformed guess
Dude hasn't done jack squat in years.
Dude hasn't done jack squat in years.
^^^^This
Dude hasn't done jack squat in years.
McClain - may not be Beason but at least knows the position
Kennard - rose right up the depth chart and its not even July. Herzlich may be an early cut.
If he can get back to near 100% it's a huge plus for this team. If not, it's an open competition and he could end up as a backup.
I am a Snee fan and hoping he can come back strong but if not, we have options in Mosley, John Jerry, and Walton/Westburg (whoever doesn't start at Center).
Not great options but still a contingency plan.
Stop complaining.
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Which is why he took a massive paycut. If he is still "cooked" by the end of training camp, a younger and better option will take his job.
I'm not sure what you mean by "preaching", I'm just stating the facts. You and others act as if the Giants are taking some sort of "risk" with Snee.
This is a low-risk, high-reward situation for the Giants. We should all be pulling for Snee to be at full strength come August.
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The guy has been cooked for two years. He was great in his time, but that time has passed.
Which is why he took a massive paycut. If he is still "cooked" by the end of training camp, a younger and better option will take his job.
He can't even make it through non-contact OTAs. Do you really think he's going to be good-to-go in another five weeks? And even if he is, do you think he can stand up to the rigors of a 16-game season? Younger options are already replacing him. They may not be better than Snee in his prime, but they're better than he is now.
What facts? He took a paycut? Big deal. It's not like he's been playing for minimum wage the past ten years. He's lucky he wasn't cut, period. And when you say "stop complaining," to me that's preaching.
We should all be pulling for world peace, too. Good luck with that.
It's a waste of time and resources. We've seen this same scenario play out for the past two years. He was terribly ineffective throughout the 2012 season (his Pro Bowl honor notwithstanding), and he was shut down after three games in 2013. He's simply not the player he used to be.
"Time is a predator that stalks us all," and it has its beady little eyes on Chris Snee.
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waahhhhhhhhhh.
Dude hasn't done jack squat in years.
Bah, where? All he's done is changed positions every year as asked and said he'd do it again.
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Kiwanuka "very angry, very upset" w/ #Giants after forcing him into paycut, thinks more needs to be done for players http://s.nj.com/uLeOMkb
Fine if he is angry, take it out on the guy lined up across from you and you can make more next year...
Wrong! In 2006 he did indeed have an impact, so let's not exaggerate..He was good enough to let go of Vince Young from, what would have been, effectively, a game-ending winning sack..
Time will tell if his body will hold up. I'm a big Snee fan but I have my doubts.
This could end several ways. He could end up quality depth, he may very well walk away if it doesn't look good. A big part of this last hurrah was that he wanted to go out on his own terms. I wouldn't be shocked if things went south that he takes the initiative and says enough is enough.
Also, people who think Snee isn't going to be starting on this team (so long as he can force him up for the game, even if not to actually play well or practice very often) are severely fooling themselves. Pay cut for this season or not, we just sat through this type of thing with Diehl for years; the HC's SIL isn't going to receive "lesser" treatment than he did.
He's been a stand up guy, but he's played poorly since he ruptured a disc in his neck in 2010. He really should consider himself lucky to be on a team at all.
I wouldn't read to much into this. If anything it's going to make him want to prove something this year, which he'll have to.
The Giants are taking the right approach by not rushing him back so he is as healthy as possible come training camp. If he is not the best option at guard come September, he will be a backup or the Giants may decide to part ways with him (if he doesn't do so himself).
But to act as if he is somehow hurting the team is insane. Why wouldn't you hope for a healthy Chris Snee, even if he is not the Pro Bowl player he once was.
It's not like we have Larry Little behind him!
NYGmen - i think we are all pulling for Snee but there is a piece of me that still questions what is going on here. I applaud Snee's effort but are the Giants hanging onto some unlikely dream he makes it? Are they giving him every chance possible but really don't expect it so Mosley/Jerry already know they are fighting for the RG job? I would hope the coaches know best but this is a "touchy" situation that seems to just need a resolve....you know?
Yeah, and I saw Michael Strahan hit Dante Culpepper square and just bounce off. Difference was Strahan hadn't just gotten a 15 yard penalty. Kiwanuka thought he heard the whistle and there probably should have been one.
Would be nice. That's for sure.