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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/17/2014 12:10 pm
fyi.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/17/2014 12:11 pm : link
Giants linebacker Jon Beason was examined yesterday by Foot and Ankle Specialist Dr. Robert Anderson in Charlotte. After the exam and a review of Beasonís MRI, X-Rays and CT scan, it was determined that Beasonís injury -- a ligament tear and a small fracture to the sesamoid in his right foot Ė does not require surgery. Beasonís foot will be immobilized for six weeks (three weeks in a cast and three in a walking boot) as the first step in his rehabilitation.

Jon Beason commented on these results: ďMy visit with Dr. Anderson went as well as it could have yesterday. Iím happy that it was determined that I will be able to recover without surgery. My plan is to work as hard as I can during my rehab so I can be fully recovered around the start of the regular season opener on Monday night in Detroit.Ē
great  
Mr. Nickels : 6/17/2014 12:13 pm : link
news!
Great  
phil in arizona : 6/17/2014 12:15 pm : link
!
This truly is good news  
mac attack : 6/17/2014 12:15 pm : link
The only way I can see this being an issue is if the injury lingers throughout the season and hinders his play.

We saw Ahmad Bradshaw play through broken foot injuries, however they definitely affected his performance.
Good news.....  
gersh : 6/17/2014 12:16 pm : link
I guess? I mean avoiding surgery is generally a good thing.

I suppose that means that the 12 week time table is even less certain. If he's immobilized for 6 weeks, maybe coming back in 9-10 weeks is possible?
But now it also seems more possible that he will have set backs and a longer recovery time.
Excellent news  
ImaGiant86 : 6/17/2014 12:16 pm : link
.
Also good news is  
nygiants16 : 6/17/2014 12:17 pm : link
its not 12 weeks in a cast or walking boot...its 6 then he can start rehab...if it was 12 weeks then rehab he would miss 4 or 5 games...this way it may only be 1 or 2
Let's just hope,  
Doomster : 6/17/2014 12:18 pm : link
the diagnosis is correct....
This may be better  
ANGPASS : 6/17/2014 12:24 pm : link
he could have a more serious injury in one of the five preseason games. he doesn't need the reps. keep him on the shelf until the season and see whqat we have behind him. maybe a gem can appear and it will show our line backing core is stronger than most think. Maybe Fox or Kennard are studs. either way, beason will be there week 2, if not 1
RE: This may be better  
shabu : 6/17/2014 12:27 pm : link
In comment 11731533 ANGPASS said:
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he could have a more serious injury in one of the five preseason games. he doesn't need the reps. keep him on the shelf until the season and see whqat we have behind him. maybe a gem can appear and it will show our line backing core is stronger than most think. Maybe Fox or Kennard are studs. either way, beason will be there week 2, if not 1


I don't agree that it is better.. but you accurately laid out the silver lining there sir, and I do agree there is one in this case.
That is great!  
Rjanyg : 6/17/2014 12:32 pm : link
Glad no surgery.
My question is...  
Milton : 6/17/2014 12:32 pm : link
Did the second opinion confirm the first opinion? Or is this a case of the Panthers doctor saying no surgery necessary when the Giants doctor said surgery is best?
I sure hope surgery does not becomes needed later  
George from PA : 6/17/2014 12:34 pm : link
As long as he truly does not need it.....than great.
They should have  
Pete in MD : 6/17/2014 12:34 pm : link
sent him to the NYC Ballet's doctor. He/she would be an expert in sesamoid injuries. They are very common in dancers.
RE: My question is...  
nygiants16 : 6/17/2014 12:34 pm : link
In comment 11731555 Milton said:
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Did the second opinion confirm the first opinion? Or is this a case of the Panthers doctor saying no surgery necessary when the Giants doctor said surgery is best?


I think its more like Giants doctors diagnosed the injury and foot/ankle doctor gave the healing process whether surgery or rehab..
BB56  
Stan from LA : 6/17/2014 12:34 pm : link
Your opinion?
Coughin  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/17/2014 12:42 pm : link
weighs in...tweet updates in mini-camp thread.
awesome  
Joeguido : 6/17/2014 12:43 pm : link
news....hopefully timetable is still around 10 - 12 weeks.
I highly  
Bradshaw #44 : 6/17/2014 12:50 pm : link
doubt he misses any real games.
this is great  
Bleedin Blue : 6/17/2014 12:51 pm : link
any chance they do that blood procedure they did on Bradshaw?? I think they separated the red blood cells and injected his foot with it to help speed the bone healing? Do I have this right or am I a Mad Scientist??
the optomist  
Matt in SGS : 6/17/2014 12:55 pm : link
in me is happy to see that this can recover without surgery and just rehab will do the trick and he will be good to go.

The pessimist in me looks at what just happened with Eli this offseason where after 3 months of rest, realized that he needed to go under the knife. The problem is, if the doctors are wrong this time, Beason ends up missing a several games.

Let's hope the Giants dodged a bullet here.
I don't want to be negative, but  
Bob from Massachusetts : 6/17/2014 1:04 pm : link
on the one hand I'm glad that he will physically be able to play, and his leadership is critical to his role. On the other hand, though, with foot injuries, it's bound to affect his conditioning, and very possible it will affect his agility for a good part of the season. You can be healed but lose the progress you would normally make during the offseason with a healthy foot. I think this is basically what happened to JPP last year.
McBride  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/17/2014 1:06 pm : link
reveals he had hip surgery in January.
RE: Let's just hope,  
Randy in CT : 6/17/2014 1:09 pm : link
In comment 11731522 Doomster said:
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the diagnosis is correct....
This guy is fucking relentless...
He does have a point, though, Randy.  
Klaatu : 6/17/2014 1:13 pm : link
You know...besides the one on his head. Matt in SGS laid it out with the Eli comparison.
Is it good news?  
M.S. : 6/17/2014 1:17 pm : link

Isn't recovery sometimes shorter with surgery than no surgery?
Surgery to repair sesamoid fracture is not typically required.  
Jimmy Googs : 6/17/2014 1:21 pm : link
It is usually too small to fix and if doesn't get better on its own (thru keeping inactive/immobilized) than a procedure to remove the smaller fragment of the sesamoid would likely be performed.

The ligament tear will heal on its own.

12 weeks sounds about right.
i'm no doctor but i've rarely heard of a ligament tear healing on it's  
gtt350 : 6/17/2014 1:45 pm : link
own. now if he needs surgery in Sept kiss the season goodbye
As a group, we should definitely  
Randy in CT : 6/17/2014 1:47 pm : link
be second-guessing the specialists. Because we're so fucking smart, I mean.
Where's Big Blue '56 when you need him?  
Klaatu : 6/17/2014 1:54 pm : link
yeah  
M in CT : 6/17/2014 1:54 pm : link
torn ligaments definitely don't heal on their own, so that is 100% wrong.

if the ligament is partially torn, it could still be intact enough so that the structure of the foot is not compromised. physical therapy could also help strengthen the tiny muscles in the foot to compensate for a partially compromised ligament.

but if the ligament is fully torn, then no amount of rest is going to heal it.
Awesome.  
Mike in Long Beach : 6/17/2014 1:57 pm : link
Most important player on the defense.

Fantastic news.
avoiding surgery  
djm : 6/17/2014 2:05 pm : link
is always a good thing. Always.

I'm sure there is a group of people around here that would actually prefer Beason get the surgery two weeks ago. But this is good news. Fuck surgery.
Great  
AcidTest : 6/17/2014 2:09 pm : link
news! He can be on the camp PUP list while the Giants monitor his recovery.
What happens if  
Giants : 6/17/2014 2:12 pm : link
this doesn't work? Will he be out for the season ?
RE: What happens if  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/17/2014 2:13 pm : link
In comment 11731755 Giants said:
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this doesn't work? Will he be out for the season ?


If in three months, this doesn't work, and they decide to get surgery, this could very likely mean he misses time into december, if he plays at all.
yes  
djm : 6/17/2014 2:27 pm : link
and things could also go wrong if Beason did get the surgery.

Surgery is a last resort and doesn't always ensure a player's good health. Matter of fact it almost guarantees more surgeries will follow.

RE: yeah  
Simms11 : 6/17/2014 2:27 pm : link
In comment 11731716 M in CT said:
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torn ligaments definitely don't heal on their own, so that is 100% wrong.

if the ligament is partially torn, it could still be intact enough so that the structure of the foot is not compromised. physical therapy could also help strengthen the tiny muscles in the foot to compensate for a partially compromised ligament.

It's very odd to me too. Ligaments don't heal on there own, but I suppose it's not that big a tear and that he can strengthen the area around the ligament. He might be able to play with it, once the bone heals, but at some point he may have to have surgery to fix the ligament.

but if the ligament is fully torn, then no amount of rest is going to heal it.
Wonder if not repairing the ligament  
section125 : 6/17/2014 2:45 pm : link
will not hurt the function of the foot so the only thing they are doing is allowing the break to heal?
Makes me nervous  
NYDCBlue : 6/17/2014 3:02 pm : link
Often when these guys elect to go with rest over surgery they end up not healing correctly and eventually get the surgery anyway. I hope that doesn't happen, because then Beason will loose out on a significant portion of the season....
When you have a grade 3 sprain  
nygiants16 : 6/17/2014 3:03 pm : link
you are tearing ligaments in your ankle and you do not necessarily need surgery...

When you tear your achilles you do not necessarily need surgery you cna choose not to and hope it heals by itself of course it takes a lot longer...
Of course a torn ligament can heal without  
Jimmy Googs : 6/17/2014 3:17 pm : link
surgery. Lots of things heal without surgerical procedures...



BBI doctors  
BCD : 6/17/2014 3:41 pm : link
and Holiday Express
RE: BBI doctors  
Randy in CT : 6/17/2014 3:45 pm : link
In comment 11731904 BCD said:
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and Holiday Express
We have some credible guys on here like BB56 and Bob in MA, et al, however even they aren't in the know with particulars so for me, I don't get too bogged down in the what-ifs of this stuff.
Sesamoid injuries tend to  
Doom5 : 6/17/2014 4:53 pm : link
linger, sometimes forever. I injured one of my sesamoid bones running on a treadmill years ago. It took a few months before I could run again, but to this day, I can aggravate it just by going for very long walks.

Doing research online when I had my issue, it seems that a lot of people have chronic pain/issues once they injure their sesamoid bones.

I hope this is not the case for Beason.
I believe that a ligament can heal if partially torn  
gersh : 6/17/2014 5:54 pm : link
but if totally torn - then surgery is needed to re-attach the 2 separate pieces.
I think gersh nailed it here, that it can't possibly be a full tear of  
BlueLou : 6/17/2014 6:15 pm : link
the ligament or it would require surgery, and partial tears can indeed heal themselves. Re the initial immobilization, I believe (but am by no means certain) that Asian medicine isn't very fond of immobilization as treatment for joint/ligament injuries. The problem being that immobilization (which may be necessary for the bone to heal) will also limit blood flow to the area, and it's increased and stimulated blood flow that increases the rate of healing.

Does anyone know if the Giants have Asian medical specialists on their staff?
Hope Beason  
TMS : 6/17/2014 6:19 pm : link
is down at the practices to mentor vour new LBs. From what i have seen of him and his commitment to team I am sure he will be. It will be at least 4/5 games into the season before he will be really back. We need others to step up with his help.
That's right BlueLou regarding the blood flow  
Jimmy Googs : 6/17/2014 6:24 pm : link
issue. Blood flow is not all that good to that part of the foot which hinders the healing process to some degree. But again, 12 weeks is not a bad estimation for recovery time.

The real question is why more injured NY Giants don't create threads on BBI to get proper medical advice :)

LOL JG.  
BlueLou : 6/17/2014 6:33 pm : link
I'm sure the Giants' training facility has most if not all of the latest gizmos to stimulate blood flow, to be used at least as soon as they remove the cast.
Good News!  
Percy : 6/17/2014 6:41 pm : link
Isn't Anderson Beason's regular surgeon, as it were (from past injuries), familiar with Beason's legs and so on and how he heals?
If you want to stimulate blood flow...  
Jimmy Googs : 6/17/2014 6:45 pm : link
measure the blood flow to my head when we all have to watch the other NY Giant LBs try to cover up for a missing Jon Beason on the field.
Does anyone know if the Giants have Asian medical specialists on their  
Bill in UT : 6/17/2014 10:06 pm : link
staff?

I saw a carton of Chinese takeout in the trainers' room. Does that count?
Blood flow to the area?  
Bill in UT : 6/17/2014 10:08 pm : link
What if they dropped a Viagra into the boot?
it's just too bad  
M in CT : 6/17/2014 10:17 pm : link
that Beason can't harness his Chi and heal the injury by concentrating really really hard.
Bill in Ut, give them a hand.  
manh george : 6/17/2014 10:43 pm : link
They need better blood flow to the areola. What's your strategy?
Wait a minute  
Ralph.C : 6/17/2014 11:24 pm : link
A FULLY torn ligament or one that is more than 50% may not heal on it's own. But if it is a tiny tear it certainly can.
i'm gonna mentally add 2-4 weeks to whatever they say  
SHO'NUFF : 6/17/2014 11:25 pm : link
for me to consider Beason back 100%
mahn george, I hope they caught that areola thing early  
Bill in UT : 6/17/2014 11:39 pm : link
that's the kind of problem you have to nip in the bud
At the very least...  
manh george : 6/18/2014 2:58 am : link
they have to keep a breast of the situation, so he doesn't end up a bust.
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