Could Philly have stopped the Giants from winning SB46?

Worst Super Bowl Champions Ever >>>>>> never winning the super bowl

that Superbowl.

It was all just luck in beating the 10-6 Falcons, 15-1 Packers, 13-3 Niners and then finally the 13-3 Patriots.

Pure luck...

that the Eagles win never, ever win a Superbowl. And if you think about it, that's the way it should be.

No

If Vick hadn't gotten hurt on what may have been a late hit by Canty, and if McCoy had converted a fourth and one early in the fourth quarter, the Eagles probably would have won. Two months later, the Eagles beat the Giants with Vince Young at QB.

So it's understandable that Eagle fans aren't overly impressed with the 2011 Giants. Heck, most Giant fans didn't think much of that team until just before halftime in Week 16. The 2011 Giants were fortunate to make the playoffs. They hit their stride at the right time, though, and played like legitimate champions when it mattered most.

Could the Eagles have mounted a similar run? I guess it's possible. They did finish the season strongly; but there are good reasons Michael Vick hasn't won a playoff game in nearly ten years, and incarceration is only one of them.

But down the stretch after that jets game - I don't care who you put against that team, we were beating them. Both sides of the ball just clicked at the exact right time. Eagles were not beating the Giants in the playoffs. Period.

is akin to Roseanne Barr judging a Miss America pageant.

The Giants whipped the Packers and 49ers again.

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teeth I'd bite!

.. EVER.....

I would've been more worried about the Saints that year than the Eagles. Was happy the 49ers beat them a round earlier

the 85 Bears took home. I don't see anything on our trophy that says anything "about luck"

as a 10-6 year. The regular season Packers game was just so damned stacked against the Giants by the refs, it was the worst I've ever seen.

Very thankful the Gmen beat the Packers in the playoffs that year because they again had to beat the refs first.

In comment 11748660 SamTheTram said:

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I would've been more worried about the Saints that year than the Eagles. Was happy the 49ers beat them a round earlier

Bingo. I know a lot of Giant fans that wanted the Saints to win because they hate the niners, understandably. But I sure didn't want the Giants to play that Saints team. Also happy the Saints beat Detroit to give SF a very tough 2nd round game before playing us. And I think it helped getting to play Green Bay earlier coming off their bye instead of in the NFC championship game after a tune up game against the Lions. The Giants run that year wasn't lucky, it was magical and divine.

Who gives a shit! They won the Super Bowl!

I couldn't care less if they win by 6 TD's or if the win by a field goal.

The Eagles could have stopped the 2011 Giants from winning the Super Bowl... by converting on fourth and one in Week Three, and going on to win that game at the Linc. That was their best chance to derail the Giants' season, and they missed it. Instead, that game will be remembered as the start of the Victor Cruz phenomenon, and the beginning of the end for the Dream Team. Of course, we'll never know what would have happened if the Giants had lost that game. They've dug themselves out of deeper holes.

As for beating the Giants in the playoffs... no, I doubt it. The Giants beat much better teams than the Eagles in the postseason.

The Eagles seem to always have our number, they did stop the 2008 team, so it's possible they could have. But they wouldn't have stopped anybody else in that playoffs. Even the Lions would've crushed them.

Before the switch turned on, the 2011 Giants were a mediocre team without a doubt. The only luck was that they woke up at just the right time. Luck doesn't get you through 10-6 Atlanta, 15-1 Green Bay in Green Bay, 13-3 San Francisco in San Francisco, and then a 13-3 New England team with Tom Brady bloodlusted for revenge.

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If Vick hadn't gotten hurt on what may have been a late hit by Canty, and if McCoy had converted a fourth and one early in the fourth quarter, the Eagles probably would have won.

With all due respects, things like that are total nonsense. Guaranteed I can go over the game and cherry pick 2 or 3 IF this, that, or the other thing went the Giants way we would have blown the Eagles out of the building that day scenarios.

The original question posed on the Philly board was a silly hypothetical, so I was just playing along. Obviously, it doesn't make any difference what might have happened, or who might have beaten whom. The Giants won in Week 3, lost in Week 11, and righted themselves in time to make a post-season run. The Eagles woke up too late. If their fans find comfort in an alternate scenario, let them enjoy it.

more misery for them the better.

My remark wasn't directed at you or anyone in particular, but rather a sweeping generalization.

I'll be the first to admit after all the time that has passed I should grow thick ones, but my eyes still twitch every time I see "IF" Samuel held onto that interception, "IF" Manning was called in the grasp on the Tyree catch, "IF" Kyle Williams doesn't foul up 2 punts etc..... ;>)

a Cowboys fan saying if Miles Austin didn't lose that ball in the lights / if room didn't over throw him they would have legitimate argument. I get shit from people because we were 9-7 but that team was pretty banged up in the beginning of the year and we got healthy when we made that run. Every team regardless of how good they are needs a little luck to win a Super Bowl. The re-signing of Chase Blackburn didn't hurt either.

In comment 11748583 Jimmy Googs said:

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that Superbowl. It was all just luck in beating the 10-6 Falcons, 15-1 Packers, 13-3 Niners and then finally the 13-3 Patriots. Pure luck...

No, the luck was making the playoffs at 9-7 and Romo overthrowing a wide open receiver for a TD. They were probably the worst regular season team ever to win a super bowl. But as you pointed out, the playoff run shuts all of that up. Also, if not for bullshit holding on giants the giants may have blown the pats out.

Was the saints. I watched the saints niners game at the bar and was rooting for the 9ers so hard that people asked if I was from San Fran. And I told them no, I just knew the Giants could beat them but not the saints. I was on cloud nine when Smtih led that ridiculous drive down the field to beat them. What an amazing fluke.

The point of that kind of playoff is more to provide exciting games than it is to reward the team with the overall highest level of performance throughout the season.

are the Patriots fans. Especially when they complain about uncalled holding on the Manning to Tyree play and pretend that the tuck play in 2001 never happened.

Recall that Philly has a monument of a fictional movie character as its hero.

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NFC East Teams lucky 12 times - Philadelphia Eagles unlucky 48 times.

who Da F&%K are they to judge us!!! Look at their trophy case!


oh and while I'm at it,
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Lucky they beat the Eagles or they would be champs.

In comment 11749094 an_idol_mind said:

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are the Patriots fans. Especially when they complain about uncalled holding on the Manning to Tyree play and pretend that the tuck play in 2001 never happened.

Their 3 Superbowl wins were by a combined 9 points. There was some luck involved. Every Superbowl champion has some luck go their way. The '91 Redskins benefitted from R** H******, Steve Bono taking snaps for the Niners for part of the year, a total meltdown at QB for Philly, and the Cowboys not being quite ready yet. They played Barry Sanders in the NFC Championship. Does that take away from the '91 Redskins being an incredible team and a worthy champion? No!

winning every game 60-0?

Not gonna happen in the "parity" obsessed NFL.

as the man said in his sign-off "Haters gonna hate blah blah blah"

at 9-0 giants jacobs had just ripped off a big run for a first down when they called beatty for a holding penalty on wilfork that never was,he just plain fell over trying to turn and run after jacobs,if the giants went up 16-0 that superbowl was over right there and they rout the pats from that point on instead the pats scored and it was a close game

would have lost to the Saints. We were lucky they lost. We would have played them in New Orleans where they destroyed us in November.

In comment 11752204 Mr. Nickels said:

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would have lost to the Saints. We were lucky they lost. We would have played them in New Orleans where they destroyed us in November.

Yeah I dont remember the last time the Giants beat the Saints.

In comment 11752234 spike said:

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In comment 11752204 Mr. Nickels said: Quote: would have lost to the Saints. We were lucky they lost. We would have played them in New Orleans where they destroyed us in November. Yeah I dont remember the last time the Giants beat the Saints.

2012, crushed them 52-27.

...and the Saints' average margin of victory has been enormous.

Technically, the Saints were the "home" team for the 2005 Katrina game, but it was notoriously played in Giants Stadium.