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Giants 2014 Positional Breakdown: Cornerbacks

Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/15/2014 9:39 am
FYI.
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Nice.  
Randy in CT : 7/15/2014 10:44 am : link
I have very high hopes for this group.
good looking group  
Victor in CT : 7/15/2014 10:51 am : link
solid to stellar talent. key will be cohesion and understanding who to play together.
Eric  
bc4life : 7/15/2014 10:52 am : link
RE: mental breakdowns and dumbing down - hopefully, Antrel Rolle's public scolding of some members of the secondary for failing to put in the time and effort to completely absorb the defense, coupled with the addition of some veterans will solve that issue.
LOVE thurmond  
CruzShip52 : 7/15/2014 11:17 am : link
What a player

Eric  
GP : 7/15/2014 11:45 am : link
Does your prediction on McBride assume he's unhealthy? I think if he's healthy he's essentially a lock.
McBride could be a valuable player for the Giants  
Jimmy Googs : 7/15/2014 12:00 pm : link
over the next few seasons. Not saying he is great, but he stepped up big-time last year and held his own.

And with his low price-tag, he is a perfect resource in case the market value for Prince and Thurmond go thru the roof next year...
Interesting that Guinta's assessments of  
Bill in UT : 7/15/2014 12:09 pm : link
DRC and Thurmond both seemed more positive than what he had to say about Prince
GP  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/15/2014 12:19 pm : link
No,

I realize it's not the likely scenario but it's based on my belief that Charles James has a bigger upside and that James and Jackson are better special teams players.
I agree with you and Connor on two things:  
Bobby Epps : 7/15/2014 1:07 pm : link
First, that the Giants will keep 6 CBs because the NFL is a passing league and the Giants do not want to run out of CBs they way did in the Cowboys game, thereby losing the game.

Second, Prince, DRC, Thurmond and Bowman make the final roster, with Thurmond as the Slot CB.

That leaves 2 openings for McBride, Charles James and Bennett Jackson.

I like Jackson to make the final roster because he's around 195 lbs., which is bigger than James or McBride; and has better official measureables in every category than James and McBride except that McBride is much quicker in 10 yds, even though Jackson is no slouch (McBride at 1.51 vs. Jackson at 1.57, with the average NFL vet at 1.59).

As to the 6th opening, it's hard to pick between James and McBride because they're about the same size, quickness, etc. IMO should be decided in training camp but at this time McBride has the edge because he played so well, especially as the Slot CB, and James runs 10 yds. in 1.58. Thurmond should be the starter Slot CB and IMO McBride could be the back-up Slot CB.
CB  
stretch234 : 7/15/2014 1:22 pm : link
I could be totally off base here, but with the number of quality corners, I think we see Fewell using a more aggressive front 7. He now has guys who are bigger, can press, can run and can play the slot.

Plus, anytime this defense does not have to use Rolle as a slot CB the better.

They currently have depth at a position that histroically is hard to find any. Hopefully health is with the team
Imagine how dangerous  
beatrixkiddo : 7/15/2014 1:57 pm : link
this secondary would look if Hill had a better head on his shoulders. You could have made the case that they could be one if not the best secondaries in the game. I think I'm a little worried about the Safety position. Rolle is the only one that is holding that unit together, who knows how Brown will hold up or play, behind him you have Taylor, Demps and Berhe, a whole lot of unknown. The CB's are going to have to live up to their strength and praise. I don't see how we don't carry 6 with the Safeties on this roster.
I'm excited...  
Dunedin81 : 7/15/2014 2:53 pm : link
and I'm especially glad that they seem to be so deep, but one or two injuries could completely change the talent level - of course that is true for any position on the field, but at corner where you need a minimum of three or four healthy guys it is particularly crucial.
and I'd be surprised and puzzled if Hosley makes the team.  
Victor in CT : 7/15/2014 4:07 pm : link
Too small, too dumb, can't tackle, see ya.
Eric  
George from PA : 7/16/2014 6:52 am : link
you got me thinking on McBride.....do you think they PUP him?

The Giants main concern is surviving injuries.....I can see them trying to hide players on temporary IR....PUP....etc.

There is certainly the talent to keep six CBs  
BillT : 7/16/2014 11:44 am : link
The question is where does that player come from. Only four RB/FB, only five LB, only five WR? Tough choices.
Thurmond seems  
muhajir : 7/16/2014 12:15 pm : link
like a really good pick up. I'm curious to see if he plays at the same high level here. Every cb Seattle plugs in does great (Sherman, Browner, Maxwell, and Thurmond). The system and surrounding talent may play a large part in that.
BillT: IMO 4 RBS and no FB because WCO does not need FB.  
Bobby Epps : 7/16/2014 12:19 pm : link
5 WRs because we don't have a 6th NFL-caliber WR on the roster.

5 LBs because we play 2LBs/3d Safety formation so often.
Bobby  
BillT : 7/16/2014 2:03 pm : link
There is zero indication the Giants will go without a FB. They have been using one throughout the OTAs. The Giants activate five WR on the gameday roster. They have kept six on the 53 man, I think, every year TC has been coach. Five LBs is pretty short as well. They activate five for game days. That being said they have had some different roster numbers in recent years.
George  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/16/2014 2:17 pm : link
No, I don't see him being PUPed.

McBride did a nice job for the Giants last year, but I see him at the 5th or 6th best CB on this team now - and a guy with little special teams value.

DRC, Thurmond, and Amukamara are clearly better players.

According to reports, Bowman has looked really good and he is a top-notch special teams player.

I like Charles James' game, personality, and special teams ability.

I think Bennett Jackson - as a 6th corner - has a big upside and in the meantime should excel on specials.

You also have Jayron Hosley on the Suspended List for a month in case someone gets hurt.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/16/2014 2:19 pm : link
Connor and I have our projected 53 man rosters coming out on July 20 and 21.
Eric - i presume a player doesn't count against the Roster  
Jimmy Googs : 7/16/2014 2:24 pm : link
if he is serving a suspension?

If that is the case, maybe Hosley's suspension actually saves him a future roster spot versus getting cut before game 1.

Googs  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/16/2014 2:33 pm : link
no, he doesn't count against the roster. He will be on the Reserve/Suspended list.

It actually may be a blessing in disguise for both Hosley and the Giants.
thurmond is a flat  
area junc : 7/16/2014 3:19 pm : link
out better football player than prince

he has always been a 1st round-type of talent
They will probably keep 10 DBs  
LauderdaleMatty : 7/17/2014 12:33 am : link
It may not come down to the best 6 CBs as they play a lot of big nickel w 3 safties. So a 5 th Saftey might be held onto if they view that player as good on specials and able to play in nickel and dime packages if needed.

Rolle, Brown, Demps are the locks. Then Cooper Taylor and this years draft pick Bherl or what ever his name is might make 5.

Maybe they would have kept on less LB but w Beason out I doubt it now.
I'd be shocked if 6 CBs aren't on the 53  
gersh : 7/17/2014 7:51 am : link
The Giants traditionally fill out the roster based on talent and CB has the most talent

Only keeping 2 QBs will help
I agree that 5 LBs seems likely

Injuries, however, have as much to do with roster decisions as talent. Let's hope decisions can be made on talent alone.
Getting to 53...  
Jimmy Googs : 7/17/2014 2:48 pm : link
I think it would be smart to try and preserve as many roster spots as possible for the Secondary guys since they may be the deepest, most talented group as well as key special teamers.

Hopefully those extra roster spots come from keeping less backup QBs, Tight Ends and Linebackers where the talent pool is clearly weaker.

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