Ever since LeBron James returned to Cleveland, talks have intensified for All-Star power forward Kevin Love.
Rumors have surfaced that the Cavaliers wouldn’t include rookie swingman Andrew Wiggins in any possible deal for the Minnesota Timberwolves’ star.
A league source said on July 17 that the Cavs are now willing to trade the No. 1 overall pick in the 2014 draft.
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A league source said on July 17 that Lebron is now willing to trade the No. 1 overall pick in the 2014 draft.
I have been saying this from the beginning. He chose Cleveland cause they had a ton of young talent to go with some great trading assests. And nothing will change my mind as the days go on. And again... there's absolutely nothing wrong with LeBron choosing this option. If he feels that's his best way to win, then he should do what he wants. I have no problem with him signing with cleveland.
But this coming home angle is just a minor subplot to the whole story.
Lebron goes "home" for maximum dollars, signs a 2-year opt out deal hedging on the new TV deal to get an insane, likely never before seen payday, inherits a roster that could be set to win for the next 5 years, and goes to a team where he and his cabal of childhood friends can basically make the franchise their personal plaything.
Canonized.
There has been talk of him going back to Cleveland for over 2 years now. Not just speculation and people throwing around bullshit. LeBron always planned on going back it was just a matter of when. No better time than now, where he is actually in his prime and can deliver those fans a title instead of coming back when he's 37 and cant bring a title.
I never hated Lebron for going to Miami. That's where he chose to go to create his legacy. Cleveland effed up by putting crappy players around Lebron. He chose to go to Miami for a variety of reasons. I hated him because he didn't come to the Knicks, but that's just being a fan. If you aren't with me, I hate you. Just like I hate Derrick Rose. Just like a hated Jordan. Just like a hated Reggie Miller and Alonzo Mourning and everyone else that beat the Knicks.
This is different. He chose to go to Miami and I think he's running from the challenge by going back to Cleveland and using the "going home" crap to fool the slower fans.
That being said, it's just being a fan. I don't get too worked up over this stuff other than repeating myself a few times on a message board, but I'd probably be talking about painting my house or training my dog if I wasn't so whats the difference?
Lebron was never going to wait. With Irving, Lebron, Love, Cavs become an instant Finals contender and a heck of a good shot of bringing Cleveland a title sometime in the next few years.
Key is Cleveland will have to make sure it fills out enough of a quality bench.
Ummm... I have always said and still think this was his best decision. All I said I think it has to do more with winning than coming home.
I don't even know why you say I hate LeBron when I have given him more props outside a few posters.
And rumor has it his wifey wanted no part of leaving Miami to go to Houston.
Miami will be respectable the next season or two with Deng, Wade still at a so-so level, and Bosh, but they aren't going to win anything and in a few seasons will be a bad team with old declining players on bad deals and some cap problems.
Lebron is no dummy though moving forward. He can see how Bosh no longer plays the same way inside and how Wade is declining fast.
People think Lebron is taking the easy way out are looking at it on paper.
Lebron is now expected to win a championship in Cleveland. He's going back to a pressure packed environment with expectations.
He could have stayed in Miami for another 4 or 5 years and then gone and chased a ring as an aging vet on a close to Finals team.
People think superstars can do it alone. Even the big ones have had a running mate or a balanced supporting cast. They can't win championships on their star power alone. Cleveland surrounded him with a terrible cast the last few seasons he was there before. He saw it and ran at a better opportunity. He handled it terribly in terms of PR and arrogance, but anybody who couldn't see the tea leaves there the 1st time is kidding themselves.
Going back to Cleveland isnt something that just popped into his head 3 weeks ago when he looked up at their roster. A roster by the way that won what, 33 games in a pathetic eastern conference? Stick LeBron on any team in the east and they are probably the favorites. The idea that its some loaded juggernaut that he's walking into is BS.
There is no extra pressure for Lebron now. I'll even go further and say that the other players will feel more pressure than lebron.
No Mook. He doesn't go back to Cleveland if they have a roster like they had when he left. Going home is a nice story (although he left them high and dry 4 years ago and did it in such a manner that people destroyed him for it). But we need to stop with this "Oh it's so nice he went back home to finish what he started when he was drafted!" nonsense. He went back there because they have a team loaded with young talent. If not for that he NEVER goes back there. He reups with the Heat.
The best free agent Cleveland ever signed before LeBron was Larry Hughes. They aren't even anywhere near his radar if he wasn't from Akron. They could have the best team ever and he wouldnt consider it, no one ever considers going there as a big time player.
Pick any of the top 10 teams in the east last year and put LeBron on them and they are instantly favorites to come out of the east, that's how good he is.
LMAO
No one would go anywhere to play with shit in the prime of their career. Somehow criticizing him for not doing that is quite funny.
It was a combination of home and roster. But without that being home, the roster never would have mattered.
Regardless of what their roster looked like I do think he would have gone back before his career was over. Not in the prime of his career like he is now, but he would have gone back.
He has the best of both worlds now, he can maximize his prime with good young players and go back home, and somehow people are criticizing him for that saying he took the easy road.
Who wouldn't take the easy road if it involved them going home to the place they want to be? That's something everyone would love. Home and the easiest road. How more perfect could it be for him? Why shouldn't he want that? Why should he willingly take the much tougher road and not go home?
It's an easy road because LeBron is on the team. He can put any eastern conference team on his back to the nba finals at this point.
I hate this argument. Going to a third team simply wasn't an option if this guy cares one iota about legacy. The best player on the planet going to a 3rd team in his prime to chase rings? Yeah, ok. He'd be labelled a mercenary and he knows that.
He had two options. Cleveland and Miami. Cleveland was far and away the better option, so he went there. It's simple. And I'm thrilled he decided to go there too. Upset that KLove is going there though.
You seem to spend just about as much time defending him.
Shut up
No. The universe blows.
i hope the cavs dont make this trade.
it would be refreshing to see lebron lead the team of young cavs... now back to mercenary style...
No one would go anywhere to play with shit in the prime of their career. Somehow criticizing him for not doing that is quite funny.
It was a combination of home and roster. But without that being home, the roster never would have mattered.
Regardless of what their roster looked like I do think he would have gone back before his career was over. Not in the prime of his career like he is now, but he would have gone back.
He has the best of both worlds now, he can maximize his prime with good young players and go back home, and somehow people are criticizing him for that saying he took the easy road.
Who wouldn't take the easy road if it involved them going home to the place they want to be? That's something everyone would love. Home and the easiest road. How more perfect could it be for him? Why shouldn't he want that? Why should he willingly take the much tougher road and not go home?
No I don't. I never denied that. MY argument is if Cleveland DIDN'T have the talent it has he NEVER goes there, home or not. He would've stayed with the Heat, which was the plan back in 2010, wasn't it? He's the one who said they were going to win more than 4, 5, 6, championships together. His plan wasn't 4 years and I'm out.
I don't begrudge him going back to Cleveland. It's awesome to play in front of your hometown, but let's stop with the prodigal son talk and all that nonsense. He chose them because their arrow is pointing up and Miami's is pointing down. Plain and simple.