keeping him means giving him an extension then "keeping" him is moronic. Who cares about 2014? They are winning a WS? You either extend him (or intend to) or you deal him when his value couldn't be higher (pennant race with 1.5 years remaining, with multiple teams looking for offensive help). Keeping him to "make a run" in 2014 is truly moronic. They have Flores/Herrera. Zero issue extending Murphy, zero issue trading Murphy, MASSIVE issue keeping him to "make a run" in 2014.
if the Mets are playing reasonably well, even if they have no intention of signing him long term. They want to chase attendance revenue badly. Hope I'm wrong.
seems like a crazy amount to walk away from. Yeah maybe he goes to UCLA and pitches amazingly for 3 years and gets more (the draft numbers obviously will slide up) or maybe he goes the JC route and is great but it's a year of development lost, 5 million he may never see. Lots of sad stories (Harrington comes to mind). 5 million is a huge sum. Hope it works out for him.
keeping him means giving him an extension then "keeping" him is moronic. Who cares about 2014? They are winning a WS? You either extend him (or intend to) or you deal him when his value couldn't be higher (pennant race with 1.5 years remaining, with multiple teams looking for offensive help). Keeping him to "make a run" in 2014 is truly moronic. They have Flores/Herrera. Zero issue extending Murphy, zero issue trading Murphy, MASSIVE issue keeping him to "make a run" in 2014.
keep him and try to extend him before next season if not trade him in off season
keeping him means giving him an extension then "keeping" him is moronic. Who cares about 2014? They are winning a WS? You either extend him (or intend to) or you deal him when his value couldn't be higher (pennant race with 1.5 years remaining, with multiple teams looking for offensive help). Keeping him to "make a run" in 2014 is truly moronic. They have Flores/Herrera. Zero issue extending Murphy, zero issue trading Murphy, MASSIVE issue keeping him to "make a run" in 2014.
keep him and try to extend him before next season if not trade him in off season
that's assuming we keep playing as we were prior to break. Speaking of breaks how was yours?
re Murphy, extend him or trade him. Im more in the trade him camp -- between Flores, Herrera, Reynolds, and all the SS prospects we have, we have very good organizational depth capable of manning 2b. Not super excited about paying him into his mid 30s, nor getting crappy compensation when he's the 3rd best UFA who signs with LAD/LAA/NYY after 2015.
As for Aiken, that's crazy ballsy. He needs to be a top 5 pick (3??) to make that 5 million back. He should call up Matt Harrington, the Rockies' #7 overall pick in 2000, who was a 2nd rounder in 2001, then out of the top 10 rounds in 2002 and 2003, and now changes tires at Costco. He passed on $5 million too.
went to Colorado and fell in love with the state. I'm not a winter sports guy so I'm not sure if it would be the place for me year round but awesome state, cool people, tons to do. Oddly saw a lot of people in Mets stuff (ok maybe like 3 but still weird lol) met a Mets fan from... Utah!
if I was Gm. If I was able to add a substantial piece for either LF or SS long term id move him but if im only adding ok pieces in those spots I may keep him
The trading Murphy debate has been beaten to death already Â
nothing good can come from saying these kind of things.
Quote:
Niese disputed the thesis that Mets fans show an abundance of loyalty.
“How can you say that?” Niese said. “We are not filling the stadium. Where are the Mets fans when we are down-and-out? They were here in ’06 and ’07 when we were really good, but we have struggled and they are not coming to the stadium.”
I read the ESPN article that actually reported this, and wasnt "offended":
Quote:
"What do I think of Met fans?" Niese said with a laugh. "That's a good question. I really don't know except they want their team to win, pretty much like any other fan. That is pretty much all I know."
When it was pointed out to him that Mets fans have stuck with their team through a lot of bad times, Niese questioned the sentiment.
"How can you say that?" Niese said. "We are not filling the stadium. Where are the Mets fans when we are down-and-out? They were here in '06 and '07 when we were really good, but we have struggled and they are not coming to the stadium."
The Mets drew 4 million in their final season at Shea in 2008. This year, they may not top 2013's 2.1 million.
He was pushed on the point and chooses not to ignore reality. Have we Mets fans stuck around? Some have, some havent. That's obvious. Revenues are way down -- I'd argue correctly, since the Coupons cut spending. So should Niese send the bosses the message that everything is a-okay? Link - ( New Window )
the fans have not supported the team as they did when the Mets were winning games and in contention. The player is not about to question his boss, however, so it's easy to point and say the fans are fickle because they only show up when the team wins.
I read that the Mets have the 3rd best ratings this year. NYY and DET are 1 and 2. LAD ratings have tanked since apparently only a third of households in LA get the Dodgers' channel.
I think it's pretty Amazin' that the Mets are #3 in ratings when we're nearly eliminated by the ASG and are suffering clear fan abuse. Mets are lucky to have the fan base they have.
Frankly, I'm really uninterested in moving Wheeler. Definitely not with Syndergaard. There are other guys I'd rather include to pump up the value of the package.
keep him and try to extend him before next season if not trade him in off season
Quote:
keeping him means giving him an extension then "keeping" him is moronic. Who cares about 2014? They are winning a WS? You either extend him (or intend to) or you deal him when his value couldn't be higher (pennant race with 1.5 years remaining, with multiple teams looking for offensive help). Keeping him to "make a run" in 2014 is truly moronic. They have Flores/Herrera. Zero issue extending Murphy, zero issue trading Murphy, MASSIVE issue keeping him to "make a run" in 2014.
keep him and try to extend him before next season if not trade him in off season
that's assuming we keep playing as we were prior to break. Speaking of breaks how was yours?
As for Aiken, that's crazy ballsy. He needs to be a top 5 pick (3??) to make that 5 million back. He should call up Matt Harrington, the Rockies' #7 overall pick in 2000, who was a 2nd rounder in 2001, then out of the top 10 rounds in 2002 and 2003, and now changes tires at Costco. He passed on $5 million too.
“How can you say that?” Niese said. “We are not filling the stadium. Where are the Mets fans when we are down-and-out? They were here in ’06 and ’07 when we were really good, but we have struggled and they are not coming to the stadium.”
Link - ( New Window )
When it was pointed out to him that Mets fans have stuck with their team through a lot of bad times, Niese questioned the sentiment.
"How can you say that?" Niese said. "We are not filling the stadium. Where are the Mets fans when we are down-and-out? They were here in '06 and '07 when we were really good, but we have struggled and they are not coming to the stadium."
The Mets drew 4 million in their final season at Shea in 2008. This year, they may not top 2013's 2.1 million.
He was pushed on the point and chooses not to ignore reality. Have we Mets fans stuck around? Some have, some havent. That's obvious. Revenues are way down -- I'd argue correctly, since the Coupons cut spending. So should Niese send the bosses the message that everything is a-okay?
Link - ( New Window )
I think it's pretty Amazin' that the Mets are #3 in ratings when we're nearly eliminated by the ASG and are suffering clear fan abuse. Mets are lucky to have the fan base they have.
In other news, I started a game thread.
game thread - ( New Window )