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NFT: And the Yankees are in discussions to trade for???????

EJJ : 7/18/2014 1:15 pm
MAKE A MOVE FOR GODS SAKE!!!!!!!!!
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I'd be all for trading Robertson  
kmed : 7/18/2014 2:35 pm : link
if we can get something good for him. Aside from that, I wouldn't look to do much else. I definitely wouldn't trade prospects in an attempt to make one more run for Jeter. I would be ok trading Robertson, putting Betances in the closer role and bringing up some young guys and see if we can make a run like that. Trading Kuroda at this point would be giving up, IMO. I'd re-evaluate where they are at the deadline before trading Kuroda.

Aside from that, I'm not sure who else we have that could net some good prospects. I wouldn't trade Gardner unless it's for a good young pitcher and that's not happening.
considering the state of their pitching staff  
sinctybldh : 7/18/2014 2:36 pm : link
i am curious if they will go all in on the free agent market once again after the season.
I would hope they have learned  
kmed : 7/18/2014 2:37 pm : link
a lesson regarding signing pitchers in FA. Fools gold.
Scherzer 6/$155  
Dunedin81 : 7/18/2014 2:39 pm : link
That's my bold prediction.
They should have signed  
Phil in LA : 7/18/2014 2:39 pm : link
some of the Cubans that have been available over the past several years. That would have given them a bridge to the kids who are coming up now.
Didn't the Yankees just go nuts on international FA's?  
kmed : 7/18/2014 2:41 pm : link
Any of those kids close to playing or are they 3-5 year projects?
the Yankees should sell  
Matt in SGS : 7/18/2014 2:43 pm : link
but they will make the same mistake they did last year. Last year they wanted to be at least in the race for Mo's last season, even though they should have traded Cano. This year, with an extra Wild Card, a crappy AL East, and Jeter's last year, they won't sell either. As mentioned above, they don't have much people want. Robertson has the most value, and they probably should move him and let's see what Betances can do as the closer...but they won't do that.

If they won't sell, I hope they just don't buy and use up any kind of decent trade chips on the farm or bring in some other older guy/bad contract.

Cashman will do what he usually does, scour the DFA scrap heap for anyone, look for an older guy with a bad contract to absorb, and hope that his pitchers get healthy and he gets some of his starters back in August from injury and he'll proclaim "it's just like a trade".

RE: They should have signed  
HomerJones45 : 7/18/2014 2:46 pm : link
In comment 11772390 Phil in LA said:
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some of the Cubans that have been available over the past several years. That would have given them a bridge to the kids who are coming up now.
Yep, and they wouldn't have been a bridge. That would have been the nucleus of the team. Puig, Ramirez, Abreu, they whiffed on all of them.
Sit tight.  
BlueHurricane : 7/18/2014 2:46 pm : link
If anything trade D-Rob for some prospects. This team needs a complete overhaul and no matter who they trade for they aint winning shit this year.
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GiantFilthy : 7/18/2014 2:46 pm : link
i did state they should have went after abreu all off season  
sinctybldh : 7/18/2014 2:51 pm : link
the stupid thing is he is exactly what this team needs. A middle of the order power bat. I have no idea why this team keeps passing on talented Cuban players. They could have used pretty much all of them to stay as contenders.
RE: Didn't the Yankees just go nuts on international FA's?  
Dunedin81 : 7/18/2014 2:55 pm : link
In comment 11772392 kmed said:
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Any of those kids close to playing or are they 3-5 year projects?


Probably closer to five years. Maybe a phenom could do it in 3-4, but the best won't get stateside until next spring.
Leonardo Molina  
sinctybldh : 7/18/2014 2:57 pm : link
the Yankees prize from last year is really struggling as a 16 year old. It could take 5 to 6 years for him to reach the majors.
RE: Leonardo Molina  
Dunedin81 : 7/18/2014 2:58 pm : link
In comment 11772414 sinctybldh said:
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the Yankees prize from last year is really struggling as a 16 year old. It could take 5 to 6 years for him to reach the majors.


Andujar really struggled his first year in the GCL and then destroyed the GCL last year. Torrens struggled in his first stateside year too (last year) and now is destroying the NYP.
I bet the Yankees find some way to send middling prospects  
BeerFridge : 7/18/2014 2:59 pm : link
for the right to pay old ass Cliff Lee a shit ton of money. It's just so consistent with what they've done.
yep  
sinctybldh : 7/18/2014 3:02 pm : link
both still have a long road ahead of them. Watching most of our prospects struggle when they get to Tampa or Trenton really gives me pause. You would like to get excited about them, but you also don't want to get so excited to the point where it ends in disappointment. The only player right now that we can say with certainty that has a chance to be a good major leaguer is Refsnyder.
RE: yep  
Dunedin81 : 7/18/2014 3:05 pm : link
In comment 11772426 sinctybldh said:
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both still have a long road ahead of them. Watching most of our prospects struggle when they get to Tampa or Trenton really gives me pause. You would like to get excited about them, but you also don't want to get so excited to the point where it ends in disappointment. The only player right now that we can say with certainty that has a chance to be a good major leaguer is Refsnyder.


We haven't had a phenom at the plate in awhile. Montero was close but even he was pretty much a level a year because of position.
OH SNAP!!  
GiantFilthy : 7/18/2014 3:05 pm : link
You guys don't even have to trade for him now. Just pick him up! Big day in Atlanta!

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ya i am not sure we have any phenoms  
sinctybldh : 7/18/2014 3:07 pm : link
maybe Severino? I am curious to see if he can get over the Trenton hump. It may take time though because he is so young for the level.
sin,  
Phil in LA : 7/18/2014 3:09 pm : link
I think he's the only 16 year old in the GCL. He's doing fine considering he's so much younger than everyone else and we won't see what it means for awhile.

As for the IFA's from earlier this month, most of them are 5/6 years away, but some are a little older and could be 4 years aways, and who knows about the pitchers.
I think he'll manage...  
Dunedin81 : 7/18/2014 3:10 pm : link
good stuff and pitchability will play anywhere.

As for phenoms, Andujar is probably as good a candidate as any. Tearing the cover off the ball lately, took awhile to adjust to day games. Really struggling against lefties and he'll have to work on that, but he does just about everything well.
Yanks should be sellers (realistically)  
dpinzow : 7/18/2014 4:11 pm : link
but they don't even have that much to sell
RE: Gardner is the best player on the team  
The Natural : 7/18/2014 4:26 pm : link
In comment 11772359 mac attack said:
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who has a fair contract. Moving him makes zero sense, plus there are not many players with his skill set. Great lead off guys, steals bases, plays a spectacular OF, he strikes out a little too much, but who doesn't?


You're right of course. The Yankees should trade all the garbage they've accumulated over the last few years.

Teams will stand in line to give up their best prospects. Then they can keep Gardner and maybe get into the playoffs.
EJJ  
Semipro Lineman : 7/18/2014 4:45 pm : link
I hope the Yankees don't do anything just to annoy you
In other news  
Greg from LI : 7/18/2014 5:05 pm : link
CC's season officially is over as he will undergo knee surgery.
...  
christian : 7/18/2014 5:48 pm : link
I know it's easy to criticize the splurge and the lack of international successes, but it's also reasonable to remember this team has lost 4/5 of their opening day rotation. Any intellectually honest fan realizes that is shitty, shitty luck. The Sox last year were the latest reminder health and vet talent are big chips in winning. If the Yanks don't lose just Pineda and Tanaka and BM had a career average year we are probably +4 games in the loss column.
Only  
DanMetroMan : 7/18/2014 8:47 pm : link
a true freak goes from 7/2 signee to MLB in less than 3-4 years. Even Miggy took 3.5 years and he was considered a true freak.
Yeah they've had awful luck with pitcher health...  
Dunedin81 : 7/18/2014 8:56 pm : link
but the lineup is nothing special and was relying on a lot to come together. Roberts to stay healthy, Teix to stay healthy and produce, lightning to strike on someone playing 3B. The closest thing to a "known" in the infield was a 40 year old singles hitter playing SS and recovering from an ankle injury.
I would have to guess quite a bit is riding on Cliff Lee's  
Phil in LA : 7/18/2014 10:08 pm : link
start on Monday.
Soti in Seattle says  
capone : 7/18/2014 10:09 pm : link
The yanks are asking about Ackley to play 2b for a prospect
Ackley's been horrible  
Phil in LA : 7/18/2014 10:11 pm : link
this year.
Hopefully that's all bullshit  
Greg from LI : 7/18/2014 10:14 pm : link
Because trading anyone for a scrub like Ackley when they have Refsnyder waiting in AAA would be asinine.
Yanks aren't the only ones...  
Dunedin81 : 7/18/2014 10:37 pm : link
who think a change of scenery could fix what ails him.
fix  
Phil in LA : 7/18/2014 10:48 pm : link
whom?
Ackley  
Dunedin81 : 7/18/2014 10:52 pm : link
...
We have Refs and Pirela  
Phil in LA : 7/18/2014 11:14 pm : link
and they both look like better hitters right now.
That's what he said  
capone : 7/19/2014 12:04 am : link
Don't shoot the messenger
Ackley is worth a shot  
RasputinPrime : 7/19/2014 12:15 am : link
if he can be had for a piece Seattle is hungry for help this year.
I think we're either trading for  
Phil in LA : 7/19/2014 12:21 am : link
Cliff Lee or IPK and Chase Headley if we trade.
cliff lee makes 0 sense  
sinctybldh : 7/19/2014 12:45 am : link
dont want a pitcher at the end of his career.
So you want to give up  
Phil in LA : 7/19/2014 12:50 am : link
all the good prospects for one who's just an injury away from the end of his career, like all pitchers are?
huh?  
sinctybldh : 7/19/2014 12:57 am : link
did u misread what I wrote? I said he makes 0 sense for the yankees to trade for him.
You said makes 0 sense for the Yankees  
Phil in LA : 7/19/2014 1:03 am : link
because you don't want a pitcher at the end of his career.

The reason he makes any sense at all for the Yankees is because they won't have to decimate the farm for him.

But, for any young top rotation guy, they would have to decimate the farm.

Thus, since we both know they will trade for a starter, that must be the formula that makes sense to you.
I think they will trade  
sinctybldh : 7/19/2014 1:05 am : link
for someone like Brandon McCarthy. Someone that won't cost a lot. I don't think they are going to trade for Cliff Lee because he has ridiculous money still owed to him and can't stay healthy.
I don't know who else they're looking at  
Phil in LA : 7/19/2014 1:11 am : link
but hopefully it is someone like Brandon McCarthy and doesn't cost much. All these injuries should be a reasonable message to them that this ain't their year.
I agree with u  
sinctybldh : 7/19/2014 1:16 am : link
they are within striking distance since the division is weak so they will probably do their best to stay in it. I know Cashman usually likes to go bargain hunting so hopefully he sticks with that.
I would prefer they didn't buy...  
Dunedin81 : 7/19/2014 7:31 am : link
but if they do I hope it's guys with multiple years of team control or middling guys. No two month or even fourteen month rentals.
Today's win probably moves Cashman  
Phil in LA : 7/19/2014 4:19 pm : link
closer to talking about how "this team deserves a chance."
Scherzer  
old man : 7/19/2014 7:11 pm : link
Lester, offseason; Hamels in a trade?-- negates Lester
RE: Soti in Seattle says  
Kulish29 : 7/20/2014 5:37 am : link
In comment 11772748 capone said:
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The yanks are asking about Ackley to play 2b for a prospect


Do you ever get tired of being full of shit?
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