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NFT: NYR to sign Lee Stempniak

Giantfootball025 : 7/18/2014 10:54 pm
according to Dreger

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Darren Dreger & #8207;@DarrenDreger 6m

Lee Stempniak is closing in on a 1 yr agreement with the NY Rangers.
Well that's swell  
Greg from LI : 7/18/2014 11:18 pm : link
Good to see we're getting our depth guys from the worst fourth line in hockey.
seems like another buffer  
Phil in LA : 7/18/2014 11:27 pm : link
between the kids and the NHL.
I just don't get it.  
yatqb : 7/18/2014 11:30 pm : link
I'd rather have Boyle than Glass and Stepniak. At least BBB could win faceoffs, play a great PK and be relatively physical when he played wing on the 4th line. WTF is it with Sather?
you know this will be a low $ deal  
SethFromAstoria : 7/18/2014 11:31 pm : link
how is this bad at all? I dont get it
I like the signing  
Giantfootball025 : 7/18/2014 11:34 pm : link
I'm not sure how the Lines will look but Stemp is a top 9 player. Replaces BP's point production.
It's bad because Glass and Stempniak suck  
Greg from LI : 7/19/2014 1:24 am : link
Pittsburgh had one of the worst bottom sixes in hockey and the Rangers added two of them.
the fuckin shit show continues..  
Davisian : 7/19/2014 1:40 am : link
Lose two thirds of a fourth line that played huge minutes to a final run, a top 4 defenseman and a big part of a very productive 2/3rd line and while some of them got more than they're worth, they get replaced by an old ass defenseman and a bunch of waiver fodder, while blocking all young guys knocking at the door.

And don't give me this shit about "fighting for spots", there's still a cap hit for sending vets down, so we know that won't happen..

And its not like they're getting bigger or tougher to play against..

Then the next stage will be putting the screws to the rfa's that are actually productive..

Tanner Glass, joey bag of Lombardi and Lee fuckin stempniak?

Parade of sleds..

Great fuckin plan, slats..



Stempniak was a former teammate of Hugh Jessiman  
Mike in NY : 7/19/2014 7:08 am : link
I remember watching both play in college and I hated watching my team go up against Stempniak because whatever we seemed to try he would always get points. Jessiman, if you were physical with him, you could take him out of the game. When he has been given top 9 minutes (on a team that actually cares about getting offensive production out of the third line) he has been a 35-45 point player and his +/- is not bad fora guy who does not exactly get loads of power play time and has played on some awful teams in his career
Dave  
PaulN : 7/19/2014 9:26 am : link
Sather sucks, and I have been saying it for a long time.
$900k  
vonritz : 7/19/2014 10:04 am : link
for a 3rd, possible 4th liner if some of the kids show improvement. Oh yes, the world is coming to an end and the season is already over for the Eastern Conference champs. Damn the fact he brings more consistent point production than Brian Boyle. The top 6 is still very intact and the D is still very deep and one of the best in the NHL. Jesus H Christ the drama queens out there are a hoot.
Assuming it's a cheap signing, I like it  
Anakim : 7/19/2014 10:15 am : link
A bottom-six guy who will net a few goals and provide veteran leadership.


However, it would be much better if we didn't give Tanner fucking Glass 1.5 AAV. What a pointless signing



Can we please get Zucc, Kreider and Brassard locked up?
Good deal  
Anakim : 7/19/2014 10:26 am : link
Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie 7m
Stempniak in at one year, $900.000 for #NYR. Who else didn't play well for Pens against NYR in playoffs that team can sign?


A bottom-six guy with some skill, who will provide PK and veteran leadership? I'll take it for that cap hit.


Now, lock up Zuccs, Brassard and Kreider and sign Kevin Hayes and maybe make a minor trade or two to shore up the roster and clear some cap space.
He must be really bad  
Deej : 7/19/2014 10:29 am : link
if Sather didnt give him 3 years.
Pouliot  
Franz69 : 7/19/2014 10:45 am : link
had two more points than Stempniak last year. Edmonton signed Pouliot for $20 mil over 5 years. We got Stempniak for 1 year, $900k. Love you Slats, you magnificent, cigar-chomping, scotch-swilling motherfucker!
The lines:  
Anakim : 7/19/2014 10:48 am : link
Kreider - Stepan - St. Louis
Nash - Brassard - Zuccarello
Hagelin - Miller - Stempniak
Glass - Moore - Lombardi

McDonagh Girardi
Staal Boyle
Moore Klein


Well...we downgraded as a whole from last year, but IDK, I still think we're a playoff team. I could see Sather still making a trade for a Top-6 C and using JT Miller and Danny Kristo as trade bait, but I could also see Sather calling it a day.
RE: the fuckin shit show continues..  
BrettNYG10 : 7/19/2014 11:58 am : link
In comment 11772817 Davisian said:
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Lose two thirds of a fourth line that played huge minutes to a final run, a top 4 defenseman and a big part of a very productive 2/3rd line and while some of them got more than they're worth, they get replaced by an old ass defenseman and a bunch of waiver fodder, while blocking all young guys knocking at the door.

And don't give me this shit about "fighting for spots", there's still a cap hit for sending vets down, so we know that won't happen..

And its not like they're getting bigger or tougher to play against..

Then the next stage will be putting the screws to the rfa's that are actually productive..

Tanner Glass, joey bag of Lombardi and Lee fuckin stempniak?

Parade of sleds..

Great fuckin plan, slats..




Hey, Slats has made significant investment in the fourth line:

Unrelated but fuck  
Sonic Youth : 7/19/2014 12:12 pm : link
I really hate losing Stralman, this signing makes me think about FA as a whole and how garbage its been to the rangers
look on the bright side  
oipolloi : 7/19/2014 1:55 pm : link
by January the Wolfpack will have Glass and Stempniak leading their charge to the playoffs.
Rangers could not afford Stralman  
oipolloi : 7/19/2014 1:57 pm : link
I'm sure Sather would have kept him if he had the room.

Boyle is his big fuck up. The way BB played in the postseason, 3/6 is an absolute steal.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 7/19/2014 1:58 pm : link
We could have afforded Stralman if we didn't sign Dan Boyle.

Brian Boyle wanted a third line role. He wasn't going to get one here.
so, after seeing the Rangers bulldozed by the Kings' size  
oipolloi : 7/19/2014 2:03 pm : link
Sather lets his biggest player walk and signs a bunch of journeymen who are under six feet

In general, I'm probably one of the biggest Sather supporters on here, and I like the signing of Danny Boyle a lot. But these "little" moves are always Slats' downfall.
I'll take Dan Boyle any day  
NVA_Blue : 7/19/2014 2:07 pm : link
over Stralman, especially with the shorter term. He can play the PP, and there is no reason to believe that Klein cant step up into Stralman's space on the second pairing. Remember whoever is on that pairing will be playing with Staal, so there is no reason to expect a drop off in production from that pairing.

I dont mind the Stempniak signing. He can play third/fourth line minutes, occasionally score, plays sound defensively. The Rangers weren't going out and splurging on big name guys with their cap situation, and this signing fits the mold of the bargain basement shopping sather has done the past few seasons with some success.

Sign the RFAs to team friendly deals and no-one will be complaining looking back on this offseason. Wringing your hands about Lombardi/Stempniak/Glass makes little sense in the grand scheme of things
RE: ....  
oipolloi : 7/19/2014 2:11 pm : link
In comment 11773021 BrettNYG10 said:
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We could have afforded Stralman if we didn't sign Dan Boyle.

Brian Boyle wanted a third line role. He wasn't going to get one here.


I don't buy it. Boyle had a huge role in the postseason, and AV showed tremendous confidence in him. The 25 playoff games last year are the total highlight of his career.

Third/fourth liners like Boyle are going to go for the money because their career earning potential is limited. So, if Boyle did not sign with Rangers, it is because Sather did not offer him the same money as TB.
RE: RE: ....  
MookGiants : 7/19/2014 2:13 pm : link
In comment 11773031 oipolloi said:
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In comment 11773021 BrettNYG10 said:


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We could have afforded Stralman if we didn't sign Dan Boyle.

Brian Boyle wanted a third line role. He wasn't going to get one here.



I don't buy it. Boyle had a huge role in the postseason, and AV showed tremendous confidence in him. The 25 playoff games last year are the total highlight of his career.

Third/fourth liners like Boyle are going to go for the money because their career earning potential is limited. So, if Boyle did not sign with Rangers, it is because Sather did not offer him the same money as TB.


Since their earning potential is limited, they need to maximize that potential. Playing on the 3rd line somewhere else over the next 3 years could set him up to have better seasons and therefore get a bigger contract next time around.
Danny Boyle  
oipolloi : 7/19/2014 2:21 pm : link
Living out in the Bay Area, I watch a lot of Shark games, both on TV and in person (Tank is a lot of fun)

Danny Boyle has the best ice vision I have ever seen. Great outlet passes. Tremendous at bringing the puck up the center of the ice. That's where the Kings killed the Rangers--forcing them to the sides.

At 37, he is obviously not the same player he was five years ago. But is still a huge upgrade on offense. Where he will hurt you a bit is in your own end. But it will be worth the tradeoff.
RE: RE: RE: ....  
oipolloi : 7/19/2014 2:27 pm : link
In comment 11773032 MookGiants said:
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In comment 11773031 oipolloi said:


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In comment 11773021 BrettNYG10 said:


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We could have afforded Stralman if we didn't sign Dan Boyle.

Brian Boyle wanted a third line role. He wasn't going to get one here.



I don't buy it. Boyle had a huge role in the postseason, and AV showed tremendous confidence in him. The 25 playoff games last year are the total highlight of his career.

Third/fourth liners like Boyle are going to go for the money because their career earning potential is limited. So, if Boyle did not sign with Rangers, it is because Sather did not offer him the same money as TB.



Since their earning potential is limited, they need to maximize that potential. Playing on the 3rd line somewhere else over the next 3 years could set him up to have better seasons and therefore get a bigger contract next time around.


Boyle is going to be 30 next season. I don't think he is trying to set up a bigger payday down the road. This will probably be the biggest contract he ever gets. That's why he took the money with TB.

RE: RE: ....  
BrettNYG10 : 7/19/2014 2:29 pm : link
In comment 11773031 oipolloi said:
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In comment 11773021 BrettNYG10 said:


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We could have afforded Stralman if we didn't sign Dan Boyle.

Brian Boyle wanted a third line role. He wasn't going to get one here.



I don't buy it. Boyle had a huge role in the postseason, and AV showed tremendous confidence in him. The 25 playoff games last year are the total highlight of his career.

Third/fourth liners like Boyle are going to go for the money because their career earning potential is limited. So, if Boyle did not sign with Rangers, it is because Sather did not offer him the same money as TB.


Vigneault told him that he'd have the same role next season. He said so on breakup day. Sather could have offered him the same amount.
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