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kmed : 7/19/2014 11:14 am
I'm trying to get back into football mode. Last year I wanted to make sure I came out of the first round with a top tier RB and I drafted Lynch at the back end of the first. Turned out to be a great pick. Reports are that Lynch will have less carries this year. Anyone concerned with his carries?

I also ended up trading for Peyton last year which carried me to a championship. Where do you take Peyton this year? Am I crazy if I consider him in the top of the first round?
Last year  
dep026 : 7/19/2014 11:29 am : link
I went with the drafting RBs early and often (took 3 in the first 5 rounds), and two of them turned out to be absolute busts. I think in the first 3 rounds, you take as sure things as possible. I believe most fantasy leagues are win with pickins in round 5 or after. Usually the people who win their leagues get someone in round 10 that produce at the top of their position.

Remember all the hype for Spiller, Martin, Rice, etc. Just didnt do it.

So if you think Manning is going to get you 50 TDs again, you dont even hesitate to take him #1 and worry about other positions later. Julius Thomas, Zac Stacey, Josh Gordon among many others were taken much later in drafts and wound up being absolute steals.

Id have Manning in the 4-5 range along with McCoy, AP, Charles. After that, its really a crapshoot. I dont know outside the big 3 RBs who is worth taking, since there are risks with a ton of them. Morris, Lynch, Foster, Ball, Mathews, Forte, Lacy all have huge question marks.

I wouldnt be surprised to see 3 QBs go in the first round of my draft this year.
I haven't even begun to start my research and rankings,  
kmed : 7/19/2014 11:30 am : link
so I can't possibly comment on positional targets. I will say that in a vacuum, I do not agree with you that you should grab the best players in teh first 3 rounds. Position should absolutely play a role.
RE: I haven't even begun to start my research and rankings,  
dep026 : 7/19/2014 11:36 am : link
In comment 11772935 kmed said:
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so I can't possibly comment on positional targets. I will say that in a vacuum, I do not agree with you that you should grab the best players in teh first 3 rounds. Position should absolutely play a role.


Depnds who your players are. Say you end up with a Brady, McCoy, and Demaryius Thomas? Do you not have a great foundation? Now I dont mean go and draft 3 RBs or 3 WRs right off the bat. But lets say you take Megatron with the 8th or 9th pick, and Brees is sitting there in the next round... and the next best options are Bush, Morris, Lacy.... do you pass on Brees? I wouldnt. So you take a RB later than most people. A lot of RBs that fall to rounds 4-6 usually end up as 2nd or 3rd round values.

A guy like Doug Martin may slip this year. Or Andre Ellington in round 5-6 may be there. I just hate the notion that you have to grab a RB in round 1-2. Unless its the top 3 right now, I am not going to overdraft a position just to have 1.
I think the strategy of targetting a RB in rd 1 for me  
kmed : 7/19/2014 12:00 pm : link
was the right strategy. The key is to draft the right guys. There was a clear cut upper tier and I was sure to get one. I passed on some guys that were ranked in the upper tier that ended up not being there by the end of the season. I didn't agree with your strategy last year.
RE: I think the strategy of targetting a RB in rd 1 for me  
dep026 : 7/19/2014 12:07 pm : link
In comment 11772951 kmed said:
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was the right strategy. The key is to draft the right guys. There was a clear cut upper tier and I was sure to get one. I passed on some guys that were ranked in the upper tier that ended up not being there by the end of the season. I didn't agree with your strategy last year.


Yeah my strategy sucked last year and it wasn't even planned. Had the 9th and got a steal in charles. Then took mjd in 3rd and miller in 5th. Took a gamble on gronk. It was just a bad year.

I always like to have top wrs. .. so if I am the last pick of round 1... I may think of doubling up with Calvin and green/bryant. Again... outside the top 3 rbs. .. I have no idea what to think after them. Seems a little tougher this year IMO.
I also took MJD in teh 3rd,  
kmed : 7/19/2014 12:15 pm : link
but I moved on from him rather quickly. Ended up coming back to him later in the season though and he did well for me. You are right though, these leagues are usually won by finding steals later on and in FA. That being said, missing on your first round pick can be devastating too.
I was messing around on espn's mock draft last night  
ojeda26 : 7/19/2014 12:35 pm : link
I had the 6th pick. Was able to snag, Marshawn Lynch, AJ Green, Alshon Jeffrey, Victor Cruz, and Ryan Mathews in the first 5 rounds. Before my first pick the top 3 rbs were off the board as well as manning and megatron.
That doesn't look too realistic. Speaking of mock drafts.  
kmed : 7/19/2014 12:41 pm : link
I was going on and on in all of my mock drafts about how I stole Nicks by getting him in rd 5. I told anyone who will listen that he's a steal there. Whoops.
In regards to Giants players.....  
kmed : 7/19/2014 12:56 pm : link
I love Rashard Jennings this year. I wouldn't take him early or anything, but I think he's going to be a workhorse type of back that catches the ball and scores TD's too. Very underrated player, IMO.
I dont like Lynch this year  
Mr. Nickels : 7/19/2014 11:26 pm : link
in general I hate drafting guys that just won the Super Bowl. Typically the hunger just isn't there the following year..
Sleeper Justin Hunter  
CruzShip52 : 7/20/2014 10:27 am : link
Keep an eye out
Is it a ppr league?  
pjcas18 : 7/20/2014 10:51 am : link
last year (in a keeper league, so a little bit different) I kept Adrian Peterson and Doug Martin and in the first round LeSean McCoy was sitting there and I could not pass him up.

So, I took McCoy.
I had McCoy, AP and Doug Martin.

The rest of my team was a disaster and Martin was awful.

My QB's were Luck and Kaepernick. My WR's were Roddy White, Hakeem Nicks and some other busts.

I came in 2nd to last place.

RBs  
UConn4523 : 7/20/2014 4:37 pm : link
in round 1 scare me. You can doom your season with a bust in the 1st round and RBs get injured more, and get stats vultured by backups.
I think AP is almost done  
UConn4523 : 7/20/2014 4:38 pm : link
so I'll be passing on him this year unless he's there late 1st.
So Kmed  
pjcas18 : 7/20/2014 8:27 pm : link
no plans for your buddy to put out a new cheat sheet for 2014? I love the ADP and other stuff in there.
I had the 1st pick in my draft last year..  
arcarsenal : 7/20/2014 8:38 pm : link
Took AP and wound up not getting much value out of it. Not that he was bad but he certainly didn't give me the return I needed.

I snagged Foles mid year which helped me out (I got Brady in the 5th and thought it was a steal but he just didn't have a big year). Made it to the Finals but wound up losing. Marshall and VJax were a nice WR tandem for me.
Me too arc  
BigBlueShock : 7/20/2014 8:46 pm : link
AP was as consensus a top pick as I've seen since playing fantasy football. We drew draft order the day of the draft, and I got the number 1 pick. Obviously took AP. He didn't back up the expectations, for sure. That was year one of a keeper league that we are keeping two players, so I have to keep him, but I'm thinking maybe I should try to trade him on draft day, see what I can get. I just don't know if I believe that he's done. He was the best player in the NFL two years ago
AP  
pjcas18 : 7/20/2014 9:25 pm : link
is not on my list of targeted players, but if he falls where I want him I'd still draft him.

I do wonder how Bridgewater will impact him, if Bridgewater becomes the starter midway through the season, since I have no faith Matt Cassel or Christian Ponder will do anything on that team, how does that impact Peterson. Could be a positive, but in all likelihood will mean at best inconsistency.

So, considering the fact that come playoff time AP will possibly be in front of a struggling rookie I think he'd need to fall quite a bit for me to find a lot of value.
Anyone have any guesses  
dep026 : 7/20/2014 9:35 pm : link
who takes the next step to superstardom. A guy like Antonio Brown became a top 5-7 WR last year. Anyone like someone like that?

I am going to go with Randall Cobb. I think he surpasses Jordy as the packers best WR this year and has a monster year. 1,300 yards and 14 TDs.
cobb  
CruzShip52 : 7/20/2014 9:39 pm : link
Was a 2nd or 3rd rd pick last year then got hurt
He is gonna go high this year too im very high on him but in my eyes hes already at that level
Does  
pjcas18 : 7/20/2014 9:41 pm : link
TY Hilton count? I think he becomes a top 10 WR this year.
Jeremy Maclin  
BigBlueShock : 7/20/2014 9:43 pm : link
may be a guy that takes the next step. If he can stay healthy. He's the number 1 in a high octane offense
Good call on maclin.  
kmed : 7/21/2014 8:06 am : link
Pj, not likely for the masses, no.
Cobb has a ton of value because of the way they use him.  
arcarsenal : 7/21/2014 8:28 am : link
They line him up everywhere, just get the ball in his hands and let him make plays. I had him targeted last year (and drafted him) but he wound up missing like 10 games.
I think nicks takes too much away  
kmed : 7/21/2014 8:46 am : link
from Hilton.
I believe Alshon Jeffrey and Michael Floyd  
MadPlaid : 7/21/2014 11:10 am : link
are both going to have big breakout seasons this year.
.  
arcarsenal : 7/21/2014 11:13 am : link
They both kind of had big breakout seasons last year.
Yes, that is true, arc  
MadPlaid : 7/21/2014 11:41 am : link
I mention them because I think they will both continue to take big steps forward and become much more reliable.
Alshon will always have a place in my heart  
kmed : 7/21/2014 12:22 pm : link
as he was a key reason I won my league(s) last year.
Luck should be a top 3-4 qb this year  
CruzShip52 : 7/21/2014 12:25 pm : link
Anyone know when yahoo pro leagues start?
Jeffrey  
pjcas18 : 7/21/2014 12:26 pm : link
was 9th in my league among WR's last year, so I consider him already broken out.

He'll be drafted very highly.

And to think for keepers going in to 2013 I didn't keep Peyton Manning, Brandon Marshall, or Dez Bryant, but I kept Peterson and Doug Martin.

Might have been a very different story for me.
I really think Maclin is a good bet to break out.  
kmed : 7/21/2014 12:29 pm : link
High powered passing offense, no more DJax. Not a lot of proven vets on the roster. I will be curious to see his ADP.
pj,  
kmed : 7/21/2014 12:30 pm : link
if you have my email, shoot me an email when you get a shot. If not, dont' worry about it.
I Maclin too  
pjcas18 : 7/21/2014 12:31 pm : link
only he's been unhealthy and injury prone.

I think Foles likes Cooper better.

RE: pj,  
pjcas18 : 7/21/2014 12:36 pm : link
In comment 11774691 kmed said:
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if you have my email, shoot me an email when you get a shot. If not, dont' worry about it.


just emailed you from my aol account
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