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RUMOR: Chris Snee will retire tomorrow

Vin_Cuccs : 7/20/2014 4:23 pm
Don't shoot the messenger.

I know this has been discussed quite a bit here in the last week or so in light of the article from Jordan Raanan but I just heard from a source that Snee will in fact announce his retirement before training camp begins.

A very close friend of mine is an attorney in New York/New Jersey and an attorney his department is an agent for a few NFL players.

Every now and then he will toss me a few pieces of info and he has been correct in the past.

I am not guaranteeing accuracy, but his text was
"Chris Snee will retire tomorrow. You heard it here first."

Again, don't shoot the messenger, just passing along information.
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SanFranGiantsFan : 7/20/2014 4:25 pm : link
Wouldn't be surprising & hopefully people will remember him for the player he once was, not the player he currently is. He was a great, great Giant. But nobody can avoid Father Time.

So who starts? Jerry?
Not too surprising  
jgambrosio : 7/20/2014 4:26 pm : link
What does this mean from a cap perspective?
How would this  
Jolly Blue Giant : 7/20/2014 4:26 pm : link
Effect out cap?
Thanks Vin  
Matt in SGS : 7/20/2014 4:28 pm : link
there have been more than a few rumbles that this was going to eventually end up this way, particularly if he won't be able to pass a physical before camp starts.
damn sucks to hear  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 7/20/2014 4:31 pm : link
he was such a beast for us in his prime. He was such an important draft pick for this franchise because of everything we gave up in the Eli trade. With that 2nd round pick we got an elite OG and a player who was apart of 2 Championships. His play had clearly taken a couple of steps back in recent years and you knew it was unlikely he'd ever bounce back. Sucks but I wish the man well in his post-football life.
Damn that sucks!  
Big Rick in FL : 7/20/2014 4:37 pm : link
Would have loved to see him come back to 75% the player he was. I figured he would be an average starter this year or a good backup.

He had a great career though. I loved the pick when it first happened and he exceeded my expectations. He was such an animal for years. If this is true then Thank You Chris for leaving everything on the field for us! Us fans really appreciate it and you will be missed!
it was said in a couple articles this offseason  
WeatherMan : 7/20/2014 4:38 pm : link
that Jerry was signed to start. In light of that, this is not a surprise. Thanks to Snee for a great career and 2 rings, all the best to him.
That sucks  
ZogZerg : 7/20/2014 4:38 pm : link
I was hoping he could go one more year.
If so  
DavidinBMNY : 7/20/2014 4:42 pm : link
Thank you Chris! 2 SB wins. And retiring now is the best chance for others to get reps. This makes a lot of sense, I have felt this was the most likely outcome all along
He's been a great Giant........  
Dry Lightning : 7/20/2014 4:46 pm : link
but this is the right thing to do for himself and the team. I don't want to go into the season knowing he could break down at any moment. I bet it is true.
Thanks, Vin  
mrvax : 7/20/2014 4:50 pm : link
You might be an asshat by this time tomorrow.
:>)

Thanks to Chris Snee for a great career here with the Giants.
if true  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/20/2014 4:51 pm : link
this is probably for the best in the long term...both for Snee personally and the Giants.

Man the offense has been almost completely gutted.
It'll call for an epic appreciation thread.  
bceagle05 : 7/20/2014 4:54 pm : link
What a great player.
You still have to pay retired players. It doesn't mean anything for  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/20/2014 4:54 pm : link
the cap.
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rdt288 : 7/20/2014 4:54 pm : link
I guess its time. Do you think (provided this is true) that snee gets pissed off that this got out or not even?
Was his whole contract  
Jolly Blue Giant : 7/20/2014 4:59 pm : link
Guarenteed?
It's sad and good at the same time  
Big Rick in FL : 7/20/2014 5:08 pm : link
As we saw with Diehl. Coughlin was very loyal to him and it really hurt our team. The same could have definitely happened with Snee. John Jerry right now is way better then Snee. He is the guy who I wanted to start as soon as we signed him. Jerry just has to be motivated and the guy could be very very good. I think Coughlin can be the coach to help him with that. If you read anything about the Fins over the last 5 years everybody says it was an extremely laid back atmosphere. That isn't good for a guy with motivational issues.

Ideally Weston Richburg practices well and plays good in the preseason and he ends up starting at G. Also Schwartz said he is better at RG then LG. If Snee is gone we can maybe move Schwartz to RG and Richburg plays at LG.
I hope this is true  
Jay on the Island : 7/20/2014 5:09 pm : link
He has my respect but now it's time for Mosley to be given a chance.
Good Luck, Chris.  
Blackbeard : 7/20/2014 5:19 pm : link
You were a great Giant and will be missed.

Now, perhaps, T. C will be out from under the cloud of nepotism accusations from the moronic wing of BBI.
if true  
Mr. Nickels : 7/20/2014 5:24 pm : link
he had a great career with a limping finish. At one time he was the best in the league.

We have to seriously root for Richburg or Walton to grab that spot. The future is now. Big NO to John Jerry.

If Mosely has developed I think he could be a decent option. I hope Richburg is so good that he earns a spot though being a 2nd rd pick (much like Snee was)
good thing for Chris that 1 million of his salary is guaranteed  
oipolloi : 7/20/2014 5:24 pm : link
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and i gotta ask  
Mr. Nickels : 7/20/2014 5:25 pm : link
how much would we save by his retirement if anything?
RE: You still have to pay retired players. It doesn't mean anything for  
Josh in the City : 7/20/2014 5:26 pm : link
In comment 11773651 Ten Ton Hammer said:
Quote:
the cap.


I didn't know this and if true, doesn't make any sense at all to me. Why would the team be required to pay for services that the player chooses to no longer perform? Can someone explain?
Thank you! # 76 Chris Snee for your time as a New York Giant,  
NYGBlue42 : 7/20/2014 5:26 pm : link
When a player cant be that player he was anymore, its time to hang up his cleats.I think #66 David Diehl came to grips that it was his time to retire, now its Chris Snees time. p.s. we need a new strength coach anyway.
No way they would have to pay him  
Jolly Blue Giant : 7/20/2014 5:31 pm : link
That would be theft. Sign a contact a retire. No way.
That being said  
Jolly Blue Giant : 7/20/2014 5:32 pm : link
He will probably still count 5.6 million against the cap either way.
Would really be a shame...  
Simms11 : 7/20/2014 5:43 pm : link
he was a great Giant for many years and now the entire Oline from the last Super Bowl will be entirely new!

The Oline would lose some great leadership, as well. I guess the Oline leadership torch will pass to Schwartz or Walton now.
Before we dig the grave..  
Tark10 : 7/20/2014 5:43 pm : link
Lets see if this news is accurate. Lets not say goodbye until and IF he announces his retirement.
Vin_Cuccs  
bc4life : 7/20/2014 5:48 pm : link
Thanks for passing this on. Regardless of whether it pans out. I'd bet you're right and I agree with Eric, probably what's best for all concerned.

P.S.

If the info is not accurate.

Wannbe asshat - You suck - signed BBI
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Anakim : 7/20/2014 5:51 pm : link
Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 5s
Saw @BigBlueInteract rumor Giants G Chris Snee to retire. Not yet. He meets w/ team brass tomorrow to discuss whether his body can make it.
Not sure how it is good news in any way  
Jolly Blue Giant : 7/20/2014 5:54 pm : link
As far as the team is concerned. All it means is that he cannot add any more value than the 53rd man to make this team. He is counting against the cap either way. No savings on cap. I'd rather he made the team as a reserve coming off the bench.
Cap savings would probably be around $1MM.  
Big Blue Blogger : 7/20/2014 5:54 pm : link
Instead of a $6.6MM cap number for playing, he would probably have a dead-money figure around $5.5-5.6MM. Hard to be sure about the exact amounts without knowing the details of his 2014 guarantee.

If the competition is simply to replace Snee at RG, Jerry's size and experience would seem to give him a big edge. The twist is that RG is also Schwartz's natural position. Moving him there would shift the competition to LG, where Mosley or Richburg would seem to have a much better shot. As far as I know, Jerry never played left guard in Miami, where Richie Incognito was a fixture at LG until the hazing scandal cost him his job. (After Incognito was suspended, Nate Garner and Sam Brenner filled in, with Jerry remaining at RG.)
Can't overreact to this  
Sy'56 : 7/20/2014 5:57 pm : link
Other than it being a big deal if you are thinking about the fan-based sentimental side of it.

Snee was/is no longer an elite guard and I'm not sure I would say he would even be in the top 50% in the league anymore. NYG won't miss much if he does indeed retire.

The biggest blow is that it takes a bite out of the depth chart...a part of the depth chart that is among the weakest on the roster.

John Jerry appears to be the starter at RG, which you have to be OK with but no completely sold on. Talent wise he has the goods. He can move/bend well and there is more than enough size/power to his game. Can he make faster decisions and will he adjust to whats thrown at him from the defense better than what he did in Miami? Those are the questions. I'd rather it be that than the other way around. Behind him is where I get concerned.

Brandon Mosley is the guy I want to trust the most with snaps. He has power to his game and the struggles he has shown have been more injury and experience-based more than anything. I think he has the physical ability to play the position at a high enough level, but still not top half of the league type quality.

Eric Herman was one of my favorite 2013 draft selections and after his practice squad year, I'll be curious to see if he is ready to play against NFl speed. He has the power and mentality.

I have not given up on James Brewer but I have never liked his game and I don't see much changing between last year and this season. Simply put he gets pushed around when he can't anticipate the action. He will rarely push guys back and he doesn't stick to his pass blocking assignments. I would actually be more confident in JD Walton or Weston Richburg playing his spot (whichever doesn't play C).

There isn't much available on the market now but that can change pretty fast. There are a lot of new bodies on this OL and the overall cohesion/chemistry won't be high no matter what....thus bringing in a new body once the cuts begin wouldn't be a big deal at all. There are a couple young guys around the league that I really liked int he draft grading process that could become available....I'll keep an eye out.
BBB  
Jolly Blue Giant : 7/20/2014 5:57 pm : link
If that's the case (cap savings) then I take back my post above yours.
There will always be a job for him  
spike : 7/20/2014 6:15 pm : link
in the organization post retirement.
HE should've gotten  
spike : 7/20/2014 6:16 pm : link
the BBI trophy this year
That's sad  
Phil in LA : 7/20/2014 6:25 pm : link
if true. He was a truly great Giant.
Injuries really took their toll on him  
steve in ky : 7/20/2014 6:31 pm : link
He went from great to not so quickly as a result.
Yup, inevitable at some point soon, whether it's now or not  
mfsd : 7/20/2014 6:43 pm : link
football is a tough sport, hope he can walk away in good enough health to enjoy life after football

For all the well-discussed draft misses, we absolutely nailed the Snee pick...a bedrock of 2 epic Super Bowl champions
Sy: Longer term, Eric Herman might be the best-case scenario.  
Big Blue Blogger : 7/20/2014 6:44 pm : link
Herman spent his redshirt season on the practice squad, unlike Mosley(IR) or Brewer (inactive). So he didn't earn a credited year of service. That means the Giants control his rights through 2017.

Although Herman faces a tough climb up the depth chart, he does have the advantage of being a born-and-bred OG. I think all the other candidates to replace Chris Snee were tackles or centers in college. That might mean his experience deficit is smaller than one might expect for a MAC lineman who hasn't taken an NFL snap. Not saying he has a realistic chance to start in 2014 - just that it would be great for the team if he can push short-timers like Jerry and Brewer.
It's time.  
arcarsenal : 7/20/2014 6:46 pm : link
Hoping he makes the right call here and hangs them up. I really don't think it's worth it for him to attempt to continue playing.
Didn't Chris Snee...  
M.S. : 7/20/2014 6:59 pm : link

...retire a few years back?
Sy'56...  
M.S. : 7/20/2014 7:04 pm : link

...James Brewer is a Jerry Reese OL draft bust special.

But come to think of it, Brewer isn't really a "draft bust special" since Jerry Reese has made a habit of drafting busts along the offensive line.

And so we enter another season as the THIN BLUE LINE.

Not good.

Nice job Vin if true....  
Jimmy Googs : 7/20/2014 7:14 pm : link
if not tomorrow then it'll be in a few weeks anyway. No way he was going to make it this season after struggling thru OTAs.

Great Giant and his shoes are tough to fill...
Eric Herman has been an  
mrvax : 7/20/2014 7:16 pm : link
intriguing prospect. He was Mr. Pancake in college; set his college record for most pancakes. I really hope this young guy improves to the point where he can start.

Also: I believe when a player retires, salary wise, it's like being released. Snee had a cap hit of $6,643,750 and dead money (if cut) of $5,550,000 according to Spotrac.com
That should result in the Giants having about $1,093,750 in cap savings as BBB said.
RE: Can't overreact to this  
AcidTest : 7/20/2014 7:36 pm : link
In comment 11773706 Sy'56 said:
Quote:
Other than it being a big deal if you are thinking about the fan-based sentimental side of it.

Snee was/is no longer an elite guard and I'm not sure I would say he would even be in the top 50% in the league anymore. NYG won't miss much if he does indeed retire.

The biggest blow is that it takes a bite out of the depth chart...a part of the depth chart that is among the weakest on the roster.

John Jerry appears to be the starter at RG, which you have to be OK with but no completely sold on. Talent wise he has the goods. He can move/bend well and there is more than enough size/power to his game. Can he make faster decisions and will he adjust to whats thrown at him from the defense better than what he did in Miami? Those are the questions. I'd rather it be that than the other way around. Behind him is where I get concerned.

Brandon Mosley is the guy I want to trust the most with snaps. He has power to his game and the struggles he has shown have been more injury and experience-based more than anything. I think he has the physical ability to play the position at a high enough level, but still not top half of the league type quality.

Eric Herman was one of my favorite 2013 draft selections and after his practice squad year, I'll be curious to see if he is ready to play against NFl speed. He has the power and mentality.

I have not given up on James Brewer but I have never liked his game and I don't see much changing between last year and this season. Simply put he gets pushed around when he can't anticipate the action. He will rarely push guys back and he doesn't stick to his pass blocking assignments. I would actually be more confident in JD Walton or Weston Richburg playing his spot (whichever doesn't play C).

There isn't much available on the market now but that can change pretty fast. There are a lot of new bodies on this OL and the overall cohesion/chemistry won't be high no matter what....thus bringing in a new body once the cuts begin wouldn't be a big deal at all. There are a couple young guys around the league that I really liked int he draft grading process that could become available....I'll keep an eye out.


Good analysis. Think Jerry will be given the first chance to start, with Mosley as a backup. Don't think Mosley is ready to start, at least not in game one.

Herman had offseason hip surgery IIRC. Not sure how that affects his future, but Snee retiring increases his chance of making the 53.

Brewer can only make it as a tackle now given our upgrades (Jerry, Schwartz, Richburg) at guard. I don't think he will, but that's his only chance IMO.

Best of luck Chris. You were a fantastic Giant.
sort of off topic  
Steve in Greenwich : 7/20/2014 7:43 pm : link
but its nice to see the clout this site has when someone posts possible inside info they hear that sounds plausible it leads to each Giant beat writer tracking down the info and publishing articles on a Sunday afternoon that otherwise may have gone unnoted until an announcement tomorrow.

Back onto the topic, I do wonder as one of the beat writers noted (I believe it was Jordan Raanan, could have been another) earlier this week that the contract Snee signed was extremely out of the ordinary; I wonder if they're any special provisions that kick into place for this exact scenario (whether its to the Giants benefit or Snee's).
I predicted this one :/  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/20/2014 8:10 pm : link
.
As I said two days ago (and two months ago, too, if anyone remembers)  
Milton : 7/20/2014 8:36 pm : link
"As for Snee, I'm gonna predict that he fails his physical, collects his $1M injury protection benefit, and announces his retirement."

Quote:
The Injury Protection Benefit is a benefit available to a player if he meets the following criteria: (1) Suffers an injury in an NFL game or practice which causes him to be unable to play in all or part of the last game of the season of injury, or, which results in club-authorized offseason surgery; (2) Undergoes reasonable and customary club-required rehabilitation in the offseason following the injury; and (3) Fails the clubs preseason physical for the season following the injury and his contract is terminated.

p.s.-- All those people who made fun of me two months ago, oh well.....
bbi  
SamdaGiantsFan : 7/20/2014 8:37 pm : link
gettin' some cred on rotoworld, gotta love it.
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