Don't shoot the messenger.
I know this has been discussed quite a bit here in the last week or so in light of the article from Jordan Raanan but I just heard from a source that Snee will in fact announce his retirement before training camp begins.
A very close friend of mine is an attorney in New York/New Jersey and an attorney his department is an agent for a few NFL players.
Every now and then he will toss me a few pieces of info and he has been correct in the past.
I am not guaranteeing accuracy, but his text was
"Chris Snee will retire tomorrow. You heard it here first."
Again, don't shoot the messenger, just passing along information.
So who starts? Jerry?
He had a great career though. I loved the pick when it first happened and he exceeded my expectations. He was such an animal for years. If this is true then Thank You Chris for leaving everything on the field for us! Us fans really appreciate it and you will be missed!
:>)
Thanks to Chris Snee for a great career here with the Giants.
Man the offense has been almost completely gutted.
Ideally Weston Richburg practices well and plays good in the preseason and he ends up starting at G. Also Schwartz said he is better at RG then LG. If Snee is gone we can maybe move Schwartz to RG and Richburg plays at LG.
Now, perhaps, T. C will be out from under the cloud of nepotism accusations from the moronic wing of BBI.
We have to seriously root for Richburg or Walton to grab that spot. The future is now. Big NO to John Jerry.
If Mosely has developed I think he could be a decent option. I hope Richburg is so good that he earns a spot though being a 2nd rd pick (much like Snee was)
I didn't know this and if true, doesn't make any sense at all to me. Why would the team be required to pay for services that the player chooses to no longer perform? Can someone explain?
The Oline would lose some great leadership, as well. I guess the Oline leadership torch will pass to Schwartz or Walton now.
P.S.
If the info is not accurate.
Wannbe asshat - You suck - signed BBI
Saw @BigBlueInteract rumor Giants G Chris Snee to retire. Not yet. He meets w/ team brass tomorrow to discuss whether his body can make it.
If the competition is simply to replace Snee at RG, Jerry's size and experience would seem to give him a big edge. The twist is that RG is also Schwartz's natural position. Moving him there would shift the competition to LG, where Mosley or Richburg would seem to have a much better shot. As far as I know, Jerry never played left guard in Miami, where Richie Incognito was a fixture at LG until the hazing scandal cost him his job. (After Incognito was suspended, Nate Garner and Sam Brenner filled in, with Jerry remaining at RG.)
Snee was/is no longer an elite guard and I'm not sure I would say he would even be in the top 50% in the league anymore. NYG won't miss much if he does indeed retire.
The biggest blow is that it takes a bite out of the depth chart...a part of the depth chart that is among the weakest on the roster.
John Jerry appears to be the starter at RG, which you have to be OK with but no completely sold on. Talent wise he has the goods. He can move/bend well and there is more than enough size/power to his game. Can he make faster decisions and will he adjust to whats thrown at him from the defense better than what he did in Miami? Those are the questions. I'd rather it be that than the other way around. Behind him is where I get concerned.
Brandon Mosley is the guy I want to trust the most with snaps. He has power to his game and the struggles he has shown have been more injury and experience-based more than anything. I think he has the physical ability to play the position at a high enough level, but still not top half of the league type quality.
Eric Herman was one of my favorite 2013 draft selections and after his practice squad year, I'll be curious to see if he is ready to play against NFl speed. He has the power and mentality.
I have not given up on James Brewer but I have never liked his game and I don't see much changing between last year and this season. Simply put he gets pushed around when he can't anticipate the action. He will rarely push guys back and he doesn't stick to his pass blocking assignments. I would actually be more confident in JD Walton or Weston Richburg playing his spot (whichever doesn't play C).
There isn't much available on the market now but that can change pretty fast. There are a lot of new bodies on this OL and the overall cohesion/chemistry won't be high no matter what....thus bringing in a new body once the cuts begin wouldn't be a big deal at all. There are a couple young guys around the league that I really liked int he draft grading process that could become available....I'll keep an eye out.
For all the well-discussed draft misses, we absolutely nailed the Snee pick...a bedrock of 2 epic Super Bowl champions
Although Herman faces a tough climb up the depth chart, he does have the advantage of being a born-and-bred OG. I think all the other candidates to replace Chris Snee were tackles or centers in college. That might mean his experience deficit is smaller than one might expect for a MAC lineman who hasn't taken an NFL snap. Not saying he has a realistic chance to start in 2014 - just that it would be great for the team if he can push short-timers like Jerry and Brewer.
...retire a few years back?
...James Brewer is a Jerry Reese OL draft bust special.
But come to think of it, Brewer isn't really a "draft bust special" since Jerry Reese has made a habit of drafting busts along the offensive line.
And so we enter another season as the THIN BLUE LINE.
Not good.
Great Giant and his shoes are tough to fill...
Also: I believe when a player retires, salary wise, it's like being released. Snee had a cap hit of $6,643,750 and dead money (if cut) of $5,550,000 according to Spotrac.com
That should result in the Giants having about $1,093,750 in cap savings as BBB said.
Snee was/is no longer an elite guard and I'm not sure I would say he would even be in the top 50% in the league anymore. NYG won't miss much if he does indeed retire.
The biggest blow is that it takes a bite out of the depth chart...a part of the depth chart that is among the weakest on the roster.
John Jerry appears to be the starter at RG, which you have to be OK with but no completely sold on. Talent wise he has the goods. He can move/bend well and there is more than enough size/power to his game. Can he make faster decisions and will he adjust to whats thrown at him from the defense better than what he did in Miami? Those are the questions. I'd rather it be that than the other way around. Behind him is where I get concerned.
Brandon Mosley is the guy I want to trust the most with snaps. He has power to his game and the struggles he has shown have been more injury and experience-based more than anything. I think he has the physical ability to play the position at a high enough level, but still not top half of the league type quality.
Eric Herman was one of my favorite 2013 draft selections and after his practice squad year, I'll be curious to see if he is ready to play against NFl speed. He has the power and mentality.
I have not given up on James Brewer but I have never liked his game and I don't see much changing between last year and this season. Simply put he gets pushed around when he can't anticipate the action. He will rarely push guys back and he doesn't stick to his pass blocking assignments. I would actually be more confident in JD Walton or Weston Richburg playing his spot (whichever doesn't play C).
There isn't much available on the market now but that can change pretty fast. There are a lot of new bodies on this OL and the overall cohesion/chemistry won't be high no matter what....thus bringing in a new body once the cuts begin wouldn't be a big deal at all. There are a couple young guys around the league that I really liked int he draft grading process that could become available....I'll keep an eye out.
Good analysis. Think Jerry will be given the first chance to start, with Mosley as a backup. Don't think Mosley is ready to start, at least not in game one.
Herman had offseason hip surgery IIRC. Not sure how that affects his future, but Snee retiring increases his chance of making the 53.
Brewer can only make it as a tackle now given our upgrades (Jerry, Schwartz, Richburg) at guard. I don't think he will, but that's his only chance IMO.
Best of luck Chris. You were a fantastic Giant.
Back onto the topic, I do wonder as one of the beat writers noted (I believe it was Jordan Raanan, could have been another) earlier this week that the contract Snee signed was extremely out of the ordinary; I wonder if they're any special provisions that kick into place for this exact scenario (whether its to the Giants benefit or Snee's).
p.s.-- All those people who made fun of me two months ago, oh well.....
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