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NFT: Mets @ Padres rubber match (in progress)

Deej : 7/20/2014 5:59 pm
1-0 Padres, thru 7 1/3. 27 year old Cuban rookie Despaigne is no hitting us. Heart of the order up right now.

Disgusting
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Just unreal  
steve in ky : 7/20/2014 7:21 pm : link
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And that's our Mets...  
PhiPsi125 : 7/20/2014 7:24 pm : link
This is why I can't ever get excited with this team. Have a nice 10 game stretch and then lose a series to one of the worst teams in baseball.
Just absolutely could not lose a series to a pitiful Padres team..  
arcarsenal : 7/20/2014 7:24 pm : link
Coming off a really encouraging end to the first half, winning the first game and looking really good.. to drop the next 2 and lose this series is just not acceptable. You can't have that happen if you're really going to turn a corner here.
that's the way bad teams lose  
oipolloi : 7/20/2014 7:26 pm : link
in terms of talent, the Mets are probably a .500 team or maybe slightly better. But on this team, the total is less than the sum of the parts.
Good teams  
Deej : 7/20/2014 7:34 pm : link
dont drop a series to a dismantling Padres team. Period.
Fucking pathetic  
95cobraguy : 7/20/2014 7:36 pm : link
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Well, I don't think anyone's confusing the Mets for a good team.  
arcarsenal : 7/20/2014 7:36 pm : link
Unfortunately.
It takes incredible creativity  
Phil in Joisey : 7/20/2014 9:11 pm : link
to lose a game on two simple ground balls to the pitcher. Only the Mets could accomplish such a pitiful feat. I'm afraid the journey back to .500 is headed in the other direction.
Fun to watch Mets fans leap off the bandwagon after a game or two  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 7/20/2014 9:40 pm : link
The Mets are a better team now than they were at the beginning of the season, but it's not like they're actually a good team. Not yet. There are still pieces missing.

And come on, even good teams drop a deuce in the punchbowl now and again.
Jumping off the bandwagon?  
arcarsenal : 7/20/2014 9:49 pm : link
The fact that most of us are still watching every game after these last handful of years pretty much nixes the idea of being anything remotely resembling bandwagon fans at all.

It was just a frustrating loss. They were playing really encouraging ball before the break and looked like they were going to keep it going after Friday night. Dropping 1 would have been fine. But you can't lose games like this and lose series' to shitty teams if you want to really turn this around. It's just unacceptable. I'm tired of saying "well, it happens.. oh well! Next time"

Wheeler was really good today and he looks like he's settling in nicely and really becoming that pitcher we thought we got to begin with. These types of losses have just been so fucking Metsian over the years and it's very frustrating.
LOL  
pjcas18 : 7/20/2014 9:52 pm : link
Bandwagon Mets fans.
RE: Jumping off the bandwagon?  
CGiants07 : 7/20/2014 9:52 pm : link
In comment 11773933 arcarsenal said:
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The fact that most of us are still watching every game after these last handful of years pretty much nixes the idea of being anything remotely resembling bandwagon fans at all.

It was just a frustrating loss. They were playing really encouraging ball before the break and looked like they were going to keep it going after Friday night. Dropping 1 would have been fine. But you can't lose games like this and lose series' to shitty teams if you want to really turn this around. It's just unacceptable. I'm tired of saying "well, it happens.. oh well! Next time"

Wheeler was really good today and he looks like he's settling in nicely and really becoming that pitcher we thought we got to begin with. These types of losses have just been so fucking Metsian over the years and it's very frustrating.


if we win 2 of 3 or better vs seattle it is fine
CG...  
arcarsenal : 7/20/2014 9:54 pm : link
Sure but the Mariners are a better team than the Pads so it's far from a given. We'll see what happens.
RE: CG...  
CGiants07 : 7/20/2014 10:03 pm : link
In comment 11773941 arcarsenal said:
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Sure but the Mariners are a better team than the Pads so it's far from a given. We'll see what happens.


for some reason we play better vs the better teams and seattle not pitching king felix gives us a chance
Would love to see Flores get called up for AL park games  
Deej : 7/20/2014 10:11 pm : link
21 game hitting streak in AAA. Is it really so necessary that we start two of our offensively inept LFs when playing in AL parks?
Gary, did you watch the game today?  
steve in ky : 7/20/2014 10:17 pm : link
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Zach Wheeler from ESPN  
spike : 7/21/2014 12:01 am : link
"v Despite taking the no decision, Wheelers has allowed one run in each of his last four starts. After a weak June that saw his ERA rise to 4.25, Wheeler's three starts in July have lowered it to 3.78 on the season. Wheeler is also keeping up his strikeout rate, retiring 17 batters on strikes in the last three games. He ranks 26th in the league with 112 strikeouts."

ZW has allowed just 1 run in each of his last four starts.
lonk - ( New Window )
Wheeler  
steve in ky : 7/21/2014 12:10 am : link
Has really settled in nicely.
Last 2 games  
Headhunter : 7/21/2014 7:47 am : link
not so much fun. It's baseball, sometimes the other guy that is 60'6" 's with the ball in his hand is in control. It happens. On to the next one
Not looking forward to watching this lineup try to hit Iwakuma.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/21/2014 8:50 am : link
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Mets fan and bandwagon  
feelflows : 7/21/2014 9:44 am : link
never thought I'dd see those words typed together this decade lol
I think he meant the up and down reactions of the fans  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/21/2014 9:46 am : link
not 'bandwagon'.

Last week ZGiants was leading the parade down the canyon of heroes.
well  
feelflows : 7/21/2014 9:48 am : link
I think there are extremes going both ways with some of the Mets posters on BBI.

prospects by some are vastly over-hyped. also, when young guys do poorly one start they are duds.

best thing to do with a young team is take the ups and downs in stride. I DO think some on here do that.
Yeah, not so much the bandwagon  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 7/21/2014 10:21 am : link
As some of the fans who have gotten a bit high from a little win streak.

It was mostly a joke, though. Well, half a joke.
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arcarsenal : 7/21/2014 10:26 am : link
I don't know. I think people just wanted to see this team take a series from a shitty team to start the 2nd half. Didn't think it was so much to ask.

Oh well. On we go.
Mike  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2014 10:28 am : link
Puma reporting 0 interest in Bartolo Colon as of yesterday. If he's moved I suspect it's post deadline to a desperate playoff contender. Padres should get a sweet bounty for Benoit, just like they did for Street.
gary  
feelflows : 7/21/2014 10:50 am : link
half joke or not, I still chuckled.

there are some posters who get a little carried away, but that's fandom! enthusiasm isn't a bad thing, I guess.

I've just been a fan of this team too long to get overly excited.
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arcarsenal : 7/21/2014 10:56 am : link
I think we have one guy who gets really carried away. That's about it. The majority of the Met fans here are generally pessimistic and of the "prove it" variety.
arc  
feelflows : 7/21/2014 11:33 am : link
I know.. I just didn't want to single anyone out lol
padres seem to be  
sshin05 : 7/21/2014 1:00 pm : link
always in rebuilding mode. Last time they were in the post season was in '06 and actually won 90 games in 2010 but missed the playoffs. They should just sell everybody and restart the whole damn thing.
Padres  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2014 1:09 pm : link
have been ridiculously "unlucky" Headley being a 1 year wonder obviously hurt them and the Latos deal (on paper could have really changed the franchise) has been a total bust. Alonso sucks and Grandal sucks. Gyorko was seen as a potential breakout player coming off his strong rookie season and has been utterly awful, Venable last year very good, this year awful and Cashner very good but hurt. Cashner for Rizzo looks bad right about now (I like Cashner but still).
Typical Mets  
speedywheels : 7/21/2014 2:16 pm : link
Pique our interest by playing really good ball before the break, then lay an egg the series right after.

Sigh...
Of happy about this Colon leak  
Shecky : 7/21/2014 2:47 pm : link
That was done 100% intentionally because they don't plan on moving him. Obviously if someone offers them something they can't refuse that's another story. But find me one Mets fan who doesn't think its a no brainer to move him? Yet the front office is so worried about the message trading him would send to those exact same fans.

I know they are looking for a "swing for the fences×´ move - but I hate their paralysis when it comes down to the "message to the fan" moves.
RE: Mike  
Nick from Goa : 7/21/2014 2:49 pm : link
In comment 11774399 DanMetroMan said:
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Puma reporting 0 interest in Bartolo Colon as of yesterday. If he's moved I suspect it's post deadline to a desperate playoff contender. Padres should get a sweet bounty for Benoit, just like they did for Street.


they talked to 1 team about him. don't know the team though
It's easy to say trade Colon  
Deej : 7/21/2014 2:59 pm : link
He doesnt look good over his last 4 starts. What exactly is his role on a playoff team? Would he be a #3 starter, or a little used #4? And then you'd have to pay him for 2015. I guess a team that has good front end SPs but is really lacking for quality starts out of the backend could use him.


I think if the Mets trade Colon right now, they're picking up some of his salary and getting a Grade C prospect or two. Maybe if they hold him thru August he'll be pitching better, but then he is giving fewer regular season starts. Make no mistake though -- he's not this season's Marlon Byrd. We're not getting a return close to Byrd for Colon.
A contender won't see the value of a Colon?  
Shecky : 7/21/2014 3:10 pm : link
A very veteran pitcher. Who in the past three years is top 30 in FiP in all if baseball. And 45th this year. Not a David Price obviously, which is why he doesn't cost what Price will cost. His contract is fair, not an albatross.
Shecky  
Deej : 7/21/2014 4:44 pm : link
Colon obviously has some value, but it's pretty telling that after a 5 WAR season all he could get was 20/2. I dont think any GM is excited about telling him owner that they're trading for 15 million dollars left on a 41 year old pitcher. I dont think any GM is salivating over rolling out Colon out in game 3 of a playoff round. There's a reason the market on Colon seems cool. The market for him may be better in August or the offseason. I have no problem holding him until December.
Here  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2014 4:45 pm : link
is the quote According to a source, as of Sunday the Mets had not yet received even a nibble on the 41-year-old right-hander, who is expendable because of the club’s starting-pitching depth.
Mike Puma  
Headhunter : 7/21/2014 5:00 pm : link
Is not someone I give much credence to
Royals  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2014 5:04 pm : link
interested in Rios, A's interested in Franklin.
I personally don't care if we trade Colon or not.  
ZGiants98 : 7/21/2014 8:09 pm : link
Assuming he has a pretty good year, which he is, he'll have value in the offseason. What's the rush?
Hold onto Colon  
spike : 7/21/2014 8:20 pm : link
a team might get desperate
I mean I get that everyone  
ZGiants98 : 7/21/2014 8:25 pm : link
always starts panting around the trading deadline and wants a move just to make a move but what does trading Colon right now really do for us? Isn't the point of trading him to clear his 11 million next year and re-open a spot for Harvey? Well all that can still happen later. Syndergaard and Montero seem like they still need seasoning. Harvey likely isn't pitching this year. What's the hurry? If a team gets desperate sure but Im not really worried about it right now.
I remember how pissed everyone  
ZGiants98 : 7/21/2014 8:26 pm : link
was last year when we didn't trade Byrd at the deadline. How did that turn out?
I remember when  
Shecky : 7/21/2014 8:39 pm : link
Everyone was pissed we didn't trade Hairston...
SF Giants  
Nick from Goa : 7/22/2014 3:38 pm : link
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Here's the Giants "interest"  
Shecky : 7/22/2014 4:20 pm : link
As alluded to above
Giants may have interest in Colon - ( New Window )
Rice elbow surgery  
Shecky : 7/22/2014 4:22 pm : link
Also being reported
Good  
feelflows : 7/22/2014 4:30 pm : link
He can replace snee.
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Exit 172 : 7/22/2014 4:31 pm : link
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