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NFT: WWE: Battleground

LawrenceTaylor56 : 7/20/2014 7:07 pm
Last PPV before Summerslam.

I wonder if Brock is gonna show up to set up his feud with Cena.
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RE: Mr. Nickels  
Mr. Nickels : 7/20/2014 11:00 pm : link
In comment 11774006 Big Rick in FL said:
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It is just fucking terrible. Everybody knows Cena is going to win. Every other guy is laying around hurt outside of the ring and Cena is jumping around the ring like he didn't even take part in the match. Just terrible. He is boring as shit in ring and even worse on the mic. No clue how they think he is worthy of winning nearly as many titles as Flair.


Cena is built more like a long reigning champ like a Hogan or Backlund or Sammartino since he is booked like their golden boy BUT the ENTIRE point of Ric Flair and later Triple H winning the title so many times added to their VILLAINOUS nature. I.e. Cheap heat to say I am the best because I am (X) time champion.

They Just. Don't. Get. It.
.  
Anakim : 7/20/2014 11:17 pm : link
Steve Austin ‏@steveaustinBSR 3m
@JohnCena needs to tighten up the STF from what I'm seeing on my twitter feed. C'mon, John...Tighten the sumbitch up...

And this isn't the first time Austin has given him that advice. Cena literally used 4 moves that entire match. It's incredible. He's so inept in the ring that it's scary. And then you have Michael Cole literally giving oral to Cena every chance he gets. It's sickening, but it's truly amazing that someone so boring, unentertaining and inept is on the verge of breaking Flair's streak. What a country we live in.



Let The Miz win the Battle Royal, have Cena win again and nix Ambrose vs Rollins.

In other words, IWC, here's a giant middle finger, courtesy of the McMahons
Awful  
SoZKillA : 7/20/2014 11:35 pm : link
WWE Booking once again.

Ziggler got probably the biggest pop of the night, hell every night he gets the biggest pops. WWE needs to give him a big run.
they keep coming close to making the IC belt  
Mr. Nickels : 7/21/2014 12:29 am : link
matter but they keep screwing it up
everything  
BigBlueCane : 7/21/2014 5:28 am : link
is being built around protecting Roman Reigns as the next eventual franchise guy. That's the focal point of everything they do.

Anything that is perceived as being a threat to that or hurting that will be tossed aside or removed.
Cena seems to think the "STF" (Stepover Facelock)  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/21/2014 8:41 am : link
actually means Stepover Necklock. It's incredible how he gets that wrong every time he uses it.
RE: Awful  
jlukes : 7/21/2014 11:15 am : link
In comment 11774034 SoZKillA said:
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WWE Booking once again.

Ziggler got probably the biggest pop of the night, hell every night he gets the biggest pops. WWE needs to give him a big run.


They are afraid to give him big runs because he is so injury prone
Yeah, they gave in and tried the experiment with  
Wuphat : 7/21/2014 11:18 am : link
a smaller guy, and unfortunately, he got hurt.

Vince has always liked bigger guys, and Bryan getting hurt probably confirmed his bias.
In  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2014 11:21 am : link
fairness a neck injury has nothing to do with the size of a wrestler, even Vince has to realize this. Also they seemingly are going to give KENTA a pretty massive push and he's even smaller than Bryan, Seth Rollins isn't much bigger than Bryan either.
RE: In  
nygiants16 : 7/21/2014 11:23 am : link
In comment 11774538 DanMetroMan said:
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fairness a neck injury has nothing to do with the size of a wrestler, even Vince has to realize this. Also they seemingly are going to give KENTA a pretty massive push and he's even smaller than Bryan, Seth Rollins isn't much bigger than Bryan either.


I read they are going to tell Kenta to tone down his arscenal because he is very active and fast in the ring...

I hope they dont try to slow down Rollins to much and try to get him to wrestle and bigger wrestlers pace...
I  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2014 11:24 am : link
believe they told KENTA to tone it down in regard to his stiff working style. He hits/kicks much harder than most WWE guys are accustomed to and it 1. Makes others look bad when they don't return with similar looking offense 2. Can obviously cause injuries. He also "invented" the GTS and apparently won't be allowed to use it.
No Cena tonight, but yes Brock and MAYBE the Rock (hopefully not Dwayn  
Anakim : 7/21/2014 11:24 am : link
e)

YES! YES! YES!
They're going to dumb down Kenta a lot  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/21/2014 11:25 am : link
so many WWE workers use moves out of his playbook as signature moves.
The ROH style has to be modified for the WWE  
Kyle : 7/21/2014 11:26 am : link
due to work schedule, variety in body types, and television story telling.

Watching two guys no sell a bunch of shit for 45 minutes to dueling THIS IS AWESOME chants when there's supposed to be a clear heel and some ring psychology is boring.
KENTA  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2014 11:26 am : link
needs to learn english. I can't say I'm some authority on Japanese wrestling but lets face it, none of the major Japanese guys have ever come over and done well outside of Muta/Liger and even they weren't A1 headliners outside of Muta's program with Sting. I'd stick KENTA with Heyman to begin his WWE run.
RE: KENTA  
Anakim : 7/21/2014 11:27 am : link
In comment 11774554 DanMetroMan said:
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needs to learn english. I can't say I'm some authority on Japanese wrestling but lets face it, none of the major Japanese guys have ever come over and done well outside of Muta/Liger and even they weren't A1 headliners outside of Muta's program with Sting. I'd stick KENTA with Heyman to begin his WWE run.


Funaki translated for him last night.

Tajiri had a decent run
RE: KENTA  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/21/2014 11:28 am : link
In comment 11774554 DanMetroMan said:
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needs to learn english. I can't say I'm some authority on Japanese wrestling but lets face it, none of the major Japanese guys have ever come over and done well outside of Muta/Liger and even they weren't A1 headliners outside of Muta's program with Sting. I'd stick KENTA with Heyman to begin his WWE run.


That's a problem too.

You hire a guy based on the fact that he's electric in the ring, then ask him to change his style, and when he comes here and isn't instantly a hit with the fans, they'll bury him and not bother writing anything for him.
The problem with Heyman now  
nygiants16 : 7/21/2014 11:28 am : link
is as soon as Lesnar returns he leaves the guy he is working with out of the blue and goes back to Lesnar...

Look at Cesaro he was working with Cesaro and now Lesnar is returning and all of sudden he is no longer with Cesaro....

Thats the main problem with putting anyone with Heyman
RE: RE: KENTA  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/21/2014 11:29 am : link
In comment 11774557 Anakim said:
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In comment 11774554 DanMetroMan said:


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needs to learn english. I can't say I'm some authority on Japanese wrestling but lets face it, none of the major Japanese guys have ever come over and done well outside of Muta/Liger and even they weren't A1 headliners outside of Muta's program with Sting. I'd stick KENTA with Heyman to begin his WWE run.



Funaki translated for him last night.

Tajiri had a decent run


Tajiri was the closest thing to a success, and even then he was never as big as his talent level suggested he should have been. He's excellent in the ring.
Aversion to stables is the problem, not Heyman  
Kyle : 7/21/2014 11:30 am : link
Heyman leading a Heenan-style stable of dudes signed to him would be fine, but the WWE doesn't like stables.
Even  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2014 11:32 am : link
a few months with Heyman could help him, or even Flair. Bottom line is you have to be able to cut a promo. Heck, traditionally even the English wrestlers have had trouble making it big over here. The fans don't want to do much work.
I've  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2014 11:32 am : link
actually long been a fan of stables (unless they get too big) and I also think they should use managers more.
I really like this Sanada guy in TNA  
Anakim : 7/21/2014 11:37 am : link
He had an excellent match with A Double this past Thursday
I  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2014 11:39 am : link
find it hard to believe they will use Kevin Steen properly. I'm actually surprised they signed him (and I like him a lot). Surprised they are interested in Willie Mack as well, poor body, crazy moveset, doesn't seem like their usual signings.
They sign prospects and sour on them extremely quickly.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/21/2014 11:43 am : link
CM punk would never have happened if not for Heyman putting his job on the line to get him called up.
I'd love them to bring back the 80s heel stables  
Wuphat : 7/21/2014 11:44 am : link
Bobby Heenan, Jimmy Hart, Freddie Blassie and Mr. Fugi were all great at generating heat for otherwise mid-card performers.

I thought they were headed that way with The Shield and the Wyatts, but they didn't have the manager.

And, no, the Authority doesn't cut it.
Lesnar  
dep026 : 7/21/2014 11:56 am : link
back make me happy.

Here's hoping that after Summerslam that Cena, Orton, and Kane take a long vacation.

I do think Ziggler is getting a push. Winnign some matches, great showing last night. I think he is MITB favorite next year.
Wwe is infinitely  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 7/21/2014 1:19 pm : link
More exciting with Brock back.

I'm loving Dean Ambrose right now
RE: They sign prospects and sour on them extremely quickly.  
nygiants16 : 7/21/2014 1:29 pm : link
In comment 11774598 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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CM punk would never have happened if not for Heyman putting his job on the line to get him called up.


That was before HHH took over developmental...Vince has nothing to do with it now..its all HHH...
There  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2014 1:32 pm : link
has to be a number that entices Brock to stick around for a full program/run.
Kurt  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2014 1:32 pm : link
Angle is BEGGING to come back. Rusev vs. Angle. Get it done.
and Kevin Dunn  
BigBlueCane : 7/21/2014 2:55 pm : link
is consistently screwing with Hunter's talent called up from NXT.

He's one of the ones who insist the women get implants.
RE: Wwe is infinitely  
NYG27 : 7/21/2014 3:24 pm : link
In comment 11774812 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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I'm loving Dean Ambrose right now


Is it just me or does Dean Ambrose remind anyone else of a young Rowdy Roddy Pipper?
I  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2014 4:07 pm : link
see the Piper comp. Piper by the way either was playing it up or really is an odd dude (Legends House).
RE: RE: Awful  
BigBlueinChicago : 7/21/2014 5:13 pm : link
In comment 11774519 jlukes said:
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In comment 11774034 SoZKillA said:


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WWE Booking once again.

Ziggler got probably the biggest pop of the night, hell every night he gets the biggest pops. WWE needs to give him a big run.



They are afraid to give him big runs because he is so injury prone


This is true.

Because of the two concussions he's had in the last 12 months, the story I read a few months ago is that WWE is worried about him getting another one and thus killing any future push they try to give him.

Not sure what you do about that one. Ziggler is kind of stuck.

Ambrose  
Mr. Nickels : 7/21/2014 5:33 pm : link
is definitely like a young Piper

Kurt Angle needs to come back even in a non-wrestling role. It's true, it's damn true.
This Flo-rida performace  
dep026 : 7/21/2014 9:57 pm : link
has the crowd about as interested as a paint drying contest.
are they actually singing along with a recording of their own song?  
PhiPsi125 : 7/21/2014 10:00 pm : link
This is awful.
Don't taze me bro!  
Gene : 7/21/2014 10:09 pm : link
Stephanie led off in handcuffs. Man I was hoping those fun bags were going to fall out of that top.
I will give Stephanie McMahon credit  
TheNeumann64 : 7/21/2014 10:10 pm : link
her reaction to being arrested is exactly how I'd expect the character she plays to react if she was arrested in real life. Nice combination of whining and threatening.

On the Flo Rida thing, outside of people's entrance music being played live, are musical performances on a wrestling show EVER well received? Yet we get a few of these every year.
Stephanie's fun bags  
dep026 : 7/21/2014 10:21 pm : link
looked awful in that dress. Looked like you can drive a limo between them.
BROCCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
dep026 : 7/21/2014 11:01 pm : link
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ugh.  
TheNeumann64 : 7/21/2014 11:01 pm : link
I knew this was coming, but ugh.

At least you Cena haters will probably be rid of him for a few months on TV because I'm sure Lesnar will legitimately hurt him like he does everyone he works with.
RE: Ugh.  
dep026 : 7/21/2014 11:02 pm : link
In comment 11775619 TheNeumann64 said:
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I knew this was coming, but ugh.

At least you Cena haters will probably be rid of him for a few months on TV because I'm sure Lesnar will legitimately hurt him like he does everyone he works with.


pfft....

Brock Rules.
I know I'm in the minority on him,  
TheNeumann64 : 7/21/2014 11:05 pm : link
but I can't stand him. I'm a network subscriber so I'll obviously watch Summerslam, but in all honesty, I'd rather see Cena-Orton chapter 496 than Brock Lesnar wrestle.

But everyone else seems to like it, so I'll shut up lol.
hahahaha  
dep026 : 7/21/2014 11:05 pm : link
Heyman rules.

RE: Ugh.  
nygiants16 : 7/21/2014 11:05 pm : link
In comment 11775619 TheNeumann64 said:
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I knew this was coming, but ugh.

At least you Cena haters will probably be rid of him for a few months on TV because I'm sure Lesnar will legitimately hurt him like he does everyone he works with.


Better than the no selling bury every opponent John cena
I just love  
dep026 : 7/21/2014 11:08 pm : link
how even though Brock leaves for 3-4 months at a time..... he gets a ripping ovation whenever he comes back..

When he came back a few years ago after wrestlemania was one of the biggest pops I ever heard.
man you are nuts  
Mr. Nickels : 7/22/2014 12:33 am : link
Lesnar is as legit as it gets.

This match has the biggest match feel in years.

Lesnar actually competing for the title. He better win.

Only to then lose it the next month so on the Night of Champions Cena can parade around with Flair's record.


This feels bigger than the Mania main event which was more storyline than match appeal.

Lesnar is fresh off beating the Undertaker. 20 years ago this is how things would be booked. He wouldn't have had to do much between Mania and Summerslam. I am fine with him being a special attraction but maybe if he wears the belt he has to at least do 1 tv appearance and 1 ppv match per month. Lesnar should be able to swing that.

Congrats John Cena  
Mr. Nickels : 7/22/2014 12:35 am : link
Never Give UP!

Cena breaks his own record of 14 straight TV and PPV wins..
Cena Break Consecutive Win Streak - ( New Window )
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