@art_stapleton: David Tyree: "I'm overwhelmed with joy. I guess you could say it’s a second homecoming." #NYG
@art_stapleton: Tom Coughlin welcomes back David Tyree. TC: "He made ... maybe the greatest individual play in the history of the Super Bowl." #NYG
@art_stapleton: Coughlin indicated in addition to his player development duties, Tyree - as Way was - will be on field helping out + in team meetings" #NYG
Has it gotten that bad that if you believe in traditional Â
For the last 14 years, former fullback Charles Way helped Giants players think about the future.
Now he gets to work for all 32 teams.
The NFL announced that Way was named the head league’s player engagement department. He replaces Troy Vincent, who was promoted to executive vice president of football operations.
was slated as a 'might make a roster as a special team player'
'raw' 'unproven'type, who was an over achiever here and made the team, obviously as well as the great play that year.
marriage between a man and a woman you should be disqualified from a job?
He believes gay marriage will bring on anarchy and the fall of the US. He also said some things about homosexuals committing the "ultimate sin," though he backed away from those comments later.
He shouldn't never be employed, stuck forever jobless, but given the role of this position and what it may potentially entail in some cases, this is a pretty weird hire for this time.
Phil Simms said in a radio interview I heard that he had a gay teammate, they all knew, it wasn't a big deal. I'm sure he wasn't the first or the last. So it's not like "Well, if this ever comes up, they'll deal with it then." If they hired an outspoken anti-Semite, that'd be weird for Geoff Schwartz. If they hired an outspoken racist, that'd be weird for, well, probably everybody. So they hired an outspoken homophobe. It's probably gonna be weird.
Maybe he'll learn to be more open minded, I dunno.
it's a name. No idea if it is a good or bad hire. I mean, it's not like Tyree developed all that much as a pro, so I'm not entirely convinced he knows what to do here. He came in as a ST demon and #4/5 WR and left that way. Maybe I dont understand the job though.
Yip, because he is a solid man who takes care of his responsibilities. He has some views most of us dont agree with(myself included)but last time I checked it was okay to have different opinions.
When the opinion is that two people of the same sex Â
his first attempt at proselytizing -- homophobic or whatever, he will be out.
How long ago were his comments?
I was initially surprised but it looks like he was being groomed for this job. I was impressed when he was on Ellen Degeneris (which doesn't fit the MO).
A silver lining is that Way helped out with the RBs, so he will probably help with STs, which should please all the Quinn 'fans'.
RE: Has it gotten that bad that if you believe in traditional Â
the knock on Tyree's personal views interfering with his job as Dir. of Player Development.
IF the p/r-sensitive Giants thought it was an issue, they would not have made the move.And if DT thought his opinions would interfere with his ability to do the job, I believe his character would not have had him even apply for the job.
Also, if they wanted to give him a thank-you-for-The Catch-job, they would have created something else.
it's when he brings them to the job, it could be an issue -- not just from a PR point of view but in terms of performance. The role is a key one in player communication so the person needs to be approachable and safe.
RE: When the opinion is that two people of the same sex Â
have to do with player development. Sportswriters would do well to acknowledge that the players they cover, and many of the fans they're writing for, in many cases do not uniformly share their points of view, and in many instances their views are about as nuanced as a cardboard box. His views are not mine but this is one area on which the views of a large swath of the population are in flux and it would be nice if we could prod change instead of instantly dubbing someone an irredeemable bigot and deciding he ought never work again.
of Tyree's role is working with players with off the field issues. You can imagine that some might not be happy with the message the Giants are sending by putting a presumed homophone in such a position to be mentoring younger players.
Like other posters have said, I think the Giants likely spoke to Tyree about this, and I doubt it'll have any affect on his new role with the team. It's still a (small) PR hit though.
how foolish, shouldn't prevent him from making a living.
It's an absolute fair question as to whether his beliefs make him a good candidate for this specific position that he's been hired for though.
What happens if there's a gay player that's having off the field issues that would normally fall under Tyree's watch, require his [attempted] counsel? Is that player going to feel comfortable trusting a man who openly thinks his identity could cause the entire country to fall into irreparable disarray?
Tyree's (and Charles Way's) views are not their own Â
they are God's view. It is what is written in the Bible. Tyree has decided to make a commitment to following God's not man's ideas of what is wrong or right.
Giants also seem to think he is a good role model for players hence the position he has been given.
Charles did an amazing job helping players find meaning and purpose and Tyree will likely do the same.
*prevent him from making a living doing something, somewhere. Â
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You sure about that?
@art_stapleton: Tom Coughlin welcomes back David Tyree. TC: "He made ... maybe the greatest individual play in the history of the Super Bowl." #NYG
@art_stapleton: Coughlin indicated in addition to his player development duties, Tyree - as Way was - will be on field helping out + in team meetings" #NYG
I'm a little concerned that his religious convictions will get in the way of his job.
Now he gets to work for all 32 teams.
The NFL announced that Way was named the head league’s player engagement department. He replaces Troy Vincent, who was promoted to executive vice president of football operations.
'raw' 'unproven'type, who was an over achiever here and made the team, obviously as well as the great play that year.
so - an over achiever, that is a good message.
Honestly, if he doesn't bring his religious views to his job, it should be a non-issue.
I would hope the Giants made that clear to him. I'm pretty confident they did.
He believes gay marriage will bring on anarchy and the fall of the US. He also said some things about homosexuals committing the "ultimate sin," though he backed away from those comments later.
He shouldn't never be employed, stuck forever jobless, but given the role of this position and what it may potentially entail in some cases, this is a pretty weird hire for this time.
Maybe he'll learn to be more open minded, I dunno.
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Solid man on and off the field.
You sure about that?
Yip, because he is a solid man who takes care of his responsibilities. He has some views most of us dont agree with(myself included)but last time I checked it was okay to have different opinions.
Otherwise, yes, different opinions are generally okay.
How long ago were his comments?
I was initially surprised but it looks like he was being groomed for this job. I was impressed when he was on Ellen Degeneris (which doesn't fit the MO).
A silver lining is that Way helped out with the RBs, so he will probably help with STs, which should please all the Quinn 'fans'.
Yes.
IF the p/r-sensitive Giants thought it was an issue, they would not have made the move.And if DT thought his opinions would interfere with his ability to do the job, I believe his character would not have had him even apply for the job.
Also, if they wanted to give him a thank-you-for-The Catch-job, they would have created something else.
Otherwise, yes, different opinions are generally okay.
ha, this. sad that it has to be said, TTH, but thanks for doing it.
Like other posters have said, I think the Giants likely spoke to Tyree about this, and I doubt it'll have any affect on his new role with the team. It's still a (small) PR hit though.
Sorry, at work and my phone autocorrected!
The Intolerant Left at work.
They are all for free everything unless you disagree with their agenda. Then you had better shut up or they will go after you and your job.
The Intolerant Left at work.
They are all for free everything unless you disagree with their agenda. Then you had better shut up or they will go after you and your job.
Nothing I said about prodding applies to the above. Fire away.
It's an absolute fair question as to whether his beliefs make him a good candidate for this specific position that he's been hired for though.
What happens if there's a gay player that's having off the field issues that would normally fall under Tyree's watch, require his [attempted] counsel? Is that player going to feel comfortable trusting a man who openly thinks his identity could cause the entire country to fall into irreparable disarray?
Giants also seem to think he is a good role model for players hence the position he has been given.
Charles did an amazing job helping players find meaning and purpose and Tyree will likely do the same.