Shouldn't cost too much. Has struggled with a back injury this year, but has hit well in July. Free agent after the season. Better 3B option than we've had this year, for sure. Link - ( New Window )
It's not awful, but that guy's value couldn't be much lower than it should be right now. Slightly above average glove, offense has declined significantly the past two seasons, past 30, headed into free agency.
I like RDP and he has potential but he's not a worldbeater, and even if Headley doesn't rebound offensively he's still a better defensive 3B than anything we have trotted out there of late. Send down Zelous, bring up Pirela or Refsnyder to play 2B.
and our infield defense has been excrement this season. It sounds small but if we're going to rely on a patchwork rotation that could be a major factor.
I can't stand Cashman, but got to give him his due here.
Headley is a legit MLB player at a position of scarcity that cost nothing. Solarte is a career minor leaguer and De Paula is a 23 year old (maybe) pitcher who is still in A ball. And he just turned 30.
Headley needed to get out of San Diego where he had no one in back of him and got nothing to hit- and when he did, he needed to it 10 miles to hit it out.
Yangervis was a nice story but a AAAA player, and we upgraded. It's not going to move us closer to legitimate WS contention but Headley is better than what we had there
No problem with dealing Solarte- his upside is utility guy- and the Yanks have other options.
DePaula, on the other hand, is too high a cost. His upside is considerable, even if he is still learning how to pitch.
IMO, the Yanks simply do not have enough to contend this year, and adding Headley while trading a real prospect is just a waste of resources. The only possible justification would be the 40 man crunch this coming winter- they might not be able to protect all their prospects- and assuming DePaula had to be added and they did not think they could do it, then I guess it would work.
Still, Headley is NOT guaranteed to be a plus- I believe it has been reported that he has a herniated disk in his back. Because he was acquired in his walk year, the Yanks are also prohibited from making a tender offer to him this winter- so they must sign him or lose him for nothing.
If Headley becomes a rental player, this becomes an even worse deal.
his 2010, 2011 and 2013 are still better than anything we were going to get out of that position this year. We don't need 2012 Headley for this trade to be a win.
By the way, One of the Phillies' sportswriters (Bob Brookover) suggested the price tag for Cliff Lee should be Gary Sanchez and Aaron Judge but after last night's performance, that probably won't happen.
If Cashman gave up Sanchez and Judge for Old Man Cliff, he should be run out of town on a rail. That would be the kind of asinine trade we've been talking about lately.
A package of struggling prospects in OF Mason Williams and 3B Dante Bichette Jr. could end up being a long-term steal for the Padres, when and if either (or both) start to put it together. Another possibility would be a package of 19-year-olds, including shortstop Abiatal Avelino and third baseman Miguel Andujar, both of whom have high upside but are a long ways away from the big leagues.
A package of struggling prospects in OF Mason Williams and 3B Dante Bichette Jr. could end up being a long-term steal for the Padres, when and if either (or both) start to put it together. Another possibility would be a package of 19-year-olds, including shortstop Abiatal Avelino and third baseman Miguel Andujar, both of whom have high upside but are a long ways away from the big leagues.
find that Olney report hard to believe. Lee is owed 25 million next year, 12.5 (or 25) in 2016 if he throws enough innings. That's significant money no doubt but it's still only at worst 2 seasons and he still only has a 2.87 FIP this season. He's still a 1-2 starter for 99.9% teams in baseball. If the Phillies ate money I suspect they would get significant talent as part of the deal.
Danks had better come dirt cheap, because he's garbage. I get that the Yankees are in such dire straits that acquiring garbage might actually improve the team, but still.....
A package of struggling prospects in OF Mason Williams and 3B Dante Bichette Jr. could end up being a long-term steal for the Padres, when and if either (or both) start to put it together. Another possibility would be a package of 19-year-olds, including shortstop Abiatal Avelino and third baseman Miguel Andujar, both of whom have high upside but are a long ways away from the big leagues.
Ha. I far prefer what the Yanks actually gave up.
The other day, he said the Phillies need to rebuild and that they should trade Lee to the Yankees for Severino and Judge.
I think Bowden smokes crack.
RE: Again, Lee doesn't have the Yanks on his no trade list Â
What would make him change that beyond more money? And to hell with that! No to Cliff Lee.
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The Yankees are one of the teams on Lee's no trade list.
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limited no-trade protection (may block trades to 20 clubs, including all clubs except Atlanta, Cleveland, Houston, Miami, Minnesota, NY Mets, San Diego, Tampa Bay and Washington)
Will probably add Willingham, that is what I am hearing, and with Headly and Willingham, that is plenty of help for the offense, this teams problem is pitching talent. The offense has struggled, you will get any argument from me on that topic, and I agree it is the biggest disappointment, but the 3 things that need to happen to turn this offense around is for Tex to remain healthy and hit like he has been, for Beltran to hit like we all had hoped he would hit, and for Brian McCann to hit like he can hit.
Beltran just needs to be the full time DH, and to hit like we all know he can from the DH position, full time. McCann needs to hit like we all know he can, there are a couple of people that have said they think he is washed up, but I do not think that he is washed up, and he will hit, I just hope it is this season.
You add Headly, and we just hope he stays healthy and hits something like he has shown in the past, and Willingham, and you get the three guys I mentioned to hit like they can, there is plenty of offense. I actually think that our 2 speedsters (Gardner and Ellsbury) can and will hit about 15 homers each, with what they bring on the bases and in the outfield, both of these guys are very good offensive players, I actually think we will continue to get 15 - 20 homers from both of these guys for the next few seasons, as long as they both stay healthy.
that we're not in full-sell mode, because outside of Kuroda I don't know who makes sense that teams would want. We're basically just looking for good values and hoping a hot bat or arm can help carry us to win a shit division, which is something I agree with. I do not want to make any bigtime moves like Lee but I'm pretty cool with this move for Headley.
Is a guy that did have that 1 good season, but bringing him into this clubhouse, I think the guy can give us a good glove and if he can just hit about 20 homers and give us a .750 - .800 OPS, which I believe is realistic, that would be good enough, you then add a guy like Asdrubal Cabrera in the off season, and give the kid Refsnyder a shot at second, you then have a decent infield, or potentially decent infield. The kid will need help on his defense, but he seems to be able to hit, that is for sure. I think Cabrera could come cheap, and if you can get him on a 3 - 4 years deal at 4 - 5 mil per season, then do it, if he is asking a lot, fuck him. I just do not want to throw a 7 years 140 mil contract at Ramirez, who is injury prone, or give up a 2 - 3 year deal for 15 mil per season at Reyes either, and those are the type of things that Cashman does, and it is killing this team.
I agree completely, Headly and Willingham both are cheap and you do not need to give up shit for them. I just hope the Willingham rumors are true, and they don't go give up the farm for a guy like Carlos Gonzalez and then sign him to a mega contract. They can not afford to add another horrible contract, and I won't even address Lee, he is a piece of shit, and I want no part of him.
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What would make him change that beyond more money? And to hell with that! No to Cliff Lee.
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The Yankees are one of the teams on Lee's no trade list.
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I think we are actually saying the same thing. I'm saying that currently Lee has the ability to block a trade to NYY. I think you are saying the same. I think I worded what I said incorrectly the first time. My point is that he likely won't waive that without compensation of some sort -meaning picking up his option or maybe extending it. And I want no part of that.
"As for Yankees, it appears that Lee may not be over his wife being harassed at Yankee Stadium during the 2010 American League Championship Series when he was pitching for the Texas Rangers." Link - ( New Window )
Brett Gardner LF
Derek Jeter SS
Jacoby Ellsbury CF
Carlos Beltran DH
Brian McCann 1B
Kelly Johnson RF
Brian Roberts 2B
Francisco Cervelli C
Zelous Wheeler 3B
RHP Chase Whitley
No headley yet, if he arrives on time im sure he will be put in the lineup! Get jeter out of the 2 spot please!!!!!!!
Seen Haedley play that much this year. To those that have how has his defense been this year given his back issues? If his defense is still top notch then that is a big boost for this team.
We need to address second base too and I would love to see a trade for an above average defender even if he isn't a big bat if we don't have to give up much.
We are stuck with Jeter's below average defense at short obviously and this team sorely needs to upgrade their infield defense. If Headley is healthy and we can upgrade the second base defense (enough with Roberts and his league leading number of errors), I think that would help this team out tremendously.
because they liked the specialist that was treating their son for leukemia. CHOP is one of the best children's hospitals in the country. Jaxon had a bone marrow transplant and is now cancer free I believe.
But, when he signed with Philly, I remember he made some asinine excuse about wanting to go to the team with the younger roster. Which was ridiculous because, at that time, Philly had the oldest team in baseball.
Not terrible.
Headley's wOBA is lower than Brian Roberts'.
Headley is a legit MLB player at a position of scarcity that cost nothing. Solarte is a career minor leaguer and De Paula is a 23 year old (maybe) pitcher who is still in A ball. And he just turned 30.
Headley needed to get out of San Diego where he had no one in back of him and got nothing to hit- and when he did, he needed to it 10 miles to hit it out.
Jete SS
Ells CF
Tex 1B
Mccann C
Headley 3B
Beltran DH
Ichiro RF
Roberts 2B
Not bad
As long as they didn't give up too much for him then I guess there's no harm.
No go get somebody to replace Ichiro.
DePaula, on the other hand, is too high a cost. His upside is considerable, even if he is still learning how to pitch.
IMO, the Yanks simply do not have enough to contend this year, and adding Headley while trading a real prospect is just a waste of resources. The only possible justification would be the 40 man crunch this coming winter- they might not be able to protect all their prospects- and assuming DePaula had to be added and they did not think they could do it, then I guess it would work.
Still, Headley is NOT guaranteed to be a plus- I believe it has been reported that he has a herniated disk in his back. Because he was acquired in his walk year, the Yanks are also prohibited from making a tender offer to him this winter- so they must sign him or lose him for nothing.
If Headley becomes a rental player, this becomes an even worse deal.
By the way, One of the Phillies' sportswriters (Bob Brookover) suggested the price tag for Cliff Lee should be Gary Sanchez and Aaron Judge but after last night's performance, that probably won't happen.
i wouldn't trade either one in a deal for lee.
He is expensive even without the prospects.
Ha. I far prefer what the Yanks actually gave up.
I'd rather not but I don't think it'd be a "fire Cashman" moment.
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I will miss Solarte and am saddened that we'll never get to know if DePaula can deliver on his promise with us.
Let's get Chase in the lineup tonight!
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A package of struggling prospects in OF Mason Williams and 3B Dante Bichette Jr. could end up being a long-term steal for the Padres, when and if either (or both) start to put it together. Another possibility would be a package of 19-year-olds, including shortstop Abiatal Avelino and third baseman Miguel Andujar, both of whom have high upside but are a long ways away from the big leagues.
Ha. I far prefer what the Yanks actually gave up.
The other day, he said the Phillies need to rebuild and that they should trade Lee to the Yankees for Severino and Judge.
I think Bowden smokes crack.
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The Yankees are one of the teams on Lee's no trade list.
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Shit....we're on the same side as Stan here. Something's wrong.
Beltran just needs to be the full time DH, and to hit like we all know he can from the DH position, full time. McCann needs to hit like we all know he can, there are a couple of people that have said they think he is washed up, but I do not think that he is washed up, and he will hit, I just hope it is this season.
You add Headly, and we just hope he stays healthy and hits something like he has shown in the past, and Willingham, and you get the three guys I mentioned to hit like they can, there is plenty of offense. I actually think that our 2 speedsters (Gardner and Ellsbury) can and will hit about 15 homers each, with what they bring on the bases and in the outfield, both of these guys are very good offensive players, I actually think we will continue to get 15 - 20 homers from both of these guys for the next few seasons, as long as they both stay healthy.
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What would make him change that beyond more money? And to hell with that! No to Cliff Lee.
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The Yankees are one of the teams on Lee's no trade list.
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limited no-trade protection (may block trades to 20 clubs, including all clubs except Atlanta, Cleveland, Houston, Miami, Minnesota, NY Mets, San Diego, Tampa Bay and Washington)
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I think we are actually saying the same thing. I'm saying that currently Lee has the ability to block a trade to NYY. I think you are saying the same. I think I worded what I said incorrectly the first time. My point is that he likely won't waive that without compensation of some sort -meaning picking up his option or maybe extending it. And I want no part of that.
Marlon Byrd may have been traded
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Derek Jeter SS
Jacoby Ellsbury CF
Carlos Beltran DH
Brian McCann 1B
Kelly Johnson RF
Brian Roberts 2B
Francisco Cervelli C
Zelous Wheeler 3B
RHP Chase Whitley
No headley yet, if he arrives on time im sure he will be put in the lineup! Get jeter out of the 2 spot please!!!!!!!
We need to address second base too and I would love to see a trade for an above average defender even if he isn't a big bat if we don't have to give up much.
We are stuck with Jeter's below average defense at short obviously and this team sorely needs to upgrade their infield defense. If Headley is healthy and we can upgrade the second base defense (enough with Roberts and his league leading number of errors), I think that would help this team out tremendously.
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