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NFT: 2 Ukranian fighter Jets shot down

DanMetroMan : 7/23/2014 8:08 am
IEV – Pro-Russian rebels have shot down two Ukrainian fighter jets, a spokesman for Ukraine's military operations said on Wednesday.

The spokesman said the two were downed near Savur Mogila in eastern Ukraine. No details were known about the pilots.


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Place is a mess  
UConn4523 : 7/23/2014 8:12 am : link
prayers for all the innocents suffering.

On a lighter note, pull their WC bid and give it to the US.
How do militants keep  
superspynyg : 7/23/2014 9:11 am : link
A trained army at bay with out help from a major power like Russia? They don't. I wonder how many Russian military commandos are in Eastern Ukraine?
The whole situation with the Russians...  
BamaBlue : 7/23/2014 11:09 am : link
reinforces my belief that the UN is useless at anything other than laundering money from place to place.
RE: The whole situation with the Russians...  
GIANTSr01 : 7/23/2014 11:22 am : link
In comment 11777736 BamaBlue said:
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reinforces my belief that the UN is useless at anything other than laundering money from place to place.


They're good at condemning Israel.
say what you will, but  
Dave : 7/23/2014 12:04 pm : link
you gotta give credit where credit is due, those Russians are good shots with their missles
RE: say what you will, but  
RC02XX : 7/23/2014 12:15 pm : link
In comment 11777952 Dave said:
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you gotta give credit where credit is due, those Russians are good shots with their missles


How are they good shots with their missiles if they "mistakenly" shot down a completely wrong plane? I would consider being a good shot as also being good at identifying what you're shooting at.
seems like the Ruskies  
newmike2 : 7/23/2014 12:39 pm : link
took control of the SAMs away from the drunken "separatists" and have given them lessons on proper use.
What do you want the U.N. to do  
compton : 7/23/2014 2:39 pm : link
when Russia has veto power.
...  
christian : 7/23/2014 2:48 pm : link
Calling the Ukraine military well trained is a pretty deep overstatement.
The U.N. has been around for 69 years.  
Big Blue Blogger : 7/23/2014 3:06 pm : link
World wars during that period: zero.

World wars during the previous thirty years: two.

Might be a coincidence, and there have certainly been bigger factors deterring escalation since 1945; but it's a data point.
RE: RE: say what you will, but  
jcn56 : 7/23/2014 4:27 pm : link
In comment 11777981 RC02XX said:
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In comment 11777952 Dave said:


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you gotta give credit where credit is due, those Russians are good shots with their missles



How are they good shots with their missiles if they "mistakenly" shot down a completely wrong plane? I would consider being a good shot as also being good at identifying what you're shooting at.


Good shot, bad intel.
RE: The U.N. has been around for 69 years.  
Dunedin81 : 7/23/2014 4:32 pm : link
In comment 11778487 Big Blue Blogger said:
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World wars during that period: zero.

World wars during the previous thirty years: two.

Might be a coincidence, and there have certainly been bigger factors deterring escalation since 1945; but it's a data point.


There were no world wars in nearly a century prior to the start of WWI either. Maybe they were the anomaly.
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