it's the 6th most populated city in the world and the most populated in the U.S., so apparently people actively choose to live somewhere that makes them unhappy.
It tends to bring out the best and worst in people, and it's perhaps easier for many to drift into the negatives because they're in your face every day. If your job existence is difficult it's a really tough place to exist. Ultimately, happiness is a choice and thick skin is required.
it's the 6th most populated city in the world and the most populated in the U.S., so apparently people actively choose to live somewhere that makes them unhappy.
Well, truth is a lot of people find better job prospects in NYC than elsewhere...personally, I love the fact I work in Midtown, which has allowed me to live in the city and experience all it has to offer.
But I do know folks who would choose to live elsewhere, but their best career prospects require them to live in (or near) Manhattan.
When you live in NYC
buford : 9:40 am : link : reply
you don't realize that there is a whole other world out there and it can be quite nice. It's not about 'not questioning', it's about a different way of life, with different priorities.
...anywhere.
The entire northeast is pretty much full of terrible people.
and end up being unhappy. Think about it this way - a lot of people who move to NY do it just out of college, when they are rootless and broke. You get a job, make some money, establish some relationships over time. Now, maybe 5 years from now you're established, but maybe the shine is off for you. However, your job is there, your significant other is there, your friends are there, plus now you have a lot more shit to move with you. It's much more of a chore to move now.
I can understand that because it was me, only in LA instead of NYC (I actually wanted to move to NYC at the time but I followed my then-girlfriend to LA. Yeah, that wasn't smart). I found it a no-brainer to just load up my car and move back to Virginia when my lease was up, but I know it's a harder decision for a lot of people.
When I called NYC a "sinkhole of unhappiness", I was making an objective observation about the level of unhappiness I encountered among many during my years spent everywhere. It's just factually accurate: many people move to NYC, find that it's not for them but stay anyway for various reasons, and stay unhappy.
If you love NYC, that's great. I know my wife loved it and still misses it now.
There are times when I feel like it would be cool to live in the city.
So much to do. But I would grow tired of it quickly. I much prefer the country where I live now. I like trees and open space and no annoying neighbors/people in general.
It tends to bring out the best and worst in people, and it's perhaps easier for many to drift into the negatives because they're in your face every day. If your job existence is difficult it's a really tough place to exist. Ultimately, happiness is a choice and thick skin is required.
Wise words.
RE: The entire northeast is pretty much full of terrible people.
If the city joined the year 2014, people would probably be happier.
Hard to do when the city's so huge. Would be nice to have a non-dark ages subway system, etc, but how do you do it would disrupting everything until the end of written history?
RE: It's because the freakin' tourists and their inability to understand..
If the city joined the year 2014, people would probably be happier.
Hard to do when the city's so huge. Would be nice to have a non-dark ages subway system, etc, but how do you do it would disrupting everything until the end of written history?
This is true too. It would take a long time to do as well, but it would be worth it. One line at a time.
I get annoyed with the traffic, breathing exhaust, packing into subway cars next to smelly fat people, shitty produce, lack of counter space in every kitchen I've had, people constantly getting in your way, sky high car insurance (sky high everything, really).
Then I walk 5 minutes to eat at a tremendous restaurant while passing 20 gorgeous chicks on the way and get why I put up with it.
That said, I love other cities too (esp out West). Denver, for instance, has an absurd quality of life.
and in the era I grew up I wouldn't have wanted to grow up anywhere else. Spent most of my life there until my early thirties when I moved away. While I still miss many things about being there moving away was the best decision I ever made. With the exception of the quality of the available local foods my life has improved dramatically.
So the obviously formula is to grow up there and live there through early adulthood then cash in your chips and move elsewhere.
I grew up here, moved away, and came back. Do you pay more? Yes. Is it more populated? Yes. However... it's one of the few places that has a diverse population with a zillion different cultures available to you at any moment. There is an energy here that is just different than most places and it can't be replicated. I didn't realize that until I left.
and end up being unhappy. Think about it this way - a lot of people who move to NY do it just out of college, when they are rootless and broke. You get a job, make some money, establish some relationships over time. Now, maybe 5 years from now you're established, but maybe the shine is off for you. However, your job is there, your significant other is there, your friends are there, plus now you have a lot more shit to move with you. It's much more of a chore to move now.
I can understand that because it was me, only in LA instead of NYC (I actually wanted to move to NYC at the time but I followed my then-girlfriend to LA. Yeah, that wasn't smart). I found it a no-brainer to just load up my car and move back to Virginia when my lease was up, but I know it's a harder decision for a lot of people.
Interesting...so you and Fekker actually have something in common. Did you also crave angry sex? I mean, you are perpetually angry, so that question actually answered itself.
I'll admit I didn't read it too closely. I liked Louisiana (and in general, NO) quite a bit, and I can imagine that if you had money to live comfortably there you'd have a blast.
doesn't take a ton of money to live comfortably in Louisiana
exposed on BBI. I vaguely remember something about it, I guess, but I don't know the details. I don't even have interest in ever visiting Chicago again, let alone move there.
Rob - True, but then is NO one of the happy Louisiana cities?
Well, truth is a lot of people find better job prospects in NYC than elsewhere...personally, I love the fact I work in Midtown, which has allowed me to live in the city and experience all it has to offer.
But I do know folks who would choose to live elsewhere, but their best career prospects require them to live in (or near) Manhattan.
buford : 9:40 am : link : reply
you don't realize that there is a whole other world out there and it can be quite nice. It's not about 'not questioning', it's about a different way of life, with different priorities.
...anywhere.
I can understand that because it was me, only in LA instead of NYC (I actually wanted to move to NYC at the time but I followed my then-girlfriend to LA. Yeah, that wasn't smart). I found it a no-brainer to just load up my car and move back to Virginia when my lease was up, but I know it's a harder decision for a lot of people.
NY can't be held responsible for Boston and Philly.
Kiss my ass.
But they're all on Long Island.
NY can't be held responsible for Boston and Philly.
As soon as you stop calling sheep a marital aid.
If you love NYC, that's great. I know my wife loved it and still misses it now.
You say that like those are bad things.
If the city joined the year 2014, people would probably be happier.
If the city joined the year 2014, people would probably be happier.
This is a big part of it. This I agree with 100%.
Wise words.
This
Most of Connecticut is nothing to write home about either
If the city joined the year 2014, people would probably be happier.
Hard to do when the city's so huge. Would be nice to have a non-dark ages subway system, etc, but how do you do it would disrupting everything until the end of written history?
That's why it's great to live somewhere that no tourists ever come.
Or maybe New Yorkers are more honest than most. Most people are conditioned to mask their own unhappiness. New Yorkers don't bother.
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has people so unhappy.
If the city joined the year 2014, people would probably be happier.
Hard to do when the city's so huge. Would be nice to have a non-dark ages subway system, etc, but how do you do it would disrupting everything until the end of written history?
This is true too. It would take a long time to do as well, but it would be worth it. One line at a time.
I get annoyed with the traffic, breathing exhaust, packing into subway cars next to smelly fat people, shitty produce, lack of counter space in every kitchen I've had, people constantly getting in your way, sky high car insurance (sky high everything, really).
Then I walk 5 minutes to eat at a tremendous restaurant while passing 20 gorgeous chicks on the way and get why I put up with it.
That said, I love other cities too (esp out West). Denver, for instance, has an absurd quality of life.
So the obviously formula is to grow up there and live there through early adulthood then cash in your chips and move elsewhere.
Good luck.
I can understand that because it was me, only in LA instead of NYC (I actually wanted to move to NYC at the time but I followed my then-girlfriend to LA. Yeah, that wasn't smart). I found it a no-brainer to just load up my car and move back to Virginia when my lease was up, but I know it's a harder decision for a lot of people.
Interesting...so you and Fekker actually have something in common. Did you also crave angry sex? I mean, you are perpetually angry, so that question actually answered itself.
Under what rock did you hide in that you don't know about the great Chicago affair?
And speaking of Chicago...another great city to visit but hell no to living there.
Rob - True, but then is NO one of the happy Louisiana cities?