NFT: Rangers and Chris Kreider comes to terms

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Now it is Brassard's turn.

tho there is some reporting that may be a stopgap with both sides willing to entertain talks in season toward a multi year deal.

Always good to get these bridge contracts done quickly. Hopefully there was little animosity. Dubinsky and Callahan by all accounts never got over what they thought were overly hard tactics from Sather on the bridge deals.

But would have liked to see Kreider locked down long term. Obviously counldnt be done under current cap constraints. Though I advocated trading Zucc, which would have given us prospects and room to resign some of our guys or extend Kreider for 5-6 years.

He wants way too much money, still has the kind of upside that could net them a nice return, and they could slot Miller in his spot. Oh well.

Put me in the camp that doesn't want to give Brassard multi years, not at $5M+, the dude disappears too often. Get Staal's extension done or trade him if it's time, though I'd prefer to trade DG instead.

In comment 11777520 Greg from LI said:

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He wants way too much money, still has the kind of upside that could net them a nice return, and they could slot Miller in his spot. Oh well.

Looking at other contracts for C's, I think he could get what he's asking for. If we could get him under 5, I'd be okay with that.

I just don't think he's worth it.

center is by far and away the Rangers weakest position. DB has that as leverage.

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JT Miller is not ready for a #2C job. Im not sure he'll ever be a #2C -- his future may well be at wing.

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I just don't think he's worth it.

I agree - ideally, those roles are filled by youth, but it's hard to pencil in a young guy as a 2C early on unless he's a truly superior prospect. It's much harder to pencil in young guys in the NHL than the NFL, imo, making it that much harder to let quality guys go.

to let Brassard go. Cannot realistically expect JT to fill that production right away.

2 year deal clutch

Ryan O'Reilly gets $6M in his RFA deal with Colorado. When it's Stepan's turn next season that's the number he'll be aiming for. And his offensive production has exceeded O'Reilly's. Something to keep in mind.

of a long-term deal arranged with Zucc, that can get finalized after January 1, because he's a keeper too.

There's the bridge. We will get outstanding value on that deal for the next 2 years but he's going to get PAID after that. Hopefully we can afford it.

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our best forward in the playoffs the past two seasons. And you want to get rid of him. Probably the same people who wanted to keep Boyle. The cap is going to go up from here, 5m for a 2nd line center is going to be a bargain.

If NYR inks Brassard to a multi-year, so be it, they know better than me.

Hagelin, Marty, Stepan all have a better claim to that.

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Yes. We're still not going to be able sign him for < 3 per if he has the couple of seasons I think he will.

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In comment 11777700 BrettNYG10 said: Quote: . Yes. We're still not going to be able sign him for < 3 per if he has the couple of seasons I think he will.

ARC!!!!!!!

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In comment 11777700 BrettNYG10 said: Quote: . Yes. We're still not going to be able sign him for < 3 per if he has the couple of seasons I think he will.

Yeah, my hope is that the RFA status would give us some leverage to get a team-friendly deal. At least better than if he were a UFA.

two seasons its been Brassard, and if you want to argue that two players on the 1st line were better this past season in Stepan and Marty that's fine, but your comparing him to 1st line players which is a compliment. As for Hagelin he had a good post season this past year, lets hoep he continues with that play. Either way, Brassard has been a gamer for us when it matters and he is still relatively young. I'd like to see if him and Zucc can continue to build chemistry.

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In comment 11777714 arcarsenal said: Quote: In comment 11777700 BrettNYG10 said: Quote: . Yes. We're still not going to be able sign him for < 3 per if he has the couple of seasons I think he will. Yeah, my hope is that the RFA status would give us some leverage to get a team-friendly deal. At least better than if he were a UFA.

I hope so. I think at least one of these next 2 years will be legit 30+ goal years for him.

Also.. LOUD NOISES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But think he's going to be a fantastic all-around player. Great forechecker, likes being physical, etc. If he had a better play-making C, I think he'd hit 30. Not ruling it out, just saying I find it unlikely.

1C. On most contenders, Stepan would be the 2C.

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Is a 2, and Barssard a 3, and we want to let Brassard walk, then we have a 2 and 2 other centers that are 4th liners, really good way to run a railroad.

watch a hockey game and focus entirely on the score sheet. No big deal if Boyle goes...but Brassard...amazing playoff player.

until I saw the incredibly affordable deal he settled for with Tampa. Boyle at 3 yr/$6mm vs Tanner Glass at 3yr/$4.5mm.... i mean, cmon...

Anyways, looks like the King is selling his pad. Buyer will need to a cleaning service to fumigate the bedroom at least a couple of times before its safe to move in.


The King Selling - Not Surprisingly, a Solid Bachelor Pad - ( New Window )

And he was told he wouldn't get that chance here. The money wasn't the issue.

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until I saw the incredibly affordable deal he settled for with Tampa. Boyle at 3 yr/$6mm vs Tanner Glass at 3yr/$4.5mm.... i mean, cmon... Anyways, looks like the King is selling his pad. Buyer will need to a cleaning service to fumigate the bedroom at least a couple of times before its safe to move in. The King Selling - Not Surprisingly, a Solid Bachelor Pad - ( New Window )

I'll buy it.

And yeah, Boyle wanted a different role. I respect that.

In comment 11778297 MetsAreBack said:

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until I saw the incredibly affordable deal he settled for with Tampa. Boyle at 3 yr/$6mm vs Tanner Glass at 3yr/$4.5mm.... i mean, cmon... Anyways, looks like the King is selling his pad. Buyer will need to a cleaning service to fumigate the bedroom at least a couple of times before its safe to move in. The King Selling - Not Surprisingly, a Solid Bachelor Pad - ( New Window )

Damn I wanted to surprise everyone with my new crib. You ruined it.

Go, now that we se that Sather did nothing to address his loss but bring in bumbs, was a major fuck up, letting Brassard go, who is a better player would be even a bigger fuck up. We let Boyle, Carcillo, Diaz, Dorsette, Stralman and Pouliot.

We brought in Glass, Lombardi, Stempniak, Boyle, Hunwick, Kampfer, and Kostka.

If anyone is alright with that, they need to get their heads examined.

That lacked grit and toughness, lets the three toughest players on the team go, and adds players that are soft. Not to add on to that but we also lost Callahan and added St Louis, and although he is more skilled, he is a pee wee while Callahan was also tough and gritty. Plus Pouliett was also playing pretty tough last season, he was filling a role on that line. This team is not a playoff team right now, and if they are they will need players to improve dramatically to do it, like Stepan, Brassard, Haglin, Kreider, Zuccarella, and Moore. They also need Lundqvist to be great again, and they need the real Nash and the real St Louis to be there all season, you think that is going to happen?

Really? Brian Boyle?

"this isnt a playoff team right now"

Unless you can predict Hank is going to miss 50 games next year with injury (or syphillis), it's a playoff team.

Can they get by Pittsburgh, Philly or CBJ? Dunno, but its definitely one of the best 8 teams in the ECF. Cmon now.

guess i'm just used to typing ECF when it comes to this team. They've missed the playoffs once since 2006... on the last game of the season... in overtime... but because they lost Stralman, Pouliot and Boyle and replaced them with Boyle, Stempniak and Glass a team that was a top 5 team in the league from December to the SCF isnt a playoff team now?

ok

I'd actually bet that they have more points this year than last. It's about the playoffs and their ability and depth to withstand four rounds. The team peaked at the right time this year (minus Nash). I think Boston's a bit on the decline, and think the East will be wide open come playoff time.