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Beckham Tweaked His Hamstring Again

Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/23/2014 12:50 pm
Ebenezer Samuel & #8207;@ebenezersamuel 38s

Reese says Beckham did indeed tweak his hammy again yesterday
Muthafucka  
Anakim : 7/23/2014 12:50 pm : link
.
At first glance I thought it said "tears hamstring"  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/23/2014 12:51 pm : link
Not great, but whatever. Rest the kid till he's ready.
He's officially a Giant now!!  
Sammo284 : 7/23/2014 12:52 pm : link
Fitting in seamlessly.
waiting  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/23/2014 12:52 pm : link
for the "it doesn't matter that he misses camp" posts.
He'll miss a ton of valuable practice time  
ZogZerg : 7/23/2014 12:53 pm : link
That sucks.
kid plays his whole life  
Fish : 7/23/2014 12:53 pm : link
Healthy. Come to giants with big expectations and squashed due to the injury bug. Hello Ike Hilliard 2.0
have fun on Osi's exercise bike  
Jints in Carolina : 7/23/2014 12:54 pm : link
see you in 2 months.
Sucks to miss time...  
Chris in Philly : 7/23/2014 12:55 pm : link
in the new offense, but better now than during the season.
don't these F-ers  
Pete from Woodstock : 7/23/2014 12:56 pm : link
stretch?!?!?!?! They should have mandatory Yoga before each practice!
I never say  
Fish : 7/23/2014 12:56 pm : link
Stuff like this but this was a bad pick. OL was the move here. Not this bull shit.
"She's got a hammy"  
MikeN in Ottawa : 7/23/2014 1:00 pm : link
I just heard BP say
Well I think it was Connor who did say  
Curtis in VA : 7/23/2014 1:03 pm : link
yesterday that Beckham reminded him of Hakeem Nicks.
Looking at bright side  
jjgmrg901 : 7/23/2014 1:03 pm : link
This gives more reps to Jernigan and some of the other rookies.
RE: I never say  
Klaatu : 7/23/2014 1:04 pm : link
In comment 11778097 Fish said:
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Stuff like this but this was a bad pick. OL was the move here. Not this bull shit.


Tweaking his hamstring makes Beckham a bad pick? I don't follow you.
Odell Beckhammy  
Exit 172 : 7/23/2014 1:05 pm : link
.
We should see him  
endwerc : 7/23/2014 1:05 pm : link
around Week 12.
Don't the Giants have to take part of the responsibility for this?  
Marty in Albany : 7/23/2014 1:07 pm : link
They knew about it during the OTAs.
Jernigan Time  
armstead98 : 7/23/2014 1:07 pm : link
Just yesterday I said that I expect JJ to start the season getting more reps than Beckham. This solidifies it.

I know they don't always play the same position but I bet we see Randle, Cruz and JJ as our top 3 when the season starts.
ugh  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 7/23/2014 1:07 pm : link
we need him to be an impact rookie.
Paging Mr. Randle  
Emil : 7/23/2014 1:09 pm : link
Mr. Reuben Randle...

This does suck, but it is also an opportunity for Jernigan, Manningham, and Randle. Just be happy we have 5 preseason games this year...strange to say that.

The only thing that heals a hammy is rest, strengthening, and more rest. If it is just a "tweak" I hope they shut him down for the rest of the week at least. If you don't let this heal it will reappear at the worst time.
I have a bad feeling that this will always be the story with this guy  
mac attack : 7/23/2014 1:11 pm : link
Not that I hated the pick, but I disagreed with it and I have just had this feeling that Beckham will be one of those constantly injured players (and always on the stationary bike).
Its the first day of camp.  
BLUATHRT : 7/23/2014 1:13 pm : link
And people are already going to who's going to replace his production (which we have no idea about anyways) with other guys on the roster? Holy Shit...
klaatu  
Fish : 7/23/2014 1:13 pm : link
I've seen this story before.
RE: I have a bad feeling that this will always be the story with this guy  
gmen9892 : 7/23/2014 1:14 pm : link
In comment 11778142 mac attack said:
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Not that I hated the pick, but I disagreed with it and I have just had this feeling that Beckham will be one of those constantly injured players (and always on the stationary bike).


And what did you base that off of? Just a gut feeling? He wasn't injury prone in college.
lets just write off his rookie season as a lost year now  
GiantsFan84 : 7/23/2014 1:15 pm : link
unreal
RE: don't these F-ers  
snumber6 : 7/23/2014 1:15 pm : link
In comment 11778095 Pete from Woodstock said:
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stretch?!?!?!?! They should have mandatory Yoga before each practice!


I wrote an article las year about problems caused by a deficiency od copper in one's diet ... at one point with all the copper piping ... people got all the copper they needed accidentally through water leaching small amounts of copper ... The EPA back some 20 years ago put a rule in effect that required lowering the copper levels at the tap through the addition of some chemicals like zinc and phosphorous ... so this accidental source of a needed mineral was now gone ...
A major problem with copper deficiency is connective tissue disorders ... most of the work here was done on animals where copper is routinely added as a mineral into their diets to prevent that ... One never sees a cow with a torn acl or the like :-) ...

I wonder if this rash of connective tissue injuries versus 20 years ago is due to that ... I don't think anyone ever gets a blood test to see if copper levels are normal or deficient as historically it's never been a problem and no one has ever seen a need for it ...
Athletes who put more stress on these tissues might be more prone towards these ligament weaknesses causing problems there or by extension to the muscular skeletal areas ...
I'm waiting to hear Beckham say: I could play if the game was tomorrow  
Marty in Albany : 7/23/2014 1:16 pm : link
Yeah, right.
Guy has been healthy his whole  
Mark from Jersey : 7/23/2014 1:16 pm : link
career...bad luck
This team spends every single summer basically  
Jimmy Googs : 7/23/2014 1:16 pm : link
limping its way through camp and preseason.

You can almost see the ESPN screen shot now for Game 1 that lists 15 injured players for the Giants, and 3 for Detroit.



jeez  
RicFlair : 7/23/2014 1:17 pm : link
the sky is really falling in here huh.
I know this isn't uncommon in the NFL  
Greg from LI : 7/23/2014 1:18 pm : link
But I don't think it's the norm for this to happen every.....single.....goddamned year. Once in a while, you'd think the Giants would have some injury luck. Teams DO have good luck with injuries sometimes, you know?
The offense is allegedly simpler, so while this sucks, maybe it won't  
Riggies : 7/23/2014 1:18 pm : link
automatically make him a non-contributor until week 15 (if lucky) like it would have under Gilbride.

He'll fall behind, but no where near as much... maybe?
This is going to severely hamper his expecatations  
bradshaw44 : 7/23/2014 1:18 pm : link
for the beginning of the season at the very least.
I'm not worried this will always be the story...  
Milton : 7/23/2014 1:20 pm : link
...but I'm worried it could derail his rookie season if they don't get a handle on it. He had a month to rest it and then right away he tweaks it again. Not a good sign that this will be easily treatable.
Well that sucks  
nyjuggernaut : 7/23/2014 1:21 pm : link
Hammy injuries can linger for a while too. Hope this isn't an ongoing issue all season.

Regardless, I still wish the Giants would've taken Zach Martin. More of a need then, and even moreso now with Snee retiring.
the stupid  
NYBEN : 7/23/2014 1:23 pm : link
on this thread is unbeleivable
My  
AcidTest : 7/23/2014 1:31 pm : link
prediction: Beckham goes to IR before the bye. Seriously, every year, more and more hammies.
.  
Stan from LA : 7/23/2014 1:31 pm : link
This place is a looney bin.  
BLUATHRT : 7/23/2014 1:34 pm : link
Seriously, everybody chill out!
Speed position.  
Randy in CT : 7/23/2014 1:36 pm : link
Very hot and humid. Hammy tweak. Par for the course?

We'll get through this.
RE: This place is a looney bin.  
Curtis in VA : 7/23/2014 1:37 pm : link
In comment 11778211 BLUATHRT said:
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Seriously, everybody chill out!


Eli's got this?
RE: This place is a looney bin.  
Jints in Carolina : 7/23/2014 1:37 pm : link
In comment 11778211 BLUATHRT said:
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Seriously, everybody chill out!


normally I agree, but not with what has been going on with injuries for what seems like a decade here.
I consider it a curse  
WideRight : 7/23/2014 1:40 pm : link
for the SB runs.

No other way to explain it.

We just heard he tweaked a hammy....  
BLUATHRT : 7/23/2014 1:42 pm : link
it's not an acl. Perspective... Beason's injury could have been a disaster, looks like he's on target to play by the season opener. Guys who could have been questionable to even participate in camp, namely our LT, a possible 3rd or 4th wideout in Manningham and possibly the starting RG are all participating in camp, even if limited. It seems to me the injury situation might be starting out more favorable than originally thought.
How Is It  
Bernie : 7/23/2014 1:44 pm : link
that this is an annual occurrence for the Giants? I just don't get how world class athletes become so fragile the minute they become professionals. And all of this while they are playing 2 hand touch.

I'll panic  
NYBEN : 7/23/2014 1:45 pm : link
if he shoot himself in a nightclub not for a tweaked hammy
Beckham will be fine  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/23/2014 1:48 pm : link
!
fyi  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/23/2014 1:51 pm : link
stuff on Bechkam and others in LIVE Updates....

Connor Hughes ‏@Connor_J_Hughes 43s

QBs throwing to WR/TE/RB... Beckham doesn't run routes. Just walks from one side to the other. #Giants #BBI
Not great news  
jLefty : 7/23/2014 1:57 pm : link
Being a pessimist this "just a tweak" is a worry. When I heard about Nicks' foot, I worried.Sure this is nothing - but.
How anyone can look at this roster and think, even for a second  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/23/2014 1:59 pm : link
that WR wasn't a tremendous need in the draft is beyond my comprehension. You would literally have had to not watch the team play last season or in 2012.
.....  
SamTheTram : 7/23/2014 2:04 pm : link
/appears on the injury reports until November
Hammys can take forever to heal. This really IS bad news.  
yatqb : 7/23/2014 2:13 pm : link
I think it could set him back enough that he won't be a factor in the 1st half of the season. Hope I'm wrong.
Yatqb  
George : 7/23/2014 2:22 pm : link
There's a difference between a "tweak" and a "tear" (just like there's a difference between a "twerp" and a "twerk," which we can discuss on a different thread).

A torn hamstring is a killer and means you're out for a couple months. A tweaked hamstring means a week of rest and some physical therapy. If he's on the field and walking through drills, it's a tweak, not a tear - but it could be a twerk and not a twerp.
RE: klaatu  
Klaatu : 7/23/2014 2:22 pm : link
In comment 11778148 Fish said:
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I've seen this story before.


I still don't follow you. What does drafting a WR instead of an OL in the 1st round have to do with that WR getting injured?
.  
arcarsenal : 7/23/2014 2:30 pm : link
This is not a Giants-only issue. I don't know why there are posters who continually fail to understand that. There are guys in basically every teams camps that are having these same problems.

Go and follow another team this closely for a week during camp and read every single tweet like we have here and you'll quickly realize that these issues pop up everywhere. It's a league wide problem.

I don't know why all these players are having seemingly more ailments and non-contact injuries happening now but this isn't something unique to the Giants. It's just a really, really fucking annoying, unfortunate part of football.
can't imagine getting worked up over this  
UConn4523 : 7/23/2014 2:35 pm : link
injuries can and will happen. We just hope they are limited and aren't significant.

If he misses some time, whatever. Just be there week 1. No way am I going to get worked up over a pulled hammy when rest will heal it. Sucks that it happened but it can be 1,000x worse.
Sammy Watkins got poked in the eye the other day.  
Klaatu : 7/23/2014 2:38 pm : link
Clearly, the Bills should've drafted Jake Matthews.
personally  
Fish : 7/23/2014 2:39 pm : link
I did not hear of Beckham being sought after. We needed OL depth which was addressed with Richburg. But if we draft stud tackle or guard with Pugh and Richburg then we are solid for years. Instead we go with this kid who was not considered at all until draft day. There was a buzz on him and we pounced. If OL was not the pick then DT could have been. Deep WR draft class and we got this guy early.
Injury prevention.. you'd think  
RAIN : 7/23/2014 2:39 pm : link
The training staff would be rethinking its regimen with an eye toward preventing soft tissue injuries like this. The injury situation on our team is usually among the worst in the league. I wonder what our staff is doing to rethink its approach. That would make a good story either way.
OL don't run at full speed and then stop on a dime  
andrew_nyg : 7/23/2014 2:41 pm : link
going from a straight line and then right or left.

Plus, the WR corp may have needed more talent, but they didn't suck ass like the OLINE.

With Snee now gone, and Beatty still a question to go with all of the other uncertainty...Zach Martin would be looking really good right now.

An immediate plug in next to Pugh, and a 1st man up in case Beatty can't play.
RE: personally  
UConn4523 : 7/23/2014 2:42 pm : link
In comment 11778409 Fish said:
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I did not hear of Beckham being sought after. We needed OL depth which was addressed with Richburg. But if we draft stud tackle or guard with Pugh and Richburg then we are solid for years. Instead we go with this kid who was not considered at all until draft day. There was a buzz on him and we pounced. If OL was not the pick then DT could have been. Deep WR draft class and we got this guy early.


You seem to be implying that we only took him because of buzz. Do you really think our FO operates like that?
Beckham would fit in quite well  
Exit 172 : 7/23/2014 2:45 pm : link
with the U.S. Men's National Team in soccer.
FIsh - Beckham was not just a kid everybody heard of on  
Jimmy Googs : 7/23/2014 2:45 pm : link
draft day.

You may have wanted an O-lineman more but don't say it wasn't a good pick because he has a sore hamstring in July.
The giants get  
area junc : 7/23/2014 2:47 pm : link
More injuries than other teams. That is a proven fact
RE: RE: personally  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/23/2014 2:48 pm : link
In comment 11778422 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 11778409 Fish said:


Quote:


I did not hear of Beckham being sought after. We needed OL depth which was addressed with Richburg. But if we draft stud tackle or guard with Pugh and Richburg then we are solid for years. Instead we go with this kid who was not considered at all until draft day. There was a buzz on him and we pounced. If OL was not the pick then DT could have been. Deep WR draft class and we got this guy early.



You seem to be implying that we only took him because of buzz. Do you really think our FO operates like that?


Of course Fish would be castigating and practicing self immolation if the GMen had selected a Lineman and he had tweaked his hammy yesterday

[[[[[Head slap]]]]]]

Duh
injuries bring out the stupid  
UConn4523 : 7/23/2014 2:49 pm : link
I should know that by now...
every single year?  
djm : 7/23/2014 2:50 pm : link
not really. MAtter of fact, I can't think of a recent training camp that saw the Giants get completely rocked with injuries. They get rocked at times during the preseason...actually they don't...they just lose one big time player in week 3 preseason every year.

WHere the Giants have had injury problems has been right around week 7-8. This happened in 2004. Happened in 2005. 2006....and again in 2010...and even 2012.

The Giants don't suffer that many injuries during training camp and a slight boo boo to the rookie's hammy doesn't change things.

Rookies and younger players tend to pull or tweak things this time of year. Don't panic.
even last year  
djm : 7/23/2014 2:51 pm : link
Snee got hurt in week 1 I believe. Same with Baas. And I wouldn't even count those guys as injuries as much as they were ticking time bombs.

I tore my hamstring  
halfback20 : 7/23/2014 2:55 pm : link
Saturday playing softball.

Hurts like hell. Hopefully his isn't bad and he can rest a few days and not have to worry about it.
I said it earlier  
djm : 7/23/2014 2:55 pm : link
people expecting this rookie to come in here and just blow up and impact this offense, especially early on are asking for disappointment. I'm cautiously hopeful Beckham can contribute as the year progresses but we don't need this kid to be an impact player right out of the gates as much as we need him to be an impact player for the better part of his NYG career.

Of course you want impact out of the 12th pick but the season doesn't rest on this kid's shoulders. Bring him along slowly and hopefully he's making plays as the season moves along.
Plax,  
oldog : 7/23/2014 3:04 pm : link
had a lot of hamstring problems, and then he shot them away. What is it with these WRs.
Major Mistake Passing on Aaron Donald  
geelabee : 7/23/2014 3:07 pm : link
While BeckHam is Having problems already staying on the field...Aaron Donald was impressive to the point where O coordinator Brian Shottenheimer is predicting Donald as the DROY. Took a lot of crap from guys on this board for loudly and aggressively wanting Donald bad due to the fact he appeared to be a once in a decade DT...still can't believe the Giants passed on Donald...like I said as well as many other...despite the fact that I think Beckham will turn out to be a good player...the Giants will be extremely sorry passing on Aaron Donald
Aaron Donald Impressing Coaches  
geelabee : 7/23/2014 3:08 pm : link
Brian Shott Quote:
Ram's Article on Donald - ( New Window )
Wonder if he tweeked it  
Hondo : 7/23/2014 3:12 pm : link
at all the 3 years he was working out with Eli during the summers. Eli should have warned us!
This is a strength training issue  
Joey in VA : 7/23/2014 3:22 pm : link
The quad to hamstring strength ratio should be around 3:2, hamstring pulls are because it's compensating for the work the quad does. If the quad is too strong or hamstring too weak, you get a pull, it's very simple balance that our strength coach should pay much closer attention to.

Cybex machines can test the muscle's ability to do work and you can tweak your training appropriately.
RE: The giants get  
arcarsenal : 7/23/2014 3:25 pm : link
In comment 11778436 area junc said:
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More injuries than other teams. That is a proven fact


No, it isn't.
The Bengals have 13 guys on their PUP list.  
Klaatu : 7/23/2014 3:27 pm : link
We have one.
.  
arcarsenal : 7/23/2014 3:28 pm : link
And for fucks sake.. this kid pulls a hammy in July and now we're going to "regret passing" on the legend himself.. Aaron fucking Donald because of it.

Some people have absolutely no sense of, well.. anything.
RE: This is a strength training issue  
natefit : 7/23/2014 3:31 pm : link
In comment 11778519 Joey in VA said:
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The quad to hamstring strength ratio should be around 3:2, hamstring pulls are because it's compensating for the work the quad does. If the quad is too strong or hamstring too weak, you get a pull, it's very simple balance that our strength coach should pay much closer attention to.

Cybex machines can test the muscle's ability to do work and you can tweak your training appropriately.


That is correct but also many hammy injuries are occuring due to weak glutes and hip flexors etc whereby the hammy is unsuccessfully trying to accomodate to much of the load. Again tho, there are specific exercises to address these issues.
IIRC  
Bleedin Blue : 7/23/2014 3:50 pm : link
someone posted that we wouldn't have to worry about Beckham and Hammy issues because his mom is a world class sprinter and he should know how to stretch! Well there goes that theory! LOL! Either way it's the second day of camp and the report is that he Tweaked his hammy so No the Sky is not falling, relax he has plenty of time. It does suck that he wont be on the field getting his reps in.
one thing I know -  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/23/2014 3:53 pm : link
you can't help stupid - it's probably incurable
I don't see how this, in any way, constitutes a bad pick  
Matt M. : 7/23/2014 3:56 pm : link
I am, however, concerned. This is valuable practice time for a rookie. He is a rookie who was expected to push for a starting job to open the season, which makes it worse. I do think they have a nice, deep group of WRs, which can overcome this. But, I still would rather have potentially our 2nd best WR on the field.
I fucking hate training camp the last few years.  
Crispino : 7/23/2014 4:16 pm : link
You just wait for the day's injury news. And it always comes.
At  
CapeGman : 7/23/2014 4:58 pm : link
least if this becomes a problem this year we know Jernigan can produce.
Wow just great..  
prdave73 : 7/23/2014 5:37 pm : link
Should of drafted Aaron Donald, but that's just my opinion..
Speaking of cows...  
ed90631 : 7/23/2014 6:21 pm : link
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...One never sees a cow with a torn acl or the like :-)
One never sees a cow running pass routes either. LOL
RE: fyi  
steve in ky : 7/23/2014 6:48 pm : link
In comment 11778260 Eric from BBI said:
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stuff on Bechkam and others in LIVE Updates....

Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 43s

QBs throwing to WR/TE/RB... Beckham doesn't run routes. Just walks from one side to the other. #Giants #BBI


I view the fact that he is still out there as good news. If it were bad he would be in the trainers room.
He won't be able to bed it like...  
Frank in Mexico City : 7/23/2014 7:08 pm : link
Beckham for awhile. I swear I thought this was a soccer thread (post world cup hangover)...time to switch into training camp mode.
bed =Bend  
Frank in Mexico City : 7/23/2014 7:09 pm : link
lame joke...
It's a shame to hear about Golden Tates hamstring  
ghost718 : 7/23/2014 7:47 pm : link
I listened to our GM,Jerry Schneider,and he said these things just happen.Coach Pete Carroll also wasn't a happy camper.

With any luck,he'll be able to resume practice soon and join his teammates on the New York Seahawks.
RE: don't these F-ers  
mattlawson : 7/23/2014 7:59 pm : link
In comment 11778095 Pete from Woodstock said:
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stretch?!?!?!?! They should have mandatory Yoga before each practice!



Been saying this for a while
i wanted the OL early  
msh : 7/23/2014 8:53 pm : link
too but lets face it beckham was worth the pick the run on OL meant OL wasnt as good a pick at that spot as beckham was
hard to be mad when you look at the talent they got in this draft

all signs looking good on OL so far beatty looking like he is getting back to form,the silence around pugh means he is getting it done,if schwartz and richburg can grab the OC and OG spots then they only need 1 starting OG out of the rest of the OL guys they have now.

would like that to be brewer or mosely so those picks werent a bust,snee retiring could be a good thing they save cap money and can sign a cut down to relace him if needed
and will remove the temptation to play him when he isnt the same/fit enough to handle it

alex boone is also an option if they get him for a trade and can work out a contract for the right terms 6th round pick plus the right cap figure/number of years ?? maybe
Of course he did  
deadkurtrulz : 7/23/2014 9:16 pm : link
what do you expect from a smurf that initially pulled his hammy signing his contract ?

He will be awesome addition to the exercise bike brigade.

He hasn't even been hit yet. I wonder what will break when is actually tackled.
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