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NFT: The online reaction of cops to the death of Eric Garner

Greg from LI : 7/23/2014 3:09 pm
Let's crank the hate and discontent up to 11!

In many of our previous police brutality threads, a common response from their defenders is how there are only a few bad eggs that are responsible for these cases. So, with that in mind, peruse the comments left at PoliceOne and Thee Rant, message boards open only to law enforcement (IOW, you cannot register to post there without proving you are a current or former cop)......


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Greg  
Ralph.C : 7/24/2014 12:15 pm : link
And not even a clean NFL hit. I think that hit draws a personal foul flag on the field.
IMPACT PUSH?  
Kyle : 7/24/2014 12:16 pm : link
Oh for crying loud...
That's the wrong backstory.  
manh george : 7/24/2014 12:18 pm : link
The gif is from the Austin incident.

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Acevedo reiterated that the woman was placed under arrest because she failed to identify herself, not for resisting arrest. But still the criticism on social media is that the officers used excessive force...

Acevedo contends the woman knew full well that officers were trying to stop her, but she still decided to act the way she did. Acevedo said to reporters that if he were the attending officer, he would have probably arrested her for resisting arrest.


Speaking via Twitter about the incident, Acevedo noted that Austin police made 28 contacts, issued seven citations, and handed out warnings to offenders during the initiative which Stephen became a part of.

A UT student named Christopher Quintero began taking pictures and video of the developing scene, which escalated into Stephen crying on the ground in handcuffs. She reportedly refused to give the officers her name. Stephen was eventually put into a squad car, where on the video you can hear her screaming at police. She was then taken to jail for booking.

Quintero's video and pictures quickly went viral once he put them up on his own blog Thursday. He later told the Austin American-Statesman that he thought Stephen handled the situation "poorly" with police.


Handling it badly or not, nothing justified a full body tackle from behind, of course.
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Kyle, you are just ignorant of the dangers of law enforcement  
Greg from LI : 7/24/2014 12:19 pm : link
She could have had hairspray on her, and sprayed him in the face! Or played a Justin Bieber song on her phone! The man's life could have been in danger for God's sake - don't you want that officer to go home safely at the end of his shift?
no, it's not from the Austin incident  
Greg from LI : 7/24/2014 12:22 pm : link
Look at the picture - it's clearly a different girl. The girl in Austin had blonde braids and Five Fingers-type running shoes. The girl in the gif has dark, loose hair and looks like she's wearing Chuck Taylors.
Yeah, you are probably right.  
manh george : 7/24/2014 12:35 pm : link
Btw, when it comes to excessive force, no one is in Albequerque's league.


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Very true  
Greg from LI : 7/24/2014 12:36 pm : link
I'm glad I have no reason to ever be in Albaquerque
heroic officer thwarts hardened criminal:  
Nitro : 7/24/2014 12:44 pm : link

fired? of course not - also he's a preemptive fuck off to Rob - ( New Window )
here's  
Nitro : 7/24/2014 12:44 pm : link
.
That gif reminds me  
River Mike : 7/24/2014 1:09 pm : link
of an incident involving my closest friend with the police. Mt friend had a cage insreted on his spine and came out of the incident a paraplegic. After years of PT he was able to walk with assistence, crutches or a walker. Sitting on his own front porch a cop car pulled up cop got out of his car and said there was a complaint about a barking dog. My friend said it wasn't from his dog. The officer told him to produce identification. Friend objected, saying he was sitting on his own porch not bothering anyone. Officer said show identification or I'll bring you down to the station.

My friend said alright, I'll go down to the station, let me get my crutches. At that point the cop grabbed him, threw him to the ground and yelled "you don't need no God damned crutches". Cop turned him over, pushed his knee into my friend's spine and cuffed him, then threw him into the car. My friend objected to what he felt was an unwarrented trampling on his rights when he was at his house doing nothing wrong. But that aside, the key is that he did not resist arrest, he was complying and only asked to get his crutches.

I have no doubt some of you will say its his fault, he should have produced an ID. I disagree, and again, he did not resist arrest and the officer's action was TOTALLY unwarranted.
Should be  
River Mike : 7/24/2014 1:10 pm : link
"out of the surgery", nout "out of the incident"
Should be  
River Mike : 7/24/2014 1:10 pm : link
"out of the surgery", not "out of the incident"
RE: That's the wrong backstory.  
Ralph.C : 7/24/2014 1:57 pm : link
In comment 11779810 manh george said:
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The gif is from the Austin incident.



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Acevedo reiterated that the woman was placed under arrest because she failed to identify herself, not for resisting arrest. But still the criticism on social media is that the officers used excessive force...

Acevedo contends the woman knew full well that officers were trying to stop her, but she still decided to act the way she did. Acevedo said to reporters that if he were the attending officer, he would have probably arrested her for resisting arrest.


Speaking via Twitter about the incident, Acevedo noted that Austin police made 28 contacts, issued seven citations, and handed out warnings to offenders during the initiative which Stephen became a part of.

A UT student named Christopher Quintero began taking pictures and video of the developing scene, which escalated into Stephen crying on the ground in handcuffs. She reportedly refused to give the officers her name. Stephen was eventually put into a squad car, where on the video you can hear her screaming at police. She was then taken to jail for booking.

Quintero's video and pictures quickly went viral once he put them up on his own blog Thursday. He later told the Austin American-Statesman that he thought Stephen handled the situation "poorly" with police.



Handling it badly or not, nothing justified a full body tackle from behind, of course. Link - ( New Window )


No it's not. The Austin woman was blonde. Here is an image of the Austin Woman. I have the right backstory:
That "impact push" gif/story is amazing  
Go Terps : 7/24/2014 1:57 pm : link
Luckily, that cop is part of a "brotherhood" of "heroes".

What a crock of shit.
Jeez.  
Cam in MO : 7/24/2014 2:47 pm : link
Here's the whole video.

Dude immediately runs her down and gives her the atomic impact push as soon as he arrives on the scene.



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RE: Jeez.  
Kyle : 7/24/2014 2:49 pm : link
In comment 11780208 Cam in MO said:
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Here's the whole video.

Dude immediately runs her down and gives her the atomic impact push as soon as he arrives on the scene.

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He's a real hero, and a real human being.
RE: Jeez.  
Cam in MO : 7/24/2014 2:49 pm : link
In comment 11780208 Cam in MO said:
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Here's the whole video.

Dude immediately runs her down and gives her the atomic impact push as soon as he arrives on the scene.

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Guy gets out of the truck at 1:46 and takes her out by 1:59.

13 seconds evidently was more than enough time to get her to stop and come back to the scene as well as determine that she was some sort of threat I guess.


RE: RE: STOP RESISTING!  
Jan in DC : 7/24/2014 2:57 pm : link
In comment 11779793 Ralph.C said:
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In comment 11779417 Greg from LI said: Here's the backstory on that gif


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Backstory : PHOENIX - An officer is under investigation for using excessive force after YouTube video is posted of him pushing a teenage girl against a wall, knocking her to the ground. Phoenix Police Officer Patrick Larrison has been placed on administrative while the criminal and internal investigation is underway. The use-of-force case incident caught on tape. A Phoenix Police employee saw the video and told supervisors. Back in January, at Ombudsman Charter School, the 15-year-old girl was caught drinking at school. When her mom arrived, she and her mom got into a physical fight, and the police were called. She was apparently belligerent and walked away from officers. That's when Officer Larrison used an 'impact push' to stop her and handcuff her.



Impact push. I'm going to put that one in the memory bank for later.
Sort of on-topic  
BurberryManning : 7/24/2014 3:38 pm : link
NJ.com just released a story regarding the state paying $150k towards the settlement of a lawsuit stemming from a man seriously injured in an accident caused by a State Trooper that was then covered up.

Apparently the off-duty officer was never tested for alcohol consumption by his fellow officers at the scene, who also used the off-duty officer's undercover alias on the accident report which prevented the injured victim from identifying the man that caused his accident. The officer was later identified and found to have been treated for his own injuries at a nearby hospital at which time he also registered a BAC more than three times the legal limit.
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hero cop  
Nitro : 7/24/2014 7:12 pm : link
ends hooliganism single handedly.
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RE: hero cop  
AnotherGiantsFan : 7/24/2014 7:47 pm : link
In comment 11780634 Nitro said:
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ends hooliganism single handedly. Link - ( New Window )


It should be illegal to be that hammered off only having 3 beers. So in that perspective, the cop went easy on him. Right?
RE: RE: hero cop  
Cam in MO : 7/24/2014 8:00 pm : link
In comment 11780646 AnotherGiantsFan said:
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In comment 11780634 Nitro said:


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ends hooliganism single handedly. Link - ( New Window )



It should be illegal to be that hammered off only having 3 beers. So in that perspective, the cop went easy on him. Right?



Trollolololol
I've been trying to  
TheNeumann64 : 7/24/2014 8:06 pm : link
not post, because my thoughts are complicated, and I'm sure I won't get them out right. But here goes:

Every situation is different, of course. And I'm sure sometimes you could see a situation where a police officer looks to be using excessive force, and is really acting appropriately, but the video makes it seem like the cop(s) are being overly aggressive.

But, it certainly does seem now like the burden of physical violence has gone from when they are in fear for the safety of themselves and others, down to just people not fully, immediately complying with everything they say. I don't think we should be content with an answer of "Do what the cops say and you won't get beat" in this society.

Bill Maher had a great thing the other night about the militarization of these small town police forces, that now have tanks and grenade launchers they got from the military. And his point was basically that if you give someone a grenade launcher, they're going to find a reason they need to use a grenade launcher.

Doesn't totally correlate to these stories, which are about human force, but same principal I think. It does seem like all too often you really feel like they want you to disobey or question something they tell you to do so they can throw you to the ground and rough you up.

True of every cop in every situation? No, of course not. But I do think there's becoming more and more of it, and there's still a large percentage of people who could see 6 cops kicking an old woman for jaywalking, and would say "Well she shouldn't have been talking back."

these threads always get to me  
santacruzom : 7/24/2014 11:27 pm : link
Few things disturb, anger and scare me more than misappropriated power and authority wielded by people who aren't held accountable. Especially when wielded by abusive cops whose actions are condoned or dismissed by a power structure that bends over backwards to diminish their wrongdoings.
I think it's funny when people "take it to the judge"  
Sonic Youth : 7/25/2014 8:00 am : link
Yeah, right. Your word vs a cops... you always lose. Just another reason they are even able to abuse their power so badly.
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