ALGIERS, Algeria (AP) — A flight operated by Air Algerie and carrying 116 people from Burkina Faso to Algeria's capital disappeared from radar early Thursday, the plane's owner said.
Air navigation services lost track of the Swiftair MD-83 about 50 minutes after takeoff from Ougadougou, the capital of Burkina Faso, at 0155 GMT (9:55 p.m. EDT Wednesday), the official Algerian news agency said. That means that Flight 5017 had been missing for hours before the news was made public.
The flight path of the plane from Ouagadougou, the capital of the west African nation of Burkina Faso, to Algiers wasn't immediately clear. Ougadougou is in a nearly straight line south of Algiers, passing over Mali where unrest continues in the north.
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I leave for Greece in 5 weeks, i'm not a nervous flyer, but that may change...
Absolutely hate comments like these. No offense. Let me know the statistics of surviving a car crash vs. surviving a plane crash...
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much safer than driving to the super market
Absolutely hate comments like these. No offense. Let me know the statistics of surviving a car crash vs. surviving a plane crash...
Yeah but it's true. Your survival rate is awful (of course so is your survival rate for high-speed crashes) but your chances of being in an accident are miniscule, basically negligible.
I fly well, pretty much tune everything out, but comparing to traveling any other way is ridiculous.
I fly well, pretty much tune everything out, but comparing to traveling any other way is ridiculous.
What's ridiculous is not acknowledging the difference between a lifetime 1 in 112 chance of dying by car accident and a 1 in 8,357 chance of dying by plane accident.
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there's far more car crashes, but a large portion of them aren't fatal, and another large portion are the drivers fault.
I fly well, pretty much tune everything out, but comparing to traveling any other way is ridiculous.
What's ridiculous is not acknowledging the difference between a lifetime 1 in 112 chance of dying by car accident and a 1 in 8,357 chance of dying by plane accident. Link - ( New Window )
I completely acknowledge it, you are missing my point which is basically calling out people making an apples to apples comparison.
If I flew a plane along with every other person, then it would be a valid statistic. But comparing plane crashes to auto crashes couldn't be on further ends of the spectrum. It makes no sense.
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I'm honestly more scared driving to the airport because 7/10 drivers I pass are texting, talking, putting on makeup, etc.
and you will see just how quick
Up there we all play by the same rules, and 99.9999999999% of us are professionals who are just as concerned about our asses as we are about yours.
I understand the statistics. It still isn't comparing 2 like things, in my opinion. I get why people use the statistics, but to me they are two very different things; partially controlling the situation being a driver being the main reason as is the high rate at which people who crash, survive.
I understand the statistics. It still isn't comparing 2 like things, in my opinion. I get why people use the statistics, but to me they are two very different things; partially controlling the situation being a driver being the main reason as is the high rate at which people who crash, survive. [/quote]
The "control" theory does not hold any water from a statistical perspective. It is merely a straw man used to justify an irrational fear of flying that is not supported by any kind of mathematical basis.
No it's not. Only 3 people died from the Asiana crash, and you could probably claim 1 of those was due to a "car accident". There were 307 people on board, so <1% killed in that crash.
That's why planes don't fly when their "check engine" lights are on and you get mechanical delays. I'm sure millions of people a day drive their cars with the check engine lights on (which also likely check a lot few things than those on a plane).
No one gives a shit what you think either. Definitely don't care if no one agrees with me, but saying one is safer than the other when talking about planes means death or no death. Were you talking about hitting your head in the bathroom stall?
And the plane crashed, people died (I would imagine). So talking about planes crashing is what this thread is kind of about.
Just jokin around man :)
From the article, there's about 1.3 deaths per every 100 million vehicle miles driven vs about 1.9 deaths per every 100 million vehicle miles flying.
There are so many different ways of figuring it out. If I have a fender bender with no injuries, does that count as a driving risk? What about the number of times my airline has been delayed or cancelled due to something or other, or that I missed my connecting flight? injuries per mile driven? I'll bet my last dollar that there's far more than 1.3 injuries per 100 mil miles driving and that there's not much more than 1.9 injuries per 100 mil miles flying, but that's just a guess.
Bottom line is I don't have a problem flying to Chicago, or driving to Chicago. the odds are overwhelmingly in my favor of getting there by either method.
statistics can be so enlightening, and so stupid at the same time.
That's my whole point which fkap articulated far better than I did.
That comparison is about as apples to apples as it gets.
It doesn't matter that when a crash happens who is more likely to die. The fact remains that the chances of dying from a car crash is more likely than dying from a plane crash.
nice troll job on this thread UConn. yeah, comparing two methods of travel is like comparing apples and oranges. LOL.
And no it isn't apples to apples. Too many factors aren't taken into account in those statistics. Just like QBR or whatever you want to rank QB's with. Stats only tell so much.
If everyone started hot air ballooning everywhere people would die at high rates. Why? Because crashing almost always results in death.
I'm not afraid to fly, if its my time its my time. But I 100% feel safer in my car with me controlling most of my own fate than I do when getting into a plane.
good to know, dale earnhardt.