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| Examples of abuse include an annual midnight band practice at Ohio Stadium in which men and women were expected to march wearing only their underwear. In one recent year, a student suffered alcohol poisoning at the practice. Students led the rehearsal, but staff members, including Waters, were there, too. Some other traditions: All new band members, or “rookies,” were given nicknames, many of which were sexually explicit. Rookies were forced to perform “tricks” on command. In one case, a female student was told to imitate a sexual act on the laps of other band members, including her brother. Several witnesses said that students performed a “flying 69” on tour buses, in which band members hung from the luggage racks and posed in a sexual position. Waters was on the bus when that happened as recently as last fall, according to a band staff member who quit last year. The staff member told investigators she resigned from the band because Waters would not address alcohol abuse on that trip. An “unofficial” songbook was part of the evidence that investigators provided to university leaders, with raunchy lyrics set to school songs at other colleges. |
but somehow you still don't understand how this:
of course you don't. if you did, then you'd have to admit you were wrong.
Focus, people.
Well fucking no. That's just ridiculous. And while Mom's point is that just because someone tells you to do something doesn't mean it's smart or you should, it's still a ridiculous assertion.
Just like YAJ's comparison of the OSU Band Director looking the other way to college kids fucking around too much and Paterno looking the other way as one of his coaches raped little boys... is fucking ridiculous.
Believe it not fellas, an analogy can be logically coherent and still be silly when the two things being compared are so drastically different. But to play the BBI game, no YAJ, I do not find it OK that Paterno looked the other way, but, from a moral standpoint, I do find it OK that the OSU band director did (though other posters have brought up very reasonable points about the liability angle).
Wrong.
This has been fun!
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Well fucking no. That's just ridiculous. And while Mom's point is that just because someone tells you to do something doesn't mean it's smart or you should, it's still a ridiculous assertion.
Just like YAJ's comparison of the OSU Band Director looking the other way to college kids fucking around too much and Paterno looking the other way as one of his coaches raped little boys... is fucking ridiculous.
Believe it not fellas, an analogy can be logically coherent and still be silly when the two things being compared are so drastically different. But to play the BBI game, no YAJ, I do not find it OK that Paterno looked the other way, but, from a moral standpoint, I do find it OK that the OSU band director did (though other posters have brought up very reasonable points about the liability angle).
You're just part of that twisted OSU marching band cult mentality.
History
Panty raids were the first college craze after World War II, following the 1930s crazes of goldfish swallowing or seeing how many could fit in a phone booth.[1] The mock battles which ensued between male and female students echoed the riotous battles between freshmen and upperclassmen which were an annual ritual at many colleges in the 20th century.
The first documented incident occurred on February 25, 1948, at Augustana College in Rock Island, Illinois. Around 260 men led by the Omicron Sigma Omicron fraternity entered the Woman's Building (now Emmy Carlsson Evald Hall, a classroom building); the first party entered through heating tunnels beneath the building. Once inside, they unlocked the door for the remaining raiders to enter, locked the housemother in her apartment, and cut the light and phone lines. Although a few women reported missing undergarments, the goal was to cause commotion. The police arrived, and although no pranksters were charged, the news traveled, making headlines in the Chicago Tribune, Stars and Stripes, Time magazine, and the New York Times.[2][3][4]
The next incident was on March 21, 1952, when University of Michigan students raided a dormitory, which sparked panty raids across the nation.[5] Penn State's first raid involved 2,000 males marching on the women's dorms on April 8, 1952, cheered on by the women, who opened doors and windows and tossed out lingerie.[6] By the end of 1952 spring term the "epidemic" had spread to 52 campuses.
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Right, and that's not what it says either. You conveniently left out the "might otherwise be taken for" part.
I feel like whenever I quote you I should use (sic) just to be safe.
that's actually a very common typo, right behind "it's" instead of "its." happens all the time. in fact, my iPhone auto-corrects to "look the other way" when i write "turn the other cheek" because it's so common.
I feel like whenever I quote you I should use (sic) just to be safe.
wow, you're not actually this dumb, are you? in your case, maybe.
"might otherwise be taken for an error in transcription" = somebody mistyped something so you are correcting them.
YAJ didn't mistype anything. he used a phrase incorrectly. that's not what sic is for. it's not a matter of opinion. is this getting past your concrete skull yet, or do you need me to keep schooling you?
I have no idea how sic is used because I never used it. Probably never will. But it seems like you should have went for the solid double instead of swinging for a home run.
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Right, and that's not what it says either. You conveniently left out the "might otherwise be taken for" part.
I feel like whenever I quote you I should use (sic) just to be safe.
wow, you're not actually this dumb, are you? in your case, maybe.
"might otherwise be taken for an error in transcription" = somebody mistyped something so you are correcting them.
YAJ didn't mistype anything. he used a phrase incorrectly. that's not what sic is for. it's not a matter of opinion. is this getting past your concrete skull yet, or do you need me to keep schooling you?
I used sic to indicate that I knew what I was paraphrasing was incorrect. That is textbook sic.
so, to answer my question from before, yes, you are this dumb. thanks.
but i'm sure you knew that already.
chris r then fucked up when trying to correct you or YAJ (or both of you).
the difference is, adults can admit when they made a mistake, children can't.
and for those of you who are wondering why i'm making a big deal of this, or are just clueless in general (AGF), chris r follows me around from thread to thread pointing out that i don't capitalize words properly.
so, to answer my question from before, yes, you are this dumb. thanks.
Certainly you can't be this obtuse by accident.
From what I've already quoted: "or other matter that might otherwise be taken as an error of transcription."
And you are correct about brackets vs parentheses. Its kind of like scoring a TD down 44 - 0 at the two minute warning.
how many fucking times were you dropped on your head as a child?
If only they gave black belts for back tracking.
one of these days you'll be all grown up and you can have a debate all by yourself.
Plus, I'm not even having the same argument as chris r. I don't give two shits how sic is used. It's the fact that you came on this thread swinging your dick around and completely whiffed. But this is just me addressing another one of your posts where you're dodging and/or backtracking the topic at hand that you started.
If you have a problem with people replying to posts on a public forum, you're free to leave.
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one of us makes a conscious decision not to capitalize because he's not being graded on his BBI posts, and the other of us doesn't know what "sic" is used for in modern English, but just throws it into a sentence anyway in an attempt to look smart.
fair point.
It surely does reflect better on you that you are too lazy to capitalize and that I may have slightly misused sic. Kudos.
But I'm actually not willing to concede that I've misused sic that easily. It is used to denote that an error is being reproduced from the original. Kindly point out how I've misused it.
Or if you'd rather, we could meet and throw down about it.
Nerd fight!
catch you on the next thread where you jump in late to pile on even though you added nothing of substance yourself. or, to put it more concisely, any thread you post on.
how many fucking times were you dropped on your head as a child?
For the millionth time, its not about an error in transcription, its about what could be perceived as an error in transcription.
Its not a very subtle distinction. You can do it.
Its not a very subtle distinction. You can do it.
explain to me how typing an entire four-word phrase can be perceived as an error in transcription.
this should be good.
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yes, now that you've looked it up, i see you now understand that it is used to correct an error - in most cases a spelling error, but i won't nitpick.
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turning the other cheek (sic: looking the other way)
is not an example of you having corrected an error?
But wait...change of heart once told that there was an error?
M in CT : 11:56 am : link : reply
sic is used for spelling errors and errors in logical progression. not to correct misused idioms.
Tool.
M in CT : 12:53 pm : link : reply
then you are just as dumb as chris r and thus, not worth any more of my time this afternoon.
I love this because:
1) You've committed a grotesque amount of time to this argument (one in which you are wrong).
2) It implies that this would be worth your time if AnotherGiantsFan "wasn't as dumb as Chris," ...and yet, if Chris is so dumb, why has he gotten so much of your precious time? Do you like him more than AnotherGiantsFan? Why is a dumb Chris worth your time but a dumb AnotherGiantsFan isn't?
man, it is going to be rough to get through the rest of this day.
This has been going on long before American Pie
man, it is going to be rough to get through the rest of this day.
No. You are incontrovertibly wrong according to reason and have been throughout most your multi-handled posting history.
man, it is going to be rough to get through the rest of this day.
lmao, and apparently AnotherGiantsFan too.'
Why is it going to be rough getting through your day? And I'm still waiting for an explanation on why Chris R's futility is something you're OK delving into, but AnotherGiantsFans "you don't have time for.
don't worry, just send out another singing telegram next Valentine's Day. those always work out well.
don't worry, just send out another singing telegram next Valentine's Day. those always work out well.
lol, noted buddy. Good work on this thread.
Totally unexpected, wonderful surprise. Thanks all.
lmao
She goes on to say the name was not shameful or sexist, but a preferred name. Now, she says she feels objectified and sexualized from the way the university and media handled the situation. "And despite being mentioned several times in this report, not once was an attempt made by any on the investigating team to contact me and find out if anything that was being written about me was accurate," the woman said.
The woman adds, Waters never referred to her as her nickname, only her first name.
As the pilot flew the banner over the event, the crowd clapped. ABC 6/FOX 28 talked to band members parents in the crowd. Scott Mills says this year will mark his son's third year in the band. "I thought it was great. Wed saw everybody pointing and we looked up there and it was like. Jon's a great guy and the kids are devastated," Mills said.
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He's like a carbon copy.
Color me un-surprised that young adults with (most likely) little real world experience outside of institutionalized education systems haven't yet developed a complete sense of the gravity of these situations.
We certainly have examples of just that thing here on this website.
Metlz -- I'm pretty sure he denies it, but I do believe that is the prevailing hypothesis.