But if they covered most of his contract then it would be alright to have him as a backup 1B/DH against righties/power pinch hitter. Assuming they wouldn't expect some good prospect for him.
now how about fixing the problem that exists in right field. Ichiro is done. So they run Kelly Johnson out there only to blow out his groin and all the while they have this kid Refsnyder tearing it up at triple A and was a natural right fielder to begin with until they decided to turn him into a second baseman. I don't think he has forgotten how to play the outfield.
This reluctance is all in the name of Carlos Beltran. Now that he can't throw he can't play right field. So all that is left is for him to clog up the DH. As a result he's clogging up right field also because the Yankees don't want to make a deal in the event he is able to throw again and hopefully put him back in right field.
Meanwhile Marlon Bird, who has more homers then Gardner Ellsbury and Ichiro combined, is sitting there in Philly ripe for the picking. And, Refsnyder rots at triple A as Ichiro who never gets a hit with runners in scoring position and Beltran continues to hit weak ground balls. Makes sense.
Over the long haul, his bat plays a helluva lot better at second than as a corner outfielder. Developing a long term starter at second is more important than trying to salvage a season that's basically moot already.
Over the long haul, his bat plays a helluva lot better at second than as a corner outfielder. Developing a long term starter at second is more important than trying to salvage a season that's basically moot already.
3 games out with 60 to play and the season is basically moot??!!
But they're not a real contender. Consider the past series against Texas:
facing Miles Mikolas, who came in with an ERA over 10 and a WHIP approaching 2: 4 hits and 2 runs in 7.1 innings
facing Nick Martinez and his 5.10 ERA: 3 hits and no runs in 5.1
They actually managed to beat Darvish thanks to Phelps and a timely storm.
facing Colby Lewis, who has given up 139 hits in 95 innings and sports a 6.23 ERA: Four hits and three runs in 6.1.
This simply is not a good team. If they keep winning and make the playoffs, great, but dicking around with Refsnyder's development in an effort to make the playoffs with this sad-sack roster would be foolish. If you want Refsnyder on the team, bring him up to replace Roberts or don't bring him up at all. He needs all the reps at second he can get.
I understand that last year was flukey as fuck... Â
but the run the Sox had should emphasize very clearly that once you get in absolutely anything can happen. Soria will probably turn into Joe Nathan Part II once he gets to Detroit because that's what happens to good relief pitchers who put on a Tigers uniform. Sonny Gray and Samardzija are better than anything we have (unless Tanaka comes back) but they're hardly invincible, and the Angels and Mariners have their own flaws. There is no juggernaut in the AL this year.
The other way to look at it is how well our pitching has performed. Even with 4/5 of the rotation on the DL, our pitching is what will keep us in the hunt. One more decent bat could make a big difference, too. I hope they stay away from Howard, which is almost crazy to say until you realize the Howard of the last few years (since he ruptured his achilles) is not the monster and perennial MVP candidate he was for several years. That said, with or without Tex on the DL, I think we need a 1B bat.
How is this season moot? They may not be a great team. But, they are right in the thick of the division and WC standings. It would not be crazy at all to see them atop the division. As Dunedin pointed out, there really is no juggernaut in the AL. Anything is possible. Plus, if Tanaka does come back, that really strengthens our chances.
Apparently the Yanks are taking it slow with Refsnyder Â
Whole lot of "ifs" regarding the pitching......if Kuroda doesn't fall apart late in the season yet again, if the good Whitley shows up more often than the awful Whitley, if Greene can keep pitching well, if Pineda or Tanaka can come back and pitch effectively, if Betances doesn't get worn down.
Possible? Sure, but I can't say I'm particularly optimistic. The pitching has looked good lately but they've been facing the Reds without Votto and the appallingly bad Rangers.
RE: Apparently the Yanks are taking it slow with Refsnyder Â
he should be up here already. He'll almost definitely be up here in September when the rosters expand
In a way they're taking it slow with Refsnyder, but this is just his second full season in the minors and he is knocking on the door so in that sense they're actually being pretty aggressive. No guarantee on the roster expansion though because of the 40-man considerations.
Killed the McCarthy move, what do you say now about that move, what I see is a guy who throws a 92-94 MPH sinker, with a decent fastball and a slider he got away from against his wishes, he is now using it the way he wanted bbut was not allowed in Arizona, and he is working with a GREAT catcher now in McCann, want to know how this pitching is doing so well, MCCann, for all his criticism from the know nothings, he is the reason. Capuano is another pitcher that could help, he is a lefty in Yankee Stadium, if he gets hot, he can actually help, if he struggles, maybe the pen, or nothing at all you gave up shit, so big deal,
any young player that does not need protecting is the Yankees are working with a 36 man offseason roster with 5 catchers! The Yankees can't count on any of Tanaka, CC, Nova an Arod going into next year but they all take off season roster spots.
Is learning second base, next season, if Tex can stay healthy, I think the Yanks will add Cabrera, and with Headly getting a new chance, we may actually have a decent infield, I just hope they give the kid a shot, he deserves a shot, then go get a rightfielder, continue to rebuild the pitching staff, and the team looks decent.
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Roster moves: Sign LHP Chris Capuano to a Major League contract and select him to 25-man roster (acq. Thurs. from COL); DFA RHP Chris Leroux
You say Refsnyders bat plays better at second base. That's for next year. What about ichiro's bat. It plays better on the bench. The day of power at a particular position doesn't hold the same significance as it did in years gone by. Middle infielders back in the day were not considered power positions. Those days are gone.
Just think of the experience Refsnyder will get for next year getting to know some of the pitchers for the balance of the season. He'll have the whole winter to work on second base and then in the spring. The Yankees need some young blood ready to make their mark. What have they got to lose. Ichiro gives them nothing at all.
argue this has been one of Cashman's best seasons as GM considering what he had to work with. He's done a great job identifying cheap "solid" additions.
have been on lockdown with Betances and Robertson. Ellsbury has been really good both offensively and defensively. Gardner has been really good as well.
I would strongly agree with that since the season has started. However letting Cano get away and the money they spent on McCann and Beltran in the off season have proven to be bad moves. But sometimes you take a chance and it doesn't work out. It's how you rebound and what you do to fix the mess. And to your point no doubt Cashman has really done his best Billy Beane. Now he needs another bat and right field is what he needs to repair next.
If you don't think the Yankees if they really wanted to sweeten the pot for less then ten years to keep him in the Bronx then your out of your mind. His production and his bat in the lineup alone trumps by more then two fold the danger McCann and Beltran present. The money they burned on Beltran alone could have gone to Cano. And if you don't think as he ages he couldn't effectively transition to the DH with his natural abilities as a hitter then I don't know what to tell you.
So you're writing off Cano after two years. He won't have anything left in the tank. Seems to me Albert Pujols who everyone was ready to write off after the last two years is Albert Pujols again. And Big Papi just keeps on keeping on. Why not Cano.
Look, I think ten year contracts are insane myself. But right now Cano is one of the best players in the game. And I would have been on favor of eight years for similar money for one of the best talents the Yankees have ever had come through their system in fourty years. They gave Jeter the money to extend him when a lot of people wondered what will the do when his original contract ended. With the exception of the injury that shelved him last year he's held up pretty well.
I don't see the Yankees pushing Roberts aside to bring Refsnyder up. The Yankees really need a RF and Zoilo Almonte has been hot and has 15 HRs. He is also already on the 40 man roster. Everything will change if the Yankees fall out of contention, but right now I don't see them bringing Refsnyder up to play RF...especially since they have put in so much work to make him a 2B.
has pretty much stunk, as has Beltran but on paper outside of overpaying McCann by a year or so vs. what most expected I think both of those moves were moves most teams would be happy with on paper. I can't knock Cashman for letting Cano go because the years are insane. If Cano somehow is "good to very good" through the majority of the contract then bravo to him/the Mariners gambling on the right guy but the odds of that are very low.
If you want to rip the Yankees over Cano, I'd argue not aggressively trying to lock up Cano 3-4 years ago (regardless of some team policy) would be the place to look. I actually think Cashman is an above average GM. I think he's both overrated by his "rings" and underrated by those who think it's all about payroll. He has a pretty strong eye for major league talent. GM's have very little to do with the draft/IFA so I won't give him credit/ding him there.
He is a decent judge of major league talent, but some of his big ticket signings (most of them, in fact) have been underwhelming. He also doesn't bring kids up to stay very often, which may be him or may be Girardi. He has been there long enough that a shakeup might be appropriate, my big concern is that a replacement would be a puppet for the Steinbrothers, whom I don't trust to competently run a baseball team.
Problem is that he generally tires quickly, so you need a strong pen
Howard is a washed up power hitter. He can't hit for any kind of average, especially against lefties.
This reluctance is all in the name of Carlos Beltran. Now that he can't throw he can't play right field. So all that is left is for him to clog up the DH. As a result he's clogging up right field also because the Yankees don't want to make a deal in the event he is able to throw again and hopefully put him back in right field.
Meanwhile Marlon Bird, who has more homers then Gardner Ellsbury and Ichiro combined, is sitting there in Philly ripe for the picking. And, Refsnyder rots at triple A as Ichiro who never gets a hit with runners in scoring position and Beltran continues to hit weak ground balls. Makes sense.
3 games out with 60 to play and the season is basically moot??!!
Um, okay.....
facing Miles Mikolas, who came in with an ERA over 10 and a WHIP approaching 2: 4 hits and 2 runs in 7.1 innings
facing Nick Martinez and his 5.10 ERA: 3 hits and no runs in 5.1
They actually managed to beat Darvish thanks to Phelps and a timely storm.
facing Colby Lewis, who has given up 139 hits in 95 innings and sports a 6.23 ERA: Four hits and three runs in 6.1.
This simply is not a good team. If they keep winning and make the playoffs, great, but dicking around with Refsnyder's development in an effort to make the playoffs with this sad-sack roster would be foolish. If you want Refsnyder on the team, bring him up to replace Roberts or don't bring him up at all. He needs all the reps at second he can get.
Possible? Sure, but I can't say I'm particularly optimistic. The pitching has looked good lately but they've been facing the Reds without Votto and the appallingly bad Rangers.
In a way they're taking it slow with Refsnyder, but this is just his second full season in the minors and he is knocking on the door so in that sense they're actually being pretty aggressive. No guarantee on the roster expansion though because of the 40-man considerations.
Roster moves: Sign LHP Chris Capuano to a Major League contract and select him to 25-man roster (acq. Thurs. from COL); DFA RHP Chris Leroux
Just think of the experience Refsnyder will get for next year getting to know some of the pitchers for the balance of the season. He'll have the whole winter to work on second base and then in the spring. The Yankees need some young blood ready to make their mark. What have they got to lose. Ichiro gives them nothing at all.
Will you guys make up your minds? When he acquires big name guys, he gets criticized. When he acquires cheap, no risk guys, he gets criticized
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Cashman is pretty good at it.
Will you guys make up your minds? When he acquires big name guys, he gets criticized. When he acquires cheap, no risk guys, he gets criticized
I was actually complimenting him. He is good at it, I think.
Look, I think ten year contracts are insane myself. But right now Cano is one of the best players in the game. And I would have been on favor of eight years for similar money for one of the best talents the Yankees have ever had come through their system in fourty years. They gave Jeter the money to extend him when a lot of people wondered what will the do when his original contract ended. With the exception of the injury that shelved him last year he's held up pretty well.
This.
If you want to rip the Yankees over Cano, I'd argue not aggressively trying to lock up Cano 3-4 years ago (regardless of some team policy) would be the place to look. I actually think Cashman is an above average GM. I think he's both overrated by his "rings" and underrated by those who think it's all about payroll. He has a pretty strong eye for major league talent. GM's have very little to do with the draft/IFA so I won't give him credit/ding him there.
I don't trust them to competently run a candy store.