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Peter King MMQB report after visiting the Giants

Defenderdawg : 7/24/2014 9:44 pm
"But this one thing will stick with me when I think back on my day with the Giants: Tom Coughlin was really in a good mood during my 15 minutes with him. I dont think Coughlins in a good mood if he feels like theres a black cloud over East Rutherford."
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I think that was a pretty fairly written  
BigBlueBuff : 7/24/2014 10:05 pm : link
article from Peter King. It is nothing original that we haven't hashed and re-hashed over and over again throughout this offseason, but at least it was thoughtful and mostly on target with what the consensus who follow the team closely believes. I can live with that.
Nothing new  
endwerc : 7/24/2014 10:17 pm : link
but no talk of lattes so I guess that's a plus.
Um...what the hell is he talking about here?  
Cam in MO : 7/24/2014 10:17 pm : link
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Giants starting running backs who dont fumble always have the potential to run it 300 times in a season.


The last Giants running back to have 300 carries in a season was Tiki Barber in 2006 with 327.



King really should do some research  
oipolloi : 7/24/2014 10:33 pm : link
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Tom Coughlin told McAdoo when he took the job that he wanted a powerful, dominant running game. When the Giants have had that, theyve played football in January.



Except for 2011 when they were ranked 29th in rushing and won the Super Bowl. But, heck, why let the facts get in the way of a good cliche
sorry, my mistake  
oipolloi : 7/24/2014 10:38 pm : link
the Giants were dead last in rushing in 2011 and still won the SB

IIRC, Green Bay was either last or second to last in rushing the year before and won the SB
It also seems King is getting his details from other reporters.  
Tom in NY : 7/24/2014 10:53 pm : link
He surmises that Richburg will be a starter at Center or Right Guard. At no point has Richburg been mentioned as the starter for either by the team. Walton is the starter at Center, and Mosely & Jerry are competing for the RG spot...Richburg is learning the position for depth.

National media guy flys/drives into town, gets cursory information, and flies/drives out.
oipollio  
Jim in Tampa : 7/25/2014 1:31 am : link
His statement about the running game is actually true if you read it again.

I don't think he meant that they only played in January if they had a good running game and stayed home if they didn't. I think he simply implied that when they did have a good running game, they almost always made the playoffs.
They had the sixth best rushing attack in 2010 and missed the playoffs  
Riggies : 7/25/2014 1:54 am : link
They were above average rushing teams in 2009 and 2012 and missed the playoffs those seasons too. Then they had an awful rushing attack in 2013 and missed the playoffs yet again.

Frankly, they just flat out miss the playoffs these days, regardless of what is going on in the run game (the only exception being a season where they had a putrid rushing attack, in 2011). King was just grabbing at a time old narrative, like he always does, regardless of actual accuracy.
Pete King just visits camps and sips lattes.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/25/2014 1:58 am : link
It's basically vacation. Haven't seen much insight from him in a while. Sweet gig he's got though.
RE: Nothing new  
Moondwg : 7/25/2014 2:58 am : link
In comment 11780778 endwerc said:
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but no talk of lattes so I guess that's a plus.


No sweet tidbits on North Jersey High School softball either.
Oh man, no lattes?  
InTikiITrust : 7/25/2014 8:23 am : link
That's a bummer. I always am so intrigued on what coffee and beer Pete had, as well as what hotel he stayed at.
Riggies  
Jim in Tampa : 7/25/2014 8:25 am : link
King said that the Giants played in January when they had a "dominant" running game. Above average certainly isn't dominant and I don't think anyone has ever described the 6th best at anything as dominant either.
This has to be the dumbest analysis I have ever seen  
Essex : 7/25/2014 8:41 am : link
"But this one thing will stick with me when I think back on my day with the Giants: Tom Coughlin was really in a good mood during my 15 minutes with him. I dont think Coughlins in a good mood if he feels like theres a black cloud over East Rutherford."


Typical Peter King column  
eclipz928 : 7/25/2014 9:43 am : link
very wordy - no substance. I don't think even someone who doesn't follow the Giants would get much out of this outside of his checklist of notable free agents they signed.

Oh, and how about this "bold" prediction: 
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THAT I MAY REGRET BY NOVEMBER

Ben McAdoo is going to fix Eli Manning, and Manning will be a top-12 quarterback by Thanksgiving.


Wow, TOP 12?!? Peter really going out on the limb on that one...
What's dominant then if not 6th? Top 3 in the NFL? Best in the NFL?  
Riggies : 7/25/2014 10:00 am : link
The Giants have only had that one time during the Coughlin era (2008).

They made the playoffs though that year, so I guess King's point is totally worthwhile and offers great insight... even though that year was now 7 seasons ago.
RE: Typical Peter King column  
Mad Mike : 7/25/2014 10:03 am : link
In comment 11781014 eclipz928 said:
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Wow, TOP 12?!? Peter really going out on the limb on that one...

Seriously. If he can't break that hurdle, we're in big big trouble.
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SanFranGiantsFan : 7/25/2014 10:05 am : link
Where's Pete's 'Here's what brew I tasted this week & my thoughts on it' anecdote?
We get much better analysis  
BillT : 7/25/2014 10:31 am : link
From the posters here than King gives. But he's not writing for us he's writing for people in Atlanta, Denver, etc.
Also missing  
Moondwg : 7/25/2014 11:25 am : link
are gratuitous remarks about his personal conversations/text messages/calls with this or that player.
The Giants provided Pete with some non-melted Kit Kats  
Greg from LI : 7/25/2014 11:30 am : link
So he'd write a positive view of them. Then everyone went to Toone P. Wiggins for lunch.
King  
PaulN : 7/25/2014 11:51 am : link
Came in cold and did little research and wrote an article, he is a good writer and tried, with his last statement, to pull a positive from his visit, the article did not bother me like some of you stiklers, it was fine, he did get some detail wrong, and some predictions wrong, but big deal, its fucking July. Give me anything certain with the Giants for this upcoming season.
King...  
Jimmy Googs : 7/25/2014 12:26 pm : link
I generally like King and his column, especially since it is usually 4 or 5 pages on Mondays during the season and makes for a good reading on the can.

He does tend to be a little too much in love with both the Patriots and Ravens for my taste, but nevertheless he typically calls the Giants for what they are.
Holy shit, is this accurate?  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/25/2014 12:29 pm : link
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Right tackle Justin Pugh, who has been here for 15 months and is the second-longest tenured lineman with the Giants
RE: Holy shit, is this accurate?  
Greg from LI : 7/25/2014 12:31 pm : link
In comment 11781337 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Right tackle Justin Pugh, who has been here for 15 months and is the second-longest tenured lineman with the Giants



No, since Brewer's been a Giant since 2011 and Mosley since 2012.
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