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NFT: Economist: The kids are... kind of alright, actually

Kyle : 7/25/2014 9:25 am
Long article discussing the habits of today's youth: less drinking, less drug use, less sex, less teen pregnancy, less STDs.

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In America, the proportion of high-school students reporting “binge-drinking”—more than five drinks in a single session—has fallen by a third since the late 1990s. Cigarette smoking among the young has become so uncommon that more teenagers—some 23% of 17- to 18-year-olds—smoke cannabis than tobacco. Over the past ten years pot-smoking has increased, a bit, among these older teens; but even though now legal in some states (see page 35) its prevalence is still far lower than in the 1970s, when Barack Obama was a member of his high-school “choom gang”. Use of other recreational drugs has fallen sharply. Dr Wilson Compton, the deputy director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, says that perhaps the most worrying trend in young Americans’ drug habits is the increasing abuse of attention-focusing pills such as Ritalin by students keen to improve their performance.

Teenage kicks of other sorts also appear to be on the decline. “Teens are waiting longer to have sex than they did,” according to a report on young Americans from the Guttmacher Institute, a think-tank. America’s teenage pregnancy rate is half what it was two decades ago (see chart 3). Britain has experienced a lesser decline. Most mainland European countries never saw the high rates of teenage pregnancy that America and Britain saw in the 1980s and 1990s, but they too have fewer expectant youngsters than they did.

Teenagers appear not just to be waiting longer for sex, but also by-and-large to be being careful about what they get up to once they get started. According to data from the European Centre for Disease Monitoring and Control, across the European Union (EU) they are the only age group to be diagnosed with fewer sexually transmitted diseases in recent years.


One reason floated, which would suggest this will carry on for the future, is the age of their beings older than any generation past:

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By the late 1980s that generation was giving way to a new group of parents who waited longer to have children and paid more attention when they did. In the 1970s the average American mother had her first child at the age of just 22. That has since increased to around 26. Today’s young adults were thus raised by a generation of parents who had fewer children later in life, and took the process more seriously.

“There’s been a huge increase in social pressure to be a good parent,” says Frances Gardner, an academic at the University of Oxford who studies parenting. She points to “Supernanny”, a television programme about parenting, and to the “helicopter parent” phenomenon as evidence of how attitudes towards children have changed.

For much of the 20th century, children were largely ignored and allowed to roam free. If they acted up, they were typically punished with violence. Now, however, parents are expected to be intimately involved in their children’s lives, says Ms Gardner. They supervise homework; attend parents’ evenings; go to prenatal and parenting classes; read blockbusters about child psychology. These improvements are not restricted to parents working as a team: single parenting has improved even more. A British survey shows that in 1994 almost 70% of lone parents did not know where their children were after 9pm—roughly double the rate of nuclear families. By 2005 the rates had almost converged.

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Young people tend to take their habits with them as they age, so as this generation grows up, problems in the past thought irreparable—crime, addiction, family breakdown—may diminish further.


In before anecdotes of people under 20 or under 30 that posters know being jerks or Teen Mom being a TV show therefore invalidating article.
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Damn right.  
BrettNYG10 : 7/25/2014 9:27 am : link
And we didn't get this country trillions of dollars in debt.

Fuck old people.

*High-fives Kyle and other under 30 bros*
*age of their parents  
Kyle : 7/25/2014 9:27 am : link
Several reasons offered, but that struck me as the most interesting.
interesting  
M in CT : 7/25/2014 9:32 am : link
but i'm very skeptical as to how they collect data on teenage drinking, cigarette smoking and drug use. if it's limited to observation by school officials (assuming kids wouldn't be honest about it if polled), then it's going to be highly inaccurate.
We're awesome  
AnotherGiantsFan : 7/25/2014 9:35 am : link
Knee jerk reaction to the sex-pregnancy thing would be a higher usage of condoms and birth control. Not necessarily waiting.

We're still getting super laid.
too bad they're such a bunch of pussies  
Greg from LI : 7/25/2014 9:36 am : link
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There are still pretty substantial challenges though...  
Dunedin81 : 7/25/2014 9:37 am : link
first and foremost "middle class parents" are and have long been the source of only a fraction of crime, drug use and related social ills. So helicopter parenting may be the salvation of suburbia (or it may not be) but that doesn't mean that the long run challenges for the urban and rural poor are going to be going away for the same reasons anytime soon.

Second, the mushrooming of heroin use over the last few years may upset a lot of these trends. Where even a few years ago kids were screwing around with pills, now it's heroin and the ability to be a recreational drug user is consequently limited.
RE: too bad they're such a bunch of pussies  
jcn56 : 7/25/2014 9:47 am : link
In comment 11781003 Greg from LI said:
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And lame. No booze, no unprotected sex - no wonder they're all sitting on fucking Instagram liking each other all day.
RE: Damn right.  
buford : 7/25/2014 9:49 am : link
In comment 11780987 BrettNYG10 said:
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And we didn't get this country trillions of dollars in debt.

Fuck old people.

*High-fives Kyle and other under 30 bros*


The worse thing old people did is have bratty kids like you.
Generation X, baby  
M in CT : 7/25/2014 9:54 am : link
we're not old enough to have had any major responsibility for the country going to shit and we're not young enough to have been pussified.

eat your hearts out.
RE: too bad they're such a bunch of pussies  
BrettNYG10 : 7/25/2014 9:58 am : link
In comment 11781003 Greg from LI said:
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That's very hurtful, Greg.
Greatest Generation my ass...  
Dunedin81 : 7/25/2014 10:03 am : link
they raised the Baby Boomers.
We Xers had far better music, too  
Greg from LI : 7/25/2014 10:08 am : link
So fuck you kids
RE: We're awesome  
oipolloi : 7/25/2014 10:09 am : link
In comment 11781000 AnotherGiantsFan said:
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Knee jerk reaction to the sex-pregnancy thing would be a higher usage of condoms and birth control. Not necessarily waiting.

We're still getting super laid.


actually, you are not. I mean you might personally be getting laid but not people under 25 as a group. Probably because more people text-date and also the crack down on college campuses against drinking and partying, taking away hook-up opportunities.
Increasing AIDS awareness did, I think,  
Enoch : 7/25/2014 10:24 am : link
generally dim the sluttiness of the generation that came of age in the '90s. (It was around earlier than that, of course, but wasn't widely understood as something that straight folks had to worry about.) The threat of a terminal disease gave a bit more punch to those middle-school sex-ed classes.
Actually a fun fact.  
kickerpa16 : 7/25/2014 11:00 am : link
Studies have found that when you know your HIV infection can be treated with modern antiretrovirals drugs people engage in riskier sexual behavior.

So that pendulum which initially swung towards decreased sexual risk preferences because the fear of HIV infection has actually diminished. people are now starting to engage in much riskier sexual behavior that can lead to HIV infection.
Yeah the new drugs  
Overseer : 7/25/2014 11:05 am : link
have really re-invigorated the highway rest stop bathroom scene. Uh, I mean so I've heard.

(Cam Neely's a real giver).
less drinking, less drug use, less sex, less teen pregnancy, less STD  
Motley Blue : 7/25/2014 11:20 am : link

Gee why is that?


Oh yeah, less money.
RE: less drinking, less drug use, less sex, less teen pregnancy, less STD  
Dunedin81 : 7/25/2014 11:21 am : link
In comment 11781222 Motley Blue said:
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Gee why is that?


Oh yeah, less money.


Killjoy
Wait, high school students don't binge drink or get pregnant as often  
Kyle : 7/25/2014 11:26 am : link
because they're poorer now?

My brain hurts, someone help.
Hobbies are expensive.  
Motley Blue : 7/25/2014 11:27 am : link
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Clearly, they excluded  
YAJ2112 : 7/25/2014 11:30 am : link
the Ohio State band from this study.
they don't have time for drinking, smoking and screwing  
santacruzom : 7/25/2014 11:51 am : link
with all the texting and Facebooking and bullying they're doing.
Kind of misleading...  
ConMan22 : 7/25/2014 12:01 pm : link
This generation may be drinking less, but only because they've pioneered creative ways to cut out the middle man (liver) and get that sauce right into the bloodstream.

Call me old fashioned but I think drinking - and the social interactions that come along with it - is healthier than a vodka soaked tampon up the ass and an internet addiction.
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Butt chugging gave us the greatest press conference of all time  
Greg from LI : 7/25/2014 12:06 pm : link
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I have a good feeling about the younger generation  
phil in arizona : 7/25/2014 12:48 pm : link
I think they work hard. Good schools are getting harder and harder to get into. I think that pushes them. Prices of everything are way up. Most kids now work an after school job. Who has time to get into trouble if you go to school full time, have a part time job, and do extracurricular activities?

Studies have shown that Millennials are more open minded, conflict adverse, and accepting of technology. These are all good traits.
Are they having as much fun?  
WideRight : 7/25/2014 12:49 pm : link
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RE: I have a good feeling about the younger generation  
Dunedin81 : 7/25/2014 12:51 pm : link
In comment 11781372 phil in arizona said:
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I think they work hard. Good schools are getting harder and harder to get into. I think that pushes them. Prices of everything are way up. Most kids now work an after school job. Who has time to get into trouble if you go to school full time, have a part time job, and do extracurricular activities?

Studies have shown that Millennials are more open minded, conflict adverse, and accepting of technology. These are all good traits.


Who says "most kids now work an after school job"? Maybe that's the case but I thought it was actually the opposite, that such jobs were becoming less frequent rather than more.
Actually,  
phil in arizona : 7/25/2014 1:00 pm : link
it looks like statistics say I'm wrong and that high school work less than in the 90's.

How the hell do they pay for $3.50 gas?
RE: Actually,  
GIANTSr01 : 7/25/2014 1:02 pm : link
In comment 11781397 phil in arizona said:
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it looks like statistics say I'm wrong and that high school work less than in the 90's.

How the hell do they pay for $3.50 gas?


They can't. That's why they aren't out boozing and getting laid!
I don't know how they can afford a data package either  
Dunedin81 : 7/25/2014 1:07 pm : link
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Sure miss the days when you noticed gas was getting expensive  
Greg from LI : 7/25/2014 1:10 pm : link
When it cracked $1 per gallon.

The one that really sucked was when smokes started skyrocketing. Went from like $1.75 a pack to close to three bucks almost overnight, it seemed.
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