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NGT: Didn't take long, Browns alarmed by Manziel's behavior

Defenderdawg : 7/25/2014 2:04 pm
"Browns 'alarmed' by some of Johnny Manziel's behavior, concerned it's set him back in QB competition, sources say..."
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they're just haters who wish they could have as much fun as him  
chris r : 7/25/2014 2:06 pm : link
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Shockeyisthebest80 : 7/25/2014 2:08 pm : link
Sources said Manziel looked sharp on his first day of practice Thursday and had a good grasp of the plays being run, a sign that he's had his nose in the playbook.
Huge risk  
mrvax : 7/25/2014 2:08 pm : link
I'm going to feel very bad for the Cleveland fans if this guy shits the bed. They need this kid to stop the BS and grow up right now.
My sources have told me that he's really impressed so far in camp,  
Cam in MO : 7/25/2014 2:09 pm : link
and that he will easily win the starting position if he keeps it up. Said the Browns were especially impressed with his grasp of the playbook.


Well, after all that harrumphing.....  
Greg from LI : 7/25/2014 2:11 pm : link
All the teeth-gnashing about a bunch of stuff that's already been reported, there's this conclusion to the article:

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Sources said Manziel looked sharp on his first day of practice Thursday and had a good grasp of the plays being run, a sign that he's had his nose in the playbook.
"People will see how hard Johnny works once this thing gets rolling,'' said a source. "He'll get more mature as he goes along. He's 21 and people want him to be 35. I would not count him out.''
This  
Vin R : 7/25/2014 2:13 pm : link
"He's 21 and people want him to be 35."
how come we didn't hear this about Luck  
chris r : 7/25/2014 2:16 pm : link
or other young QBs coming into the league young?

Is it just that people want Manziel to act 35 more than they wanted the other QBs to act that age? That seems arbitrary.
To be fair, NFL network from yesterday  
Defenderdawg : 7/25/2014 2:16 pm : link
Just ran into Nate Burleson. Been practicing w/ rookies. Asked him if Manziel's learned playbook. Said, "He didn't make any mistakes today."
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Randy in CT : 7/25/2014 2:17 pm : link
In comment 11781513 Vin R said:
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"He's 21 and people want him to be 35."
Well, yeah, and to not be snorting coke.
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arcarsenal : 7/25/2014 2:18 pm : link
I want this guy to light the league on fire so bad so that all of these holier-than-thou shitheads who act like they were never 21 years old before can kindly clamp it.
May as well ring the dinner bell for Randy and me...  
BurberryManning : 7/25/2014 2:18 pm : link
Manziel will party in his down time, the media will publicize when he does so, and he will handle the responsibilities of his profession when it is appropriate. As he has always done. I'd wager that nearly every other younger NFL athlete will do the same albeit without the fanfare that leads us to read about their exploits.

Prior to his sophomore season at A&M there was talk that his "persona" would detract from his performance and create a wedge between him and the team. He responded by coming into camp better than ever and impressing his teammates and coaching staff to a shocking extent. To date, it seems as if he has done the same in Cleveland.

The sooner football fanatics realize that professional athletes, much like ourselves, have lives outside of football that they can effectively balance while remaining at the pinnacle of their profession the better.
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Vin R : 7/25/2014 2:20 pm : link
In comment 11781521 arcarsenal said:
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I want this guy to light the league on fire so bad so that all of these holier-than-thou shitheads who act like they were never 21 years old before can kindly clamp it.


Arc for the win!
I don't understand how anybody can snort coke  
aquidneck : 7/25/2014 2:20 pm : link
The carbonation hurts my nose.
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Vin R : 7/25/2014 2:20 pm : link
In comment 11781519 Randy in CT said:
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In comment 11781513 Vin R said:


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"He's 21 and people want him to be 35."

Well, yeah, and to not be snorting coke.


He's just having fun! lol
RE: how come we didn't hear this about Luck  
Greg from LI : 7/25/2014 2:21 pm : link
In comment 11781517 chris r said:
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or other young QBs coming into the league young?


Some young guys are quieter and more serious than others. Film at 11.

Ken Stabler frequently joked about reading his playbook by the light of a jukebox in a bar. He was a pretty good QB, wouldn't you say?
RE: I don't understand how anybody can snort coke  
dorgan : 7/25/2014 2:23 pm : link
In comment 11781527 aquidneck said:
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The carbonation hurts my nose.


Rich, is that you?
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chris r : 7/25/2014 2:23 pm : link
In comment 11781521 arcarsenal said:
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I want this guy to light the league on fire so bad so that all of these holier-than-thou shitheads who act like they were never 21 years old before can kindly clamp it.


Yes its exactly the same to be 21 getting paid millions to be a professional QB and to be regular 21 year old.

If Manziel wants to dick around like a normal 21 year old, he can. Don't expect to do it while being paid millions to be the face of a franchise and not expect scrutiny.
Hes  
spike : 7/25/2014 2:24 pm : link
no Eli
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arcarsenal : 7/25/2014 2:25 pm : link
Maybe he'll grow up a bit in the coming years and mature? You know.. like most people do throughout their 20's?

What a novel concept!
yeah great  
chris r : 7/25/2014 2:27 pm : link
the point is he's being paid now. If he thought he needed more time to fulfill his professional duty, maybe he should have stayed another year in college.

And btw, not everyone acts like an obnoxious douchebag at 21.
It also took Stabler until he was 28 to become a starting QB  
Defenderdawg : 7/25/2014 2:28 pm : link
The competition had something to do with it...but he also quit briefly at one point...

"Stabler was selected by the Raiders in the second round of the 1968 draft (52nd over all). After quitting briefly in frustration, he returned to Oakland in 1970. Stabler waited his turn behind Daryle Lamonica and George Blanda until becoming the starter in 1973, the year he turned 28."

The expectations for Manziel are higher.
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EricNY33 : 7/25/2014 2:28 pm : link
I'm with you. Such a non-story IMO
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arcarsenal : 7/25/2014 2:30 pm : link
And if he does his job on the football field, what he's getting paid will be a completely worthwhile investment.

You (and others) not approving of his off-field behavior has nothing to do with his NFL contract until it starts impacting his play on the field. That has not happened yet. Let me know when it does.
I hope he scrambles in for a touchdown then snorts the goal line  
Kyle : 7/25/2014 2:30 pm : link
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Well not  
EricNY33 : 7/25/2014 2:31 pm : link
every 21 year old has won a Heisman Trophy and been in the media spotlight for the past 2 years either.

He's a young, rich kid enjoying being a young, rich kid.
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dep026 : 7/25/2014 2:31 pm : link
In comment 11781545 Kyle said:
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this.
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BurberryManning : 7/25/2014 2:31 pm : link
In comment 11781545 Kyle said:
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That would be an epic troll. Really hope he does it.
If  
dorgan : 7/25/2014 2:33 pm : link
I was the Browns coach or GM I'd be concerned only over the possibility of him using coke. The rest of the noise is just that, noise.

That picture is pretty alarming and they do need to keep a watch on that.
You agreed with me  
Randy in CT : 7/25/2014 2:34 pm : link
TWICE today!
RE: how come we didn't hear this about Luck  
njm : 7/25/2014 2:34 pm : link
In comment 11781517 chris r said:
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or other young QBs coming into the league young?

Is it just that people want Manziel to act 35 more than they wanted the other QBs to act that age? That seems arbitrary.


Luck's father played in the NFL and was AD at West Virginia. He (the father) also graduated summa cum laude with a 3.95 GPA at WVU. Eli had Archie and Peyton. Manziel doesn't have that kind on mentoring system in place.
If they think  
EricNY33 : 7/25/2014 2:36 pm : link
he's doing coke than test him. Seems pretty easy to me.
I hope he's great just to make Jerry Jones angry for not drafting him  
Marty in Albany : 7/25/2014 2:39 pm : link
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RE: If they think  
Randy in CT : 7/25/2014 2:40 pm : link
In comment 11781555 EricNY33 said:
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he's doing coke than test him. Seems pretty easy to me.
They will be.
Most 21 year olds aren't NFL team leaders or faces of a franchise  
The Natural : 7/25/2014 2:41 pm : link
or make millions....To compare him to other kids at that age is ridiculous.

You have to grow up faster and be more mature or the media will run you over. He brings more baggage than most so he better make football his top priority....
I dont believe that Coke  
BurberryManning : 7/25/2014 2:44 pm : link
stays in one's system very long after having ingested it. Testing for that sort of substance abuse may be troublesome.
Jimmy cracked corn......  
Victor in CT : 7/25/2014 2:45 pm : link
and I don't care. Not our problem
They are worried that he will age physically...  
manh george : 7/25/2014 2:47 pm : link
before he does mentally and emotionally.




Too many honky-tonk women.
He'll get his chance to decide his fate on the field  
BeerFridge : 7/25/2014 2:47 pm : link
and we will see how it turns out. It's a bit early to draw too much of a conclusion either way.
RE: If they think  
GIANTSr01 : 7/25/2014 2:49 pm : link
In comment 11781555 EricNY33 said:
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he's doing coke than test him. Seems pretty easy to me.


The article made it sound like it's standard protocol to test a player after photos (or other evidence) like that appears. So they very well might have.
RE: Most 21 year olds aren't NFL team leaders or faces of a franchise  
GIANTSr01 : 7/25/2014 2:50 pm : link
In comment 11781559 The Natural said:
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or make millions....To compare him to other kids at that age is ridiculous.

You have to grow up faster and be more mature or the media will run you over. He brings more baggage than most so he better make football his top priority....


The media has been trying to run him over for 2+ years now. He might handle them unconventionally, but so far they haven't affected his on-field performance (i.e. what he's getting paid for).
STOP!  
EricNY33 : 7/25/2014 2:50 pm : link
You think Johnny Manziel is the first player to ever do this? The only reason it's a story is because of Instagram and Twitter.

Brett Favre was a notorious party boy in his collegiate and early NFL days. It didn't seem to effect him too much as a player.

The guy isn't even a guaranteed starting QB and people fall all over themselves with every move he makes. This is Tim Tebow all over again, except Manziel is the devil to Tebow's angel.
and Manziel can actually throw the ball  
GIANTSr01 : 7/25/2014 2:52 pm : link
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I've never seen him play.  
Big Blue '56 : 7/25/2014 2:57 pm : link
Looking forward to it
manh george  
dorgan : 7/25/2014 2:59 pm : link
Ol' Keith's face may look like death warmed over but what a ride he had getting there.

I can't believe he's still alive.
well he already LOOKS like he's 35  
I Love Clams Casino : 7/25/2014 3:17 pm : link
chris r  
Matt M. : 7/25/2014 3:32 pm : link
By all accounts, he is fulfilling his professional duties.
Yeah I know it's the NFL  
Big Rick in FL : 7/25/2014 3:35 pm : link
But the guy has been doing this for a while now and has been pretty damn successful. Some people aren't effected by the partying. Not to mention it was the offseason. I doubt it will be the same during the regular season. He isn't a stupid person. He will know when it is time to party and when it is time to be serious. The Browns need Gordon back, but if that guy can get his life straight and they can get one more weapon on the other side I think Manziel is going to be really good. The Browns have a great Oline, solid RB, very good TE and great WR if he is there.

All this news coming out of how the Browns are basically surprised by his partying? How dumb can you be. This is nothing new.
Not affected by the partying?  
Randy in CT : 7/25/2014 3:39 pm : link
He will get suspended if he's using drugs which are traceable to start with. Lots of naive folks here that think Manziel's actions thus far are no big deal. May not be but it isn't looking great so far.
There's nothing wrong with what he does  
Kulish29 : 7/25/2014 3:56 pm : link
it's that he's so public about it.

Plenty of famous people go out, have fun, and you never hear about it nor are they douche bags.

I think  
I Love Clams Casino : 7/25/2014 4:14 pm : link
he parties too much

I don't think he parties too much

Having said that, I think this is going to be a problem and not a problem

at then end of the day, who gives a shit anyway...

Hey it's football news, so I care -

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