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NFT: NYT Ed. Bd. calls for federal legalization of marijuana

Dunedin81 : 7/27/2014 5:24 pm
The Editorial Board called for an end to the federal prohibition on marijuana, to pave the way for state policies to regulate the issue. They point out, among other things, the problem with having state policy exist at the whim of federal enforcement. This isn't quite the start of a national conversation on the subject but along with the recent state policy changes this could be perceived as a milestone.
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Would you support insurance companies not  
buford : 7/28/2014 9:50 am : link
covering your injuries or death if you don't wear a seat belt?
I agree that it's an impingement on that freedom  
Bill L : 7/28/2014 9:53 am : link
But I would argue that there are countless other things that we are not allowed to put in our bodies..and some for very good reason... I wouldn't start an advocacy group, have a parade, or give it much thought other than wistful remembrances.
RE: RE: I'm torn about this...  
Dan in the Springs : 7/28/2014 9:56 am : link
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There is literally ZERO barrier for minors to obtain marijuana. The only ones who think its hard for teenagers to get marijuana is out of touch adults.


While it may be true that I'm an out of touch adult as it pertains to many things, I do believe I know a few things about the access minors have to weed in my neighborhood. You do realize that access to mj varies by market, don't you? Additionally, while I agree that the barriers are fairly low (and in your neighborhood may have reached zero), I don't think the barriers are equivalent for 17 year olds and nine year olds. My point being that legalization will increase the likelihood of minors accessing pot overall requires only that some barriers exist at some level somewhere in the country. Do you really deny that might be true?

Buford  
cosmicj : 7/28/2014 9:56 am : link
no idea about that question but apparently in some states it can seriously limit your insurance coverage in case of accident. That is apparently true in NJ, btw.
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The pain part is such an intintessimal proportion  
Bill L : 7/28/2014 9:57 am : link
likely none of the actual parade walkers, and also likely being used as an excuse. But I'll grant that's a slightly different category or exception...comparable to banning lipitor or Cox-2 inhibitors. There. you might advocate. However, they could, also, if serious, separate the pain/nausea-alleviating portion from the psychoactive portion and provide it in pill form and that should quash protests.
RE: I'm with Cam.  
Bill L : 7/28/2014 9:59 am : link
In comment 11783626 drkenneth said:
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It's not "inconsequential". Maybe for you, but tell that to the millions who use it to relax, alleviate pain, etc...Those who've been incarcerated.



Sorry, should have linked this to my last answer.

Wrt the incarcerated. Of course it consequential to them because they have made it so. My point is not about the drug per se but about people who allow it to become so much more than it is...so that it becomes something that leads them to criminal behavior.
I wonder if the use of alcohol would decline.  
Reese's Pieces : 7/28/2014 10:45 am : link
That would be a net plus for society across the board, since alcohol does much more damage from fatal DWIs to cirrhosis of the liver to stomach and throat cancer.
Not commenting on the merits but one interesting side affect  
bhill410 : 7/28/2014 11:00 am : link
To the Colorado and Washington legalization is that many of the farmers in Mexico have switched to poppy for heroin sales. Now I dont think heroin usage will ever be as commonplace as pot simply because people aren't that dumb, but even a small uptick has a much more rampant societal consequence because of the pure devestating nature of the drug. That being said you have to think any "war on drugs" would be more effective and simpler if you remove marjuiana and simply focused on heroin, meth, and crack which most sane humans realize are on a completely different planet than pot.
RE: The hypocracy of the Times position is that  
vibe4giants : 7/28/2014 12:30 pm : link
In comment 11783519 Hammer said:
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their human resources department will continue to insist on pre-employment and post injury mandatory drug screenings which will result in refusal to hire and discipline if the subject tests positive for THC.


That's not hypocrisy. The Editorial is about where they think the law should go. The current policy reflects where it is.

And if even it does get legalized in the future, their corporate policy could still not change. The Editorial Board wouldn't make that decision. For a variety of reasons, those in charge of those decisions may still not feel like it's good policy for their company. (Just look at what happened to Maureen Dowd.)
One thing the pro-legalization circles should take to heart  
Overseer : 7/28/2014 12:54 pm : link
is to take it all very seriously.

Follow the law to the letter, work with local politicians and law enforcement, and most importantly do not advertise in a way that attracts children. They should ditch candy bars and the like and put clear, conspicuous warnings on edibles which, for anyone who has tried them, are not to be fucked around with.

They need to cultivate an image of running a business for adults (like your local neighborhood dildo shop) rather than just stoners being now legally able to get stoned with other stoners.
I think that is happening, no?  
drkenneth : 7/28/2014 12:57 pm : link
This is big business. Not just a couple of stoners bitching.
People driving with cell phones  
PEEJ : 7/28/2014 12:59 pm : link
are a bigger danger
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