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NFT: Phils vs Mets Game 1

sshin05 : 7/28/2014 3:17 pm
Mets lineup:

Granderson RF
Murphy 2B
Wright 3B
Duda 1B
C Young LF
D'Arnaud C
Lagares CF
Tejada SS
Colon P

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why not  
Rory : 7/28/2014 9:28 pm : link
are we or are we not a big market team???

Rather go heavy for him then over pay for anything that's available in FA next year while also forfeiting 1st rd pick .
with redsox and yankees involved  
CGiants07 : 7/28/2014 9:30 pm : link
bidding will be too rich for sandy's blood
Have not watched the game just scanned the play by play online...  
Kevin999 : 7/28/2014 9:31 pm : link
but how many "infield single to short" have there been??? Are they legit hits or would someone else have made the out?
I swear Collins is so annoying  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 9:31 pm : link
He's at 120 pitches and you have a 7 run lead you jackass.
with 2 outs , Colon at 121 pitches gives up a run ..  
Rory : 7/28/2014 9:31 pm : link
time to go to big Edge
Rory it has more to do  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 9:33 pm : link
with the risk involved. He's no sure thing and is still going to cost a lot. If we had a 130 million dollar payroll it wouldn't be a big deal but you don't want to waste the last 20 million or so available on a complete unknown. If it were my money, Id sign him, but I do get the logic.
Kevin  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 9:36 pm : link
Tejada has had a pretty shitty game defensively. Nothing crazy but a lot of weak dives and balls that he probably should have gotten to. Half ass attempt at a ball over the 2nd base bag early. Belly flopped on a ball and threw it way wide of first. Looks pretty slow tonight.
Collins said last night after bringing deGrom ount for an extra inning  
Ira : 7/28/2014 9:41 pm : link
that he'd get an extra days rest before his next start. I think he's using the same logic tonight with Colon.
DARNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 9:41 pm : link
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TDA  
spike : 7/28/2014 9:43 pm : link
really enjoys Citifield
looks like  
spike : 7/28/2014 9:44 pm : link
TDA and Lagares are having a bit of resurgence again.
per Fox Sports : RotoWorld  
Rory : 7/28/2014 9:46 pm : link
FOX Sports' Jon Morosi reports that the Blue Jays, Cardinals, Pirates and Braves have scouts at Monday's Bartolo Colon versus A.J. Burnett matchup.

Id be interested in Josh Harrison from Pirates , wonder what it would take to get Oscar from St. Louis
Abreu looks spent  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 9:46 pm : link
maybe time to put him out to pasteur.
RE: per Fox Sports : RotoWorld  
CGiants07 : 7/28/2014 9:50 pm : link
In comment 11784786 Rory said:
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FOX Sports' Jon Morosi reports that the Blue Jays, Cardinals, Pirates and Braves have scouts at Monday's Bartolo Colon versus A.J. Burnett matchup.

Id be interested in Josh Harrison from Pirates , wonder what it would take to get Oscar from St. Louis

thor
thanks Z  
Kevin999 : 7/28/2014 9:54 pm : link
So great D and an awesome 0 for 3 is showing us why he should be playing!
Too bad  
spike : 7/28/2014 10:01 pm : link
we have to waste Vic Black on a night like this..
Why the once mighty have fallen  
spike : 7/28/2014 10:01 pm : link
ROllins is batting 239
Oh Terry  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 10:02 pm : link
7-1 lead and you go to Black on back to back days. My oh my Terry.
Why can't Carlyle pitch here?  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 10:03 pm : link
geezus. Its really indefensible. Luckily Black isn't our only good arm.
RE: Why can't Carlyle pitch here?  
CGiants07 : 7/28/2014 10:04 pm : link
In comment 11784807 ZGiants98 said:
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geezus. Its really indefensible. Luckily Black isn't our only good arm.


he was warming in 8th maybe couldn't get loose?
good job by Black to close the gates and shut the lights  
spike : 7/28/2014 10:06 pm : link
.
Cole Hamels vs Dillon Gee tomorrow  
spike : 7/28/2014 10:09 pm : link
lets hope Gee bounces back from his past two starts.
Lets hope Wright wakes the fuck up  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 10:11 pm : link
He normally owns Hammels but lately, I doubt it. Time for the big bat all star we are paying a ton of money to, to contribute.
Wright is playing through injuries and probably has most  
NyquistX3 : 7/28/2014 10:21 pm : link
He doesn't need to wake up. He needs to get his body healthy.
most of the year*  
NyquistX3 : 7/28/2014 10:21 pm : link
.
That might be the case...  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 10:27 pm : link
but he checked out fine. If he's really hurt DL him. He can't hit righties right now. The truth is I really don't know. Wright's been pretty bad all year... long before the shoulder issue. He's had a few spurts where it looked like he was going to come out of it but.... I really just don't know.
^^^ lol  
PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2014 10:28 pm : link
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Yeah... laugh your ass  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 10:30 pm : link
off. By the far the worst year in Wright's career.
Im one of Wright's biggest fans  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 10:33 pm : link
and I keep thinking he's about to come out of it but this has not been 20 million a year production, sorry it hasn't. He's underperforming this year plain and simple.
well, I guess you closed the book on this season  
PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2014 10:34 pm : link
for wright already, huh?

There's a lot of bad players on this team. DW isnt one of them. He hasnt been great, but he's not bad. So sorry he's not up to your expectations. ..so far...this season.
No I fucking haven't closed the  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 10:35 pm : link
door. I want him to come out of it as much as anyone. Read the fucking thread. Im basically begging for him to get a hit. I don't know what his deal is this year. I really don't.
yes, he's underperforming...that we can agree on  
PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2014 10:38 pm : link
You are always so stuck on the $$$ part with Wright

If DW was making $10 million this year with the same stats...he'd be having a better year in your eyes?
Yeah it would be somewhat better?  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 10:46 pm : link
What kind of question is that though? If Granderson was getting paid twice what he is making now I wouldn't be that happy with his production either. Honestly batting .270 with 8 home runs, barely OPSing .700 is bad for a 3rd baseman period. He's 8th out of 10 hitters in the NL at third and getting paid top dollar. Im not bashing the guy. I love him. I just want him to at least be 70% of the player he once was. Its frustrating.
And even more worrisome  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 10:47 pm : link
is this just an off year or the start of a decline?? His numbers seem to be regressing over the last couple seasons and the nagging shoulder injuries and back injuries might be taking a toll.

On the other hand he's always been real fucking streaky so hopefully its the latter and he's about to heat up.
Let me ask you this  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 10:49 pm : link
If we traded the whole farm for Tulo(who's almost the same age) and he came here and next year and hit .270 with 12 home runs AND we were paying him 20 million per would you not be pissed? Take the Wright blinders off for a minute. I love the guy too but he's not doing his part.
eh well  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 11:01 pm : link
Pretty happy with this team right now and don't want to ruin a good night picking on David. Hopefully he comes out of it against his boy Hamels tomorrow who he's historically owned.
RE: Yeah... laugh your ass  
NyquistX3 : 7/28/2014 11:30 pm : link
In comment 11784841 ZGiants98 said:
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off. By the far the worst year in Wright's career.


No, the broken back year was his worst. He's already been more productive through July this season than that year.
Sorry Nyquist but your wrong  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 11:35 pm : link
The year you are referring to was 2011. He still hit 14 home runs that year in only 389 at bats. While you are right that that year is by far the closest to being his worst year other than this year he still OPSed .770 that year with only a .250 batting average. He's OPSing 740 right now, the lowest of his career.
Unless you are going off WAR?  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 11:37 pm : link
Im not really worrying about his defense, I think we are concerned about his bat.
Yeah, WAR. 1.8 already, 1.7 in 2011.  
NyquistX3 : 7/28/2014 11:44 pm : link
His back injury made his defense worse. Prevented runs are just as good as produced runs, we have to count defense in production, too.
Yeah that was the year  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2014 11:48 pm : link
he was godawful defensively and couldn't throw to first but he's already surpassed the at bats at this point in the season and their WARs aren't that far off. From a hitting standpoint he was better that year even with a broken back.

Listen, Im going to get of Wright now. He's had a very disappointing year. No other way around it.
At this point, it might make sense to bat d'Arnaud fifth  
Ira : 7/29/2014 6:43 am : link
on a permanent basis - giving us a strong 1-5 group to start our lineup.
Law-  
DanMetroMan : 7/29/2014 7:54 am : link
• I headed down to Aberdeen on Wednesday to try to see the Brooklyn Cyclones and the New York Mets' first-round pick, Michael Conforto, but the game was interrupted after one inning by a two-hour rain delay and I saw just one at-bat of each hitter I was hoping to catch. Conforto was caught looking on a dubious strike call on a changeup away; in BP, he loaded his hands high and deep but got the bat head into the zone quickly, rotated his hips extremely well for pull power, and let the ball travel well. He's too old and experienced for the New York-Penn League and should be promoted out of there, ideally to high-A St. Lucie, within the next week or two. Meanwhile, Brooklyn starter Casey Meisner was awful, throwing 87-91 mph with an above-average curveball but no command or deception.
Where are the guys who said Conforto is another  
Headhunter : 7/29/2014 8:01 am : link
Lucas Duda/ Jeromy Burnitz?
HH  
DanMetroMan : 7/29/2014 8:07 am : link
I'd sign for Duda with average LF defense to be honest with you! Another Duda in this lineup (who wasn't Duda bad in LF) would be a really nice addition.
"ConDuda"  
DanMetroMan : 7/29/2014 8:10 am : link
would rank 3rd in baseball amongst LF in terms of wRC+ (143 behind Seth Smith and Michael Brantley) and 4th in wOBA behind Smith, Brantley and Melky (PS jeez LF is weak around the game right now).
Dan...  
Italianju : 7/29/2014 8:51 am : link
do you think the mets will be as aggressive with Conforto as Law is suggesting? It does seem like BRK is not enough of a challenge for him.
RE: Where are the guys who said Conforto is another  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/29/2014 8:51 am : link
In comment 11784966 Headhunter said:
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Lucas Duda/ Jeromy Burnitz?


Why do people declare busts this early? lol
DePo  
DanMetroMan : 7/29/2014 9:20 am : link
implied BK for the majority of the season is the plan. I guess that can change but the Mets don't seem to care about external critique (Law thought Cecchini going to BK last year was a strange call for example). I think the whole thing is overblown to be honest. Conforto will almost certainly begin next season in St. Lucie either way so if it's an extra 20-30 games because they weren't "aggressive" this year who really cares?
DeGrom the past month  
Shecky : 7/29/2014 9:29 am : link
# Name Team GS IP K% BB% GB% ERA- FIP- xFIP- â–¾
1 Tyson Ross Padres 5 35.0 30.8% 3.8% 51.2% 29 47 52
2 Stephen Strasburg Nationals 5 32.2 30.3% 5.3% 44.6% 98 79 57
3 Hyun-Jin Ryu Dodgers 5 28.1 26.9% 3.4% 49.4% 126 62 59
4 Josh Tomlin Indians 5 31.1 24.2% 0.8% 38.5% 121 101 60
5 Yu Darvish Rangers 5 30.0 33.1% 4.8% 36.8% 94 67 61
6 Felix Hernandez Mariners 5 38.0 32.6% 7.3% 61.4% 31 60 62
7 Jacob deGrom Mets 5 32.1 29.7% 5.5% 46.3% 40 40 65
8 Corey Kluber Indians 5 38.2 27.4% 3.4% 56.0% 49 59 65
9 Zack Greinke Dodgers 5 34.2 28.3% 5.8% 54.5% 66 65 65
10 Garrett Richards Angels 5 36.1 28.6% 5.7% 56.8% 60 60 66

Sorry if the formatting is off. But based on xFiP, DeGrom has been the 7th best pitcher in MLB the past month. See the fangraphs link for better formatting

DeGrom 7th the past month - ( New Window )
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