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Francesa at Giants Camp Today at 1pm

giants90 : 7/29/2014 12:31 pm
Eli Manning, Tom Coughlin, Antrel Rolle, Stevie Brown, Jerry Reese, and John Mara are all expected to be on with him at some point during the show.
Pass da Diet Coke mongos...  
Optimus-NY : 7/29/2014 12:35 pm : link
I'm here  
Matt in SGS : 7/29/2014 12:55 pm : link
wid Eli. Eli, before we taulk about da new offense, let's discuss if da Mets should trade Bartolo Colon.
Mike does the same Coughlin interview every year.  
bceagle05 : 7/29/2014 1:04 pm : link
First order of business is to talk sarcastically about much tougher camp was back in the day, and how impossible it is to work on the running game with limited hitting and practice time.

At least this year there's a new OC to discuss,though Mike still insists it's Coughlin's offense.
Interview with Reese at 1:20, for you mongos.  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/29/2014 1:05 pm : link
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Great job Fox Sports.  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/29/2014 1:06 pm : link
Mara is at 1:20. TC at 2.
In depth analysis  
natefit : 7/29/2014 1:08 pm : link
of Mets and Yankees to open...
"OK, weeyuh back"  
Exit 172 : 7/29/2014 1:17 pm : link
Good call bceagle  
JB in BB : 7/29/2014 1:21 pm : link
Mike's already going on about how tough camp was back in the day.
not that we didn't already know  
MookGiants : 7/29/2014 1:28 pm : link
but Reese basically just admitted Gilbride was pushed out the door. He said it was time for us to make some changes in regards to Gilbride, he said that after saying that Gilbride is one of the smartest coaches he's ever been around
Our new Offensive Coordinator  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/29/2014 1:30 pm : link
Acadoo.
RE: not that we didn't already know  
Matt in SGS : 7/29/2014 1:42 pm : link
In comment 11785501 MookGiants said:
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but Reese basically just admitted Gilbride was pushed out the door. He said it was time for us to make some changes in regards to Gilbride, he said that after saying that Gilbride is one of the smartest coaches he's ever been around


Mook, good catch. It was pretty clear that he was pushed out. If the story held that Gilbride had decided to retire during the season and spend more time with his family (which is the corporate go-to message when someone in management is shown the door), it made no sense for a few days after the season, Coughlin was non-committal on his coordinators/coaches and it took nearly a week for Gilbride to say he was gone. If Gilbride had made up his mind, the Monday after the season they would have announced his retirement. I don't know for sure, but odds are that Coughlin pushed to keep him, but once his hand was forced, Gilbride took the high road and retired rather than get the same fate that Pope got.
Gilbride  
PaulN : 7/29/2014 1:49 pm : link
Won 2 rings as our offensive coordinator, 1 day even an idiot will realize the guy must have been pretty good to get his offense to play on the level it did against All time great teams, 1 team 18-0, the other team 17-1, not to even mention the 2007 packers who lost 2 regular season games, or the 2007 Cowboys who lost about 3 games. Headed the offense twice against in Super Bowl wins against possibly the greatest defensive mind in the history of the game. But why ruin an idiots rant.
...and now Mara has said 3x  
FranknWeezer : 7/29/2014 1:51 pm : link
that Gilbride made the decision on his own to retire, and we then moved forward accordingly and wound up with McAdoo. Seems disingenuous.
idiot  
G2 : 7/29/2014 1:52 pm : link
obsessing on Coughlin's age, again..Same thing every year
"I get asked about it regarding my career"  
drkenneth : 7/29/2014 1:55 pm : link
Francesser comparing his career to a 2x Super Bowl champ coach.

I wonder is Mara walks away thinking "What an asshole."

Maybe Gilbride offered to retire  
Exit 172 : 7/29/2014 1:55 pm : link
on the condition that his son be retained on the staff.

(I have to admit, it doesn't always seem obvious to me why his son survived the coaching staff turnover as the tight ends coach.)
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Dave in Hoboken : 7/29/2014 1:57 pm : link
In comment 11785545 drkenneth said:
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Francesser comparing his career to a 2x Super Bowl champ coach.

I wonder is Mara walks away thinking "What an asshole."


Probably. It looked like Mara smirked alittle when Mike said that. Fat slob.
Reese, the guy who didn't give Gilbride players when Nicks  
Bobby Epps : 7/29/2014 1:57 pm : link
gave up, the OL was tissue-paper thin, signed a TE who couldn't separate from anyone and had atrocious drafts, etc., is still around and talks about Gilbride getting pushed out.

For the 2013 season, the phrase should be: "In Reese we bust".
People who bash Francesa have no clue  
mac attack : 7/29/2014 1:57 pm : link
He is the best in the world at what he does.
Not that it matters or would anyone believe me  
aimrocky : 7/29/2014 2:03 pm : link
but I'm good friends with members of the Gilbride family (met him at a wedding and he's gotten us tickets to a few games). My buddy told us early in the season (Sept-Oct?) that he was retiring at seasons end. He may have retired before this season, but working with his son kept him around for a few more seasons, but after being passed up for several HC positions since the '07 run, he had retirement on his mind.

Just a guess, but I'm sure Reese was speaking in generalities, that it was time to change things up.
Re the Gilbride situation...  
Klaatu : 7/29/2014 2:07 pm : link


What difference, at this point, does it make?
I prefer to think Gilbride was pushed out, because the alternative  
Kyle : 7/29/2014 2:07 pm : link
means that the Giants might have wanted to keep him, and I'd like to think my team is smarter than that.
TC said Beckham is  
Some Fan : 7/29/2014 2:11 pm : link
"out for awhile". WTF does that timeline mean?
The pope looks like he lost weight  
Some Fan : 7/29/2014 2:13 pm : link
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RE: People who bash Francesa have no clue  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/29/2014 2:18 pm : link
In comment 11785552 mac attack said:
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He is the best in the world at what he does.


lol
"training camp  
M in CT : 7/29/2014 2:21 pm : link
is like Disney Land compared to what it used to be."

great line by da pope just now.
Tom is more relaxed than I've seen him in a while  
dpinzow : 7/29/2014 2:24 pm : link
That seems like a good sign...maybe he really likes what he's seeing
RE: Maybe Gilbride offered to retire  
drkenneth : 7/29/2014 2:29 pm : link
In comment 11785546 Exit 172 said:
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on the condition that his son be retained on the staff.

(I have to admit, it doesn't always seem obvious to me why his son survived the coaching staff turnover as the tight ends coach.)


Yup. Gilbride Jr. being on this staff makes 0.0% sense.
Beason  
M in CT : 7/29/2014 2:32 pm : link
running on the treadmill today.
Take the sunglasses off.  
BigBlue in Keys : 7/29/2014 2:32 pm : link
Pretty rude to be interviewing the coach with sunglasses on. You should be able to look the person in the eyes that your talking to.
How many  
SoZKillA : 7/29/2014 2:33 pm : link
Met fan trade proposals will he take and talk about today ?
Klatuu  
Reale01 : 7/29/2014 2:35 pm : link
Risking banishment.
Dottino just referred to Bowman as the fourth corner.  
Exit 172 : 7/29/2014 2:37 pm : link
Isn't McBride the fourth corner?
Domino says Beckham has blood in the hamstring  
Canton : 7/29/2014 2:37 pm : link
Until that dissipates he won't be back..




-Sehorn



God forbid..
Dotino *  
Canton : 7/29/2014 2:38 pm : link
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In the last five minutes,  
Exit 172 : 7/29/2014 2:38 pm : link
Da Pope said, "Let's be honest" about ten times.
agree with Mike  
M in CT : 7/29/2014 2:40 pm : link
on the importance of having "someone that scares people" at tight end, particularly in the WCO.

going into the season with Larry Donnell at TE and a hobbled 1st round pick at WR is not really a recipe for immediate success. hope i'm wrong.
Dottino..."oh, he's good"  
dpinzow : 7/29/2014 2:41 pm : link
when talking about Weston Richburg. He could play right away

Dottino's opening day line

Schwartz-Walton-Richburg-Pugh from LG to RT with LT a huge question. Dottino says Beatty is still physically unprepared to play Week 1
Dottino predicts  
Exit 172 : 7/29/2014 2:42 pm : link
Richburg will start Opening Day at right guard.
ha, and add to that  
M in CT : 7/29/2014 2:42 pm : link
the possibility that Beatty continues to struggle and Charles Brown is your LT...could get ugly.
RE: RE: People who bash Francesa have no clue  
mfsd : 7/29/2014 2:43 pm : link
In comment 11785585 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 11785552 mac attack said:


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He is the best in the world at what he does.



lol


Hey TTH

I'd think Pugh would need to get shifted to LT  
dpinzow : 7/29/2014 2:45 pm : link
if there's no apparent solution because a hole at LT with a right-handed QB is deadly

Dottino says that Walton is having a tremendous camp and shows no sign of the ankle injury that sidelined him for a year. Biggest hole right now on offense is TE followed by LT with Beatty still recovering
Kim Jones coming up next.  
Exit 172 : 7/29/2014 2:48 pm : link
What do we hear more of?

a) "No question..." -- Francesar

b) "I get that!" -- Jones
RE: People who bash Francesa have no clue  
snumber6 : 7/29/2014 2:48 pm : link
In comment 11785552 mac attack said:
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He is the best in the world at what he does.


With either hand ??
I've said it 100x here...  
drkenneth : 7/29/2014 2:49 pm : link
I think Pugh is the future at LT.
Unless I'm mistaken...  
Klaatu : 7/29/2014 2:49 pm : link
Beatty has been taking the majority of snaps with the first-team O-Line, with Brown spelling him from time to time, so I don't know what Dottino is talking about...but that wouldn't be the first time for that.
As far as Gilbride goes  
mrvax : 7/29/2014 2:50 pm : link
I think it was mutual. Gilbride was considering retirement and once Mara made it clear the offense was broken...

I have no idea who said what first but I'll bet at that time Gilbride had a talk with Coughlin and decided that he should retire rather than actually getting booted.

I have no clue as to why his son was retained but they must think he's doing his job well.
Reminds me a lot of when they moved Diehl to LT  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/29/2014 2:50 pm : link
and people were wondering why they didn't move McKenzie instead.
RE: I've said it 100x here...  
mrvax : 7/29/2014 2:52 pm : link
In comment 11785648 drkenneth said:
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I think Pugh is the future at LT.


I wouldn't be surprised. Pugh was a LT throughout his college career.
Wait a Sekint wait a Sekint  
JCin332 : 7/29/2014 2:54 pm : link
Eel-eye's gonna hit seven tea puh sent Mink?

Well Ahm havin da best yea of my car-ear so I guess dats possible..



RE: Unless I'm mistaken...  
M in CT : 7/29/2014 2:58 pm : link
In comment 11785649 Klaatu said:
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Beatty has been taking the majority of snaps with the first-team O-Line, with Brown spelling him from time to time, so I don't know what Dottino is talking about...but that wouldn't be the first time for that.


yeah, i was wondering the same thing.

maybe Beatty looks a little stiff to him or something, but Dottino seemed pretty down on him.
RE: RE: I've said it 100x here...  
M in CT : 7/29/2014 2:59 pm : link
In comment 11785657 mrvax said:
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In comment 11785648 drkenneth said:


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I think Pugh is the future at LT.



I wouldn't be surprised. Pugh was a LT throughout his college career.


if you guys listened to a word Coughlin said, you'd know that Pugh is not moving from RT.
Mike never misses a chance to  
drkenneth : 7/29/2014 3:02 pm : link
tell the planet how great "Aaron Rodgizz" is.
Now Mike and Rough-face  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/29/2014 3:05 pm : link
are talking about the Jets...at Giants camp. Lets hear it for worthless, second class teams. Woohoo!
RE: RE: RE: I've said it 100x here...  
mrvax : 7/29/2014 3:06 pm : link
In comment 11785667 M in CT said:
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if you guys listened to a word Coughlin said, you'd know that Pugh is not moving from RT.


I don't think the move will happen this year but eventually unless they draft one high...

If Beatty goes back to the 2012 Beatty, that would hold off the switch.
Haha yeah Mike thinks he's doing the audience a service  
bceagle05 : 7/29/2014 3:07 pm : link
anytime he reminds us how great Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning are, and how great Luck will be. Can't get that type of insight anywhere except New Yawk's Numbah One.
Thinking the same thing.  
watertown : 7/29/2014 3:08 pm : link
Kim with that lisp is fingernails on a chalkboard.
How much teeth whitener does Francesa use?  
Some Fan : 7/29/2014 3:16 pm : link
It is blinding and unnatural looking.
Mike  
watertown : 7/29/2014 3:17 pm : link
Too arrogant to do any homework on Giants, talks over all his guests, and makes the same point over and over ad naseum. I want someone to tell
him to shut up.
Jet talk  
nygnyy274 : 7/29/2014 3:18 pm : link
When he is Live at Giants training camp smh What's next taking calls from Met fan and their trade ideas
.  
Exit 172 : 7/29/2014 3:36 pm : link
"This is Mike Francesar. Thanks fuh listenin' t'duh FAN on yaw desktop..."

(commercial)

"This is Boomer Esiason. Thanks for listening to the FAN on your desktop..."

(commercial)

"DIS IS JOE BENIGNO. TANKS FUH LISTNIN' TO DA FAN ON YUH DESKTOP..."

(commercial)
Francesa loves kim jones  
95cobraguy : 7/29/2014 3:49 pm : link
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RE: .  
That Said : 7/29/2014 3:56 pm : link
In comment 11785738 Exit 172 said:
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"This is Mike Francesar. Thanks fuh listenin' t'duh FAN on yaw desktop..."

(commercial)

"This is Boomer (clears throat) Esiason. Thanks for (clears throat) listening to the FAN (clears throat) on your desktop..."

(commercial)

"DIS IS JOE BENIGNO. TANKS FUH LISTNIN' TO DA FAN ON YUH DESKTOP..."

(commercial)
Beatty  
SBlue46 : 7/29/2014 4:36 pm : link
Is good backup...wont be 100% ....reese will look for
vet when cutdown happens.....
maybe a trade
Were you dropped on your head as a child?  
Klaatu : 7/29/2014 4:39 pm : link
More than once?
RE: .  
drkenneth : 7/29/2014 4:41 pm : link
In comment 11785738 Exit 172 said:
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"This is Mike Francesar. Thanks fuh listenin' t'duh FAN on yaw desktop..."

(commercial)

"This is Boomer Esiason. Thanks for listening to the FAN on your desktop..."

(commercial)

"DIS IS JOE BENIGNO. TANKS FUH LISTNIN' TO DA FAN ON YUH DESKTOP..."

(commercial)


What's the deal with Esiason and the throat thing? The 3 times I've actually listen to B&C, you can hear Boomer in the background clearing his throat.
Re:  
That Said : 7/29/2014 4:47 pm : link
Boomer's throat. I can't find a damn thing about it. I type in, "What's wrong with B.E.'s throat?" and I get nothing.

Not that I listen to WFAN a lot but when I do, that throat thing has got to be the most unprofessional aspect of a fairly unprofessional station.
RE: .  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/29/2014 4:50 pm : link
In comment 11785738 Exit 172 said:
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"This is Mike Francesar. Thanks fuh listenin' t'duh FAN on yaw desktop..."

(commercial)

"This is Boomer Esiason. Thanks for listening to the FAN on your desktop..."

(commercial)

"DIS IS JOE BENIGNO. TANKS FUH LISTNIN' TO DA FAN ON YUH DESKTOP..."

(commercial)


Glorious.
RE: How much teeth whitener does Francesa use?  
95cobraguy : 7/29/2014 4:53 pm : link
In comment 11785693 Some Fan said:
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It is blinding and unnatural looking.


The guy is on television every day, what would you rather his teeth look like, a loaf of potato bread?
RE: RE: How much teeth whitener does Francesa use?  
Exit 172 : 7/29/2014 5:22 pm : link
In comment 11785855 95cobraguy said:
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In comment 11785693 Some Fan said:


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It is blinding and unnatural looking.



The guy is on television every day, what would you rather his teeth look like, a loaf of potato bread?


How about baked beans?
It would nice if the Big Mouth actually let Eli answer a question  
oipolloi : 7/29/2014 5:49 pm : link
The Pope asks a question and then answers it himself,often talking right over Eli. We want to hear Eli, not, you, Francesser
RE: It would nice if the Big Mouth actually let Eli answer a question  
mfsd : 7/29/2014 6:17 pm : link
In comment 11785932 oipolloi said:
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The Pope asks a question and then answers it himself,often talking right over Eli. We want to hear Eli, not, you, Francesser


This is a concept Mike Dupp will never figure out. And yet, his disciples still think he's the "best in the world" at what he does...
I'd like them to look natural  
Some Fan : 7/29/2014 8:12 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: How much teeth whitener does Francesa use?  
95cobraguy : 7/29/2014 10:54 pm : link
In comment 11785897 Exit 172 said:
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In comment 11785855 95cobraguy said:


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In comment 11785693 Some Fan said:


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It is blinding and unnatural looking.



The guy is on television every day, what would you rather his teeth look like, a loaf of potato bread?



How about baked beans?


Only if they're the honey flavored baked beans.
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