Ryan Nassib: OK who do we listen to?

After each pre season game. We will know more after the next few weeks

...I think Nassib was a big reason the Giants hired a real QB coach. When Sean Ryan moved back to coaching receivers, the media mostly focused on Eli's lousy year. But the guy who has the most to gain from better coaching might be Nassib. While I applaud the Giants' commitment to affirmative action for young white men with Irish surnames and Ivy League pedigrees, Ryan's resume didn't exactly recommend him as a mentor for a raw NFL QB.

who have been saying that Mark Sanchez looks great in camp

With 5 exhibition games this year and now beyond his rookie season and with a serious shot at the #2 role, we're gonna see plenty of Nassib.

We'll know much more this time next month.

The live action he see's this preseason will be with the second team. Probably even some time with the first team.

plays the entire game Sunday though I know that won't happen.

Maybe the entire game after the 10th play.

Can't wait to see him.

He will play..

too early to judge, but that won't stop most of BBI. As somebody said, he's in his second year with a new offense.

Even if he doesn't work out, it was still a risk worth taking. A lot of teams had a second round grade on him. We got him for a fourth and a sixth. Several other teams were interested in Nassib in the fourth, including the Steelers, who took Landry Jones.

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...I think Nassib was a big reason the Giants hired a real QB coach. When Sean Ryan moved back to coaching receivers, the media mostly focused on Eli's lousy year. But the guy who has the most to gain from better coaching might be Nassib. While I applaud the Giants' >>commitment to affirmative action for young white men with Irish surnames and Ivy League pedigrees, Ryan's resume didn't exactly recommend him as a mentor for a raw NFL QB.''

funny one

Does it matter that they have a new system? The biggest complaint about him is inaccurate throws and being jittery in the pocket even with no pass rush. I don't see what those have to do with the system.

...because they reflect some raw skills, and an ability to produce in games when given the opportunity. If he didn't have those things going for him, there would be nothing to talk about. A fair number of professional scouts seem to have believed that Nassib had at least marginal NFL starter talent. If the reports of his steady improvement at Syracuse are true, he has the potential to harness his raw tools over time.

I think it's reasonable to assume that mechanics influence accuracy, and that comfort/confidence in a system influence mechanics. It took Eli five years, and a ton of work with Gilbride and Palmer, before he really settled in and gained consistency. He mostly looked awful as a rookie, and remained erratic until the SB XLII run. Not saying Nassib will ever be Eli; just that the learning curve exists, and that QBs climb it at different rates.

Seems like SOP around here.

Until then, it's best to just wait and see.

Coaches tend to be optimistic in order to positively reinforce a player, especially a young buck who's struggled a bit at the NFL level. Writers tend to drift into group-think especially if they're straining to write something.

It's really early, and he's learning a new system, it will take some time for him to establish a comfort level. Or not.

QB development tends to not be linear, it tends to be an up and down trend.

sense conclusion; his issues were clearly why the change was made.

If he had been running off 2011 quality play instead of a season and a half of very worrying terrible play, Ryan would still be QB coach right now regardless of who was playing the Lorenzen/Woodson/Bomar/Perilloux role and what would hypothetically benefit that guy better.

with an excellent post that raises some solid points.
Here's one more:

Never pay too much attention to any QB's woes in the early part of pre-season. Quite often a QB coach has tweaked a player's throwing motion or footwork and it takes time to make that change feel natural. This goes for vets as well as young QBs.

The second pre-season game.

because of lack of in-game experience at the NFL level. I wish he had been given a few reps late last year.

I hope to see him improve in the pre-season game by game. He should be given the bulk of the snaps. Eli doesn't need as much in the practice games. I guess Painter should get some reps also in case Nassib really craps the bed.

but that had more to do with the teams depth issues at several positions than Nasib as a prospect. Drafting him was a luxury we couldn't afford. That said he hasn't looked good to this point...but it's a new offense and the jury is still out. I personally don't believe Giants fans are so blind as to root against a guy we drafted because you didn't like the selection at the time.

That a late fourth and sixth would have filled those perceived positions of need. That's approximately the 115th. player and 175 th. Player taken. I think you realistically don't expect much there. Meantime, even if you recognize that the odds are long you see a QB. who make ght have starting potential...,you go for it. Look at the qb's who teams give up two firsts and two seconds for and still have risks.
Play with the potential upside. Eli retires you have a player who has grown up in the system and he seamlessly slides in. OR...he develops into a player and you trade him for a passel of picks.
Sure that's not likely but what's the downside? You've lost a late four and sixth where the odds of finding players were also against you only the upside was much lower.

the team did have depth issues and just because 4th and 6th round picks do not have high hit rates is no reason not to address those issues.

I think what made matters worse is that the Giants needed to carry 3 QBs which exacerbated the depth problem. I don't think anyone expected him to start but if you are going to trade a few picks that could add depth to your team because you feel that compelled by his value IMO that player should at least be a viable back up.

Nassib wasn't deemed ready wasn't that big an issue.

With that said, it would be somewhat disappointing if that were the case this season.