I'd like to do without the patented Tony Romo Insta-Pivot (TM) where he avoids the rush and beats us over the middle to Witten (who else) for a first down.
Frustrating jackass.
RE: RE: I like this, and I like the Peterson contract. Â
If I was a player his age, not sure I'd want to be locked up that long. It's one thing if it was guaranteed, but they only keep him around in years 6-8 is if he's a bargain.
RE: RE: RE: I like this, and I like the Peterson contract. Â
Unfortunately, about 45 o 47 other players on the team will be getting sh*$ because about 6-8 guys will be getting 80% of the cap.
Is there a sport you know of where the money is evenly spread out between all players on a team?
Please let us know. Even the Yankees pinch pennies where they can at certain positions.
Is it a "1% vs. 99%" issue where there is no "middle class" in the NFL? Perhaps.
Of course, the league has set it that way. That's how it goes.
Football is different because of the size of the roster -53 players vs 25 Baseball. Can't really use baseball because there is no real cap.
It is definitely 1% vs 99% no middle class.
I think it sucks. Hard to build a consistent team when 1/3 of the players are signed to cheap 1 yr contracts and wave good by at the end of the year. Only thing good is the rookie cap. It was stupid to pay a guy that never was at an NFL practice more than 90% of the rest of the team without knowing if he could even play the game.
Everytime one of these ridiculous deals is signed it jacks the bar so high that it reduces the chances of re-signing your own players.
It is good for the player and I don't begrudge him the money he can get, he has earned that right. I just look at what it does to the other guys on that team.
Any sport that has a hard salary cap doesn't want teams that are "consistent" because the cap forces movement of players from team to team every few years eliminating the concentration a few teams with the best players.
Other sports (NBA, MLB) try to work around it with a tax punitive enough to serve as a hard cap. (see: Brooklyn Nets - $90 million tax bill in 2014)
Some teams in the NFL (and now the NHL) are able to work the system better than others, but it's all a race against the clock. Unless you have a few select generational type players who can overcome your deficiencies, a good team who drafts and develops its players will always fight an uphill battle to keep them over the long term.
Why? Because when you run short of money to pay them because of the hard cap, other teams will have money to pay them instead.
It does penalize teams for doing every right to acquire all those players and developing them into big players. Once one accepts that is simply part of business, you work within the system.
He's going to, barring injury, get through most if not all if this contract. I'm sure there are safeguards for possible injury but this is a ton of dough for anyone. Nothing like an owner who likes to make headlines any way he can. And he's still in lousy cap shape.
thousands of posters behind my 80% cash against the cap rule.
This rule change would allow a team to only count 80% of a player's new contract towards the cap if that player was originally drafted or signed by that team.
It would help teams & fans keep the player they originally groomed and the player doesn't lose a dime. Teams that draft well would be rewarded most.
This change would of course have to be passed by the NFL and the players union.
RE: What is the point of extending a guy at an outlandish rate Â
The Giants did the same thing with Chris Snee. If you think a player is going to be a long term piece you sign him to an extension. Especially when the majority of guaranteed money will be paid by the time he is 28
If you wait and start dealing with franchise tag numbers, in 2 years it may be double what it is now for a franchise LT.
Would you really want to pay what a 25 year old Pro Bowl LT would command on the open market in 2016
Not oulandish, I think its about time teams start showing love to players other than QBs as far as extending them before the final year of their contract. The salary cap makes teams make tough choices, but I am glad a couple of guys who are not QBs made their respective teams feel the need to boost their salaries. appreciating their efforts, instead of hard balling them and getting all they can out of them on their rookie deals, and then franchising them, perhaps twice. Oh man, I must be a socialist.
Dropped a number from my last tweet: Tyron Smith deal with @dallascowboys is $12.2m per year. That's how it's $98m over 8.
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Tyron Smith's deal is for 8 years and averages $12. million per season, I'm told. That's $98 million. Ka-ching
The devils in the details as always, but on the surface it blows away Joe Thomas's deal...
The top players have been getting some bank for a while now...
Unfortunately, about 45 o 47 other players on the team will be getting sh*$ because about 6-8 guys will be getting 80% of the cap.
It should always be on the box. Comforting you. Calling out --"i'm good..i'll never let you down but if I do, i'm gonna make things all better"
I'd like to do without the patented Tony Romo Insta-Pivot (TM) where he avoids the rush and beats us over the middle to Witten (who else) for a first down.
Frustrating jackass.
Is there a sport you know of where the money is evenly spread out between all players on a team?
Please let us know. Even the Yankees pinch pennies where they can at certain positions.
Is it a "1% vs. 99%" issue where there is no "middle class" in the NFL? Perhaps.
Of course, the league has set it that way. That's how it goes.
I'd rather have 2 decent OTs each making half of Smith's contract. Same goes with CBs and Peterson.
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Unfortunately, about 45 o 47 other players on the team will be getting sh*$ because about 6-8 guys will be getting 80% of the cap.
Is there a sport you know of where the money is evenly spread out between all players on a team?
Please let us know. Even the Yankees pinch pennies where they can at certain positions.
Is it a "1% vs. 99%" issue where there is no "middle class" in the NFL? Perhaps.
Of course, the league has set it that way. That's how it goes.
Football is different because of the size of the roster -53 players vs 25 Baseball. Can't really use baseball because there is no real cap.
It is definitely 1% vs 99% no middle class.
I think it sucks. Hard to build a consistent team when 1/3 of the players are signed to cheap 1 yr contracts and wave good by at the end of the year. Only thing good is the rookie cap. It was stupid to pay a guy that never was at an NFL practice more than 90% of the rest of the team without knowing if he could even play the game.
Everytime one of these ridiculous deals is signed it jacks the bar so high that it reduces the chances of re-signing your own players.
It is good for the player and I don't begrudge him the money he can get, he has earned that right. I just look at what it does to the other guys on that team.
He will make 32M the 1st 3 years of that extension(ages 26-28) which means only 8M after that is guaranteed
Other sports (NBA, MLB) try to work around it with a tax punitive enough to serve as a hard cap. (see: Brooklyn Nets - $90 million tax bill in 2014)
Some teams in the NFL (and now the NHL) are able to work the system better than others, but it's all a race against the clock. Unless you have a few select generational type players who can overcome your deficiencies, a good team who drafts and develops its players will always fight an uphill battle to keep them over the long term.
Why? Because when you run short of money to pay them because of the hard cap, other teams will have money to pay them instead.
It does penalize teams for doing every right to acquire all those players and developing them into big players. Once one accepts that is simply part of business, you work within the system.
This rule change would allow a team to only count 80% of a player's new contract towards the cap if that player was originally drafted or signed by that team.
It would help teams & fans keep the player they originally groomed and the player doesn't lose a dime. Teams that draft well would be rewarded most.
This change would of course have to be passed by the NFL and the players union.
Headlines! Jerry Jones is being talked about again.
Why wait until next offseason when he can spend more against his cap today? Refinance Romo again Jerry
If you wait and start dealing with franchise tag numbers, in 2 years it may be double what it is now for a franchise LT.
Would you really want to pay what a 25 year old Pro Bowl LT would command on the open market in 2016
No. He's 23. Barring disastrous injury, he's playing more than 4 years.