supposedly not if but when, according to ESPN...
"Kevin Love joining the Cavaliers appears to be imminent, according to ESPN.
We still don't know exactly what the Cavs will give to acquire Love, but the fact that sources are calling a trade a "when, not if" situation points to Love joining the Cavs at some point. Cleveland appears to be the only team the Wolves are talking to about a Love trade, and chances are that Andrew Wiggins is involved, along with Anthony Bennett. But regardless of what names are involved in a potential trade, it does sound like the Cavs will have Kyrie Irving, LeBron James and Kevin Love on the court together at some point this season. If a deal does go down, it's not likely to happen officially until 30 days have passed from the day Wiggins was signed by the Cavs (July 24)."
The bulls supposed offer is the biggest fake smoke screen ever just to get more out of the cavs. There is no fucking way taj gibson is the center piece of a love trade, its an insulting rumor. As for the warriors, include klay thompson or dont, still doesnt hold a candle to wiggins potential.
he will be a cav. Offensively this is a better big three than the last one. But this roster still needs work and seasoning. Two of that big 3 have never been to the playoffs let alone won anything therd
... But can't legally be done for another 4+ weeks
One thing that made the Heat so great was the obvious big Three, but they played such an intense defense when necessary. This Big Three can't compete defensively with the original.
Maybe this is Love + Martin? Not sure if Martin's contract is viewed as an asset or albatross. May be an eye of the beholder thing.
Maybe this is Love + Martin? Not sure if Martin's contract is viewed as an asset or albatross. May be an eye of the beholder thing.
Absolutely. Is there any doubt LeBron was "promised" they would acquire Love to pair with him? As others have pointed out, they just needed LeBron to sign first so the media could play up the whole "coming home" angle rather than LeBron joining another superteam.
he doesnt go near cleveland if not for the roots, improved basketball situation or not. And I love how were already making guys who have never beeh to the playoffs into unfairly loaded wingmates
oh well. Onto the next superteam who just won the lotto again and might add a guy who hasnt seen the playoffs yet and has never guarded a soul. The cavs were obviously about to embark on the kyrie irving led dynasty and lebron just hopped on
there are many challenges facing them in year 1
minnesota holds no cards here. I scratch my head when I hear media types state that. He is leaving, and the trade market has been lukewarm. Wiggins in any deal is the best package, whatever comes with him. I guess minny does have some leverage until training camp because the cavs would obviously much prefer he be there from day 1 rather than an early season or pre deadline deal. But once we get to october they lose any shred of leverage.
They wont give him away, but Wiggins was the #1 overall pick in a year where there were decent options. That's a fantastic haul based on precedent. Usually teams get a bunch of quarters for their superstar dollar. Wiggins would certainly be top 50 in a trade value list. Probably top 25-30.
I dont understand why we are already seeing the "Cavs supporting cast isnt that great if they win lebron carried them" campaign.
i am excited to have him back in cleveland can we not make me want to puke already with this.
tehy are and should be the favorite in the East. if they dont see the finals its a disappointment.
But if I'm Cleveland, I need defense if I'm getting Love. I don't see how valuable waiters could possibly be with even less time than before with the ball in his hands. I'd toss him in the deal for corey brewer, who thrives on the defensive end and in transition, much like wiggins.
tehy are and should be the favorite in the East. if they dont see the finals its a disappointment.
I think that's unfair. Fans were saying that about Miami in the first year of their big 3 but it took time to figure out how they played with each other. Granted given how barren the East is they should be expected to at least go to the ECF but I wouldn't be surprised if they lost out to experience. Still think the Spurs are the favorites with or without love.
Absolutely. Is there any doubt LeBron was "promised" they would acquire Love to pair with him? As others have pointed out, they just needed LeBron to sign first so the media could play up the whole "coming home" angle rather than LeBron joining another superteam.
There certainly should be -- you can't credibly promise a player that you'll be acquiring another particular player in a trade when other teams are also interested in that player.
Not sure what standard we're looking to apply for the next White American Hype (this is getting a bit uncomfortable). Kevin Love is NOT going to be Larry Bird famous. Larry was on Cheers and those McDonalds commercials. Larry is probably/possibly a top 10 overall player.
For me, i'm indifferent. Glad to see LeBron out of Miami, but part of me wants to see what Wiggins can learn in the Cavs scenario. They are a more intriguing team, IMO, with LeBron + all the young guys.
Cant fill in that blank for most allstars. Shit, Tim Duncan at his height was barely associated with the NBA brand. Post MJ, that list is Kobe, LeBron, Shaq, Wade, Iverson. Maybes include Robinson, Hill, and Yao. On the fence about Dwight, Tony Parker (a celeb), KG, Paul (recently).
but you never know how a guy who has played his entire career on a crappy team is going to fare when he is no longer the man and has to take a back seat
we know he'll rebound and hit open jumpers. not so sure about the rest of his game.
Kevin love becoming a relevant nba figure isnt going to drastically change anything by itself. But it can do nothing but help grow the nba brand which has a lot of room to grow among certain people, which happen to be a majority
And as much as I'd love to see wiggins and lebron play together, lebron does need immediate help right away. And I wouldn't discount how good Minnesota could be if Wiggins, Lavine, Rubio,Bennett, Dieng and maybe even Shabazz develop the way they were projected to
he actually became one of the best PF defenders in the league, and helped space the floor so lbj and wade could operate.
most of his fall off was castration.
he actually became one of the best PF defenders in the league, and helped space the floor so lbj and wade could operate.
most of his fall off was castration.
Bosh's defense was near best in the league. It may have gottten better, but remmeber.... rebounding is part of defense.
I also think that NBA has always trended young in its audience, and America's youths are increasingly color-desensitized. Now there is a chicken and egg problem there -- maybe NBA trends young because the older, more racially discriminating (?) generations lose interest in a black dominated league, so that a white superstar could drive older fans back. But Kevin Love is not a superstar. At best, in Cleveland he's top 10 player who is 2nd fiddle (Pippen), and who is a big (less exciting).
They do have the intangible motivation edge that in large part drove chicago 20 years ago, they have a great deal to prove and thats a real factor. But id be surprised if they won a playoff series. Very surprised
he actually became one of the best PF defenders in the league, and helped space the floor so lbj and wade could operate.
most of his fall off was castration.
I just happen to think that most of his statistical fall off was the result of being surrounded by better players than, say, the TJ Fords and Carlos Delfinos of the world. Hell, did any of his pre-Heat teammates even finish a year averaging more than 15 ppg?
ps..... love and kyrie will see number dips too. Doesnt mean regression. Just means less usage for obvious reasons. There is only one ball. Theyll traee stats for relevancy just like bosh did
there are many challenges facing them in year 1
Yeah, I would install the Spurs and Thunder as favorites above the Cavs at this point, even if they get Love
His NUMBERS fell off a cliff, not his play. He became more efficient and picked his spots better. Love already has a strong perimeter game, so if you are referring to straight PPG numbers, I still don't think he will average less than 23-24 Ppg.
He has looked fantastic on video practices Ive seen. Not only do I think he will make the roster, he will also start. They said he is by far the best defensive point guard on the roster, and that includes Wall.