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NFT: Missouri Teenager Shot & Killed by Police

EmpireWF : 8/11/2014 12:04 pm
18-year-old Michael Brown was killed by police over the weekend. It turns out he was unarmed and the preliminary story of what happened is all kinds of fishy.

Based on this LA Times story, Brown and a friend were walking in the middle of the street to Brown's grandmother's house. A patrol car pulled up and told them to get out of the street and some kind of scuffle ensued with Brown in the car. Then, Brown got out, put his hands up and was shot repeatedly?

Try to disregard all the ridiculous looting and vandalism by the opportunistic scum.

The officer who fired the shots was a 6-year vet of the force and is on paid administrative leave.
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ctc in ftmyers : 8/30/2014 6:46 pm : link
But "thug" is so obviously nigger nowadays..."

How did that happen? Not being facetious, really would like to know the history progression on how it evolved to that.

You don't have to help me.

What I want you to do 40 years from now is help, if you can, some 25 year old you don't know and may not agree with make it in life.

It's what it's all about.
It's truly amazing how some continue to decide to be  
Kulish29 : 8/30/2014 6:57 pm : link
completely ignorant and blind to this issue.
1/22/2014  
sphinx : 8/30/2014 7:04 pm : link
Deadspin ...
For the first time since breaking football, the media, and the internet, Richard Sherman addressed the reaction to his postgame interview, and his critics' use of the word "thug."

"The only reason it bothers me is because it seems like it's the accepted way of calling somebody the N-word nowadays. Because they know."

The day after the Seahawks' win, the word "thug" was uttered 625 times on American television, or more than on any single day in at least three years.

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blind to what issue  
PA Giant Fan : 8/30/2014 7:06 pm : link
Because the problem here is tying what is looking like a justified police shooting to police abuse of power. Unrelated and diminishes whatever moral high ground you could have taken. In other words it is counter productive which has been my main point all along. All this has done is make the racists and bigots view seem to have more credibility.
RE: It's truly amazing how some continue to decide to be  
ctc in ftmyers : 8/30/2014 7:12 pm : link
In comment 11833994 Kulish29 said:
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completely ignorant and blind to this issue.


Who decided this? When and where?

I personally don't use the word.

Please explain the origin of the instance of when it changed.

Sounds like some are just as ignorant as me on the subject but take it as Gospel.

If it's so simple, Please explain for us dummies.

No more no less.

RE: 1/22/2014  
Dunedin81 : 8/30/2014 7:17 pm : link
In comment 11834005 sphinx said:
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Deadspin ...
For the first time since breaking football, the media, and the internet, Richard Sherman addressed the reaction to his postgame interview, and his critics' use of the word "thug."

"The only reason it bothers me is because it seems like it's the accepted way of calling somebody the N-word nowadays. Because they know."

The day after the Seahawks' win, the word "thug" was uttered 625 times on American television, or more than on any single day in at least three years. continued ... - ( New Window )


I get the undertones, but people have used "thug life" since Tupac to describe a lifestyle, usually to brag about their own. The celebration of violence, of gangs, etc etc is implicit. If someone is over twitter flashing gang signs and handguns and a wad of cash is he not advertising that lifestyle? There are certainly some people that use that word interchangeably with "black" or with other more offensive words, but does one need to walk on eggshells around the fact that someone is very intentionally cultivating an image?
RE: RE: 1/22/2014  
ctc in ftmyers : 8/30/2014 7:33 pm : link
In comment 11834023 Dunedin81 said:
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In comment 11834005 sphinx said:


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Deadspin ...
For the first time since breaking football, the media, and the internet, Richard Sherman addressed the reaction to his postgame interview, and his critics' use of the word "thug."

"The only reason it bothers me is because it seems like it's the accepted way of calling somebody the N-word nowadays. Because they know."

The day after the Seahawks' win, the word "thug" was uttered 625 times on American television, or more than on any single day in at least three years. continued ... - ( New Window )



I get the undertones, but people have used "thug life" since Tupac to describe a lifestyle, usually to brag about their own. The celebration of violence, of gangs, etc etc is implicit. If someone is over twitter flashing gang signs and handguns and a wad of cash is he not advertising that lifestyle? There are certainly some people that use that word interchangeably with "black" or with other more offensive words, but does one need to walk on eggshells around the fact that someone is very intentionally cultivating an image?


That can be said about he mob of any nationality.

There in lies the problem.

We talking African American, Mexican, Italian, Irish, Russian, Asian, etc.

There are a lot of gangs vying to be thugs.
Several officers fired/retired following incidences...  
RC02XX : 8/31/2014 8:18 am : link
Our favorite officer "go fuck yourself" was fired along with the ranting racist police being forced to retire, and the idiot facebooking police was also fired.


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I certainly don't agree with all of it...  
Dunedin81 : 9/3/2014 4:31 pm : link
but this is an important background article on some of the racial tensions in suburban St. Louis.
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whoa, how is this kosher??  
Greg from LI : 9/3/2014 4:41 pm : link
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The Florissant prosecutor is Ronald Brockmeyer, who also has a criminal defense practice in St. Charles County, and who is also the chief municipal prosecutor for the towns of Vinita Park and Dellwood. He is also the judge – yes, the judge — in both Ferguson and Breckenridge Hills.
RE: I certainly don't agree with all of it...  
montanagiant : 9/3/2014 6:15 pm : link
In comment 11839484 Dunedin81 said:
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but this is an important background article on some of the racial tensions in suburban St. Louis. Link - ( New Window )


That is a fascinating article..
RE: Several officers fired/retired following incidences...  
BurberryManning : 9/3/2014 7:44 pm : link
In comment 11834435 RC02XX said:
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Our favorite officer "go fuck yourself" was fired along with the ranting racist police being forced to retire, and the idiot facebooking police was also fired.
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"He's one of my best friends but we have to do what's best for the city," Jimenez said. "It doesn't mean he's a bad guy, but he made a mistake after 20 years of solving crimes."- Police Chief Jimenez

Comments including that of which I've posted above to me epitomize the attitude that many of us law-abiding private citizens find offensive. In one statement Jimenez marginalizes the egregiously trampling of a citizen's rights in what quite easily could have been a life-or-death situation because his colleague merely did his job for 20 years.

You mean to tell me that someone threatening to kill an unarmed citizen while aiming an assault rifle at them, all while demonstrating the clarity of mind to conceal his identity, should be *gasp* actually be held accountable for his actions? After having done his job for 20 years?

Imagine if we gave privately employed citizens the same benefit of the doubt after 20 years of experience.
A local example of police struggling to control..police?  
BurberryManning : 9/3/2014 7:45 pm : link
This is embarrassing
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RE: whoa, how is this kosher??  
Dunedin81 : 9/3/2014 9:39 pm : link
In comment 11839497 Greg from LI said:
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The Florissant prosecutor is Ronald Brockmeyer, who also has a criminal defense practice in St. Charles County, and who is also the chief municipal prosecutor for the towns of Vinita Park and Dellwood. He is also the judge – yes, the judge — in both Ferguson and Breckenridge Hills.



In Virginia you see substitute judges in lower court who have criminal defense as part of their practice and I've seen one who also worked as a contracted attorney for Social Services (which isn't prosecutorial but serves a similar function in civil DSS proceedings). It sounds damning but I really don't notice a difference. They're not usually as efficient as the full timers but they do a pretty good job. You also see part-time prosecutors who might do some defense work as part of their practice (though never in the same jurisdiction). Most of them will conflict out at the first sign of a conflict because the stakes are just too high if they get habeused.
RE: Can  
Cam in MO : 9/3/2014 9:45 pm : link
In comment 11833974 Big Al said:
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you show me the post where I said he was a crazed thug ready to kill a cop? I don't recall saying that.


Sure, it's right here:

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He was
Big Al : 8/30/2014 6:44 pm : link : reply
a crazed thug ready to kill a cop.


You're getting old, buddy.


Cam  
Big Al : 9/3/2014 10:15 pm : link
Are you trying to set the loose cannon off with that edited post?
Police Chief Jimenez still doesn't get it  
WideRight : 9/4/2014 8:54 am : link
When a guy f's up, and Chief's actions admitted as much because he accepted Officer Fuck Yourself's resignation, then an accountable organization would take responsibility to make sure it doesn't happen again.

As Dune noted, it speaks towards the culture that precipitated these events
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another thing that shocked me in that article  
Greg from LI : 9/4/2014 8:57 am : link
What the green hell is an "occupancy permit"??? You have to get a license just to move into town? How on earth is THAT constitutional?
RE: Cam  
Cam in MO : 9/4/2014 9:04 am : link
In comment 11839888 Big Al said:
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Are you trying to set the loose cannon off with that edited post?


Hee hee.

Just so that everyone knows- I completely made up that quote. The date and time is exactly the same as the comment I replied to.

Just waiting for someone to not notice so I can sit back and enjoy the fireworks (not really. Ok, really).


RE: RE: Cam  
RC02XX : 9/4/2014 9:08 am : link
In comment 11840132 Cam in MO said:
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In comment 11839888 Big Al said:


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Are you trying to set the loose cannon off with that edited post?



Hee hee.

Just so that everyone knows- I completely made up that quote. The date and time is exactly the same as the comment I replied to.

Just waiting for someone to not notice so I can sit back and enjoy the fireworks (not really. Ok, really).



Bored at work, are we?
Sadly, no.  
Cam in MO : 9/4/2014 9:11 am : link
Hence the planting of the bomb so that I can bask in the carnage at a later date.


RE: Sadly, no.  
RC02XX : 9/4/2014 9:18 am : link
In comment 11840144 Cam in MO said:
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Hence the planting of the bomb so that I can bask in the carnage at a later date.



What if the thread goes kaputz before you get a chance to read it? That's always the danger of inciting unrest on a thread then taking off for a while.
'Workers who were witnesses provide new perspective  
sphinx : 9/6/2014 11:18 pm : link
on Michael Brown shooting'
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