Do they both make it? Who has the edge as of today? I knew very little if anything about either guy less than a month ago. They have both been mentioned a lot.
Washington's physical profile and big guy skillset makes him a more unique player which gives him a slight edge over Harris imo. So if I had to pick between the two, I think Washington is more likely to make the team.
But Harris has supposedly been the most consistent WR on the entire team in camp, tough to cut the guy when he is showing that kind of ability. I really don't know if he can keep both. Luckily, we have a few more weeks to figure it out.
RE: and i doubt that happens though because i dont think
If Harris can be a decent gunner, he will definitely make the team. They need more good gunners to go with Zach Bowman, and he looks like the only one of the WRs that can contribute there. JJ certainly can't. Harris can also return kicks and punts, so he's the real deal for special teams.
Washington has kick-off and punt return experience in college, and with his hands, size, and speed, he ought to get a shot at the return jobs this summer. Unless he comes apart down the stretch, he should make the team regardless. He's the biggest receiver they have (the long awaited Plax replacement?) and has too much potential to ignore after what he's shown so far this summer.
It would be criminal to dump either of these guys in favor of the chronic under-achiever Jernigan or the obviously diminished Manningham. However, JJ is still not completely out of the picture.
It currently appears that the 6th and last WR spot (Cruz, Randle, and Beckham are the first three) will probably come down to JJ or Preston Parker, and it could go either way based on what happens in the next three weeks. There are arguments for and against each. I think Parker is a little bit ahead right now based on both history in the league and better special teams ability and play. But it is still close and definitely could change. And Talley is still sort of in the picture, too, albeit farther back.
As for Manningham, I was really happy to have him back, but it is becoming very apparent that he is nowhere near what he once was, and he probably doesn't make the team. However, if he doesn't catch on elsewhere, they should keep his number handy just in case the injury bug strikes the WRs and they need him down the road somewhere.
RE: RE: and i doubt that happens though because i dont think
They may keep only 5 LBs. I think we keep at least 6 WRs and 7 if they think Holliday can be a game changer on punt returns. If OB3 shows something on punt returns then Holliday and Parker are gone.
Reese is pissed off Coughlin took so long to start using him.
Maybe Coughlin's pissed off Reese drafted him. I know I am.
Not starting this again but JJ is a Coughlin, Sullivan and Reese guy. Everybody was on board with that pick, I remember pre-draft discussions and threads on here about JJ being a great fit for the Giants after SS injury/contract issues. I think that was one of the reasons Mara singled him out last year.
I think it's very possible. I've never been a fan of Jernigan. I hated the pick, and nothing he's done in the past three years has made me change my mind about him. I'd cut him in a New York minute...John Mara be damned.
I hate to say it about a guy who came up big for us in 2011, but Manningham's time has passed. I think the knee injuries have taken their toll...he's just not the same guy. It's a damned shame.
Agree completely with Klaatu - Jernigan is way too inconsistent and cannot stay healthy. Sadly, Manninham is done.
I'd like to see both Harris and Washington included in final 53 - also think Giants should take a serious look at Travis Harvey - has consistently gotten open in practice and preseason and caught everything thrown his way.
One on one move he put on Prince in practice was best move of camp.
If Harris can be a decent gunner, he will definitely make the team. They need more good gunners to go with Zach Bowman, and he looks like the only one of the WRs that can contribute there. JJ certainly can't. Harris can also return kicks and punts, so he's the real deal for special teams.
Washington has kick-off and punt return experience in college, and with his hands, size, and speed, he ought to get a shot at the return jobs this summer. Unless he comes apart down the stretch, he should make the team regardless. He's the biggest receiver they have (the long awaited Plax replacement?) and has too much potential to ignore after what he's shown so far this summer.
It would be criminal to dump either of these guys in favor of the chronic under-achiever Jernigan or the obviously diminished Manningham. However, JJ is still not completely out of the picture.
It currently appears that the 6th and last WR spot (Cruz, Randle, and Beckham are the first three) will probably come down to JJ or Preston Parker, and it could go either way based on what happens in the next three weeks. There are arguments for and against each. I think Parker is a little bit ahead right now based on both history in the league and better special teams ability and play. But it is still close and definitely could change. And Talley is still sort of in the picture, too, albeit farther back.
As for Manningham, I was really happy to have him back, but it is becoming very apparent that he is nowhere near what he once was, and he probably doesn't make the team. However, if he doesn't catch on elsewhere, they should keep his number handy just in case the injury bug strikes the WRs and they need him down the road somewhere.
JJ needs to go along with Manningham - Harris and Washington stay - you forgot Travis Harvey who has performed better in camp and preseason games than Parker.
But Harris has supposedly been the most consistent WR on the entire team in camp, tough to cut the guy when he is showing that kind of ability. I really don't know if he can keep both. Luckily, we have a few more weeks to figure it out.
I'd be surprised if they keep 2 FBs. Sounds like a better chance they don't keep any.
I can easily see:
2 QB
7 WR
9 OL
4 RB
1 FB
2 TE
Total: 24
9 DL
6 LB
6 CB
5 S
Total: 26
3 Specials (basically 4 if Holliday is 1 of the WR)
The question of who returns punts/kicks is clearly relevant.
Really?
Maybe Coughlin's pissed off Reese drafted him. I know I am.
Washington has kick-off and punt return experience in college, and with his hands, size, and speed, he ought to get a shot at the return jobs this summer. Unless he comes apart down the stretch, he should make the team regardless. He's the biggest receiver they have (the long awaited Plax replacement?) and has too much potential to ignore after what he's shown so far this summer.
It would be criminal to dump either of these guys in favor of the chronic under-achiever Jernigan or the obviously diminished Manningham. However, JJ is still not completely out of the picture.
It currently appears that the 6th and last WR spot (Cruz, Randle, and Beckham are the first three) will probably come down to JJ or Preston Parker, and it could go either way based on what happens in the next three weeks. There are arguments for and against each. I think Parker is a little bit ahead right now based on both history in the league and better special teams ability and play. But it is still close and definitely could change. And Talley is still sort of in the picture, too, albeit farther back.
As for Manningham, I was really happy to have him back, but it is becoming very apparent that he is nowhere near what he once was, and he probably doesn't make the team. However, if he doesn't catch on elsewhere, they should keep his number handy just in case the injury bug strikes the WRs and they need him down the road somewhere.
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You would be able to dress two FBs.
I'd be surprised if they keep 2 FBs. Sounds like a better chance they don't keep any.
I can easily see:
2 QB
7 WR
9 OL
4 RB
1 FB
2 TE
Total: 24
9 DL
6 LB
6 CB
5 S
Total: 26
3 Specials (basically 4 if Holliday is 1 of the WR)
Look for 3 Tight Ends, not because they are worth it but its clear they being used heavily by the new OC.
Probably have to lose a WR or CB, whomever contributes least on Specials.
I think they both make it.
They may keep only 5 LBs. I think we keep at least 6 WRs and 7 if they think Holliday can be a game changer on punt returns. If OB3 shows something on punt returns then Holliday and Parker are gone.
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You would be able to dress two FBs.
I'd be surprised if they keep 2 FBs. Sounds like a better chance they don't keep any.
I can easily see:
2 QB
7 WR
9 OL
4 RB
1 FB
2 TE
Total: 24
9 DL
6 LB
6 CB
5 S
Total: 26
3 Specials (basically 4 if Holliday is 1 of the WR)
You're offense adds up to 25
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Reese is pissed off Coughlin took so long to start using him.
Maybe Coughlin's pissed off Reese drafted him. I know I am.
Not starting this again but JJ is a Coughlin, Sullivan and Reese guy. Everybody was on board with that pick, I remember pre-draft discussions and threads on here about JJ being a great fit for the Giants after SS injury/contract issues. I think that was one of the reasons Mara singled him out last year.
But maybe they ought to try Washington on the return unit, seeing as to how he can do
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But Harris and Washington do?
I think it's very possible. I've never been a fan of Jernigan. I hated the pick, and nothing he's done in the past three years has made me change my mind about him. I'd cut him in a New York minute...John Mara be damned.
I hate to say it about a guy who came up big for us in 2011, but Manningham's time has passed. I think the knee injuries have taken their toll...he's just not the same guy. It's a damned shame.
Agree completely with Klaatu - Jernigan is way too inconsistent and cannot stay healthy. Sadly, Manninham is done.
I'd like to see both Harris and Washington included in final 53 - also think Giants should take a serious look at Travis Harvey - has consistently gotten open in practice and preseason and caught everything thrown his way.
One on one move he put on Prince in practice was best move of camp.
Might as well give the young guys a chance if they are performing in live action.
Washington has kick-off and punt return experience in college, and with his hands, size, and speed, he ought to get a shot at the return jobs this summer. Unless he comes apart down the stretch, he should make the team regardless. He's the biggest receiver they have (the long awaited Plax replacement?) and has too much potential to ignore after what he's shown so far this summer.
It would be criminal to dump either of these guys in favor of the chronic under-achiever Jernigan or the obviously diminished Manningham. However, JJ is still not completely out of the picture.
It currently appears that the 6th and last WR spot (Cruz, Randle, and Beckham are the first three) will probably come down to JJ or Preston Parker, and it could go either way based on what happens in the next three weeks. There are arguments for and against each. I think Parker is a little bit ahead right now based on both history in the league and better special teams ability and play. But it is still close and definitely could change. And Talley is still sort of in the picture, too, albeit farther back.
As for Manningham, I was really happy to have him back, but it is becoming very apparent that he is nowhere near what he once was, and he probably doesn't make the team. However, if he doesn't catch on elsewhere, they should keep his number handy just in case the injury bug strikes the WRs and they need him down the road somewhere.
JJ needs to go along with Manningham - Harris and Washington stay - you forgot Travis Harvey who has performed better in camp and preseason games than Parker.
Might as well give the young guys a chance if they are performing in live action.
COMPLETELY AGREE!