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Odell Beckham...

blueblood'11 : 8/13/2014 7:52 am
has hardly been on the field, a rookie nonetheless, hasn't even gotten his feet wet to NFL pace of play, and is making proclamations about the offense. I've seen him play at the college and if it translates to the pro game look out. However, I think it better he let's his play do the talking. At least for the time being.

We all know Tom is not happy he hasn't been able to participate and somehow I think Tom, while he may like the kid has confidence of his convictions, would like to see something more and whole lot of it before the kid takes to soothsaying.

There's enough pressure so as it is installing a new offense with a first time OC and the added pressure that comes with high expectations after a dismal previous season. The first thing I thought of was Vince Young referring to the Eagles as the dream team and it all went downhill from there.

I agree this isn't quite in that category but talk about adding to the pressure. If I'm a veteran I'm telling the kid to shut up and play. Earn your stripes and then if you feel the need to talk you earned the right.



Coughlin needs to bring back the  
ZogZerg : 8/13/2014 8:01 am : link
"Talk is Cheap" slogan..

When a rookie WR who hasn't even practiced is yapping then it's time to take action.
You guys really need to stop complaining  
Blue Blood : 8/13/2014 8:03 am : link
you want people confident in themselves and their ability and their team but you dont want them to express ANY of the confidence or ability AT ALL..

Please.. get over it..
Yeah confidence is a bad thing because if you are  
Headhunter : 8/13/2014 8:04 am : link
confident and you don't have success, people will write nasty stuff about you here and you will become a whipping boy and then they are going to be calls that you are a bust and Aaron Donald and Martin going to the Hall of Fame will put you in Ray Handley territory around here and you and Cedric Jones will rank 1-2 in all time Giant Bustdom.

So don't be confident, be invisible
You can be confident without....  
Crispino : 8/13/2014 8:12 am : link
making public proclamations about it. Ever heard of "quiet confidence"?
It's a VERY slow sports news cycle right now  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 8/13/2014 8:15 am : link
That this minor comment makes headlines is proof of that.

This isn't the bulletin board material you're looking for
Why?  
Headhunter : 8/13/2014 8:17 am : link
I like overconfidence,loud and brash types , Gus who put a target on their backs. Guys not afraid, believe in themselves and don't care who knows it.
Nobody thinks this is bulletin board material.  
Crispino : 8/13/2014 8:18 am : link
It's just dumb for a kid who hasn't been able to get on the field to start making proclamations of greatness for a struggling offense. It's not that big a deal and I think we can all agree on that.
we discovered  
SBlue46 : 8/13/2014 8:20 am : link
Washington and harris by his absense...and may motivate
starters
Remember all the hand wringing about Prince Amukamara  
Headhunter : 8/13/2014 8:22 am : link
after we was drafted and the lack of confidence in his statements and his lack of aggressiveness? I do
Amen,  
CT Charlie : 8/13/2014 8:31 am : link
Headhunter. I admire men who let their actions speak for themselves. Navy Seals come to mind.
Yeah, nothing to see here..  
Big Blue '56 : 8/13/2014 8:32 am : link
Further on Prince: Remember the "damage" etc he was going to suffer being thrown in the ice tub?
Most of what you read/hear, is absolutely nothing and blows over quickly, UNLESS it's ongoing..
the "talk is cheap"...  
Necro : 8/13/2014 8:33 am : link
crowd, are the same ones at the games saying "down in front" on 3rd downs. I'm certain of it.


I love a little talking and boastfulness. I remember when Plaxico predicted a NY Giants win in SB 43 and Tom Brady laughed at it. They both talk, neither was wrong in doing so, but maybe that lit a little fire inside the Giants defense that day. Nothing wrong with confidence.
Yeah how terrible. He said he thought that his offensive team  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/13/2014 8:34 am : link
could be among the best in the league.

Discipline him.
Talk is cheap  
manh george : 8/13/2014 8:40 am : link
Silence is cheaper.

And if I get to choose whom I want to shut up, I will pay extra.
that talk is cheap crowd on BBI  
UConn4523 : 8/13/2014 8:42 am : link
is absolutely insufferable. Had we been 12-4 last year no one would care. But given the upward battle you guys feel better about yourselves if the players just don't say anything, likely so the disappointment is diminished a bit should we not have a good year again.

That's such an awful way to root for a team. I'm happy these guys are confident. As long as they aren't calling other players out or taking trash-talking to Twitter, i'm fine with it. The entire team isn't going to go mute, it never has, and it never will.
This is a man's game  
Headhunter : 8/13/2014 8:44 am : link
played by physical freaks that are huge,fast and have violent intentions, you want wallflowers?
can you at least post the quote  
robbieballs2003 : 8/13/2014 8:49 am : link
if you are going to complain about it? I have no idea what you are talking about.
robbie  
Klaatu : 8/13/2014 8:53 am : link
Here's the story in the Daily News.
RE: can you at least post the quote  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/13/2014 8:54 am : link
In comment 11805224 robbieballs2003 said:
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if you are going to complain about it? I have no idea what you are talking about.



It was disgusting and shameful. Just look at this.

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- No one has watched the New York Giants' offense more than first-round draft pick Odell Beckham Jr., who's been watching practice from the sidelines since pulling his hamstring on the first day of camp. And what Beckham has seen so far has him extremely optimistic.

"It has potential to be, if not the best, one of the best in the league," Beckham said before Giants practice Tuesday. "When you have a receiving corps like we do and a great quarterback along with the backfield and the tight ends and much improvement from the offensive line, I don't see anything but being one of the best in the league."
Young man with tons of confidence makes a comment...  
okiegiant : 8/13/2014 8:55 am : link
hand wringing fans over-react!

Film at 11!

Same old same old.
#1  
area junc : 8/13/2014 8:57 am : link
he needs to be a #1 WR, otherwise we got caught taking a SportsCenter guy instead of a trench player, a la david wilson
Let's just get to practicing fully, Odell  
ANGPASS : 8/13/2014 8:59 am : link
One miracle at a time
TTH  
UConn4523 : 8/13/2014 9:00 am : link
what a despicable quote, no wonder everyone is up in arms. Just horrid!
Yeah,  
robbieballs2003 : 8/13/2014 9:08 am : link
what a horrendous answer. How dare he say that the offense has POTENTIAL and he can see it being one of the best offenses in the league. There is a difference between confidence and cockiness. This is not him being cocky. This is confidence. Nothing to see here.
What games was he watching?  
Gman11 : 8/13/2014 9:14 am : link
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and a great quarterback along with the backfield and the tight ends


He really meant that the tight ends are "great?" Ummmm...OK.
STFU, BECKHEM!!!!  
arcarsenal : 8/13/2014 9:15 am : link
.
All this  
yankfan : 8/13/2014 9:35 am : link
"bulletin board material" is crap, plain and simple. You think these guys don't watch tv? Read the papers? Twitter? It's a technological world......EVERYBODY talks. EVERYBODY.
Some of you guys overreact about any little thing.
I don't see how this is any different from  
BSIMatt : 8/13/2014 9:53 am : link
the confidence exuded by David Wilson his rookie year, or Hakeem Nicks his rookie year, or JPP his rookie year. Wilson had high expectations, Nicks said his goal was offensive rookie of the year. You're talking about the 12th pick in the draft, a guy loaded with ability, a 21 year old kid...he's going to be optimistic.
You want a model of true confidence without yapping away...  
gotti69 : 8/13/2014 9:59 am : link
MARK BAVARO
I'm sure you had a point to make.  
Randy in CT : 8/13/2014 10:14 am : link
But for the life of me, I don't know what it was.
Blueblood: At least you spelled BECKHAM correctly  
Jupiter : 8/13/2014 10:15 am : link
Unlike some of the other brain-dead posters who still think that we are talking about the TE or some other Beck***.
I like what he said  
mrvax : 8/13/2014 10:44 am : link
It makes me think the kid is very excited about what he sees around him. It's new to him and he feels like something really good can happen.
I try to think about what is generating his need  
nicky43 : 8/13/2014 10:54 am : link
to talk like that and it's probably nothing more than feeling bad that he can't show his stuff yet so all he really has now is talk.
I like what he said as well. Most of commentary was  
Jimmy Googs : 8/13/2014 10:55 am : link
about the team and being excited to play and compete.

And any of you thinking this is Bulletin Board Material, let me point out that Beckham mentioned our Tight Ends in his comment so you know nobody is taking this too seriously...
Not a big deal  
deadkurtrulz : 8/13/2014 10:55 am : link
I want him to believe the offense can put up some points. Rookies say stupid things. Odell has no idea what it takes to be successful in the NFL. I want to see how much talking he will be doing when he takes his first big hit. Right now he thinks looking good in practice is enough. I hope at some point Beckham will actually play in a game and he will learn to watch what he says to the press. If he is a player and starts making big plays no one will care what he says.
Look  
PaulN : 8/13/2014 10:56 am : link
At the (Look at me BBI thread starters) getting thier panties in a bunch, cool off girls, it will be Ok.
With the exception of Rolle on D  
djstat : 8/13/2014 10:57 am : link
We do not have any sort of brash personalities. Its kind of refreshing
RE: the  
bradshaw44 : 8/13/2014 10:58 am : link
In comment 11805207 Necro said:
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crowd, are the same ones at the games saying "down in front" on 3rd downs. I'm certain of it.


I love a little talking and boastfulness. I remember when Plaxico predicted a NY Giants win in SB 43 and Tom Brady laughed at it. They both talk, neither was wrong in doing so, but maybe that lit a little fire inside the Giants defense that day. Nothing wrong with confidence.



Damn, we've beaten the Patriots 3 times in the Superbowl:-) 42
Well I still think hes going to be a playmaker for us  
BillyBoy8384 : 8/13/2014 11:01 am : link
Im just saying Kelvin Benjamin and Brandin Cooks are supposedly looking great with their perspective teams. Aaron Donald has been described going against the 1's as "unblockable"....

we really need this pick to pan out. I believe with his mom being an olympian sprinter and his dad being an athlete means he has it in the genes , we just need him to be a playmaker. We actually need him to workout big time. we selected him just for this new offense and for Eli to have another burner then just Cruz.

I am a little worried how I am reading that Brandin Cooks is looking like a steal in N.O. and Benjamin is becoming a go to guy.

We cant afford to miss on the 12th overall pick. We already lost David Wilson(1st Rd) our safety for "years to come' Kenny Phillips(1st RD) wished he had panned out alot longer then he did. Clint Sintim (early 2nd) was a bust.

We need Beckham to show something the last 2 preseason games. I hope hes adjusting to the new offense, or rather learning the offense while he sits. We need him starting with Detroit. McAdoo is obviously showing vanilla schemes for other teams film(everyone is over-reacting like the media is, the Giants dont want to show their whole offense away to go on film) It will be so much harder to game plan against.

Also what is up with Mario Manningham? The Giants FO knew it would take awhile and still signed him. Marcus Harris and Corey Washington look hungry and deserving of a roster spot. That would mean Mario is cut. Why would the Giants sign him if they knew he wouldnt be 100 percent until mid-September?
I wish HArris and Washington played better on specials. Washington has the length to block punts with DaMonster.

Anyway, we need Odell Beckham to be a game changer for us. A 12th overall pick at WR must make an impact. Keenan Allen did it for SD last year as a rookie. DeAndre Hopkins did it for Houston. I think he has big time playmaking ability but he needs to get on the field.

A healthy Beckham will do good things for the Giants and Eli Manning if he can stay on the field. I hope hes not a china doll. Nothing in college seemed to indicate that. Once hes 100 percent with speed, he needs to take extra reps with Eli throwing to him. we saw last year what an offseason of not throwing and catching can do to a QB-WR combo. Eli was way off sync with Cruz(holdout) and Randle(mental mistakes) bc he didnt have much time to throw to them in training camp bc of the bargaining agreement that prevented teams from practicing like evry other year. And Eli was off. He needs to have Odell out there with the 1's running routes so Eli can trust him when it counts.
RE: Well I still think hes going to be a playmaker for us  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/13/2014 11:09 am : link
In comment 11805462 BillyBoy8384 said:
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Also what is up with Mario Manningham? The Giants FO knew it would take awhile and still signed him. Marcus Harris and Corey Washington look hungry and deserving of a roster spot. That would mean Mario is cut. Why would the Giants sign him if they knew he wouldnt be 100 percent until mid-September?
I wish HArris and Washington played better on specials. Washington has the length to block punts with DaMonster.


They're not really invested in Manningham. They took a flier on him coming back 100%.

Three months ago this team wasn't exactly well stocked at WR.
Well,  
Doomster : 8/13/2014 11:38 am : link
"When you have a receiving corps like we do and a great quarterback along with the backfield and the tight ends and much improvement from the offensive line...."

What team is he watching from the sidelines? TE's? OL play?

Outside of Jernigan, has Eli completed a pass to a wr?
As for Mario,  
Doomster : 8/13/2014 11:40 am : link
I was hoping that his knee had recovered.....but when it took 3 steps instead of one to make a cut, I have my doubts....
Yappy kid,  
oldog : 8/14/2014 12:17 pm : link
can`t believe he thinks he knows better than BBI.
What does  
Nick in LA : 8/14/2014 12:32 pm : link
his cage look like?
ODB:  
natefit : 8/14/2014 1:15 pm : link
Get healthy and stay healthy. Make plays. Then u can yap 24/7
Goodness some of you posters are miserable  
CruzShip52 : 8/14/2014 1:17 pm : link
Shut up and play? And maybe be out the entire year for pushing his hammy? if he watches the offense he learns it just as fast as being in it, he has 3 weeks left before week 1, and an entire 16 week season...geez
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