With the emergence of Corey Washington, Marcus Harris and Preston Parker, how many WR's will the team carry and which WR's will they choose?
I think at this point, we can all agree that Cruz, Randle and Beckham are locks.
That leaves 2 or 3 roster spots for Corey Washington, Marcus Harris, Preston Parker, Mario Manningham, Trindon Holliday, Travis Harvey, Julian Talley and Jerrel Jernigan.
I think at this point, Holliday and Manningham are in serious danger of being cut. Holliday hasn't seen the field in weeks and when he was on the field, he didn't exactly impress. Unfortunately, Manningham just isn't healthy. He doesn't look like he has what it takes.
I think Harvey and Talley have some potential, but just not enough to make this team. They could be practice squad candidates if they are eligible.
So that leaves Washington, Harris, Jernigan and Parker for 3 roster spots.
I think Washington and Harris have done enough to this point to earn roster spots. So with that in mind, it will come down to Jernigan and Parker for 1 spot.
On the surface, it looks like a no brainer; Jernigan. But if you look a tad deeper, Parker has done some nice things. Most importantly, he is the primary punt returner and he has done a nice job there. Anyone else including Charles James and Jernigan have not gotten the job done. The injury to Jernigan also complicates things.
So even though Washington and Harris are still questions, but I think the WR's as of today would be Cruz, Randle, Beckham, Washington and Harris.
I really wonder if the team could keep Preston Parker in favor of Jerrel Jernigan.
And with a new offense this year, Jernigan doesn't really have as much of a "veteran" advantage over the new guys, as he's learning the offense too
Jernigan came on strong at the end of last season and has had a good camp.
hes caught the ball well but theres lots of competition and he hasnt made the big plays. cruz almost got cut after his ridiculous preseason too, harris has to do more imo
The next day he hurt his hamstring during a punt return drill.
I think they keep Washington and Harris spends another year on the practice squad.
I believe the other veteran WR will Manningham or Parker. Parker has been somewhat productive and is a solid punt returner and healthier so has the edge.
The guy I hope they keep is actually Julian Talley. He runs great routes and can play ST coverage as well. Not sure if he would be eligible for practice squad again this year.
Cruz, OB, Randle, JJ, Washington ... and I'd wager they keep Holliday over the others just for his big play abilities ... Mario's on the outside looking in at the moment, but perhaps he can get hot late in camp as he's got the veteran experience coaches tend to cling to.
According to Tweets and reports, in the first week of training camp before his injury, Holliday was dropping passes, not running the correct routes and I think he may have fumbled as well. Unfortunately, I cannot find the articles detailing those practices.
Either way, his injury may prevent him from making the team.
Both have looked good in live action.
As a blocker I was impressed with Harris as well.
With that in mind, I don't think it has to be Harris OR Washington.
I think Jernigan is obviously the favorite over Parker, but the idea of Parker as a punt returner and possession guy is very intriguing.
I like Talley a lot, but I just think there is too much talent in front of him to make this team.
Both have looked good in live action.
As a blocker I was impressed with Harris as well.
Because BBI is often a game to game decision-making site..We'll see who "emerges" this week..Probably Adrien Robinson, so he'll become our definite future
that is huge in tom coughlin's book, as it should be
RE: holliday - he was signed as a return specialist and thats where he'll make the team, or not. agreed the injury could cost him, sounds like we plan using beckham on returns rookie year
Marcus Harris has done everything asked of him, including working as a gunner on special teams. He runs good routes, gets open, and catches the ball. If he hasn't shown "big play ability," well, I've got two words for you: Steve Smith.
On the other hand, Corey Washington has shown big play ability, and he deserves to make the team, too.
Locks:
Cruz
OBJ
Randle
Jernigan
Marcus Harris has done everything asked of him, including working as a gunner on special teams. He runs good routes, gets open, and catches the ball. If he hasn't shown "big play ability," well, I've got two words for you: Steve Smith.
On the other hand, Corey Washington has shown big play ability, and he deserves to make the team, too.
This, great post
What's laughable is how it's ignored, yet Washington's performance against 2's & 3's is supposed to hold more weight.
Yes, laughable.
He is 6' 4"
Denvers 4th WR caught 16 passes
NO 4th WR caught 16 passes
Detroit 4th caught 13 passes
If they truly are going to throw to the RB and TE, the 4th WR is not going to get chances unless injuries happen
I think Jernigan is a safer pick because he has done it on occasion, while Washington and Harris are still unknowns.
With that in mind, Parker also has done it on this level with 27 games, 44 catches, 596 yards and 3 TD's. Actually, Parker has more production than Jernigan with 32 games, 32 catches, 351 yards and 2 TD's.
If Parker has more production as a WR, and has better special teams ability, why not consider Parker over Jernigan?
The reason you keep Washington over Harris is his measurable and ball-skills. You can't coach those traits nor do you find them easily. Harris may run better routes and even have better hands but there are a lot more Soup Harris' out there than Corey Washington's.
There are still 3 preseason games to go so let's see how this plays out over the next few weeks but if the season started tomorrow, there is no doubt Washington and Parker make the final 53.
JJ is a pain the ass actually. The opportunity is just sitting there for him but he seems to be falling back into the crowd again.
It would be nice to see Washington and Harris step up and grab spots, but I bet JJ sticks too because he is a draft pick (for whatever that is worth...).
Has he done anything at WR for us in these past two games?
Has he done anything at WR for us in these past two games?
Jimmy Googs, you sir are clueless. You had no idea Parker has played in the NFL and been fairly productive as a receiver? He is a veteran who was brought in for his experience, not some rookie free agent.
This is his first season as a Giant.
(All with Tampa Bay)
27 games, 44 catches, 596 yards and 3 TD's.
3 rushing attempts, 11 yards and 0 TD's.
27 punt returns for 230 yards and 0 TD's.
30 kick returns for 617 yards and 0 TD's.
Jernigan: 25 years old, 5'8" 190 pounds
32 games, 32 catches, 351 yards and 2 TD's.
3 rushing attempts, 63 yards and 1 TD.
0 punt returns for 0 yards and 0 TD's.
20 kick returns for 492 yards and 0 TD's.
NYGmen58 : 10:16 am : link : reply
(unless he were traded) should not be included in this conversation...
Piss up a rope, douchebag, I'll include myself in any conversation I damn well please.
He was the 4th WR all year that had a chance to step up and be the #3 after Cruz got injured, and he did step up. Meaningless or not, he came in and made plays when our offense had shit.
Dude, he emerged because Cruz got hurt and he got a shot. It should absolutely not be overlooked. It doesn't mean he's a breakout star, but you can't just overlook 3 good games in a row like that.
This is his first season as a Giant.
Now that I spent 5 minutes looking him up, I see he is was undrafted FA of the highly regarded Tampa Bay Bucs team and he hasn't caught a pass since 2011.
Your right...how in the world should I not have memorized this level of production. Chucklehead.
All 3 of Harris, Washington & Parker are under contract thru at least 2015 with Washington being under contract thru 2016. (I assume Harris would be a RFA at that point?)
All things being equal I'd rather keep the "cost controlled" under contract guys before keeping JJ & Holliday.
That said, I'd bet NYG keeps 6, including JJ, with an outside shot at keeping 7 if Holliday makes the team.
The fact that Jernigan is injured and Parker plays much better special teams that Jernigan works in favor of Parker.
With that said, Jernigan is known by this organization and coaching staff (and is about two years younger as well) which works in his favor.
As a pure receiver, I think Jernigan is on the verge of being eclipsed by both Harris and Washington at this point.
will the team be comfortable keeping 3 WR's (Beckham, Washington and Harris) with NO game experience?
Coughlin has always been partial to his veterans....
Should the team keep Cox or Gaskins over one of these guys? Or a 4th TE? Absolutely No. Nobody is signing any of those guys if we cut them. If injuries occur and force you to sign someone at those spots, you can sign someone just as good as those guys off the street.
And, no I do not keep Holliday. Demps can handle kickoffs and OBJ can handle punt returns.
Cruz.
Randle.
OBJ.
JJ.
Harris.
Washington.
Maybe someone on the PS. MM and Holiday are gone. MM is too injured, and Holiday has shown nothing. If you want to argue that this is the last year for JJ, and that he is probably another Reese bust, I won't necessarily disagree. He did come on a little at the end of last year, but never should anything beforehand. But I don't see him being cut this year.
The bigger problem is not who are the #5 and #6 WRs, but who is the #1 TE. Who knows?