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What if TE Adrien Robinson busts out?

SGMen : 8/18/2014 7:52 pm
It appears that Robinson made sight adjustments on his two big grabs against Indy. This comes from QB Nassib.

If he has finally learned the game maybe he can come on and be a force? He has the physical tools.

If so, this offense is totally different. Has anyone else seen anything in practice that would make you think he just might be getting special? We could really, really use a bust out of the blue (ala Cruz) guy this year.
I haven't seen the replays  
CT Charlie : 8/18/2014 7:54 pm : link
but I saw him get stood up when attempting to block. Not good.
Rather then  
DavidinBMNY : 8/18/2014 7:55 pm : link
Bust?
Doesn't matter if he gets stood up ….  
Manny in CA : 8/18/2014 7:57 pm : link
Happens to Hynoski all the time, as long as he doesn't whiff, and let his man go around him.
What happens if I win the lottery?  
Essex : 8/18/2014 7:59 pm : link
. . .

Not trying to be a jerk, but if he busts out, which I doubt, it will obviously be good. Just don't count on it.
He looked really good on that last drive  
Headhunter : 8/18/2014 8:03 pm : link
I'm sorry for being positive it goes against the culture here
I just saw a heck of an athlete on those catches  
SGMen : 8/18/2014 8:05 pm : link
He looked quick, powerful and just plain fast.

I am really looking forward to seeing him play this week against the Jets.

Only way he bust out  
ANGPASS : 8/18/2014 8:05 pm : link
is if our Oline gives eli time and the WRs are making plays. He is good enough to have a ballard like role and be an unsung hero for 3 or 4 games in the year making plays own the field in crunch time when defenses are not expecting him
RE: Only way he bust out  
SGMen : 8/18/2014 8:07 pm : link
In comment 11813479 ANGPASS said:
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is if our Oline gives eli time and the WRs are making plays. He is good enough to have a ballard like role and be an unsung hero for 3 or 4 games in the year making plays own the field in crunch time when defenses are not expecting him
Robinson has far more explosiveness than Ballard. Ballard had instincts and got 110% out of himself. If Robinson finally learns how to read a defense, sight adjust, he'll beat his guy easily most of the time. Teams won't be ready for him.
IF  
Elisha2008 : 8/18/2014 8:09 pm : link
my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle
The OLine screwed up one blitz and  
Headhunter : 8/18/2014 8:10 pm : link
Pugh made a mistake. Beatty got called for a bullshit holding call. Other than that the OLine pass blocked
No she would still be your aunt  
Headhunter : 8/18/2014 8:11 pm : link
with a conversation piece
I believe the better question is whether  
Padiwan15 : 8/18/2014 8:26 pm : link
He can redeem himself because, as of now, he's virtually a bust.
The guy was "raw" out of college, missed most of the pre-season  
SGMen : 8/18/2014 8:29 pm : link
work year one due to college.
Hurt.
Now this is a new offense and he appears hungry. I am not saying he'll be an all-pro but rather that he has the tools to develop as the year goes and be a real threat.

He showed me something with those two catches. Physically he has it. But mentally does he? We shall see.
Doesn't matter it is only preseason  
Mason : 8/18/2014 8:31 pm : link
it only matters if his name was Soup.
He does  
Glover : 8/18/2014 8:50 pm : link
have a wide butt and thick legs. Surprised he doesn't just knock people off the line as a blocker. I liked what I saw on his two catches. I say the arrow may finally be up for the project. The lack of competition at the position should get him some more meaningful snaps, but then again I thought Harris and Washington would be bumped up the depth chart as well by now.
RE: Only way he bust out  
j_rud : 8/18/2014 9:04 pm : link
In comment 11813479 ANGPASS said:
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is if our Oline gives eli time and the WRs are making plays. He is good enough to have a ballard like role and be an unsung hero for 3 or 4 games in the year making plays own the field in crunch time when defenses are not expecting him


I understand the comparison in terms of what you hope to get out of the position, but Robinson has so much more to work with athletically. If he had Ballard' s head and football smarts he could very well end up a quality NFL tight end. Not a star, not a perennial all pro, but a dependable starter. And after last year I'd be more than happy with dependable. Shit, after last year I'd take somewhat dependable and be happy about it...
Seems like  
muhajir : 8/18/2014 9:43 pm : link
McAdoos offense likes using multiple te's. There's room for all of them to eat.
RE: RE: Only way he bust out  
SGMen : 8/18/2014 9:43 pm : link
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is if our Oline gives eli time and the WRs are making plays. He is good enough to have a ballard like role and be an unsung hero for 3 or 4 games in the year making plays own the field in crunch time when defenses are not expecting him



I understand the comparison in terms of what you hope to get out of the position, but Robinson has so much more to work with athletically. If he had Ballard' s head and football smarts he could very well end up a quality NFL tight end. Not a star, not a perennial all pro, but a dependable starter. And after last year I'd be more than happy with dependable. Shit, after last year I'd take somewhat dependable and be happy about it...
Hell, if you combined Ballard and Robinson into one player you'd have an All-Pro TD! :)
dude  
giantgiantfan : 8/19/2014 12:28 am : link
Looks pudgy
RE: RE: RE: Only way he bust out  
j_rud : 8/19/2014 1:00 am : link
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I understand the comparison in terms of what you hope to get out of the position, but Robinson has so much more to work with athletically. If he had Ballard' s head and football smarts he could very well end up a quality NFL tight end. Not a star, not a perennial all pro, but a dependable starter. And after last year I'd be more than happy with dependable. Shit, after last year I'd take somewhat dependable and be happy about it...



Hell, if you combined Ballard and Robinson into one player you'd have an All-Pro TD! :)


When you say it like that of course it sounds silly but isn't that what the Giants are trying to do here? They have a physically gifted kid who needs polishing on the finer points of the position like sight adjustments, running good routes, etc. Those are all of the things that Ballard excelled at. He was proof positive that in today's age of elite measurables an average athlete (comparatively speaking, we're still talking NFL here) who excelled at the fundamentals and did all the little things right could still be a solid NFL contributor.

So yeah, if they can somehow coach up Robinson to where he knows the O front to back, can make sight adjustments, learns to use his body to set up DBs and shield them from the ball, all of those little things that made Ballard a quality NFL starter then yeah, the Giants just might have a heckuva player on their hands.

Bottom line is this: with so much roster turnover, new faces, and talented but unproven young guys, there are bound to be a handful of guys his season who step up and become become more prominent both on the field and in the locker room. It's still just incredibly early and things need to sort themselves out. Hankins, Moore, Kennard, Thurmond, Williams, Robinson, Jennings, Pugh, Richburg...could be any one or a few. But Robinson has just as good a chance as any.
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SanFranGiantsFan : 8/19/2014 6:45 am : link
Well, here's to hoping Robinson does bust out. That'd be a good thing.
Hope  
Doomster : 8/19/2014 6:58 am : link
he has video of those two catches to show his grand kids.....this guy was given the job.....and we see him coming into the game in the fourth quarter against scrubs.....must be a reason.......
At this point, anything's possible.  
Ira : 8/19/2014 7:39 am : link
But my guess is that the tight end that starts game 1 for the Giants isn't currently on the roster.
Ira  
aquidneck : 8/19/2014 7:50 am : link
I'd bet dollars to donuts you're wrong about that.

Wouldn't be suprised to see a guy picked up, but game #1 starting coming from another system is totally unrealistic. Especially for a guy who got cut from his last job.
If he busts out, then most of us on BBI will owe him  
Jimmy Googs : 8/19/2014 7:52 am : link
and Reese an apology for saying he was a wasted pick.

Let me know when I should start writing it...
let me start it for you,  
Doomster : 8/19/2014 7:59 am : link
Dear JPP of TE's.....
We have rarely targeted him  
Reale01 : 8/19/2014 8:16 am : link
Is it because he was never open? Not trusted?

The two receptions may give him confidence and it COULD be a starting point towards better things.

HOWEVER - He dropped an easy pass for a first down prior to that and had a shot at a ball in the endzone - tough catch there, but the great ones make the play.

IMO - Sometimes you just have to feed them the ball in pre-season and take the good with the bad hoping to generate confidence and improvement. I think some of our guys play nervous because they know that one drop or one fumble sends them to the bench.

The Giants seem to value the average player (Pascoe) that knows his assignments more than the athelete who is raw (Robinson) in allocating reps and playing time.

I would like to see Donnell and Robinson get a lot of targets over the next couple weeks and see what happens.

He looked like he was ready to bust out  
Jupiter : 8/19/2014 8:20 am : link
of his pants.

Did he put on weight by sitting on the bench?
I watched Robinson in the second half...  
Doomster : 8/19/2014 8:39 am : link
He's big....yet he can't block worth a damn....

He has good straight ahead speed, and those were the two passes that he caught at the end of the game....poor defense, he just ran straight up the gut and was wide open...

But if he has to make a cut, he loses all that speed....he telegraphs his cuts, tends to round off his route, and has trouble catching balls in traffic....
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SamTheTram : 8/19/2014 8:57 am : link
I'm hoping last game was a confidence boost and he breaks out
Even Tim Carter looked good for a split second.  
Curtis in VA : 8/19/2014 8:59 am : link
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It would be nice if he improved  
JesseS : 8/19/2014 9:11 am : link
But busting out? Special?

From two nice catches in the 4th quarter of a preseason game?

I don't consider myself to be negative, but I would think there are significant amount of players that make a couple plays in the 4th quarter of a preseason game that don't even end up making their team, let alone becoming special or busting out.

I hope you're right.
I just hope they dont  
Blue Baller : 8/19/2014 9:33 am : link
go with quantity for a lack of quality.

I would have to see 4 mediocre TEs make the roster.
He made two great catches  
PeterS : 8/19/2014 10:20 am : link
on those seam routes. I can argue that he could have fought for the ball more on the 2-PAT.

Since the entire offense is still growing into itself he deserves to get some slack.
He made two great catches  
PeterS : 8/19/2014 10:30 am : link
on those seam routes. I can argue that he could have fought for the ball more on the 2-PAT.

Since the entire offense is still growing into itself he deserves to get some slack.
On the 2 PAT I agree Robinson could have done more possibly  
SGMen : 8/19/2014 7:56 pm : link
He is still a project, I know, but you just have to be impressed with his speed down the middle like that. It opened my eyes!

Hey, as the season progresses he could work his way in more and more and be a threat. I have high hopes that is the case with him.
This guy's a fucking scrub.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/19/2014 7:58 pm : link
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RE: This guy's a fucking scrub.  
SGMen : 8/19/2014 8:09 pm : link
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Likely true BUT you have to be hopeful! Maybe he can be a situational player on say 3rd downs. He creates matchup problems with his speed.
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