in the last 4 years over policy brutality, maybe Ferguson is more of a symptom of our disappearing middle class and the need for harsher policing to keep the "permanent underclass" in line.
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From 2009 to 2012, as the U.S. economy improved, incomes of the top 1% grew more than 31%, while the incomes of the 99% grew 0.4% - less than half a percentage point.
in the last 4 years over policy brutality, maybe Ferguson is more of a symptom of our disappearing middle class and the need for harsher policing to keep the "permanent underclass" in line.
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From 2009 to 2012, as the U.S. economy improved, incomes of the top 1% grew more than 31%, while the incomes of the 99% grew 0.4% - less than half a percentage point.
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Ever-sensitive to macroeconomic trends, the looters took down a Payless Shoe Store to stick it to the 1%.
here's a question i have "WHY THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE YOUR 7 YEAR OLD OUT THERE PROTESTING???"
the parent is a registered voter... that person has the right to vote... with that mental capacity, its scary...
I can top that. There is video out there of a pregnant woman putting on a gas mask. I mean, really? You HAVE to be out there and risk your life and your unborn kids?
It's teeming with young black men who no one thought of excusing their behavior, blaming their victim, or creating a defense funds for them. A large number of them will go on trial (or plead out), then get shipped off to prison. People can be upset with the violence in Chicago, but they don't have to worry that known killers will be absolved by the justice system.
Whether this police officer is absolved or eventually found guilty of wrongdoing has little effect on the outcome of a family's civil suit. There are plenty of examples of localities that settle out of court even when the officer doesn't get charged with anything, let alone is found not guilty after a trial.
'but then I expect nothing less from the likes of you'
I'll let everyone know at the next meeting that you don't take us seriously. After we vote out Al as the Supreme Leader of All Blacks, we'll call you to see who we should nominate for the position.
You guys have meetings? Do you serve drinks or is it BYOB?
and The Nation still clings to the supposed innocence of Alger Hiss
that Crump and Parks used in Florida. They even sat the family in the exact same order for the first press photo op with Crump as they did in the Martin case.
Crump does not want the Grand Jury unless he's got a fix in. Maybe Holder is the fix. They will have better luck if they appoint a special prosecutor. They really need this officer to be arrested whether he is guilty or not. The financial benefits of an arrest increase for Crump and therefore for the parents.
We should be seeing the Justice For Mike tee shirts soon.
Police violence is not just a problem in Ferguson, not just a problem during protests, not just a problem for young black men, but a problem with the laws cops enforce, the tools they're given to do so, the erosion of our rights in the name of public safety, and the protections cops enjoy when they're wrong.
is a steaming pile of trash from beginning to end. Let's ignore the thoroughly manifold reasons that decide what makes a city succeed or fail - macro, micro, cultural, racial, geographical, historical, etc, etc - and instead boil it neatly down into an amazingly vacuous commentary on the political (which is indeed part of the equation, in degrees.)
I'm trying to think if there was anything else noteworthy that occurred before and during Detroit's decay beyond its public policy. Anyone? I think it had something to do with cars.
What a brutal article. Like a moth to a flame, no surprise that it was buford who found such hollow nonsense compelling.
Common sense tells me a cop just didn't wake up in the morning
with the intention of shooting anyone. He sees a guy walking down the middle of the street and tells him to walk on the sidewalk. something happened at that point and i'm sure it wasn't no officer i won't and the cop starts shooting
is a steaming pile of trash from beginning to end. Let's ignore the thoroughly manifold reasons that decide what makes a city succeed or fail - macro, micro, cultural, racial, geographical, historical, etc, etc - and instead boil it neatly down into an amazingly vacuous commentary on the political (which is indeed part of the equation, in degrees.)
I'm trying to think if there was anything else noteworthy that occurred before and during Detroit's decay beyond its public policy. Anyone? I think it had something to do with cars.
What a brutal article. Like a moth to a flame, no surprise that it was buford who found such hollow nonsense compelling.
It is not the best article, and the overall quality of The National Review's work has declined with the "rise" of the web-based content, but let's not pretend that policy and the decline of the auto industry in Michigan were unrelated either.
for the home owners and law abiding citizens who are going to see their lives destroyed by these protests. The Ferguson community has been effectively destroyed because a few chose violence over peaceful protest.
Who will willingly choose to live in Ferguson in the future?
the new Black Panthers and other outside groups away from the residents. This will end if they can accomplish that. It's kind of difficult to get things calm when you have a guy from the NBP with a megaphone leading protests.
On top of that you have Al Sharpton (wonder how much Crump paid him?) and Jessie Jackson coming in. Plus you have the usual brain dead mind-numbed users who hate all authority except when they get their social security disability checks. They get pretty worked up too.
Destroying a convenience store was a nice touch.
RE: RE: We've had 4 large scale riots in this country
in the last 4 years over policy brutality, maybe Ferguson is more of a symptom of our disappearing middle class and the need for harsher policing to keep the "permanent underclass" in line.
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From 2009 to 2012, as the U.S. economy improved, incomes of the top 1% grew more than 31%, while the incomes of the 99% grew 0.4% - less than half a percentage point.
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Ever-sensitive to macroeconomic trends, the looters took down a Payless Shoe Store to stick it to the 1%.
Payless is owned by Golden Gate Capital. I know those guys. Believe me, they are in the 1%.
clearly the (unfortunately excessive) influence of public sector unions played its role - and a large one in Motown's case - but so did any number of other factors (NAFTA, for one. Excellent Japanese alternatives. An over-reliance on the SUV craze in the 90s). Which is my point: it's complicated and to pare it down so neatly to conform to a bias is nonsense.
For every downtrodden "liberal" city like Detroit, you can point to a successful one like Seattle or Austin or Denver. For varied reasons. For every downtrodden "conservative" state like Mississippi, you can point to a North Dakota. For varied reasons (well maybe just one in ND's case...).
He was not a "gentle giant", he was not "unarmed"...at his size and weight, he is a weapon and beat the police officer to a point where he had no choice but to defend himself and shoot the attacking thug. He wasn't an innocent "teen", he was an adult (at 18 years of age) and responsible for his actions and suffered the consequences of them.
You don't attack a police officer and you certainly don't try to take his firearm. The police officer did his job and did it well.
in the last 4 years over policy brutality, maybe Ferguson is more of a symptom of our disappearing middle class and the need for harsher policing to keep the "permanent underclass" in line.
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From 2009 to 2012, as the U.S. economy improved, incomes of the top 1% grew more than 31%, while the incomes of the 99% grew 0.4% - less than half a percentage point.
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Ever-sensitive to macroeconomic trends, the looters took down a Payless Shoe Store to stick it to the 1%.
Payless is owned by Golden Gate Capital. I know those guys. Believe me, they are in the 1%.
What about the person who owns the property that leases it to Payless?
is irrelevant to the guys at Golden Gate Capital but it's not irrelevant to the family hoping to buy shoes for the kids as they prepare for going back to school. It's not irrelevant to the manager of the store who no longer has a job.
The people who have come from outside Ferguson get to protest and make themselves relevant but they have no skin in the game. The people who made Ferguson a community are the ones getting screwed and the worst part is that it won't make a difference.
RE: RE: RE: RE: We've had 4 large scale riots in this country
in the last 4 years over policy brutality, maybe Ferguson is more of a symptom of our disappearing middle class and the need for harsher policing to keep the "permanent underclass" in line.
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From 2009 to 2012, as the U.S. economy improved, incomes of the top 1% grew more than 31%, while the incomes of the 99% grew 0.4% - less than half a percentage point.
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Ever-sensitive to macroeconomic trends, the looters took down a Payless Shoe Store to stick it to the 1%.
Payless is owned by Golden Gate Capital. I know those guys. Believe me, they are in the 1%.
What about the person who owns the property that leases it to Payless?
Point taken. Looking back, I don't think my comment added a whole lot that's relevant.
is irrelevant to the guys at Golden Gate Capital but it's not irrelevant to the family hoping to buy shoes for the kids as they prepare for going back to school. It's not irrelevant to the manager of the store who no longer has a job.
The people who have come from outside Ferguson get to protest and make themselves relevant but they have no skin in the game. The people who made Ferguson a community are the ones getting screwed and the worst part is that it won't make a difference.
I agree it's the outsiders that are driving this but the locals are letting them. What makes the locals have to listen to take their cues from some NBP guy with a megaphone? It's their town.
The community is finished. Nobody is going to willingly move to Ferguson nor will they invest in the place. Once the looting stops, it will sink into decay and despair.
I have no empathy for the protesters. The grievance may or may not be legit but their actions are not.
My dad was a part of the original riot specialists in the NYPD and he always told me that the lowest common denominator does the thinking for a crowd. The protesters are being manipulated at this point.
that's one thing that's hard to disagree with, Phil
and call him what he was? A brutal savage that attacked a law enforcement officer doing his job
gotta love it when ignorant fools like this use words like "savage" to describe African Americans, and without a fucking clue as to the implications of the word, it being racially charged, or how it would be received by others.
He was not a "gentle giant", he was not "unarmed"...at his size and weight, he is a weapon and beat the police officer to a point where he had no choice but to defend himself and shoot the attacking thug. He wasn't an innocent "teen", he was an adult (at 18 years of age) and responsible for his actions and suffered the consequences of them.
You don't attack a police officer and you certainly don't try to take his firearm. The police officer did his job and did it well. Thug broke police officer's eye socket - ( New Window )
and call him what he was? A brutal savage that attacked a law enforcement officer doing his job
gotta love it when ignorant fools like this use words like "savage" to describe African Americans, and without a fucking clue as to the implications of the word, it being racially charged, or how it would be received by others.
Sounds like you're the one that's the racist when you automatically make that association. I consider anyone that brutally attacks a police officer to be a savage, whether they're white, black, green or purple. I think you are the one lacking clues in your little brain.
My dad was a part of the original riot specialists in the NYPD and he always told me that the lowest common denominator does the thinking for a crowd. The protesters are being manipulated at this point.
I believe it. You bring up your dad (RIP) a lot. He must have had some stories to tell.
Sounds like you're the one that's the racist when you automatically make that association. I consider anyone that brutally attacks a police officer to be a savage, whether they're white, black, green or purple. I think you are the one lacking clues in your little brain.
You're a liar. And if you think anyone believes that you routinely use the word "savage" to describe anyone whose skin is not dark, then you're wasting your time.
Sounds like you're the one that's the racist when you automatically make that association. I consider anyone that brutally attacks a police officer to be a savage, whether they're white, black, green or purple. I think you are the one lacking clues in your little brain.
You're a liar. And if you think anyone believes that you routinely use the word "savage" to describe anyone whose skin is not dark, then you're wasting your time.
Nope, just checked my pants and they are not on fire.
He was a great man but he never told stories as he had no respect for people who talked tough even though he was the epitome of tough. He only shared what he learned from his experience as a means towards educating me in the realities of life. The only time I heard stories was at his funeral.
is a steaming pile of trash from beginning to end. Let's ignore the thoroughly manifold reasons that decide what makes a city succeed or fail - macro, micro, cultural, racial, geographical, historical, etc, etc - and instead boil it neatly down into an amazingly vacuous commentary on the political (which is indeed part of the equation, in degrees.)
I'm trying to think if there was anything else noteworthy that occurred before and during Detroit's decay beyond its public policy. Anyone? I think it had something to do with cars.
What a brutal article. Like a moth to a flame, no surprise that it was buford who found such hollow nonsense compelling.
So is Detroit the only city, run by democrats for decades, to be in decline?
The media is force feeding this so much I can't turn the TV on until it goes away.
Oh and I can't stand Al Sharpton. The African American community will never be taken seriously as long as it keeps putting him in the forefront as some kind of leader and moral compass every time there is an issue.
Fixed...
*every time there is an issue that can get him on television or provide him with any sort of publicity.
If that story about the orbital fracture is true, it completely
Anyone finding some eery similarities with the Travyon Martin story?
At first, that was played up as a law abiding kid gunned down in cold blood. That story line hit its expiration date when physical evidence showed that Zimmerman was assaulted by Travyon and had the head injuries to prove it.
because, as I read earlier, we won't know what really happened until the whole story is told.
If the officer was unprovoked and shot him 6 times in cold blood, yes, he should absolutely be arrested and there should be major changes to the police dept in Ferguson.
What happens if more information comes out besides the orbital fractures that leave little doubt that the cop acted absolutely in self defense? While we should all strive for equality and justice, the protesters would have some major egg on their faces
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From 2009 to 2012, as the U.S. economy improved, incomes of the top 1% grew more than 31%, while the incomes of the 99% grew 0.4% - less than half a percentage point.
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Ever-sensitive to macroeconomic trends, the looters took down a Payless Shoe Store to stick it to the 1%.
I was curious who was going to rise to the call. I was guessing Buford.
the parent is a registered voter... that person has the right to vote... with that mental capacity, its scary...
I can top that. There is video out there of a pregnant woman putting on a gas mask. I mean, really? You HAVE to be out there and risk your life and your unborn kids?
BTW, this is an excellent article on the decline in cities with minority populations and the reason.
Hint, it's not from Daily Kos.
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Small correction...the Grand Jury convenes tomorrow.
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Whether this police officer is absolved or eventually found guilty of wrongdoing has little effect on the outcome of a family's civil suit. There are plenty of examples of localities that settle out of court even when the officer doesn't get charged with anything, let alone is found not guilty after a trial.
To be fair, Stormfront seems more honest. The Caller still clings to that phony Menendez story.
You guys have meetings? Do you serve drinks or is it BYOB?
Crump does not want the Grand Jury unless he's got a fix in. Maybe Holder is the fix. They will have better luck if they appoint a special prosecutor. They really need this officer to be arrested whether he is guilty or not. The financial benefits of an arrest increase for Crump and therefore for the parents.
We should be seeing the Justice For Mike tee shirts soon.
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I'm trying to think if there was anything else noteworthy that occurred before and during Detroit's decay beyond its public policy. Anyone? I think it had something to do with cars.
What a brutal article. Like a moth to a flame, no surprise that it was buford who found such hollow nonsense compelling.
I'm trying to think if there was anything else noteworthy that occurred before and during Detroit's decay beyond its public policy. Anyone? I think it had something to do with cars.
What a brutal article. Like a moth to a flame, no surprise that it was buford who found such hollow nonsense compelling.
It is not the best article, and the overall quality of The National Review's work has declined with the "rise" of the web-based content, but let's not pretend that policy and the decline of the auto industry in Michigan were unrelated either.
Who will willingly choose to live in Ferguson in the future?
On top of that you have Al Sharpton (wonder how much Crump paid him?) and Jessie Jackson coming in. Plus you have the usual brain dead mind-numbed users who hate all authority except when they get their social security disability checks. They get pretty worked up too.
Destroying a convenience store was a nice touch.
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in the last 4 years over policy brutality, maybe Ferguson is more of a symptom of our disappearing middle class and the need for harsher policing to keep the "permanent underclass" in line.
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From 2009 to 2012, as the U.S. economy improved, incomes of the top 1% grew more than 31%, while the incomes of the 99% grew 0.4% - less than half a percentage point.
Link - ( New Window )
Ever-sensitive to macroeconomic trends, the looters took down a Payless Shoe Store to stick it to the 1%.
Payless is owned by Golden Gate Capital. I know those guys. Believe me, they are in the 1%.
For every downtrodden "liberal" city like Detroit, you can point to a successful one like Seattle or Austin or Denver. For varied reasons. For every downtrodden "conservative" state like Mississippi, you can point to a North Dakota. For varied reasons (well maybe just one in ND's case...).
It's just a shit article.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-report-po-darren-wilson-suffered-orbital-blowout-fracture-to-eye-socket-during-encounter-with-mike-brown/
He was not a "gentle giant", he was not "unarmed"...at his size and weight, he is a weapon and beat the police officer to a point where he had no choice but to defend himself and shoot the attacking thug. He wasn't an innocent "teen", he was an adult (at 18 years of age) and responsible for his actions and suffered the consequences of them.
You don't attack a police officer and you certainly don't try to take his firearm. The police officer did his job and did it well.
Thug broke police officer's eye socket - ( New Window )
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in the last 4 years over policy brutality, maybe Ferguson is more of a symptom of our disappearing middle class and the need for harsher policing to keep the "permanent underclass" in line.
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From 2009 to 2012, as the U.S. economy improved, incomes of the top 1% grew more than 31%, while the incomes of the 99% grew 0.4% - less than half a percentage point.
Link - ( New Window )
Ever-sensitive to macroeconomic trends, the looters took down a Payless Shoe Store to stick it to the 1%.
Payless is owned by Golden Gate Capital. I know those guys. Believe me, they are in the 1%.
What about the person who owns the property that leases it to Payless?
The people who have come from outside Ferguson get to protest and make themselves relevant but they have no skin in the game. The people who made Ferguson a community are the ones getting screwed and the worst part is that it won't make a difference.
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in the last 4 years over policy brutality, maybe Ferguson is more of a symptom of our disappearing middle class and the need for harsher policing to keep the "permanent underclass" in line.
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From 2009 to 2012, as the U.S. economy improved, incomes of the top 1% grew more than 31%, while the incomes of the 99% grew 0.4% - less than half a percentage point.
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Ever-sensitive to macroeconomic trends, the looters took down a Payless Shoe Store to stick it to the 1%.
Payless is owned by Golden Gate Capital. I know those guys. Believe me, they are in the 1%.
What about the person who owns the property that leases it to Payless?
Point taken. Looking back, I don't think my comment added a whole lot that's relevant.
The people who have come from outside Ferguson get to protest and make themselves relevant but they have no skin in the game. The people who made Ferguson a community are the ones getting screwed and the worst part is that it won't make a difference.
I agree it's the outsiders that are driving this but the locals are letting them. What makes the locals have to listen to take their cues from some NBP guy with a megaphone? It's their town.
I have no empathy for the protesters. The grievance may or may not be legit but their actions are not.
gotta love it when ignorant fools like this use words like "savage" to describe African Americans, and without a fucking clue as to the implications of the word, it being racially charged, or how it would be received by others.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-report-po-darren-wilson-suffered-orbital-blowout-fracture-to-eye-socket-during-encounter-with-mike-brown/
He was not a "gentle giant", he was not "unarmed"...at his size and weight, he is a weapon and beat the police officer to a point where he had no choice but to defend himself and shoot the attacking thug. He wasn't an innocent "teen", he was an adult (at 18 years of age) and responsible for his actions and suffered the consequences of them.
You don't attack a police officer and you certainly don't try to take his firearm. The police officer did his job and did it well. Thug broke police officer's eye socket - ( New Window )
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and call him what he was? A brutal savage that attacked a law enforcement officer doing his job
gotta love it when ignorant fools like this use words like "savage" to describe African Americans, and without a fucking clue as to the implications of the word, it being racially charged, or how it would be received by others.
Sounds like you're the one that's the racist when you automatically make that association. I consider anyone that brutally attacks a police officer to be a savage, whether they're white, black, green or purple. I think you are the one lacking clues in your little brain.
I believe it. You bring up your dad (RIP) a lot. He must have had some stories to tell.
You're a liar. And if you think anyone believes that you routinely use the word "savage" to describe anyone whose skin is not dark, then you're wasting your time.
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Sounds like you're the one that's the racist when you automatically make that association. I consider anyone that brutally attacks a police officer to be a savage, whether they're white, black, green or purple. I think you are the one lacking clues in your little brain.
You're a liar. And if you think anyone believes that you routinely use the word "savage" to describe anyone whose skin is not dark, then you're wasting your time.
Nope, just checked my pants and they are not on fire.
Some of us don't find this to be a shocking development, certainly not I.
I'm trying to think if there was anything else noteworthy that occurred before and during Detroit's decay beyond its public policy. Anyone? I think it had something to do with cars.
What a brutal article. Like a moth to a flame, no surprise that it was buford who found such hollow nonsense compelling.
So is Detroit the only city, run by democrats for decades, to be in decline?
Oh and I can't stand Al Sharpton. The African American community will never be taken seriously as long as it keeps putting him in the forefront as some kind of leader and moral compass every time there is an issue.
Fixed...
*every time there is an issue that can get him on television or provide him with any sort of publicity.
Anyone finding some eery similarities with the Travyon Martin story?
At first, that was played up as a law abiding kid gunned down in cold blood. That story line hit its expiration date when physical evidence showed that Zimmerman was assaulted by Travyon and had the head injuries to prove it.
With the implication being what, cities that are run by Republicans are all doing great?
Another person whose brain is on auto pilot.
If the officer was unprovoked and shot him 6 times in cold blood, yes, he should absolutely be arrested and there should be major changes to the police dept in Ferguson.
What happens if more information comes out besides the orbital fractures that leave little doubt that the cop acted absolutely in self defense? While we should all strive for equality and justice, the protesters would have some major egg on their faces
Missed the point entirely, unsurprisingly. You are absolutely hopeless.
But you don't want to face the reality of it so what's the point.