NFT: Fantasy Chat - 8/19

It is a non-PPR and 4 points per TD league. I picked First.

If you are a season ticket holder the Giants are doing a fantasy league for just season ticket holders and if you win your league you get field passes for a Giants game in 2015.

Stafford

Peterson
Bernard
Rice
PIerce
Fred Jackson
Jeremy Hill

Julio Jones
Fitz
Hilton
Wayne

WItten
Kelce

Bucs

Bailey

In comment 11814374 robbieballs2003 said:

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It is a non-PPR and 4 points per TD league. I picked First. If you are a season ticket holder the Giants are doing a fantasy league for just season ticket holders and if you win your league you get field passes for a Giants game in 2015. Stafford Peterson Bernard Rice PIerce Fred Jackson Jeremy Hill Julio Jones Fitz Hilton Wayne WItten Kelce Bucs Bailey

I wouldnt of went Peterson 1 but not to bad...Bernard is a good 2nd RB and you have some good depth with Pierce and Jackson

Wr is not bad Jones and Fits should be good for you...hopefully Floyd continues to emerge for the Cardinals and keeps opening up the field for Fitz...Dont like have 2 receivers from the same team in Hilton and Wayne but both are good Wrs..Hilton is a deep threat and Wayne if healthy is stil very good..

stafford is good will have some bad games but will have very big games as well...

Overall not a bad team...

I went with AP because I heard he will be involved in the passing game more than he has so he can get a little extra yardage and he is consistent for TDs. I guess you can say I went with the safest choice imo for a non-PPR league. If it was a PPR league I would have chosen McCoy, Charles and Forte before Peterson.

I definitely don't like my receivers overall in this league but I only need to start 2 so I am fine with starting Jones and Fitz every week. I will have to try to work a trade for another WR if my backs work out.

with any of the top 4 backs in my opinion...I just like Forte, Charles and Mccoy better than AP...

I am guessing your draft went like this

AP
bernard/jones
Stafford/fitz
Witten/Rice
jackson/Hilton
Wayne/Pierce
Hill/Kelce
Bucs/Bailey

AP
Bernard/Jones
Stafford/Fitz
Rice/Hilton
WItten/Jackson
PIerce/Wayne
Hill/Kelce
Bucs/Bailey

The only reason I went with Rice high is because I knew I was going to get Pierce because he was listed so low. I figured I get both and have a monopoly on the Ravens running backs. With Kubiac there one of them is bound to break out. Fred Jackson just looks better than Spiller right now and is still getting the goal line work. I wanted Rudolph but he went earlier than expected so I went with Witten. There were some good TEs left after so I went with a huge upside guy in Kelce as a backup.

Do you go AP or Forte with the 3rd pick?

I'd go Peterson

Draft Kings or FanDuel and had any success doing so? I wanna try it.

but its still really close. Forte did just come off of a 1900 yard season. If PPR at all definitely Forte.

I dabbled in the daily sites a little last year and will be back in them again this year. They each have different lineup requirements/caps/scoring, I'll try to post a quick summary on them later tonight if I get time.

A few quick thoughts:
Avoid the higher stakes games, especially while you are starting out. It takes a few weeks to figure out how to best pick a winning lineup. You can enter a couple of the low fee tournaments a week, but you should really be sticking to just doing the double ups (ie half the field about doubles their money - play $5 to win $9 if you finish in the top half of the entries in that pool) and triple ups. Those are the best ways to win a little bit in the beginning. You can play around by entering a couple of different lineups, but don't spread yourself out too much.

They all offer 100% bonus matching dollars on your first deposit, don't get too excited about this because they only apply these at like a 1 or 5% rate - ie if you enter a $1 tourney, .99 will come out of your account balance and .01 out of your bonus.

It's fun, but it's a lot different than a season long league.

been following these... what are you guys rankings of say

Murray, Bernard, Ball, Bell, Ellington (in what order)?

so take whichever of those you prefer.

In comment 11814374 robbieballs2003 said:

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It is a non-PPR and 4 points per TD league. I picked First. If you are a season ticket holder the Giants are doing a fantasy league for just season ticket holders and if you win your league you get field passes for a Giants game in 2015. Stafford Peterson Bernard Rice PIerce Fred Jackson Jeremy Hill Julio Jones Fitz Hilton Wayne WItten Kelce Bucs Bailey

Love 10-team, it's my preference. That's a good team. Might need a backup QB, so maybe look at who is a good choice when DET has a bye instead of waiting.

Its a close call you guys are right.

In comment 11814814 DanMetroMan said:

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been following these... what are you guys rankings of say Murray, Bernard, Ball, Bell, Ellington (in what order)?

IMO in the exact order you listed.

In comment 11814812 YAJ2112 said:

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I dabbled in the daily sites a little last year and will be back in them again this year. They each have different lineup requirements/caps/scoring, I'll try to post a quick summary on them later tonight if I get time. A few quick thoughts: Avoid the higher stakes games, especially while you are starting out. It takes a few weeks to figure out how to best pick a winning lineup. You can enter a couple of the low fee tournaments a week, but you should really be sticking to just doing the double ups (ie half the field about doubles their money - play $5 to win $9 if you finish in the top half of the entries in that pool) and triple ups. Those are the best ways to win a little bit in the beginning. You can play around by entering a couple of different lineups, but don't spread yourself out too much. They all offer 100% bonus matching dollars on your first deposit, don't get too excited about this because they only apply these at like a 1 or 5% rate - ie if you enter a $1 tourney, .99 will come out of your account balance and .01 out of your bonus. It's fun, but it's a lot different than a season long league.

Thanks man! I thought about dabbling in it last year but I never did. I am always skeptical about these kinds of things. I am probably gonna jump in and do it and see what I can do.

I'm on both of those and Fanthrowdown as well... think I get some sort of referral bonus.

anyone think Andre Ellington breaks out and becomes a top 5 RB this season??

I am torn on keeping him for nothing vs using my first pick on Demaryious Thomas

I have #4 overall, 12 team PPR, 6pts all TDs.

Peyton, Brees, & Rodgers are the only QBs I would consider in the 1st 2 rounds. Let's Peyton is gone, do you draft Brees #4 overall?

Just trying to prepare if Peyton goes in the top 3.

In comment 11814935 drkenneth said:

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I have #4 overall, 12 team PPR, 6pts all TDs. Peyton, Brees, & Rodgers are the only QBs I would consider in the 1st 2 rounds. Let's Peyton is gone, do you draft Brees #4 overall? Just trying to prepare if Peyton goes in the top 3.

No, too high for a QB. Take the best RB on the board that catches the most passes since its PPR. Basically take Charles, McCoy, or Forte.

been traveling abroad for the past couple of weeks without internet, but now that I am back I was wondering if i missed Kmed posting the annual draft kit he gets from his friend?

In comment 11814935 drkenneth said:

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I have #4 overall, 12 team PPR, 6pts all TDs. Peyton, Brees, & Rodgers are the only QBs I would consider in the 1st 2 rounds. Let's Peyton is gone, do you draft Brees #4 overall? Just trying to prepare if Peyton goes in the top 3.

I'd take Peyton there in a heartbeat but I'd pass on Brees at 4 if Peyton was off the board.

but pass on QB there.

I love Forte, but I feel like he'll get hurt. CJ is a solid pick there I think.

If Peyton is off the board, it almost certainly means the first 3 picks were McCoy, Charles and Peyton.

So 4 is kind of a tough spot. Because the elite tier QB is gone and the 2 elite tier RB's are as well. You can go Calvin but by the time you get back to your pick, Brees will likely be gone which means you'll be looking RB and by then, 5-6 more top RB's will be gone and you could wind up in a crappy situation.

I'd probably take Forte or Peterson at 4 if McCoy, Charles and Peyton were off the board.

coming back around the big 3 QBs will likely be gone, as will the top 7-10 RBs. That leaves you with a reach on an RB or taking a Brandon Marshall if you are lucky.

Take Forte in a PPR at 4 and don't look back. He's a lock for 100 yards a game.

In comment 11814996 BleedingBlue2 said:

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been traveling abroad for the past couple of weeks without internet, but now that I am back I was wondering if i missed Kmed posting the annual draft kit he gets from his friend?

None this year.

I was just thinking earlier when I was giving advice on the 4th pick that I wouldn't want that pick.. and that's exactly the pick I just wound up with for my draft tonight.

League is .5 PPR. Assuming McCoy, Charles and Peyton are gone.. should Forte be my guy?

In comment 11815279 arcarsenal said:

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I was just thinking earlier when I was giving advice on the 4th pick that I wouldn't want that pick.. and that's exactly the pick I just wound up with for my draft tonight. League is .5 PPR. Assuming McCoy, Charles and Peyton are gone.. should Forte be my guy?

That's where I'm at as well.

how many people are down on AP. I think he's going to have a bounceback year under Norv.

to go off the board in a ppr league?
i sit at 5 and fear the top 4 RBs will be off the board. and its too early for QB. CJ or Graham?

In comment 11815344 hitdog42 said:

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to go off the board in a ppr league? i sit at 5 and fear the top 4 RBs will be off the board. and its too early for QB. CJ or Graham?

Lacy

But .5 PPR or PPR I think Forte is safer.

In comment 11815352 arcarsenal said:

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But .5 PPR or PPR I think Forte is safer.

Didn't Forte have a larger workload than AP last year?

And it was only because AP missed 2 games

And wound up with

Brees
Rivers

Forte
Morris
Tate
Pierce

Roddy
Michael Floyd
TY Hilton
Brandin Cooks
DeAndre Hopkins
Justin Hunter

(I didn't really care about D/ST or K)

It's hard to go by these, though.. there are always people who don't know what they're doing.

I feel like there are SO many good WR's, though.. RB thins out very fast.

I had Jordan Reed as my TE. I probably should have taken another one but I was just trying to get a feel for who would be available when

And I've even seen other backs not named forte, Charles, McCoy, Peterson go ahead of lynch which to me is crazy. Seattle will ride lynch again in 2014 and even if they lessen his carries a little bit, no lock mind you, he's still a safer bet than guys like lacy. Lacy could be a legit top 5... Could be. Lynch is.

I'd like to pick 5th in my league and get one of forte, Peyton or lynch . Then grab the stud WR on the way back. One of green, Marshall, Jeffrey, brown, etc will be there.

I'd kind of love forte...4th. That(4th) to me Might be the best value slot in this draft although I do have a sneaking suspicion that Peterson has one of those epic seasons this year. Thing is every time I draft Peterson I win titles. How do I ignore him... But he's older.

The person who picked 3rd took Forte.

I was SO close to taking Peyton but it's alright because I snagged Brees in the back end of the 2nd rd (and I think he could potentially be the top fantasy QB this year. Peyton isn't going to replicate last year)

For the love of JC- these GD rankings are not a script from the bible.

Much like real tackle football we see every weekend, there are those that rise/sink based on the observation of the viewer.

Whether Forte is #3 or Lacy is #5- is it ever really that clinical?

If you're sitting on the toilet constantly stressing over which player to take at #7...jeesh.

Chances are the player you passed on and was drafted at #11- will out perform your pick.

I form my own draft board based on the scoring settings and if I finish in first...great. Miss the play-offs- oh fucking well.

This is supposed to be a diversion- not an extension of our office power trips. JFC.

In comment 11815576 jc in c-ville said:

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For the love of JC- these GD rankings are not a script from the bible. Much like real tackle football we see every weekend, there are those that rise/sink based on the observation of the viewer. Whether Forte is #3 or Lacy is #5- is it ever really that clinical? If you're sitting on the toilet constantly stressing over which player to take at #7...jeesh. Chances are the player you passed on and was drafted at #11- will out perform your pick. I form my own draft board based on the scoring settings and if I finish in first...great. Miss the play-offs- oh fucking well. This is supposed to be a diversion- not an extension of our office power trips. JFC.

Stop drinking?

What rankings are you even talking about anyway?

There's a big gap after the 1-4 RBs IMO. If you think otherwise that's fine but your entire tantrum made no sense whatsoever.

Finished my draft last night for the 1st (lesser) of the 2 leagues I'm in. Like I said last night, I wound up taking Peterson with my 1st pick (4th overall).. the first 3 picks were Charles, McCoy, Forte. I knew there was going to be a major run on RB's early so as tempting as it was to take Peyton at 4, I just couldn't do it and I'm glad I didn't.. because my RB1 would have been weak. Lacy, Bernard, Murray, Lynch all came off the board before my 2nd pick.

10 teams, .5 PPR, start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 W/R/T, 1 K, 1 D/ST, 6 Bench spots

QB: D.Brees
BN: C. Kaepernick

RB: A. Peterson
RB: A. Morris
BN: J. Bell
BN: B. Pierce

WR: V. Jackson
WR: M. Floyd
BN: B. Cooks
BN: T. Williams
BN: J. Hunter

TE: J. Reed
BN: C. Clay

D/ST: KC
K: Hauschka

during these discussions. No clue what he's blabbing about.

and who else was available? Love the first 2 picks, any time you can start with a stud RB and top tier QB, you are in the discussion.

In comment 11815678 arcarsenal said:

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Finished my draft last night for the 1st (lesser) of the 2 leagues I'm in. Like I said last night, I wound up taking Peterson with my 1st pick (4th overall).. the first 3 picks were Charles, McCoy, Forte. I knew there was going to be a major run on RB's early so as tempting as it was to take Peyton at 4, I just couldn't do it and I'm glad I didn't.. because my RB1 would have been weak. Lacy, Bernard, Murray, Lynch all came off the board before my 2nd pick. 10 teams, .5 PPR, start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 W/R/T, 1 K, 1 D/ST, 6 Bench spots QB: D.Brees BN: C. Kaepernick RB: A. Peterson RB: A. Morris BN: J. Bell BN: B. Pierce WR: V. Jackson WR: M. Floyd BN: B. Cooks BN: T. Williams BN: J. Hunter TE: J. Reed BN: C. Clay D/ST: KC K: Hauschka

Not bad at all Arc...Ap and Morris is a good combo at RB...you got 2 WRs that will score TDs and i like your back up Wrs both guy shave big upside...Cooks is really liked in NO...

reed has the chance to be a top 5 TE....

My question did you take Morris 3rd round or 4th round..

Morris/V Jax/Floyd at 3/4/5

but I'm more curious who else was available. I don't really like the team to be honest and I have the same strategy with my first 2 picks. I don't love Morris this year, specifically in a PPR league. He was very effective in the read option offense, but they are getting away from that and passing more from the pocket. He's not going to catch any balls at all either. I don't like VJax, I don't like Floyd and he really lacks upside from his other WR's. I think Reed will be ok, but I also think people are overstating his value. I can see him as a top 5 TE, but the 5th ranked TE still doesn't score enough pts to be a difference maker.

I doubt I would have gone Morris there (or VJax if that was the pick)

Thanks.. YAJ has it right.

I felt like I was taking Morris a little soon, it was between he, Martin and Stacy. In retrospect, maybe I should have gone Martin but I just really like Morris this year for some reason and feel like he's slightly undervalued. I think if RGIII is healthy again (we'll see how long that lasts), things will open up and Morris can have a year closer to his rookie year again where he was a horse.

You know he's going to get plenty of touches, so.

I'm banking on Floyd really breaking out this year. I mean, he sort of did already down the stretch last year but the way Arians loves to go downfield I am really thinking he can have a legit WR1 type year.

And everyone is raving about Cooks so I was glad I snatched him up as well.

At the point I took VJax..

These guys were all off the board:

CJ
Thomas
Dez
AJ
Julio
Marshall
Jeffery
Nelson
Brown
Welker
Cobb

It was between VJax and Roddy. Vjax has been a rock. He produces every year. I almost took Roddy but I felt more comfortable going VJ