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August 19, 2014 New York Giants Practice Report

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/19/2014 5:01 pm
by Connor Hughes...
August 19, 2014 New York Giants Practice Report - ( New Window )
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kepler20 : 8/19/2014 5:06 pm : link
Is there anyway we can trade for Eric Wood?
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kepler20 : 8/19/2014 5:13 pm : link
google eric wood aaron maybin if you dont get it.
It's a waste of time having Randle and Cruz  
Bill in UT : 8/19/2014 5:21 pm : link
take punts. Randle is awful and they're not going to risk Cruz as a returner.
Agreed  
weaverpsu : 8/19/2014 5:25 pm : link
But someone has to do it while Holliday and OB are out.
Pugh getting time at LT.  
drkenneth : 8/19/2014 5:30 pm : link
Hmmmm.
Bill's right. It is almost shocking  
Jimmy Googs : 8/19/2014 5:33 pm : link
that there is not a backup WR or CB that can be reliable enough to handle punts.

Jernigan, James, Hosley...this could actually make you valuable enough to keep so step up.
O-line that came in shortly after start..  
drkenneth : 8/19/2014 5:33 pm : link
Pugh-Schwartz-Walton-Richburg-Mosley
can someone explain this to me?  
odunde : 8/19/2014 5:36 pm : link
"It was Brandon McManus‘ turn to kick today and he went 3-of-4. What once looked like a real competition now appears anything but. Coughlin was asked if it would be tough to make the kicker choice and his response said it all: 'I hope so.'"

Does that mean that McManus has not been consistent enough? That he is running away with the job? That neither kicker has been that good?

I thought the kicking competition was still close, so this blurb makes me suspect I have missed something.
RE: can someone explain this to me?  
drkenneth : 8/19/2014 5:39 pm : link
In comment 11815131 odunde said:
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"It was Brandon McManus‘ turn to kick today and he went 3-of-4. What once looked like a real competition now appears anything but. Coughlin was asked if it would be tough to make the kicker choice and his response said it all: 'I hope so.'"

Does that mean that McManus has not been consistent enough? That he is running away with the job? That neither kicker has been that good?

I thought the kicking competition was still close, so this blurb makes me suspect I have missed something.


Lol. I didn't get it either....WTF is he saying? From what I've heard, McManus has been good, and has a very strong leg.
RE: RE: can someone explain this to me?  
odunde : 8/19/2014 5:40 pm : link
Same!

In comment 11815132 drkenneth said:
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In comment 11815131 odunde said:


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"It was Brandon McManus‘ turn to kick today and he went 3-of-4. What once looked like a real competition now appears anything but. Coughlin was asked if it would be tough to make the kicker choice and his response said it all: 'I hope so.'"

Does that mean that McManus has not been consistent enough? That he is running away with the job? That neither kicker has been that good?

I thought the kicking competition was still close, so this blurb makes me suspect I have missed something.



Lol. I didn't get it either....WTF is he saying? From what I've heard, McManus has been good, and has a very strong leg.
For a younger kicker with mechanical flaws that  
kickerpa16 : 8/19/2014 5:43 pm : link
can lead to some bad misses (or a string of misses), like McManus, who has no significant real experience, you have to be as good, or better, than the incumbent.

A big leg is shiny and fancy, but consistency from 45 and in is what really matters. And Brown is, right now, better at this.

McManus improved tremendously from last year, but he still needs to work on his technique.
I think Brown has been making his kicks at practice  
Jimmy Googs : 8/19/2014 5:44 pm : link
with a little more consistency. Tough to knock out the incumbent with experience, but we'll see how they finish up as there is still two weeks to go.
Thanks Kicker and Jimmy  
odunde : 8/19/2014 5:46 pm : link
I also caught this at the end of Connor's game report, which helps goes in the same direction as what you are both saying: "As much as super-legged Brandon McManus intrigues, I don’t see anyway he makes the Giants 53-man roster. It was Josh Brown’s spot to lose, and he’s done nothing to lose it."

Can Brown get touchbacks?  
drkenneth : 8/19/2014 5:46 pm : link
?
RE: It's a waste of time having Randle and Cruz  
Jimmy Googs : 8/19/2014 5:47 pm : link
In comment 11815104 Bill in UT said:
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take punts. Randle is awful and they're not going to risk Cruz as a returner.


You watch - with no one stepping up, injuries to ODB and Holliday a risk not making the roster, Randle will be out there fielding punts against Detroit in game 1.

We will have gone 365 days and not improved one of the more glaring weaknesses on the team from last year one bit.

Kicker - what are technical flaws in McManus  
Jimmy Googs : 8/19/2014 5:53 pm : link
that you speak of?

There were some sports reporters talking the other day about this competition but they didn't get into that level of detail. Just spoke about his big leg and inexperience.
Look at the way he kicks.  
kickerpa16 : 8/19/2014 5:56 pm : link
Your follow through should drive your body towards where you're aiming (center of the posts).

His follow through torques his body a bit more (from his days at Temple), so that it puts movement on the ball.
I wouldn't read too much into Pugh at LT.  
Klaatu : 8/19/2014 5:59 pm : link
They needed somebody to spell Beatty and Brown and Brewer were both out.
What is up with Beckham?  
kinard : 8/19/2014 6:10 pm : link
... its almost time for Antrel Rolle to have a little one-on-one with him.

At this rate, is really playing Friday night and will he be ready for the opener?
RE: What is up with Beckham?  
kepler20 : 8/19/2014 6:23 pm : link
In comment 11815170 kinard said:
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... its almost time for Antrel Rolle to have a little one-on-one with him.

At this rate, is really playing Friday night and will he be ready for the opener?


Ask TC, and you will feel his wrath

talk about ODB on BBI, get called a troll


no one wants to admit the obvious. He's trending like Prince did, and if it's any blueprint, by the time he shows up it will be too late.
That sideways  
muhajir : 8/19/2014 6:27 pm : link
smile Beckham always does is really annoying when he isn't even practIcing or playing.
Prince got in on seven games at the end of the 2011 regular season.  
Klaatu : 8/19/2014 6:27 pm : link
The rest is history. Sure would be nice if history repeated itself with OBJ.
RE: That sideways  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/19/2014 6:29 pm : link
In comment 11815184 muhajir said:
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smile Beckham always does is really annoying when he isn't even practIcing or playing.


Yeah, no smiling allowed!

BBI has lost it.
RE: That sideways  
kepler20 : 8/19/2014 6:33 pm : link
In comment 11815184 muhajir said:
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smile Beckham always does is really annoying when he isn't even practIcing or playing.


Aaron Donald, Jordan Matthews, and Zack Martin are all busts
RE: Prince got in on seven games at the end of the 2011 regular season.  
kepler20 : 8/19/2014 6:35 pm : link
In comment 11815185 Klaatu said:
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The rest is history. Sure would be nice if history repeated itself with OBJ.


yeah, Prince had 12 tackles. I'm sure when we roll back the 2014 tape and if ODB has 12 catches we will have had a successful season.
RE: RE: That sideways  
kepler20 : 8/19/2014 6:54 pm : link
In comment 11815189 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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smile Beckham always does is really annoying when he isn't even practIcing or playing.



Yeah, no smiling allowed!

BBI has lost it.


think about this:

today is tuesday
game is friday

theyve already decided he wont play on friday by today.

for a guy who practiced YESTERDAY, to be immediately ruled out friday, IS THE EXACT DEFINITION OF SETBACK
RE: RE: Prince got in on seven games at the end of the 2011 regular season.  
Klaatu : 8/19/2014 7:08 pm : link
In comment 11815194 kepler20 said:
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In comment 11815185 Klaatu said:


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The rest is history. Sure would be nice if history repeated itself with OBJ.



yeah, Prince had 12 tackles. I'm sure when we roll back the 2014 tape and if ODB has 12 catches we will have had a successful season.


Do really measure a CB's impact by how many tackles he's made?
RE: Pugh getting time at LT.  
Connor_Hughes : 8/19/2014 8:18 pm : link
In comment 11815117 drkenneth said:
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Hmmmm.


This is happening just because of injuries FYI
RE: can someone explain this to me?  
Connor_Hughes : 8/19/2014 8:19 pm : link
In comment 11815131 odunde said:
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"It was Brandon McManus‘ turn to kick today and he went 3-of-4. What once looked like a real competition now appears anything but. Coughlin was asked if it would be tough to make the kicker choice and his response said it all: 'I hope so.'"

Does that mean that McManus has not been consistent enough? That he is running away with the job? That neither kicker has been that good?

I thought the kicking competition was still close, so this blurb makes me suspect I have missed something.


Brown running away with job. McManus has been consistently inconsistent :)
RE: RE: That sideways  
muhajir : 8/19/2014 8:21 pm : link
In comment 11815189 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 11815184 muhajir said:


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smile Beckham always does is really annoying when he isn't even practIcing or playing.



Yeah, no smiling allowed!

BBI has lost it.


Lol..as soon as I opened the report and saw that smile I wanted to give him the biggest slap ever... then i would pull him in for a hug and tell him I did that cause we care about him, and need him to stop fkng around and get out there.
RE: RE: RE: Prince got in on seven games at the end of the 2011 regular season.  
kepler20 : 8/19/2014 8:34 pm : link
In comment 11815237 Klaatu said:
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In comment 11815194 kepler20 said:


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In comment 11815185 Klaatu said:


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The rest is history. Sure would be nice if history repeated itself with OBJ.



yeah, Prince had 12 tackles. I'm sure when we roll back the 2014 tape and if ODB has 12 catches we will have had a successful season.



Do really measure a CB's impact by how many tackles he's made?


can you be this stupid? Consider that it's a compliment to even say that Prince had 12 tackles his rookie year should pretty much tell you all you need to know about how effective he was as a rookie.
Prince appeared in seven regular season games, plus the playoffs.  
Klaatu : 8/19/2014 8:45 pm : link
He did not start in any of them. He had 14 tackles (12 solo), three PDefs, and one INT. He also got a ring at the end of the year.

You said, re Beckham, "no one wants to admit the obvious. He's trending like Prince did, and if it's any blueprint, by the time he shows up it will be too late."

If by "too late" you mean winning a Super Bowl, we can only hope.
Steve Smith missed eleven regular season games as a rookie.  
Klaatu : 8/19/2014 8:48 pm : link
But by the time he showed up, he became an integral part of our 2007 championship run. There's a blueprint for you.
RE: Steve Smith missed eleven regular season games as a rookie.  
SGMen : 8/19/2014 8:54 pm : link
In comment 11815375 Klaatu said:
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But by the time he showed up, he became an integral part of our 2007 championship run. There's a blueprint for you.
Very good point! If Beckham does have a healing tear in his hamstring we have no choice but to ease him along. I would not rush him and have him tear it. It is disappointing to see he has missed camp but lets make the best of it.
I'm disappointed with beckham  
djm : 8/20/2014 10:30 am : link
But you don't draft with September of that same year in mind. You draft with the next 3-4 years in mind. Let's hold off on burying the beckham pick for just a little longer ok thanks.
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