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NFT: ISIS beheads captured journalist James Wright Foley

Jints in Carolina : 8/19/2014 5:12 pm
BREAKING: Islamic State, in video titled "A Message to America," beheads American journalist James Wright Foley.

I believe he was captured 3 years ago or so.

I accidentally came across the graphic pics.....you don't want to go there.

Also they are threatening to behead another journalist. Sick, sick bastards.
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Jints in Carolina : 8/19/2014 5:17 pm : link
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/08/19/isis-beheads-american-journalist.html - ( New Window )
Can we send them Stephen A Smith?  
shepherdsam : 8/19/2014 5:28 pm : link
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They need to push the button on these fucks.  
drkenneth : 8/19/2014 5:34 pm : link
Full extermination type shit.
I still  
Metnut : 8/19/2014 5:35 pm : link
don't understand how Vice was able to get someone to do a doc on them.
RE: They need to push the button on these fucks.  
Jints in Carolina : 8/19/2014 5:35 pm : link
In comment 11815126 drkenneth said:
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Full extermination type shit.


yep
'pushing the button' won't help  
Cornman33 : 8/19/2014 5:42 pm : link
unless you are willing to annihilate tens of millions of people.

it's an ideology common to many - they are just taking it to the next 'logical' place of that ideology because they have the power to do so over these people.

Find out who's funding them  
JohnF : 8/19/2014 5:46 pm : link
and hold them personally responsible. If ISIS knows the money dries up when they act like monsters, they'll change their tune.
RE: Find out who's funding them  
WeatherMan : 8/19/2014 5:48 pm : link
In comment 11815144 JohnF said:
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and hold them personally responsible. If ISIS knows the money dries up when they act like monsters, they'll change their tune.

They picked up a few hundred million when they took Mosul, unfortunately right now they have deep pockets of their own making.
Until the people of that region  
JerryNYG : 8/19/2014 6:23 pm : link
have their own Enlightenment/Reneissance type of evolution this will just continue no matter how many wars we fight or what we do.

The average man on the street has to have something worth living for that is more valuable than a fairy tale worth dying for.

Scary stuff and I know I don't have the answers...
Weather  
Dunedin81 : 8/19/2014 6:24 pm : link
They have money, but they still have things that can be frozen. And they can (and should) be bombed to oblivion when they pop their Stone Age heads above ground.
beheading videos, now in HD!  
Nitro : 8/19/2014 6:28 pm : link
Pretty sickening, but it's been SOP from organizations like this for some time. I'm not sure what the response will be, but if they have another and create a similar film, this will get intensified exponentially.

What I got from the Vice Doc (I've watched the whole thing) these are a bunch of chodes with a loose understanding of everything (people, government, the Koran, etc) who've used civil war and whatever the f we did to Iraq to score some easy wins. They're amateur hour and need to be put down asap.

At least it's not Ferguson. Jints had grown tired of that as a flashpoint topic.
somehow  
SethFromAstoria : 8/19/2014 6:37 pm : link
I think the Zionists know what they are dealing with while the rest of the world twiddles their thumbs and tries to avoid offending anyone but the Jews.

Sad state of affairs.
Don't worry  
ZogZerg : 8/19/2014 6:41 pm : link
They are just a JV team.....
we should  
SBlue46 : 8/19/2014 6:44 pm : link
Elect our own president. ..take over country.
We have oil....foothold in mideast...kill all
terrorists...save a lot of money....
otherwise. Get the hell out...we have enough problems
here
Interesting response to the topic of this thread...  
RC02XX : 8/19/2014 6:44 pm : link
Not only a persecution complex but also a dash of self righteousness.
hey Nitro!  
Jints in Carolina : 8/19/2014 6:54 pm : link
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Seth - attempt to avoid the one-noteism  
Overseer : 8/19/2014 6:59 pm : link
it's played out. And you should follow the news a little. We are not "twiddling our thumbs" (don't worry, you'll trust the source).

It's not to excuse the horrors of more traditional warfare, but this is that next level of willful brutality that decidedly renders these actors truly sickening. Enormously war-weary (understandably), still Americans are behind snuffing them out.
RE: Weather  
WeatherMan : 8/19/2014 7:04 pm : link
In comment 11815177 Dunedin81 said:
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They have money, but they still have things that can be frozen. And they can (and should) be bombed to oblivion when they pop their Stone Age heads above ground.

I'm all for that. Just figured it was noting that a fiscal strike isn't going to be the most effective tactic in this case, they do need to be physical eviscerated and a stepped up bombing campaign is likely to be needed to do so.
*physically  
WeatherMan : 8/19/2014 7:04 pm : link
typo.
RE: Seth - attempt to avoid the one-noteism  
SethFromAstoria : 8/19/2014 7:07 pm : link
In comment 11815227 Overseer said:
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it's played out. And you should follow the news a little. We are not "twiddling our thumbs" (don't worry, you'll trust the source).

It's not to excuse the horrors of more traditional warfare, but this is that next level of willful brutality that decidedly renders these actors truly sickening. Enormously war-weary (understandably), still Americans are behind snuffing them out.


uhhhh ok dude whatever. You can assign whatever breaking point you have and I will assign mine. I don't think the differences are very great. I think they are thiiiiiiiiis close to one another. Just because you are accepting of one kind of brutality and not of another doesn;t mean I have to be. One guy chops off someones head and the other one starves and tortures and shoots in the head, and drops in a hole in the ground. Both atrocities and shameful human behavior. This may be "worse" but its not in a different ballpark.

But ok "one notism"
They are cowards  
buford : 8/19/2014 7:11 pm : link
Hopefully we stay engaged enough to rid the world of this menace.
Fucking Savages.  
Ryan in Albany : 8/19/2014 7:16 pm : link
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You said:  
Overseer : 8/19/2014 7:19 pm : link
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Just because you are accepting of one kind of brutality and not of another

Yet apparently missed:
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not to excuse the horrors of more traditional warfare

Reading comprehension. There are indeed degrees, however. Rape is reprehensible. Raping a child is moreso.

Those were separate points, by the way (hence the two paragraphs. One on your paranoia about a perceived universal reprobation of the Jews. The other my view of ISIS's brutality.
RE: You said:  
SethFromAstoria : 8/19/2014 7:26 pm : link
In comment 11815251 Overseer said:
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Just because you are accepting of one kind of brutality and not of another


Yet apparently missed:


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not to excuse the horrors of more traditional warfare


Reading comprehension. There are indeed degrees, however. Rape is reprehensible. Raping a child is moreso.

Those were separate points, by the way (hence the two paragraphs. One on your paranoia about a perceived universal reprobation of the Jews. The other my view of ISIS's brutality.


yes the "paranoia" routine. The extremely typical response to any Jewish defense. The "complex". The "paranoia". The "perception". It's old news and an old routine. The point is to continue to make it clear whenever possible and then point out those who complain about the "paranoia".

But anyway...point is these people are not people. And a bigger problem may just be how many of these people are not people.
They're extraordinarily adept at  
rebel yell : 8/19/2014 7:26 pm : link
many things....much of it is fund-raising and recruiting. They are active on Twitter and all forms of social media, they are expanding, they are flexible, they are whipping up extreme Islamic furor worldwide. I predict they are poised for a spectacular attack on our soil. It's not a matter of if, but when. To quote Ash, "You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? Perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility."
RE: They're extraordinarily adept at  
drkenneth : 8/19/2014 7:28 pm : link
In comment 11815262 rebel yell said:
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many things....much of it is fund-raising and recruiting. They are active on Twitter and all forms of social media, they are expanding, they are flexible, they are whipping up extreme Islamic furor worldwide. I predict they are poised for a spectacular attack on our soil. It's not a matter of if, but when. To quote Ash, "You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? Perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility."


Really dude?
Transcript:  
Overseer : 8/19/2014 7:31 pm : link
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VIDEO OPENS WITH A SPEECH BY PRESIDENT OBAMA ABOUT THE ISLAMIC STATE

JAMES FOLEY I call on my friends, family, and loved ones to rise up against my real killers, the US government. For what will happen to me is only a result of their complacency and criminality.

My message to my beloved parents, save me some dignity, and don't accept some meagre compensation, for my death, from the same people who effectively hit the last nail in my coffin with their recent aerial campaign in Iraq.

I call on my brother John, who is a member of the US air force. Think about what you are doing, think about the lives you destroy, including those of your own family. I call on you John, think about who made the decision to bomb Iraq recently and kill those people, whoever they may have been. Think John, who did they really kill? And did they think about me, you, our family when they made that decision?
I died that day John, when your colleagues dropped that bomb on those people they signed my death certificate. I wish I had more time. I wish I could have the hope of freedom and seeing my family once again. But that ship has sailed. I guess all in all I wish I wasn't American.

EXECUTIONER This is James Wright Foley, an American citizen of your country. As a government, you have been at the forefront of the aggression towards the Islamic State. You have plotted against us and have gone far out of your way to find reasons to interfere in our affairs. Today, your military air force is attacking us daily in Iraq, your strikes have caused casualties among Muslims. You're no longer fighting an insurgency, we are an Islamic army, and a state that has been accepted by large number of Muslims world wide, so effectively, any aggression towards the Islamic State, is aggression towards Muslims from all walks of life who has accepted the Islamic caliphate as their leadership, so any attempt by you Obama to deny the Muslims their rights of living in safety under the Islamic caliphate will result in the bloodshed of your people.

NEW PRISONER SHOWN - CAPTION - Steven Joel Sotloff

The life of this American Citizen Obama, depends on your next decision.
Such trash.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/19/2014 7:34 pm : link
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They will learn  
Joey in VA : 8/19/2014 7:37 pm : link
The hard way, a very very hard way that you don't murder Americans and walk away boasting. Trust me on this friends, a response is forthcoming, one that won't leave many IS goons alive.
That would require boots on the ground  
Headhunter : 8/19/2014 7:41 pm : link
I don't think that is an option
Seth  
Overseer : 8/19/2014 7:43 pm : link
your initial post on this thread was demonstrably untrue:

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I think the Zionists know what they are dealing with while the rest of the world twiddles their thumbs and tries to avoid offending anyone but the Jews.

The world is denouncing ISIS and the the US (and Peshmerga) is not twiddling their thumbs.

So, yes, when you bring up "Zionists" in a thread that really has nothing to do with them, and then you make stuff up on top of it...you indeed come off paranoid.
Uh yeah,  
rebel yell : 8/19/2014 7:43 pm : link
really dude. Is there a part of what I wrote you don't understand because your unintelligible and first grade quip sure as hell causes me confusion.
So does anyone agree  
SethFromAstoria : 8/19/2014 7:44 pm : link
that the Islamic world needs to stand up and fight along side the "West" against these people who claim to represent their entire nation of people? Muslims around the world can't possibly accept these people as their representatives as the "Islamic Nation". Can they?
No, I get it.  
drkenneth : 8/19/2014 7:45 pm : link
Thanks.
RE: Seth  
SethFromAstoria : 8/19/2014 7:47 pm : link
In comment 11815290 Overseer said:
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your initial post on this thread was demonstrably untrue:



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I think the Zionists know what they are dealing with while the rest of the world twiddles their thumbs and tries to avoid offending anyone but the Jews.


The world is denouncing ISIS and the the US (and Peshmerga) is not twiddling their thumbs.

So, yes, when you bring up "Zionists" in a thread that really has nothing to do with them, and then you make stuff up on top of it...you indeed come off paranoid.


My mention of the "Zionists" was meant to describe the way they have experienced these types of groups and to show that the way to deal with these people is not through kind words and diplomacy or politics. They aren't interested in it. My point was that they have experience with groups like this and should be an example instead of thought of as over-reactionary.
RE: So does anyone agree  
buford : 8/19/2014 7:51 pm : link
In comment 11815293 SethFromAstoria said:
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that the Islamic world needs to stand up and fight along side the "West" against these people who claim to represent their entire nation of people? Muslims around the world can't possibly accept these people as their representatives as the "Islamic Nation". Can they?


Saudia Arabia and Egypt have already come out and said as much.
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RE: They are cowards  
BillT : 8/19/2014 7:51 pm : link
In comment 11815242 buford said:
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Hopefully we stay engaged enough to rid the world of this menace.


Thanks for this buford.
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SethFromAstoria : 8/19/2014 7:55 pm : link
In comment 11815302 buford said:
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In comment 11815293 SethFromAstoria said:


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that the Islamic world needs to stand up and fight along side the "West" against these people who claim to represent their entire nation of people? Muslims around the world can't possibly accept these people as their representatives as the "Islamic Nation". Can they?



Saudia Arabia and Egypt have already come out and said as much. Link - ( New Window )


Good news and a good start. Hopefully not just for their own personal gain but we shall see.
I missed the part  
Overseer : 8/19/2014 7:57 pm : link
where America has been accommodating of extremist Islam with kind words. You'd think that the two decade+ wars we just waged would dissuade someone of that notion. Or GITMO. Or deleting OBL. Or drones strike after drone strike.

Yeah I'm comfortable relying on the US military for how to proceed. Don't need Israel to "show us what we're dealing with".
Maybe Saudi Arabia and Egypt...  
Chris in Philly : 8/19/2014 8:02 pm : link
can stop funding terror groups as a first step. There I go being a dreamer again.
So why didn't we deal with ISIS months ago?  
buford : 8/19/2014 8:03 pm : link
Iraq and the Kurds have been begging for help for awhile now. It could have prevented a lot of horror for those people.
"We are NOT...  
Chris in Philly : 8/19/2014 8:06 pm : link
the world's police department!"

"Why aren't we doing something?"
Yes, Egypt and SA were some of the worse offenders  
buford : 8/19/2014 8:09 pm : link
so it is important that they are now coming around.


RE: So does anyone agree  
BillT : 8/19/2014 8:13 pm : link
In comment 11815293 SethFromAstoria said:
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that the Islamic world needs to stand up and fight along side the "West" against these people who claim to represent their entire nation of people? Muslims around the world can't possibly accept these people as their representatives as the "Islamic Nation". Can they?


Yes, they need to stand up but they haven't and I don't think they will. They let the tail wag the dog if that's even a good analogy. No one on the Islamic side speaks up against virtually anything that the most evil and extreme Islamists do. At some point you have to ask why, don't you?
RE: So why didn't we deal with ISIS months ago?  
BillT : 8/19/2014 8:15 pm : link
In comment 11815317 buford said:
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Iraq and the Kurds have been begging for help for awhile now. It could have prevented a lot of horror for those people.


You'd have to ask those in a position to do so. Is that even worth the time.
‘You Have to Kill Them’ Says Former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq  
buford : 8/19/2014 8:16 pm : link
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Other diplomats, including those who have served in Iraq and closely watched its developments, count the missed opportunities along the way. “We had a real opportunity when Fallujah fell,” said former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq James Jeffrey. “We didn’t know how bad the Iraqi army really was, but we knew they weren’t very good. The administration had the warning and it didn’t act and that is really a tragedy.”

Now, says Jeffrey, the U.S. has to work both to counter ISIL and to support a new government in Iraq.

“It wouldn’t hurt for him to be more aggressive in use of force where the ISIS guys are moving forward,” Jeffrey says of President Barack Obama, whom he largely praises for recent moves to counter ISIL. “That threatens us, it threatens the Shia, it is a humanitarian issue and potentially it threatens the embassy.”

As for ISIL he believes there is “no limit to their ambitions.”

“You have to kill them,” Jeffrey says. “They never stopped in Iraq even when I was there in 2010 and 2011, they had been totally defeated and they had lost their population, we were on their trails and they still didn’t give up. There is no reasoning with them, there is no containing them, you have to kill them.”

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Barbarians  
steve in ky : 8/19/2014 8:29 pm : link
I hope I am wrong but sadly will likely not get near the attention or outrage that the situation in Ferguson has gotten.
We have to kill them.  
Mr. Nickels : 8/19/2014 8:30 pm : link
All of them.
I worked for Jim Jeffrey  
rebel yell : 8/19/2014 8:33 pm : link
for a year in Iraq from 2010-2011 at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad. I can tell you that even then I specifically heard him share many of these sentiments, as did many senior DoD Officers. Sadly, nobody really seemed to be listening. Certainly no administration officials showed any great concern or interest. It was all a campaign promise and that was that. We knew it was going to be a challenge when troop numbers began dwindling, but when we wholesale pulled all the troops out it truly became a fate accompli.
RE: Barbarians  
Giantology : 8/19/2014 8:34 pm : link
In comment 11815343 steve in ky said:
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I hope I am wrong but sadly will likely not get near the attention or outrage that the situation in Ferguson has gotten.


Because Ferguson doesn't deserve attention or outrage? That seems to be what you're insinuating here... believe it or not it's possible to multi-task with attention and outrage.
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