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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/19/2014 7:24 pm
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The whole thing is strange.  
drkenneth : 8/19/2014 7:26 pm : link
.
Golden Tate  
ghost718 : 8/19/2014 7:30 pm : link
Gold hair

and the Golden Hamstring
...  
bceagle05 : 8/19/2014 7:31 pm : link
Beckham/Cruz/Randle is quickly becoming fantasy ... and there isn't  
baadbill : 8/19/2014 7:31 pm : link
a trio on the team without Beckham that is even close to being competitive ... Beckham is a critical critical piece to the Giants offensive success this year ... and this injury thing has been just horrendous for them ...
A No Setback-Setback  
ChathamMark : 8/19/2014 7:32 pm : link
...
Another question  
fadeproof : 8/19/2014 7:32 pm : link
What the heck is wrong with Holliday's hamstring he hasnt practiced in weeks?
FWIW  
Joey in VA : 8/19/2014 7:32 pm : link
They mentioned blood in his hamstring during one of the many exams and said the strain is still healing. That's a tear my friends, not a strain which is why I think Manningham is being accelerated and tried with the ones and Harris and Washington are getting longer looks. I think OBJ has a tear and is headed for the IR, short term or year and we're pushing WRs to see who can fill the gap.
RE: FWIW  
Matt in SGS : 8/19/2014 7:38 pm : link
In comment 11815277 Joey in VA said:
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They mentioned blood in his hamstring during one of the many exams and said the strain is still healing. That's a tear my friends, not a strain which is why I think Manningham is being accelerated and tried with the ones and Harris and Washington are getting longer looks. I think OBJ has a tear and is headed for the IR, short term or year and we're pushing WRs to see who can fill the gap.


Joey, good post, and I think (sadly) you are on to something. I'm getting the sense short term IR will end up being his future.
I'm no medical doctor  
George : 8/19/2014 7:39 pm : link
but if it's a tear, Becky wouldn't have been able to practice this week. Right?

Right?

Anyone?


Bueller?
It's conceivable that he had a strain before  
Bill in UT : 8/19/2014 7:41 pm : link
and he got a bruise or contusion in the same area the other day. But saying he didn't injure himself just seems disingenuous.
This whole thing is BS...as another poster pointed out who was at  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 8/19/2014 7:45 pm : link
practice, he was never touched. He did not get hit on the leg like they said he did. He pulled up gimping. But no, no injury. Time for rest...

Becky?  
Chris in Philly : 8/19/2014 7:54 pm : link
Man, fuck some of you douchebags.
This is the downside of injury cover-ups, if there is one.  
bceagle05 : 8/19/2014 8:00 pm : link
It makes the player look soft. Fred Taylor talked about this on TC's "Football Life" episode. He tore his groin and Coughlin kept saying he was "week to week" and might play. Thus, "Fragile Freddie" was born.
Everybody RELAX! She's fine!  
Optimus-NY : 8/19/2014 8:03 pm : link
Reminds me of when Jose Reyes had a hamstring injury in 2008 or 2009  
jlukes : 8/19/2014 8:04 pm : link
Tried coming back too early and ended up missing remainder of the seasons (3 months)
Odd how the hamstring becomes a source for ridicule  
jcn56 : 8/19/2014 8:17 pm : link
if he tore a pec in the weight room and missed time, nobody would bat an eyelash. So he can hurt his breast and no snide comments, but pull a hamstring and he's Becky. Go figure.
Your fan base isn't this stupid Giants  
Giants2012 : 8/19/2014 8:22 pm : link
Meanwhile, despite few practices all camp long, you gave Pugh some reps at LT don't feed us the "nobody saw this coming" if the OL fails like that season Mara.
I have not idea how many of these types of injuries are normal  
steve in ky : 8/19/2014 8:24 pm : link
for the average NFL team but the Giants certainly seem to have a lot of non-contact type of injuries these past years. I mean if a guy gets hit or landed on the wrong way and breaks something you hate to see it but understand that goes with the territory. These nagging issues are a lot more frustrating.
Optimus  
ZogZerg : 8/19/2014 8:27 pm : link
Best Post of the Week!!!!!

LOL.
RE: FWIW  
AcidTest : 8/19/2014 8:29 pm : link
In comment 11815277 Joey in VA said:
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They mentioned blood in his hamstring during one of the many exams and said the strain is still healing. That's a tear my friends, not a strain which is why I think Manningham is being accelerated and tried with the ones and Harris and Washington are getting longer looks. I think OBJ has a tear and is headed for the IR, short term or year and we're pushing WRs to see who can fill the gap.


Wouldn't be surprised. Which would be very disappointing. Beckham apparently had hamstring issues when he was in college. If true, didn't the Giants think this problem would continue once he got to the NFL?
RE: Odd how the hamstring becomes a source for ridicule  
kepler20 : 8/19/2014 8:31 pm : link
In comment 11815329 jcn56 said:
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if he tore a pec in the weight room and missed time, nobody would bat an eyelash. So he can hurt his breast and no snide comments, but pull a hamstring and he's Becky. Go figure.


his legs are his career.

RE: RE: FWIW  
drkenneth : 8/19/2014 8:44 pm : link
In comment 11815340 AcidTest said:
Quote:
In comment 11815277 Joey in VA said:


Quote:


They mentioned blood in his hamstring during one of the many exams and said the strain is still healing. That's a tear my friends, not a strain which is why I think Manningham is being accelerated and tried with the ones and Harris and Washington are getting longer looks. I think OBJ has a tear and is headed for the IR, short term or year and we're pushing WRs to see who can fill the gap.



Wouldn't be surprised. Which would be very disappointing. Beckham apparently had hamstring issues when he was in college. If true, didn't the Giants think this problem would continue once he got to the NFL?


Was wondering the same. I mean, if Beckham had hamstring issues in college, Reese wasn't exactly in a position to take a huge risk at #12.
RE: FWIW  
SGMen : 8/19/2014 8:48 pm : link
In comment 11815277 Joey in VA said:
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They mentioned blood in his hamstring during one of the many exams and said the strain is still healing. That's a tear my friends, not a strain which is why I think Manningham is being accelerated and tried with the ones and Harris and Washington are getting longer looks. I think OBJ has a tear and is headed for the IR, short term or year and we're pushing WRs to see who can fill the gap.
This is truly disappointing to hear. I mean, I understand we needed a playmaker but if you knew his hamstring needed healing and it was an issue in college why didn't you just take Z. Martin? Yikes!!!
Reese wasn't exactly in a position to take a huge risk at #12  
Bill in UT : 8/19/2014 8:48 pm : link
Apparently he was
Sprain vs Strain  
Dog : 8/19/2014 8:49 pm : link
A sprain and a strain are both stretched/pulled or torn tissue. A sprain is a stretch/pulled OR torn ligament (connects bone to bone) while a strain is a stretch/pulled OR torn muscle or tendon (connects muscle to bone). The severity of Beckham's strain is the question. Regardless of the severity since it involves one of the three muscles that make up the hamstring the injury is a strain. As you all know these types of injuries can linger all season. IMO (which as my wife reminds me doesn't fn matter) they are being smart by being cautious because there is always the elevated chance of a setback if one pushes to hard after such an injury. Fingers crossed the soreness he felt was not further injury to the strained hamstring.
How many games did Beckham miss at LSU?  
Klaatu : 8/19/2014 8:52 pm : link
...
I'm the king of hamstring injuries  
Mike in AZ : 8/19/2014 8:58 pm : link
and the fastest I've ever healed from one was six weeks. I had one injury that took 3 months to heal.

Hopefully Beckham is living in the training room to help healing.

I agree with Joey in VA - Beckham is probably heading to at least 8 week IR.
Hammie's are tough  
mattlawson : 8/19/2014 9:04 pm : link
Was listening to a redskins doctor go over the various kind you can have. 1 being a strain and 3 being a tear - 2 is everything in between.

You would only get an MRI if you suspect a tear. Sounds like Beckham is a 2
Beckham was only on campus 3 seasons at LSU  
BSIMatt : 8/19/2014 9:13 pm : link
LSU played 40 games during Beckham's time(true freshman year through junior year),
and he played in 39 of them, caught a pass in 37 of them.

I'm not sure where the hamstring issues at LSU thing came from, I'm not saying it isn't true just that I haven't heard of it before except on this board. If anyone has any linkage regarding hamstring issues at LSU I'd be interested in links.
While I don't see the logic  
BlackLight : 8/19/2014 9:13 pm : link
of keeping Beckham out if he's not injured, I also wouldn't see the logic of keeping the mere fact that he's injured hush-hush.
don't trust  
SBlue46 : 8/19/2014 9:16 pm : link
Giants doctors. My chiro said wilson should have never
been cleared
dont forget  
SBlue46 : 8/19/2014 9:18 pm : link
We had an LSU CB. Last year w hammy for 16 weeks
and holsey also..plus grimble for 4 weeks...cant they
do anything
RE: Everybody RELAX! She's fine!  
muhajir : 8/19/2014 9:19 pm : link
In comment 11815316 Optimus-NY said:
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Lmao
I really, really cannot tell if bossman is a troll..  
arcarsenal : 8/19/2014 9:34 pm : link
..or if he's just.. special.
Nothing  
AcidTest : 8/19/2014 9:40 pm : link
to be done except let him heal, and hope for the best. I'm sure he's just as frustrated. If he didn't have hamstring issues in college, then Reese is exonerated IMO. But at this point, given his status as a rookie and how much time he has missed, I wouldn't expect much from him, at least not until later in the year. I don't know about the wisdom of using the short term IR on him, instead of just deactivating him every week. We might need that later on for someone else.
RE: Your fan base isn't this stupid Giants  
Chris in Philly : 8/19/2014 9:57 pm : link
In comment 11815335 Giants2012 said:
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Meanwhile, despite few practices all camp long, you gave Pugh some reps at LT don't feed us the "nobody saw this coming" if the OL fails like that season Mara.


Actually this thread is providing pretty ample evidence that giants fans are at least as stupid as any other fans.
RE: don't trust  
mfsd : 8/19/2014 9:59 pm : link
In comment 11815434 SBlue46 said:
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Giants doctors. My chiro said wilson should have never
been cleared


Your chiro also examined Wilson? Very cool!! Does he have any good stories?
RE: RE: don't trust  
kepler20 : 8/19/2014 10:05 pm : link
In comment 11815460 mfsd said:
Quote:
In comment 11815434 SBlue46 said:


Quote:


Giants doctors. My chiro said wilson should have never
been cleared



Your chiro also examined Wilson? Very cool!! Does he have any good stories?


wilson had spinal fusion in his neck.


not his back.

his neck.

on 3 vertebrate no less.
This hard to take ….  
Manny in CA : 8/19/2014 10:46 pm : link
Recent #1 pick (Wilson) can never play football again ….

This year's pick may miss half the season …

I'm trying to be optimistic, I really am.
...  
christian : 8/19/2014 10:55 pm : link
A strain is a tear. Same way a sprain is a tear. It's a matter of severity. He has 3 weeks to heal before a real game. It's obvious he aggravated an injury, but the pocket conjecture and prognostic MDs are lame. He either will or won't be fine off the season, but hats off to the guys who can diagnose a complicated and nuanced injury by the subtle hints writers post.
RE: This hard to take ….  
SGMen : 8/19/2014 10:57 pm : link
In comment 11815497 Manny in CA said:
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Recent #1 pick (Wilson) can never play football again ….

This year's pick may miss half the season …

I'm trying to be optimistic, I really am.
I feel the same way. It is quite dis-heartening. We could really have used both Wilson and Odell this year. Their speed changes the game for this offense.
Not to sound like a wiseass  
j_rud : 8/19/2014 11:06 pm : link
But how any here have seen a legitimately hamstring injury? They can be really bad and, obviously, linger. Back in college a friend partially tore his and I was shocked at how bad it was. He was black, blue, and purple from the top of his calf up into his asscheek. It's a big muscle and it takes a lot of time to heal.

I'm far from a doom n gloomer but I'm not expecting to see Beckham in true game form until the second quarter of the season.
Hey Eric  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/19/2014 11:12 pm : link
Thanks for deleting my first thread on this in lieu of Connor's even though mine came first :)
RE: Not to sound like a wiseass  
Chris in Philly : 8/19/2014 11:17 pm : link
In comment 11815506 j_rud said:
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But how any here have seen a legitimately hamstring injury? They can be really bad and, obviously, linger. Back in college a friend partially tore his and I was shocked at how bad it was. He was black, blue, and purple from the top of his calf up into his asscheek. It's a big muscle and it takes a lot of time to heal.

I'm far from a doom n gloomer but I'm not expecting to see Beckham in true game form until the second quarter of the season.


Much easier to call a world-class athlete a girl's name while you grab another handful of Cheetos on the couch.
RE: FWIW  
micky : 8/19/2014 11:42 pm : link
In comment 11815277 Joey in VA said:
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They mentioned blood in his hamstring during one of the many exams and said the strain is still healing. That's a tear my friends, not a strain which is why I think Manningham is being accelerated and tried with the ones and Harris and Washington are getting longer looks. I think OBJ has a tear and is headed for the IR, short term or year and we're pushing WRs to see who can fill the gap.


Joey may have hit the proverbial nail. Frustrating and a shame to have happened, especially, when so much expected from this kid this season.
The fuck is a chiro?  
Davisian : 8/19/2014 11:45 pm : link
Is that the tits who used to say, "cuchi cuchi"???

she knows hammys..

RE: RE: FWIW  
kepler20 : 8/19/2014 11:47 pm : link
In comment 11815529 micky said:
Quote:
In comment 11815277 Joey in VA said:


Quote:


They mentioned blood in his hamstring during one of the many exams and said the strain is still healing. That's a tear my friends, not a strain which is why I think Manningham is being accelerated and tried with the ones and Harris and Washington are getting longer looks. I think OBJ has a tear and is headed for the IR, short term or year and we're pushing WRs to see who can fill the gap.



Joey may have hit the proverbial nail. Frustrating and a shame to have happened, especially, when so much expected from this kid this season.


Well guys,

Klaatu tells me this is a positive omen because of how well Steve Smith and Prince played after they got hurt their rookie years.


I'm inclined to believe him.
CiP  
Larry in Pencilvania : 8/19/2014 11:47 pm : link
Back off my Cheetos
RE: CiP  
Chris in Philly : 8/19/2014 11:54 pm : link
In comment 11815537 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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Back off my Cheetos


Sorry. Doritos. Or Fritos. It sure as hell isn't Smartfood.
RE: Your fan base isn't this stupid Giants  
okiegiant : 8/20/2014 12:07 am : link
In comment 11815335 Giants2012 said:
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Meanwhile, despite few practices all camp long, you gave Pugh some reps at LT don't feed us the "nobody saw this coming" if the OL fails like that season Mara.


I hate to disagree here, but assuming BBI is a sample portion of the overall Giants fanbase...yes a solid number of the fans can be stupid.
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