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Practice vs pre season

stretch234 : 8/19/2014 8:55 pm

If this has been brought up I will delete.

Do others find it very odd that in todays training camp NFL, where all these restrictions are put on practice and contact (lack there of) that the Giants mix and match OL with the 1st team so often.

Why do we read so much about guys playng with the 1st team or seconds in terms of snaps. This needs to be the most cohesive unit. Why would they just not put the 5 guys together they think are best and practive that way. How do you expect to build a cohesive unit if the same 5 do not get most reps in practice.

If they do not get most snaps together in practice, no wonder they are not on the same page in the game

Anyone else think this is an issue

It would make sense

dep026 : 8/19/2014 9:01 pm : link

if we had 5 good OL, but we dont.

Beatty, right now, is our 2nd best OL and he was horrible last year, coming off a very bad injury.

It is a long season

SGMen : 8/19/2014 9:02 pm : link

And the Giants may not truly know who their best five are just yet. They have to evaluate via practice. At least that is how I see it.

Personally, assuming health, I see the opening day lineup as follows:

QB: Eli
LT: Beatty
LG: Richburg (yup, surprise)
OC: Walton
RG: Schwartz
RT: Pugh
WR: Cruz
WR: Randle
RB: Jennings
FB: Hinosoraus
TE: Davis
K: Brown (veteran wins it)

Not only do they want to experiment to see which

CT Charlie : 8/19/2014 11:19 pm : link

group works well, but they also want their O-linemen to be versatile. So they may be sacrificing short-term cohesion for long-term depth and flexibility.

they are experimenting because:

kepler20 : 8/19/2014 11:43 pm : link

They have no clear cut answer for anyone outside of T-Rex at RT.

Everyone else is a question mark as to where they should play. It's week 4 in preseason and we still havent figured it out.

That's a bit of an exaggeration, no?

BillT : 8/20/2014 7:19 am : link

Schwartz, Walton, Mosley and Pugh have been the 1st team line from the outset with Brown holding the spot for Beatty at LT. Now that Beatty us back those five get almost all of the 1st team snaps. With Brown and Brewer out they moved them around yesterday but they were short on bodies.

RE: Not only do they want to experiment to see which

Jimmy Googs : 8/20/2014 7:51 am : link

In comment 11815516 CT Charlie said:

Quote:

group works well, but they also want their O-linemen to be versatile. So they may be sacrificing short-term cohesion for long-term depth and flexibility.

well said...

The fact that they are still trying to mix and match

nicky43 : 8/20/2014 2:03 pm : link

at week 4 to find the best o-line group clearly demonstrates this o-line is very bad as if the pre-season games have not already demonstrated this. Hopefully by all these match ups, TC is trying to send a signal to JR that we need some talent in here fast because the starters are not on the team yet.

Why Jerry refuses to see this and do something about it is beyond me. Could JR really be this stupid? I'd like to think not but when I look at his horrible neglect of the O-line to get it in the disgraceful shape it is currently in...well...maybe he is.

I was upset about the Odel pick at number 1 because we should have went o-line. But seeing how good Odel is I figured maybe it was not that bad at all. Now that JR knows he can't count on Snee, Beatty, Brown, Jerry, or Brewer and clearly that gamble he took during the draft didn't work he needs to do something.

So...admit the mistake and fix it. Trade a good player in an area where we have solid depth and fix the damn oline. If we are forced to run the season with the offensive line players we have now we are dead and we won't even get a good test of McAdoo's new offense cuz no offense will work with this line.

I was anxious to see this new offense but with this line, if it doesn't work, we certainly can't blame anything on McAdoo.