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ZGiants98 : 8/19/2014 9:59 pm
Mets
Juan Lagares, cf
Curtis Granderson, rf
David Wright, 3b
Lucas Duda, 1b
Travis d'Arnaud, dh
Eric Campbell, lf
Flores, ss 2b
Tejada, 2b ss
Anthony Recker, c

Dillon Gee, rhp

Athletics
Coco Crisp, cf
John Jaso, dh
Josh Donaldson, 3b
Brandon Moss, lf
Stephen Vogt, 1b
Derek Norris, c
Josh Reddick, rf
Alberto Callaspo, 2b
Eric Sogard, ss

Scott Kazmir, lhp

Meh. Why not? lol
Rosario  
Shecky : 8/19/2014 10:20 pm : link
Apparently promoted. Haven't heard where, assuming Savanah.
Nice about Rosario...  
ZGiants98 : 8/19/2014 10:26 pm : link
Gee might finally be back. Hitting 91 on the gun and looking real crisp.
Feel like Burkhardt  
ZGiants98 : 8/19/2014 10:30 pm : link
is half asleep tonight. I miss Gary.
I don't know  
Stufftherun : 8/19/2014 10:34 pm : link
what the statistics say but my eyes tell me the Mets have to be near or at the bottom of the league in getting a runner in from 3rd w less than 2 outs. They're God awful!
here's that video  
feelflows : 8/19/2014 11:02 pm : link
of Gammons arguing that the Mets don't match up with the Cubs and goes off about prospects lol

http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/peter-gammons-wasnt-having-any-of-chris-russos-crap-on-wednesday.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=peter-gammons-wasnt-having-any-of-chris-russos-crap-on-wednesday
Who would have expeced TDA to have three more HR's than DW  
steve in ky : 8/19/2014 11:13 pm : link
at this point of the season?
TDA's been awesome  
ZGiants98 : 8/19/2014 11:21 pm : link
should be a lesson for all the bridge jumpers that were so prevalent around Mid-june. ;) These kids take some time. They don't just come up hitting like Babe Ruth day one.
For the most part the younger unproven position players  
steve in ky : 8/19/2014 11:27 pm : link
have pulled their weight. The only veteran's that can say that has been Murphy. And of course the young pitchers have been doing real well also.
Wow Gee went to complete  
ZGiants98 : 8/19/2014 11:33 pm : link
hell in that inning. Got an early meeting tomorrow. Im out. lol.
3 run triple for Crips  
Rob in Rockaway : 8/19/2014 11:34 pm : link
4-1 A's. If we weren't in the death spiral before, we are most certainly now. This is getting really ugly...
Not getting  
Stufftherun : 8/19/2014 11:44 pm : link
the same consistent outings from the starters, the offensive output has not been there and there have been the issues w holding late inning leads. A real trifecta over the past few weeks.
Wright is a hot mess  
Rob in Rockaway : 8/19/2014 11:46 pm : link
takes Curveball right over for strike 1 and then fastball belt high over the middle for strike 2 and then pops weakly to left center for the out. I don't want to pronounce him dead, but he's seriously starting to worry me.
Well at least they were able to muster up more than 4 hits.  
95cobraguy : 8/20/2014 5:23 am : link
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Mets' fans  
Metnut : 8/20/2014 9:04 am : link
might have to accept that Gee and Niese are #4-#5 starters who have an injury risk. Legit MLB starting pitchers but not really guys with much trade value (Niese actually cleared waivers). I think I'd like to see Harvey, Wheeler, DeGrom, one of Montero/Thor and one of Gee/Niese in the rotation next year.

There's a lot of reasons for optimism and a lot of talent in the organization, but at some point, you need MLB results. We're tied with the Astros for the most consecutive losing seasons in a row and looking at finishing with little (if any) improvement to the MLB record again this year.
Niese  
sshin05 : 8/20/2014 10:05 am : link
has the talent to be a better pitcher, but he's injury prone and strangely losing velocity which may have to do with his shrinking K%. His shoulder might not be ok after all.
Promotions  
sshin05 : 8/20/2014 10:09 am : link
Fulmer has been promoted to Bing and started last night, and Rosario is on his way to Savannah. I believe Conforto and Molina will be promoted soon esp if the Cyclones miss the playoffs (which i'm hoping).
RE: Niese  
Metnut : 8/20/2014 10:18 am : link
In comment 11815849 sshin05 said:
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has the talent to be a better pitcher, but he's injury prone and strangely losing velocity which may have to do with his shrinking K%. His shoulder might not be ok after all.


I hope I'm wrong about Niese, but this year's performance, and some of the stats that Dan showed above, have made me re-evaluate what he is. I think he's still a legit rotation guy on a good team, but not a guy you can rely on to be a #3 starter.
Niese has become grossly undervalued by Mets fans  
Shecky : 8/20/2014 10:34 am : link
Sure, he hasn't lived up to what many had hoped he would become. Every. Met fan has always waited for that breakout season. But what's wrong with a solid lefty 3?

He hasn't had a >4 FIP in how many years? Pretty consistently good. How many lefties in all of baseball can say that?
Even with missing all that time on DL and "struggling", he is still top 30 in huge NL/top 60 in MLB for starters in the past five years.
He is still young. He is still LEFTY. He still has a team friendly contract.

Injury risk is the only thing keeping him from being an extremely valuable trade chip. But all pitchers are an injury risk. Commitment to him is only two more years/$16mm. Extremely reasonable since good pitchers are getting $15mm per year as free agents and 2-3 times the years commitment. He doesn't pitch well/ or isn't healthy, you let him leave as a free agent. He does pitch well? You go year to year at friendly numbers with team options.
Wow  
sshin05 : 8/20/2014 10:36 am : link
i came upon this stat. d'Arnaud's BABIP for the month of August is .182, he's due for the some serious regression (the good kind!). His BB% is up and his K% is down from last month. His ISO is up too from the prior month.
No  
DanMetroMan : 8/20/2014 11:10 am : link
plans to promote Rosario per Rubin (not knocking anyone but be careful taking news from MacksMets (who said he was promoted), often... "iffy" information from Mack.
Sshin  
DanMetroMan : 8/20/2014 11:11 am : link
keep in mind BABIP isn't all "luck", more balls int he air will = lower BABIP, don't know if that's the case with TDA (haven't looked) but a low BABIP is sometimes a players "fault".
I think we have already seen the best of Niese  
steve in ky : 8/20/2014 11:13 am : link
.
Rubin  
DanMetroMan : 8/20/2014 11:16 am : link
says neither Rosario or Conforto will be sent to Savannah unless/until Cyclones are eliminated (no shock at all).
Gammons  
DanMetroMan : 8/20/2014 11:19 am : link
says we offered Niese for Miller this winter and were rebuffed. Miller has really struggled but I'd be all over buying low on him. Would love a move like that.
RE: Gammons  
Ira : 8/20/2014 11:28 am : link
In comment 11816018 DanMetroMan said:
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says we offered Niese for Miller this winter and were rebuffed. Miller has really struggled but I'd be all over buying low on him. Would love a move like that.


What do you think we should offer for Miller at this point?
Tough  
DanMetroMan : 8/20/2014 11:32 am : link
to say but I'd be all over adding him. His defense has still graded as above average, he's hit at every level (including last season) he's really struggled this year but 1. .241 BABIP 2. He's still 18th in fWAR at SS despite missing 20+ games (more valuable than Tejada). 344 PA's doesn't erase his previous track record for me. This is the kind of guy I take a shot on. Not big years for a declining/pick costing JJ Hardy type.
I disagree.  
Section331 : 8/20/2014 12:36 pm : link
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Niese has become grossly undervalued by Mets fans
Shecky : 10:34 am : link : reply
Sure, he hasn't lived up to what many had hoped he would become. Every. Met fan has always waited for that breakout season. But what's wrong with a solid lefty 3?


I think he's over-valued. Is he even a 3? I don't think so, but the fact that he's a lefty, and can break up a 4-RHP rotation, means that he will pitch there.
Lol  
Shecky : 8/20/2014 1:15 pm : link
No clue what a Mack mets is, was talking to a friend last night and he casuals mentioned Rosario promoted.

Niese has absolutely been a 3. Factoring in his injuries, time missed, and 'diss appointing' seasons. Top 30 NL SP the past three years based on WAR. So if each team has a 1 and a 2, he would be the 1st ranked 3. Odd logic, but how many teams would Niese be a 2 on? A handful perhaps. But how many teams would Niese be a teams 4 or 5? Very few. Do the same exercise for the AL, Niese is a top 60 SP.
RE: Sshin  
sshin05 : 8/20/2014 2:26 pm : link
In comment 11816004 DanMetroMan said:
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keep in mind BABIP isn't all "luck", more balls int he air will = lower BABIP, don't know if that's the case with TDA (haven't looked) but a low BABIP is sometimes a players "fault".


His FB% is slightly up but not so much that it would affect his BABIP this drastically. LD% is down a lot, so that might have something to do with it.
shecky  
DanMetroMan : 8/20/2014 2:45 pm : link
not knocking your friend but seems like strange timing (same day as MacksMets false report). Rubin today said both are sticking in BK until "eliminated".
Mateo  
DanMetroMan : 8/20/2014 3:46 pm : link
shut down
Campbell  
DanMetroMan : 8/20/2014 4:19 pm : link
and Duda with homers. 5-0 Mets
free game of the day on mlb.com  
sshin05 : 8/20/2014 4:50 pm : link
so get to watch at work for free. Nice!

Mets all over Smard (whatever his name is). Goes to show no matter how good your stuff is, if you can't locate, even a offensively challenged team like the Mets will tattoo you.
Excited about the lack of promotions  
Deej : 8/20/2014 5:28 pm : link
since Im going to the Cyclone game tonight (Jewish Heritage Night @ SI Yanks!).
Haven't  
DanMetroMan : 8/20/2014 5:30 pm : link
been to a Cyclones game this year but the SI Yankee/Cyclones games used to actually be pretty heated in the stands lol
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